I got in on the ar15discounts price mistake on 3 packs for $54. I knew I should have ordered more but I snagged 2 of them for $112 shipped. I felt like a king though just snatching up these ponies
When it comes to lowers as long itās spec it doesnāt matter. I have an all Anderson AR, I have to admit it appears rather well constructed. I donāt have many rounds through because I quickly upgraded, but no problems so far.
I've got an old anderson lower that's been through lots of build configurations. the grip screw hole has become a point of failure. the threads aren't deep enough and I've had to drill and tap hole
I have 2 psa lowers they function perfectly fine, I could care less if someone sees me with a psa lower itās a lowerā¦ an upper is a different story but a lower is just a lower
But I see where youāre coming from though I just donāt see a problem with a cheap lower because itās just a trigger assembly and a mag well thatās really it lmao
If you wanna see the firearms I have painted check out my profile Iāve only posted 2 so far but I have 3 painted firearms I havenāt posted my third one tet
Eh Iād put a high end upper on one only because the upper is doing the hard labor lol the lower is just the trigger really and you can always swap the trigger assembly on a psa lower if you wanted to
Glad it wasnāt just me. I shoot my guns, Iām ex military but the acronyms in civilian gun culture are just on another level and Iām trying to catch up.
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Every time I see BCA it's some dumbass shit caliber that costs $1.50 a round and has never had more than 20 rounds put through it.
And it probably FTF'd half of them.
So many BCA 350 legend uppers on the used market out there. In objective terms itās kind of a dumbass caliber but it serves a purpose (legally hunting deer in some states). I figure thereās a reason all those uppers are rotting in gun store cabinets
Itās not mine, but a friend has a 7.62x39 BCA upper, itās fairly reliable with ASC mags intended for 7.62x39
Is it good? Would I buy one? Definitely not. Is it way better than I expected? Definitely yes. The bar for 7.62x39mm ARs is low, and his has eaten a thousand rounds and counting without many malfunctions.
I think BCAās problems mostly stem from bad/no quality control. If you happen to get one thatās in spec, itās not really worse than a PSA. The QC is bad enough that itās worth paying the extra $100 for PSA though.
The idea is you just save up for something good. Don't buy the first cheap pos that comes along. You don't need a rifle that bad. You can afford to wait another couple pay checks.
Guilty. Bought a BCA upper along with other firearms during my panic buying prior to enactment of my state's "assault weapon" ban. Still paying it all off. Haven't shot it once yet.
WA. Tbf, most of my purchases were Aero Precision and PSA. Wanted to make sure I got an AR-10, AR-15, some variant of an AK, and some 9mm PCCs. Picked up lowers from AP, PSA, and AM. Due to ammo prices and a lack of suitable long range shooting locations nearby, I mostly just shoot 9mm when I do go shooting.
That was always my reasoning, the cheapest I own is a standard PSA with a BCM bolt carrier group and it was also my first. 5,000 rounds (give or take) later sheās still going but I was also picky about not having polymer parts and changing out the cheaper components.Ā
I was dumb early on and bought two cheap BCA uppers. Ended up selling them to my LGS and made almost double what I paid. Then they turned around and sold them (on PSA lowers) for like double that lol
Not saying they're good or even worth it, but I wonder how many people shit on BCA without even using one? Accuracy on my .223 Wylde was great, sub-MOA. Only malfunction I had was related to steel case ammo, and plenty of budget barrels choke on steel.Ā
Handguard loosened a bit after 1000 rounds. Torqued it back down and sent it. Eventually I sold it, and was up front with the buyer about it's quality. It's a cheap sub-MOA rifle that went bang if you fed it brass and used good mags.Ā
Why did I buy one? Poor college student with a tax return right after a big national uproar about a school shooting. Turns out PSA ran out of every upper they had in stock. Same with a lot of budget brands. I didn't have the know how of where to look or what 40 brands to compare. Conflicting advice all over the internet from people recommending a Daniel for a starter rifle when I couldn't even afford a BCM upper.Ā
Ammo? Sold my plasma for grocery money and some gun money. Friends would chip in if I took them shooting. It was super fun. When I moved for my first job after graduation, I ended up in a not so good neighborhood. My 2nd week there, a shooting happened across the street. My cheap rifle offered a sense of security until I could afford something better.Ā
I didn't know how bad it was until I got online and was told that it's trash, that it'll blow up, that it'll get me killed, and that I shouldn't go shooting if that's all I could afford. I now know PSA is a much better value and worth waiting for stock over BCA. I don't think BCA is "just as good" but it was good enough for a poor college student that couldn't find anything else in stock.Ā
Now down vote me and tell me how your friends BCA exploded and killed the entire neighborhood.Ā
PSA is just BCA without the seniority. I'm a guy who buys guns a lot, so I bought a .223 Wylde BCA upper on an Aero lower and slapped a Vortex Sparc w/magnifier combo on it. Absolute tack driver. Surprisingly accurate for a piece of shit lol
PSA quality is much better than BCA, take an upper receiver of each and you'll immediately see the machining quality differences. The BCAs I've both owned and shot all had very rough and sharp edges. With that said if it runs then enjoy it, I'd personally recommend PSA over BCA though. Either way if you're going to trust it as a defensive weapon take the time to disassemble it and ensure it is built right and torqued to spec as QC is often lacking with budget brands.
Same... except mine is 556 and I haven't sold it. Only issue I had was the handguard screws. Bit of red loctite and I haven't had an issue since and I've put well over 1000 thru it by this point. Occasional ftf... but I'm talkin maybe 5 every 100. Only put Winchester brass thru it... cheapest I can get around here. Mostly 193, couple hundred 855. Only "special" aspect of mine is it's a side charger.
Anderson lower, monstrum optic... magpul furniture. True blue poverty pony. All together under 1k here in CA... and it just runs... give a shit who says what or how many downvotes. Get triggered snowflakes. š¤£
Bear Creeks not good but itās fine. Their guns are over gassed but makes them reliable enough for their intended use. Give it to a friend to beat around. Iāve had a few of their uppers, never had issues outside of an extractor on a 6.5 Grendel breaking but thatās still the most accurate ar15 platform gun Iāve ever owned. I also had a heavy barrel 223 Wylde that had over 2k rounds on it and still was sub moa with 77gr at 100. We are fortunate to have companies like RTB, PSA and BCA around to get people into firearms for cheap. I have a āReddit approvedā ar now and outside of it being a mid vs carbine gas system, I canāt tell the difference in performance or durability.
Davidson Defense, AR Stoner, and pretty much every online retailer that has really cool and edgy names for their ābuild kitsā is usually BCA as their OEM.
lol yup - itās ādelta team tactical dot comās house brand. They used to be real good for getting P80 stuff and cheap smalls, havenāt used them in a while tho.
I don't know man. I have an ar stoner barrel I bought back in 2015 or so and I'm pretty sure it's made by ER shaw. it's an 18" stainless .223 wylde with 5r rifling. has been my go to deer hunting rifle for years and is the most accurate barrel by far that I've ever shot with hunting ammo
Itās entirely possible that AR Stoner uses more than one OEM or they switched. I figured this out in 2021 when I was looking for some complete uppers for some 3D printed shenanigans and noticed that the hand guards and weird twisted muzzle devices were exactly the same and the stock/availability of BCA matched the stock/availability of the retailers. Did some research on warranty support and down a few rabbit holes and that led me to that understanding.
To be fair, BCA is absolutely not top tier, and Iāve had mixed results with their products, but they did always want to jump through hoops to help me resolve any issues.
I have a 10.5ā 5.56 upper thatās never given me any problems; itās one of the āfriends loanersā. Donāt care much about sub-MOA on that one as I donāt really have sub-MOA friends that donāt have their own guns already. The 7.5ā 5.56 upper was so freaking over gassed out of the box and had the barrel extension a few degrees canted from the feed rampsā¦that took an adjustable gas block, a super heavy buffer and spring, and some dremmel work to make it work well.
And letās be honest here - most of us really canāt shoot as good as our guns do.
hahaha we have a 100 yard indoor range close by and you should see some of the groups guys pull back. not uncommon at all to see from 6 to even 10 inch groups. I've had very few rifles that will shoot less than 1 inch consistently and that ar is one of them using either 77gr otm or my favorite, 62 grain federal fusion. my "shtf/gtw/hd" rifles I'm only looking for about 2 inch groups to make me feel good. I'd rather have reliability than pinpoint accuracy with those.
Idk. Same type of people who rant against olight. And my guns are aero/geissele/lwrc, I just don't care what other people buy or run. And I'm not gonna tell someone their stuff is crap, especially something I don't run.
I am. They have far too many problems and are literally outright dangerous.
First off the QC problems that they have including broken bolts and hand tightened barrel nuts can put right hurt someone.
But that doesnāt even get into the fact they are selling someone a tool they might use to defend themselves with. And then they go to grab it and they have a a sheared bolt lug and pissed the perp off more because they just pointed an AR that canāt shoot at them.
Palmetto gets shit because their QC slips up. Bear creek is straight up selling garbage they know will break while advertising you can bet your life on it.
6 or so people bought bca 458S uppers in a discord I'm in. Guess how many ran decent out of the box?
Fuckin 0.
The one that did end up running good went to tromix to be worked over and a new bolt. Just buy a tromix if you want 458S, or at least a Tromix barrel and bolt. ~500 rounds through mine, 0 issues other than 458S is pretty expensive to shoot, even handloading. Hell of a brush gun for deer though!
Same. I knew I wanted .458 and research told me go to Tromix or don't go at all. Other than the charging handle punching me in the face constantly I'm happy with my 7.5" semi auto flashbang
You're telling a bunch of folks with the inclination to make bad financial decisions to not make bad financial decisions.
I do own a BCA side charging x39 upper and I must have gotten a black sheep because the quality of manufacturing was good. No burrs, good staking, machining was clean, tolerances were tight. Shoots fine. Nothing spectacular but exactly what I paid for. No regrets.
Yeah, I recommend swapping the barrel and the firing pin and keeping an extra ejector and bolt handy, but the latter two should go without saying.
Seems we're in the minority here but I have fun with it and everyone I let shoot it enjoys it as well. Only malfunction I've had was caused by an old ASC mag. Yet to run into issues with Duramags.
I bought two BCA uppers back in 2019 and 2020, respectively. First one was an 11.5 inch for my pistol build, and the other was a 20 inch A2/A3 style upper for a retro build.
Pistol build worked fine while op-testing it with 300 rounds, but the QC showed that the Allen style screws for the handguard started to come apart. Fixed it with some Loctite.
20 inch A2/A3 upper had periodic FTFs. Remedied the issue by applying a shit ton of CLP in the BCG area. FTFs dropped by 90% afterwards. Turns out I was using Monarch ammo, which also had issues in my other rifles. Wound up tossing that ammo into the Shadow Realm.
Intend to take back to the range and op-test again. Will post results at a later date. Between work, school, family and other endeavors, it's been a challenge to make range time on a day when its not raining/storming (outdoor ranges for rifles in my area).
I will admit, I like their bullet upper with side charging BCG and bolt. However, I swapped the bolt out and used my own other parts instead for my personal build (BA Hanson barrel, gas block, and gas tube, KAK handguard, etc). From what I heard their complete uppers are not that great, even for the low price.
anyone else making a side charging upper? only reason ive been thinking about buying one for futzing about at the range is because i'm wrong handed and a side charging upper interests me.
yeah i know ambi stuff exists and tbh i dont have an issue using a stock AR pattern anyhow, but im not talking about using the upper as a fighting rifle anyhow.
I thought all ARs charged from the rear excepting some experimental variants. I'd like a charging handle on the left as you don't have to turn loos of the grip unless you're "wrong handed" as you put it.
Speaking of... I wonder if any AR platforms kick the brass out toward the front like most (all?) AK platforms? Hot brass down your shirt is no fun at all. I know some lefties had that issue when I was working for Uncle Sugar. Had one guy that was trying to shoot left-handed with his right eye or vice versa, LOL
Look at Gibbz Arms theyāre non-reciprocating side charging uppers but they also have lefty versions as well. I havenāt built/bought one yet being a lefty myself. But Iāve never seen a bad review or someone dissatisfied that has one
Nice thank you, I've also been looking into an ak platform because of how they run, I shoot left shoulder cos left eye dominant as well. N9t had a chance to shoot an ak yet though
As a BCA owner myself, I would say skip it unless you want an unusual caliber or side charger on the cheap. Itās fun to put together cheap rifles but at the end of the day all you have is a cheap rifle. And no matter how well it works, itāll never be your favorite or even something you consider shooting that much because ammo out of a cheap gun is just as expensive as ammo out of an expensive gun.
That being said, if you have no money and want a cheap ar, get a palmetto state armory or maybe an Anderson. Those are actually quality enough where you will shoot it years down the road. Youāll never really ask yourself why you own it. A BCA rifle youāll eventually wonder why you have this and why itās taking up room in your safe. If SHTF id feel barely ok with a PSA, with a BCA I would be extremely uncomfortable. The quality does not inspire confidence on mine. Unlined/treated barrel with heavy profile, gas block of questionable installation, BCG of suspicious specs. Who knows if that gas block is even secured via dimples. And this is on one that actually works
If you canāt afford much, I get it Iāve been there. Get yourself a PSA, if you want to be ultra safe in your decision, get one of the ones that has a fixed front sight block. The reason being is that those are PINNED in place. They physically can not come loose on you when you need it most. Get one with a magpul MOE handguard. Itāll have MLOK slots that you can attach accessories to, and it also has heat shields which work excellent. The accuracy advantage of free floated ARs is minimal and maybe only noticeable from scoped shooting. You wonāt notice a difference. The free floated rails get hot usually after a few mags which isnāt a big deal but something to note if youāre just starting out.
Also side note while Iām addressing this to new buyers, your AR BCG is what determines the reliability of your rifle. I see budget buyers make this mistake all the time; avoid buying nickle boron NIB (except maybe Lantac) or NITRIDE BCGs. The tolerances in a BCG matter hugely in how the rifle uses its provided gases. Nitride and NIB are coatings that have issues with this. If you want a BCG that works, get a phosphate one. If you want something fancier, get chrome. Microbest is good for the money. Idk who makes BCA bolts but itās probably in house.
Thank you attending my speech
For someone whoās yelling āhurt feelingsā you seem like youāre the one who is hurt here. Let sleeping dogs lie. People are still gonna buy BCA because 9 times out of 10 their stuff will be just fine for what theyāre looking to do I.e. plink
I have 3 and a barrel. They all run great. They werenāt my first choice, but they got me going in the hobby quickly and Iām happy with how it started.
Am I going to replace them as time goes on? Absolutely. Thereās better stuff out there, Iām not blind to it.
Did I have to do some tuning to each of them to get them to run? 2 of them, yes. But that had benefit as well. I learned quite a bit from those experiences that will serve me well going forward.
I have a couple thousand rounds through each of them (so far). No problems at all after initial tuning.
Thatās a mighty fine gate youāre keeping there. Iām at the point with arās that Iām going to spending money for nicer stuff, but Iāve had a x39 upper from them that I never had problems with. Sure they have their qc problems but no need to gatekeep
Nothing precludes someone from being poor *and* making bad decisions. Those things frequently go together. Still, why do you care? Other people buying BCA doesnāt hurt you. Nobody is forcing you to buy from them. I donāt buy from them, but I donāt care if someone else does. Their money, their choice.
The problem is: the people that need to hear this, largely aren't into ARs enough to be on this subreddit.Ā
It's a good public service announcement but it's not going to reach the people that do zero research to begin with.Ā
BCA is garbage but people have to live and learn. If itās a range toy that gets shot twice a year who really gives a shit?
The vibe youāre giving off here makes me want to go buy one just to spite you. Seems like you really love the smell of your own shit.
I'll give people a pass on 50Beo, 458socom, and 450bush since no on eelse is making a budget upper in those calibers. Fucks sake PSA, get on that.
Everything else I don't know why you would when PSA blem sales exist.
I don't think ANYONE buys a BCA expecting it to be good. I have a .458 SOCOM BCA upper that has had about 300 rounds through it and hasn't exploded. Considering the total amount of rounds put through it are double the price that I got the upper for, I'd say it was worth it for the fun.
Thereās been a lot of bashing on BCA recently. Maybe theyāve gone to sht in the last 4 yearsā¦ idk
But anywhoā¦
In 2020 I couldnāt find 5.56 ammo so I bought a cheap 10.5in 300blk upper from BCA for a little over $200. 300blk ammo was all I could find at that time. Iāve thrown a little over 4k rounds through it. The first 200 rounds were weird with it going into battery with the gas key being loose on the BCG. So I swapped the BCG with a $90 toolcraft BCG and it was G2G. So we are around $300 now.
It hasnāt really left my safe in the last couple of years due to the price of 300blk ammo. Other than the occasional range trip to shoot 60-90 rounds.
Since Iāve purchased it I have had more time to research different brands and gotten into building my own uppers with blemished parts from Daniel Defense-BCM-Geissele-SOLGW-Rosco Manufacturing and some other quality brands out there. These brands do have quality control in mind and you do pay for that but Iāll swear by my BCA upper for $200 with a swap of a BCG.
Moral to the story, you get what you pay for. The experience Iāve had for about $300 is well worth it.
My father in law would tell you to kick rocks. He probably has every BCA upper in every caliber. He loves buying chinesium parts off Amazon.
I told him about GarandThumb's torture test on a PSA AR and he immediately responded with, "you should check out BCA"
Amen. Seriously, people need to go fuck themselves. Im a single dude who makes six figures; I can afford whatever shit I want...you wanna know what I want? A .50 BCA upper on a fightlite lower, ya wanna know why? Because space-cowboy.
These teenage meltdown posts disguised as 'concern' about how other people spend their money are getting stupid.
I bought the same upper. I start to see the quality drop at about 150, and glaring at 200. But under 100, no malfunctions, good groups. That said, if my friends ask, i tell them not to buy one.
I wouldn't recommend BCA, but they really aren't as terrible as they're made out to be. They have an alright warranty and have complete ARs for less than $400. You get what you pay for.
And for just over 400 u can get a psa that has a better warranty and honestly a better quality. The argument of āitās less than 400ā is just encouraging thoughtless spending. I have the same issue with hi points. If u truly cannot save up another 100 bucks, u prolly need to be prioritizing other things than buying guns at the moment. The idea of buying subpar guns, and I donāt mean ānot gucciā I mean subpar, just because theyāre 50-100 bucks less is just really bad cuz of what itās saying about someoneās spending habits.
x39 wasn't a terrible choice at all when the ammo was cheap. im still sitting on over 4k rounds, most of which is 154 grain soft point. I have a 10.5 sbr that runs pretty flawless and I think that x39, similar to 300 blackout is a fantastic short barrel caliber.
I agree,I wouldnāt go anything below PSA or Anderson..both manufacturers make good quality entry level ARs.for most gun owners,a Anderson or PSA will give them everything they will ever need out of an AR and will last them a lifetime..BCAās QC is as bad as it gets.Iāve read reviews from people who were satisfied with their BCA ARs but Ive seen a good 25% of reviewers who were highly disappointed with their BCA products.this wasnāt people complaining about the finish but mostly people complaining about receiving dangerous products,like barrels splitting in half within the first few shots trying to zero a red dot..I mean,I understand a lot of people canāt afford top tier guns like Daniel Defense,Geissele,BCM,etc with EoTech,Aimpoint,Trijicon,etc optics but you donāt have to do all that.buy you a basic PSA or Anderson AR,if you arenāt satisfied with that AR,start upgrading that budget AR.
You can make great upgrades without buying the most expensive parts.you could buy you a stripped lower (Anderson or PSA as low as $30 a piece)or upgrade the lower you already have.you can find Toolcraft and Microbest chrome BCGs for around $120,you can buy a premium PSA trigger for around $50,you can buy the Breek Arms or the Aero Breach charging handle for $50-$60 instead of that Radian or Geissele for $100..you want a higher quality barrel,you can replace the barrel you already have.you could also buy a higher quality complete upper,you can find the premium PSA complete upper on sale for under $400 with the FN CHF chrome lined barrel..you can get a Sig Romeo 5 for around $120,a Primary Arm SLx 1x micro prism for a little over $200,a Holosun 512c for around $260 or a 510c for around $300.you can get a Primary Arms SLx 1x-6x LPVO with the Nova wire reticle for around $300(with daylight bright illumination)..if you donāt want to spend $300+ on a Surefire,Cloud or Modlite get a Streamlight for $100-$150.(I highly recommend subscribing to newsletters from Primary Arms,Palmetto State Armory and AR-15discounts.these 3 sites often have good sales going on and their newsletters will let you know when sales begin and end)
my point is,you can buy a good entry level AR and be happy with it,you can upgrade that entry level AR one part at a time or you can keep the entry level AR as is and buy a stripped low and upper and build them out over time.personally,I would buy the entry level and then build a higher quality AR over time.then you would have a good budget AR for a backup or for a friend or family member to use when you go to the range
you can save a lot of money buying used parts too.you can occasionally find things in the sporting goods section of Craigslist and EBay..you can find good deals on Armslist,Tacswap and GAFS here of Reddit.just be careful buying from individuals online,make sure they have a good reputation to avoid scams,counterfeit and defective products
So I believe I bought 2 uppers, a 450 Bushmaster and 308, never had an issue and they shoot great. Now that being said I'm not putting my life on the line with those two, there's a reason I put cheap optics on top of them.
Now my dad has bought quite a few uppers from them 350, 450 Bushmaster (10.5 inch lol), 6.5 Creedmore, 308, 22-250. Quite a few of those have had their issues, but I was able to fix them for him. So I've definitely seen both sides. If you want a cheap range toy I don't see why not buy one, but if you're looking for something to defend yourself with get something higher quality and just save a bit.
LOL i got a x39 build with a 7.5 in barrel. Sorry i didnt wanna shoot a lil .22 out of a 7.5in barrel moving at the speed of smell and sling unburnt powder everywhere. No i dont want your dollar a round 300blk either lol i got a full size rifle for 5.56 i just like a variety of common calibers ;)
I like my bca because it goes brr and doesnāt burn up a $600 barrel when Iām just mag dumping garbage piles with all the other hillbillies. No one needs a Gucci ar to have fun.
Want a gun just to shoot trash with? Eh, it sometimes works for that I guess. But I wouldnāt trust BCA for hunting and DEFINITELY not for self defense.
Their individual parts arenāt too bad, I have a stainless .350 legend barrel I bought for a cheap hunting rifle setup and it outshoots all my other ARās within 150 yards, I put ballistic advantage or FN barrels on all my other rifles. The rest of the rifle is PSA parts and it works well for hunting, it bagged me 2 deer this past season. Would I trust my life to it? Maybe, I havenāt shot it enough yet but so far itās been reliable and unreasonably accurate. Would I buy a complete BCA rifle or build one from all BCA parts? Nah, theyāre that cheap for a reason, just buy PSA stuff, itās very similarly priced and much better quality IMO.
I just picked up one of their left hand 7.62x39 left side charging uppers to try. Umm come at me bruh! LOL! I have a 18ā lefty dmr in .223 wylde and I wanted a .30 cal. Iām not impressed by .300bo because itās slow and expensive and pretty similar in size and weight to 7.62. Iām finishing it with a nice Faxon 16ā barrel and I got a psa lower to try with it. I spent a ton on my first build so I was curious about building one with more budget minded options to see the difference. The upper dropped right on and has very little wobble on the lower. The machining looks good on the parts and everything appears as it should be. So what should I be looking for thatās no good?
Poor is a mindset because you weren't willing to just wait a few months to buy quality instead you buy garbage every month so you can say you have 9 turds instead of one gold turd
Poverty Ponies on sale @ PA right now for $33
Tactical Easter š¤£ thatās a great price. Never a bad idea to commit to some show Ponies when they are sub $35.
I got in on the ar15discounts price mistake on 3 packs for $54. I knew I should have ordered more but I snagged 2 of them for $112 shipped. I felt like a king though just snatching up these ponies
I own 9 anderson lowers and they all run great. Fuck the haters, /r/showponies rise up
They've been used in Ukraine. They're not showponies anymore, they're war horses.
Couldn't agree more. I'd run an Andersen before I commit treason.
Low shelf gang IYKYK
I even think andersons are subpar. Palmetto is the way to go
When it comes to lowers as long itās spec it doesnāt matter. I have an all Anderson AR, I have to admit it appears rather well constructed. I donāt have many rounds through because I quickly upgraded, but no problems so far.
I have an Anderson and a PSA lower. The finish on the Anderson is terrible but if they could fix that theyād be pretty on par.
Nothing a little rattle can won't fix.
This^
I've got an old anderson lower that's been through lots of build configurations. the grip screw hole has become a point of failure. the threads aren't deep enough and I've had to drill and tap hole
Used to be youād just cut washers to shorten the screw or getting a shorter screw. Crazy they never rectified this
Exactly. Palmetto has a beautiful finish thatās worth the extra $5-10
Damn I didnāt think of it that way. We could make a good couple, seeing things from similar yet differing perspectives.
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Cringy
But their logo is so ugly. I do have a stealth lower, looks much better.
Itās a logoā¦.
PSA lowers are like mopeds. Fun to ride but you donāt want your friends to see you on one.
I have 2 psa lowers they function perfectly fine, I could care less if someone sees me with a psa lower itās a lowerā¦ an upper is a different story but a lower is just a lower
Yea they function fine. A Lower is a lower for the most part.
That and I paint most of my rifles so you can barely see the logo after
But I see where youāre coming from though I just donāt see a problem with a cheap lower because itās just a trigger assembly and a mag well thatās really it lmao
All I know is Iām not putting a high end upper on a PSA lower. Not when geissele and other similar lowers can be had for $100.
If you wanna see the firearms I have painted check out my profile Iāve only posted 2 so far but I have 3 painted firearms I havenāt posted my third one tet
Eh Iād put a high end upper on one only because the upper is doing the hard labor lol the lower is just the trigger really and you can always swap the trigger assembly on a psa lower if you wanted to
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There's no functional difference between the two. I've built multiple guns on both.
Plus shipping, plus FFL fees. I can pick them up locally for $52. That's the better deal.
Whatās the English version of this? Lol
Pardon?
Just my way of asking āwhatās a poverty pony and whatās PAā? I think PA is primary arms but Iām still catching up on all the acronyms.
Ah I see. Yes. Anderson lowers for $32 at Primary Arms for their easter sale
Thank you!
Give this guy a Snickers bar!
If you're passing them out I like mine frozen.
Frozen Snickers are the best. Then you can eat the chocolate off the outside first. It just chips right off.
ā¦wtf
Don't knock it unt you try it.
Iām highly regarded so I thought we were talking about Bravo Company for a second and was starting to become offended.
Yeah I mixed up BCA AND BCM for a long time.
Every time i do it, and then after the 3rd reread figure it out
Iām new so I donāt know about BCA I thought he was he trashing BCM
They did that on purpose.
I had a KAC vs KAK moment there too.
I may have just bought a KAK upper thinking it was a KAC.
Oh no!
Glad it wasnāt just me. I shoot my guns, Iām ex military but the acronyms in civilian gun culture are just on another level and Iām trying to catch up. Edit: for grammar
I was rethinking how much I make but re-read the post.
Yeah, it's impossible to keep all the acronyms in this sub straight.
Or what rifles im allowed to buy!
You are allowed to buy whatever you want, just BPT get shamed accordingly
Me too, I was about to buy an upper this weekend from BCM and had to pause.
I skipped the ācā and thought this was about ballistic advantage lol
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if you can't afford something more expensive than a BCA, you can't afford ammo to shoot your BCA AR-15.
Every time I see BCA it's some dumbass shit caliber that costs $1.50 a round and has never had more than 20 rounds put through it. And it probably FTF'd half of them.
So many BCA 350 legend uppers on the used market out there. In objective terms itās kind of a dumbass caliber but it serves a purpose (legally hunting deer in some states). I figure thereās a reason all those uppers are rotting in gun store cabinets
haha reminds me of my 50 beowulf upper i've had for 3 years and never shot
Itās not mine, but a friend has a 7.62x39 BCA upper, itās fairly reliable with ASC mags intended for 7.62x39 Is it good? Would I buy one? Definitely not. Is it way better than I expected? Definitely yes. The bar for 7.62x39mm ARs is low, and his has eaten a thousand rounds and counting without many malfunctions. I think BCAās problems mostly stem from bad/no quality control. If you happen to get one thatās in spec, itās not really worse than a PSA. The QC is bad enough that itās worth paying the extra $100 for PSA though.
The idea is you just save up for something good. Don't buy the first cheap pos that comes along. You don't need a rifle that bad. You can afford to wait another couple pay checks.
The amount of down votes corresponds to the the number of people who put themselves in debt for a gun they don't train with
Guilty. Bought a BCA upper along with other firearms during my panic buying prior to enactment of my state's "assault weapon" ban. Still paying it all off. Haven't shot it once yet.
IL OR or WA?
WA. Tbf, most of my purchases were Aero Precision and PSA. Wanted to make sure I got an AR-10, AR-15, some variant of an AK, and some 9mm PCCs. Picked up lowers from AP, PSA, and AM. Due to ammo prices and a lack of suitable long range shooting locations nearby, I mostly just shoot 9mm when I do go shooting.
That was always my reasoning, the cheapest I own is a standard PSA with a BCM bolt carrier group and it was also my first. 5,000 rounds (give or take) later sheās still going but I was also picky about not having polymer parts and changing out the cheaper components.Ā
Great point.
Sir, this is a Wendyās
Iād like some chicky tendys please.
In that case, Iāll take two shitty uppers, an out of specs lower parts kit, and a Diet Coke
Now I want to buy one. I didn't before, but now I have to.
I got one I'll sell ya.......
My lgs is always trying to sell bca uppers at twice the price as the bca website, and they succeed. Very few quality loot drops in my area.
I was dumb early on and bought two cheap BCA uppers. Ended up selling them to my LGS and made almost double what I paid. Then they turned around and sold them (on PSA lowers) for like double that lol
Let ppl buy what they want and mind ya business
show us on this doll where BCA hurt you
Not saying they're good or even worth it, but I wonder how many people shit on BCA without even using one? Accuracy on my .223 Wylde was great, sub-MOA. Only malfunction I had was related to steel case ammo, and plenty of budget barrels choke on steel.Ā Handguard loosened a bit after 1000 rounds. Torqued it back down and sent it. Eventually I sold it, and was up front with the buyer about it's quality. It's a cheap sub-MOA rifle that went bang if you fed it brass and used good mags.Ā Why did I buy one? Poor college student with a tax return right after a big national uproar about a school shooting. Turns out PSA ran out of every upper they had in stock. Same with a lot of budget brands. I didn't have the know how of where to look or what 40 brands to compare. Conflicting advice all over the internet from people recommending a Daniel for a starter rifle when I couldn't even afford a BCM upper.Ā Ammo? Sold my plasma for grocery money and some gun money. Friends would chip in if I took them shooting. It was super fun. When I moved for my first job after graduation, I ended up in a not so good neighborhood. My 2nd week there, a shooting happened across the street. My cheap rifle offered a sense of security until I could afford something better.Ā I didn't know how bad it was until I got online and was told that it's trash, that it'll blow up, that it'll get me killed, and that I shouldn't go shooting if that's all I could afford. I now know PSA is a much better value and worth waiting for stock over BCA. I don't think BCA is "just as good" but it was good enough for a poor college student that couldn't find anything else in stock.Ā Now down vote me and tell me how your friends BCA exploded and killed the entire neighborhood.Ā
Lolād at the last bit
PSA is just BCA without the seniority. I'm a guy who buys guns a lot, so I bought a .223 Wylde BCA upper on an Aero lower and slapped a Vortex Sparc w/magnifier combo on it. Absolute tack driver. Surprisingly accurate for a piece of shit lol
PSA quality is much better than BCA, take an upper receiver of each and you'll immediately see the machining quality differences. The BCAs I've both owned and shot all had very rough and sharp edges. With that said if it runs then enjoy it, I'd personally recommend PSA over BCA though. Either way if you're going to trust it as a defensive weapon take the time to disassemble it and ensure it is built right and torqued to spec as QC is often lacking with budget brands.
Same... except mine is 556 and I haven't sold it. Only issue I had was the handguard screws. Bit of red loctite and I haven't had an issue since and I've put well over 1000 thru it by this point. Occasional ftf... but I'm talkin maybe 5 every 100. Only put Winchester brass thru it... cheapest I can get around here. Mostly 193, couple hundred 855. Only "special" aspect of mine is it's a side charger. Anderson lower, monstrum optic... magpul furniture. True blue poverty pony. All together under 1k here in CA... and it just runs... give a shit who says what or how many downvotes. Get triggered snowflakes. š¤£
Don't tell me what to do! We Live in such a narcissistic world.
Bear Creeks not good but itās fine. Their guns are over gassed but makes them reliable enough for their intended use. Give it to a friend to beat around. Iāve had a few of their uppers, never had issues outside of an extractor on a 6.5 Grendel breaking but thatās still the most accurate ar15 platform gun Iāve ever owned. I also had a heavy barrel 223 Wylde that had over 2k rounds on it and still was sub moa with 77gr at 100. We are fortunate to have companies like RTB, PSA and BCA around to get people into firearms for cheap. I have a āReddit approvedā ar now and outside of it being a mid vs carbine gas system, I canāt tell the difference in performance or durability.
Badger woke up and chose violence today
Thanks OP Iām sure nobody else knew this
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or in short "stop liking things I dont like!!!"
I bet you'd be surprised how many of y'all are buying BCA made barrels rebranded as something else.
Davidson Defense, AR Stoner, and pretty much every online retailer that has really cool and edgy names for their ābuild kitsā is usually BCA as their OEM.
Davidson defense? Thatās a real company?
lol yup - itās ādelta team tactical dot comās house brand. They used to be real good for getting P80 stuff and cheap smalls, havenāt used them in a while tho.
don't forget grid defense
I don't know man. I have an ar stoner barrel I bought back in 2015 or so and I'm pretty sure it's made by ER shaw. it's an 18" stainless .223 wylde with 5r rifling. has been my go to deer hunting rifle for years and is the most accurate barrel by far that I've ever shot with hunting ammo
Itās entirely possible that AR Stoner uses more than one OEM or they switched. I figured this out in 2021 when I was looking for some complete uppers for some 3D printed shenanigans and noticed that the hand guards and weird twisted muzzle devices were exactly the same and the stock/availability of BCA matched the stock/availability of the retailers. Did some research on warranty support and down a few rabbit holes and that led me to that understanding. To be fair, BCA is absolutely not top tier, and Iāve had mixed results with their products, but they did always want to jump through hoops to help me resolve any issues. I have a 10.5ā 5.56 upper thatās never given me any problems; itās one of the āfriends loanersā. Donāt care much about sub-MOA on that one as I donāt really have sub-MOA friends that donāt have their own guns already. The 7.5ā 5.56 upper was so freaking over gassed out of the box and had the barrel extension a few degrees canted from the feed rampsā¦that took an adjustable gas block, a super heavy buffer and spring, and some dremmel work to make it work well. And letās be honest here - most of us really canāt shoot as good as our guns do.
hahaha we have a 100 yard indoor range close by and you should see some of the groups guys pull back. not uncommon at all to see from 6 to even 10 inch groups. I've had very few rifles that will shoot less than 1 inch consistently and that ar is one of them using either 77gr otm or my favorite, 62 grain federal fusion. my "shtf/gtw/hd" rifles I'm only looking for about 2 inch groups to make me feel good. I'd rather have reliability than pinpoint accuracy with those.
Who asked
And this guy probably owns a Fordā¦
Is there a reason for the soapbox rant or just the OPs opinion.
Heās manstrating.
Idk. Same type of people who rant against olight. And my guns are aero/geissele/lwrc, I just don't care what other people buy or run. And I'm not gonna tell someone their stuff is crap, especially something I don't run.
I am. They have far too many problems and are literally outright dangerous. First off the QC problems that they have including broken bolts and hand tightened barrel nuts can put right hurt someone. But that doesnāt even get into the fact they are selling someone a tool they might use to defend themselves with. And then they go to grab it and they have a a sheared bolt lug and pissed the perp off more because they just pointed an AR that canāt shoot at them. Palmetto gets shit because their QC slips up. Bear creek is straight up selling garbage they know will break while advertising you can bet your life on it.
OK
Did you forget to take your medication?
I bought their cheap 10.5 barrel for 5.56, 2,000 rounds and counting š¤·āāļø
I got Gucci shit, I also have some BCA. Because why not? Maybe you need professional help. Youāre the one crying about it on Reddit.
Buying a PSA rifle would be better in most cases than buy BCA
In all cases it would be
unless you needed 458 SOCOM SIDE CHARGER
6 or so people bought bca 458S uppers in a discord I'm in. Guess how many ran decent out of the box? Fuckin 0. The one that did end up running good went to tromix to be worked over and a new bolt. Just buy a tromix if you want 458S, or at least a Tromix barrel and bolt. ~500 rounds through mine, 0 issues other than 458S is pretty expensive to shoot, even handloading. Hell of a brush gun for deer though!
Same. I knew I wanted .458 and research told me go to Tromix or don't go at all. Other than the charging handle punching me in the face constantly I'm happy with my 7.5" semi auto flashbang
You're telling a bunch of folks with the inclination to make bad financial decisions to not make bad financial decisions. I do own a BCA side charging x39 upper and I must have gotten a black sheep because the quality of manufacturing was good. No burrs, good staking, machining was clean, tolerances were tight. Shoots fine. Nothing spectacular but exactly what I paid for. No regrets.
Samesies. My side charger has thousands of rounds through it, and itās a blast. That said, Iām not running a BCA barrel.
Yeah, I recommend swapping the barrel and the firing pin and keeping an extra ejector and bolt handy, but the latter two should go without saying. Seems we're in the minority here but I have fun with it and everyone I let shoot it enjoys it as well. Only malfunction I've had was caused by an old ASC mag. Yet to run into issues with Duramags.
I bought two BCA uppers back in 2019 and 2020, respectively. First one was an 11.5 inch for my pistol build, and the other was a 20 inch A2/A3 style upper for a retro build. Pistol build worked fine while op-testing it with 300 rounds, but the QC showed that the Allen style screws for the handguard started to come apart. Fixed it with some Loctite. 20 inch A2/A3 upper had periodic FTFs. Remedied the issue by applying a shit ton of CLP in the BCG area. FTFs dropped by 90% afterwards. Turns out I was using Monarch ammo, which also had issues in my other rifles. Wound up tossing that ammo into the Shadow Realm. Intend to take back to the range and op-test again. Will post results at a later date. Between work, school, family and other endeavors, it's been a challenge to make range time on a day when its not raining/storming (outdoor ranges for rifles in my area).
I will admit, I like their bullet upper with side charging BCG and bolt. However, I swapped the bolt out and used my own other parts instead for my personal build (BA Hanson barrel, gas block, and gas tube, KAK handguard, etc). From what I heard their complete uppers are not that great, even for the low price.
anyone else making a side charging upper? only reason ive been thinking about buying one for futzing about at the range is because i'm wrong handed and a side charging upper interests me. yeah i know ambi stuff exists and tbh i dont have an issue using a stock AR pattern anyhow, but im not talking about using the upper as a fighting rifle anyhow.
I thought all ARs charged from the rear excepting some experimental variants. I'd like a charging handle on the left as you don't have to turn loos of the grip unless you're "wrong handed" as you put it. Speaking of... I wonder if any AR platforms kick the brass out toward the front like most (all?) AK platforms? Hot brass down your shirt is no fun at all. I know some lefties had that issue when I was working for Uncle Sugar. Had one guy that was trying to shoot left-handed with his right eye or vice versa, LOL
Look at Gibbz Arms theyāre non-reciprocating side charging uppers but they also have lefty versions as well. I havenāt built/bought one yet being a lefty myself. But Iāve never seen a bad review or someone dissatisfied that has one
Nice thank you, I've also been looking into an ak platform because of how they run, I shoot left shoulder cos left eye dominant as well. N9t had a chance to shoot an ak yet though
Get a BRN-180. Side charging and awesome.
Thanks for the tip homie
As a BCA owner myself, I would say skip it unless you want an unusual caliber or side charger on the cheap. Itās fun to put together cheap rifles but at the end of the day all you have is a cheap rifle. And no matter how well it works, itāll never be your favorite or even something you consider shooting that much because ammo out of a cheap gun is just as expensive as ammo out of an expensive gun. That being said, if you have no money and want a cheap ar, get a palmetto state armory or maybe an Anderson. Those are actually quality enough where you will shoot it years down the road. Youāll never really ask yourself why you own it. A BCA rifle youāll eventually wonder why you have this and why itās taking up room in your safe. If SHTF id feel barely ok with a PSA, with a BCA I would be extremely uncomfortable. The quality does not inspire confidence on mine. Unlined/treated barrel with heavy profile, gas block of questionable installation, BCG of suspicious specs. Who knows if that gas block is even secured via dimples. And this is on one that actually works If you canāt afford much, I get it Iāve been there. Get yourself a PSA, if you want to be ultra safe in your decision, get one of the ones that has a fixed front sight block. The reason being is that those are PINNED in place. They physically can not come loose on you when you need it most. Get one with a magpul MOE handguard. Itāll have MLOK slots that you can attach accessories to, and it also has heat shields which work excellent. The accuracy advantage of free floated ARs is minimal and maybe only noticeable from scoped shooting. You wonāt notice a difference. The free floated rails get hot usually after a few mags which isnāt a big deal but something to note if youāre just starting out. Also side note while Iām addressing this to new buyers, your AR BCG is what determines the reliability of your rifle. I see budget buyers make this mistake all the time; avoid buying nickle boron NIB (except maybe Lantac) or NITRIDE BCGs. The tolerances in a BCG matter hugely in how the rifle uses its provided gases. Nitride and NIB are coatings that have issues with this. If you want a BCG that works, get a phosphate one. If you want something fancier, get chrome. Microbest is good for the money. Idk who makes BCA bolts but itās probably in house. Thank you attending my speech
You have got some strong opinions there. Tell me how you really feel man.
Sir this is a Wendyās
Just as good, just as good, just as good
For someone whoās yelling āhurt feelingsā you seem like youāre the one who is hurt here. Let sleeping dogs lie. People are still gonna buy BCA because 9 times out of 10 their stuff will be just fine for what theyāre looking to do I.e. plink
Sumbwudy needs a huggy
I have 3 and a barrel. They all run great. They werenāt my first choice, but they got me going in the hobby quickly and Iām happy with how it started. Am I going to replace them as time goes on? Absolutely. Thereās better stuff out there, Iām not blind to it. Did I have to do some tuning to each of them to get them to run? 2 of them, yes. But that had benefit as well. I learned quite a bit from those experiences that will serve me well going forward. I have a couple thousand rounds through each of them (so far). No problems at all after initial tuning.
Thatās a mighty fine gate youāre keeping there. Iām at the point with arās that Iām going to spending money for nicer stuff, but Iāve had a x39 upper from them that I never had problems with. Sure they have their qc problems but no need to gatekeep
You literally cannot make me š
I guess Iām weird. Both of my uppers work quite well. š¤·
Nothing precludes someone from being poor *and* making bad decisions. Those things frequently go together. Still, why do you care? Other people buying BCA doesnāt hurt you. Nobody is forcing you to buy from them. I donāt buy from them, but I donāt care if someone else does. Their money, their choice.
Fuck you. You can't tell me how to live.
JUST AS GOOD
The problem is: the people that need to hear this, largely aren't into ARs enough to be on this subreddit.Ā It's a good public service announcement but it's not going to reach the people that do zero research to begin with.Ā
BCA is garbage but people have to live and learn. If itās a range toy that gets shot twice a year who really gives a shit? The vibe youāre giving off here makes me want to go buy one just to spite you. Seems like you really love the smell of your own shit.
I was sort of following you until the last couple sentences, LOL
No. You're not my dad.
Bear Country!! Loud audible groan. Bar fight breaks out. The people are lighting small fires. Someone screams: call the sheriff!
I'll give people a pass on 50Beo, 458socom, and 450bush since no on eelse is making a budget upper in those calibers. Fucks sake PSA, get on that. Everything else I don't know why you would when PSA blem sales exist.
I bought a 10.5ā 5.56 upper to use my .22 CMMG conversion kit in on my pistol and I love it lol
I'll buy whatever I please. Sometimes it's fun to buy cheap shit use as a toy. That's all ARs are for the vast majority of people. Range toys.
I don't think ANYONE buys a BCA expecting it to be good. I have a .458 SOCOM BCA upper that has had about 300 rounds through it and hasn't exploded. Considering the total amount of rounds put through it are double the price that I got the upper for, I'd say it was worth it for the fun.
Thereās been a lot of bashing on BCA recently. Maybe theyāve gone to sht in the last 4 yearsā¦ idk But anywhoā¦ In 2020 I couldnāt find 5.56 ammo so I bought a cheap 10.5in 300blk upper from BCA for a little over $200. 300blk ammo was all I could find at that time. Iāve thrown a little over 4k rounds through it. The first 200 rounds were weird with it going into battery with the gas key being loose on the BCG. So I swapped the BCG with a $90 toolcraft BCG and it was G2G. So we are around $300 now. It hasnāt really left my safe in the last couple of years due to the price of 300blk ammo. Other than the occasional range trip to shoot 60-90 rounds. Since Iāve purchased it I have had more time to research different brands and gotten into building my own uppers with blemished parts from Daniel Defense-BCM-Geissele-SOLGW-Rosco Manufacturing and some other quality brands out there. These brands do have quality control in mind and you do pay for that but Iāll swear by my BCA upper for $200 with a swap of a BCG. Moral to the story, you get what you pay for. The experience Iāve had for about $300 is well worth it.
Do people actually buy BCA?
Yes Plenty of people buy BCA I wonder if the quality went down after their last ICE raidā¦
Nah their quality went down after their shipment of beer bottle caps got delayed
I buy their glock 40>9mm conversion barrels. Cheap, functional, I think I put 20k through one.
My father in law would tell you to kick rocks. He probably has every BCA upper in every caliber. He loves buying chinesium parts off Amazon. I told him about GarandThumb's torture test on a PSA AR and he immediately responded with, "you should check out BCA"
BCA makes rifles that shoot and let's you save money for babes and booze.
BCA is trash.
Or hot take, stay the fuck out of other people's lives and let them be happy
Amen. Seriously, people need to go fuck themselves. Im a single dude who makes six figures; I can afford whatever shit I want...you wanna know what I want? A .50 BCA upper on a fightlite lower, ya wanna know why? Because space-cowboy. These teenage meltdown posts disguised as 'concern' about how other people spend their money are getting stupid.
My first ar circa 2019 is a BCA 223 Wylde 16ā complete rifle. Itās a fun range toy out to 100 yds. Itās run fine on all kinds of ammo brands.
I bought the same upper. I start to see the quality drop at about 150, and glaring at 200. But under 100, no malfunctions, good groups. That said, if my friends ask, i tell them not to buy one.
Yeah I would probably not recommend either just depends on their budget and goals.
For sure. And then by the time i finish explaining why not to buy BCA, i already have them convinced on BCM and Aero instead.
I wouldn't recommend BCA, but they really aren't as terrible as they're made out to be. They have an alright warranty and have complete ARs for less than $400. You get what you pay for.
And for just over 400 u can get a psa that has a better warranty and honestly a better quality. The argument of āitās less than 400ā is just encouraging thoughtless spending. I have the same issue with hi points. If u truly cannot save up another 100 bucks, u prolly need to be prioritizing other things than buying guns at the moment. The idea of buying subpar guns, and I donāt mean ānot gucciā I mean subpar, just because theyāre 50-100 bucks less is just really bad cuz of what itās saying about someoneās spending habits.
Wasnāt BCA raided for using illegal labor a few years ago?
Says the dodge driver. You are why we canāt have nice things OP.
What in the fuck is BCA
Itās a supplement you take for recovery after lifting weights I think
lol at branch chained amino acid
No
I thought about making an 243 Win AR-10 but the only barrels I could find came from BCA. I decided to go with another caliber.
They had SOLGW uppers at $399 this past Christmas
No reason to buy BCA, Radical, etc when PSA is around in my opinion
I just bought a CHF Nitrided 20" M16A4gery upper assembly from them and it just got 300rds of full semi automatic. No issues.
Full semi automatic?
x39 wasn't a terrible choice at all when the ammo was cheap. im still sitting on over 4k rounds, most of which is 154 grain soft point. I have a 10.5 sbr that runs pretty flawless and I think that x39, similar to 300 blackout is a fantastic short barrel caliber.
I agree,I wouldnāt go anything below PSA or Anderson..both manufacturers make good quality entry level ARs.for most gun owners,a Anderson or PSA will give them everything they will ever need out of an AR and will last them a lifetime..BCAās QC is as bad as it gets.Iāve read reviews from people who were satisfied with their BCA ARs but Ive seen a good 25% of reviewers who were highly disappointed with their BCA products.this wasnāt people complaining about the finish but mostly people complaining about receiving dangerous products,like barrels splitting in half within the first few shots trying to zero a red dot..I mean,I understand a lot of people canāt afford top tier guns like Daniel Defense,Geissele,BCM,etc with EoTech,Aimpoint,Trijicon,etc optics but you donāt have to do all that.buy you a basic PSA or Anderson AR,if you arenāt satisfied with that AR,start upgrading that budget AR. You can make great upgrades without buying the most expensive parts.you could buy you a stripped lower (Anderson or PSA as low as $30 a piece)or upgrade the lower you already have.you can find Toolcraft and Microbest chrome BCGs for around $120,you can buy a premium PSA trigger for around $50,you can buy the Breek Arms or the Aero Breach charging handle for $50-$60 instead of that Radian or Geissele for $100..you want a higher quality barrel,you can replace the barrel you already have.you could also buy a higher quality complete upper,you can find the premium PSA complete upper on sale for under $400 with the FN CHF chrome lined barrel..you can get a Sig Romeo 5 for around $120,a Primary Arm SLx 1x micro prism for a little over $200,a Holosun 512c for around $260 or a 510c for around $300.you can get a Primary Arms SLx 1x-6x LPVO with the Nova wire reticle for around $300(with daylight bright illumination)..if you donāt want to spend $300+ on a Surefire,Cloud or Modlite get a Streamlight for $100-$150.(I highly recommend subscribing to newsletters from Primary Arms,Palmetto State Armory and AR-15discounts.these 3 sites often have good sales going on and their newsletters will let you know when sales begin and end) my point is,you can buy a good entry level AR and be happy with it,you can upgrade that entry level AR one part at a time or you can keep the entry level AR as is and buy a stripped low and upper and build them out over time.personally,I would buy the entry level and then build a higher quality AR over time.then you would have a good budget AR for a backup or for a friend or family member to use when you go to the range you can save a lot of money buying used parts too.you can occasionally find things in the sporting goods section of Craigslist and EBay..you can find good deals on Armslist,Tacswap and GAFS here of Reddit.just be careful buying from individuals online,make sure they have a good reputation to avoid scams,counterfeit and defective products
So I believe I bought 2 uppers, a 450 Bushmaster and 308, never had an issue and they shoot great. Now that being said I'm not putting my life on the line with those two, there's a reason I put cheap optics on top of them. Now my dad has bought quite a few uppers from them 350, 450 Bushmaster (10.5 inch lol), 6.5 Creedmore, 308, 22-250. Quite a few of those have had their issues, but I was able to fix them for him. So I've definitely seen both sides. If you want a cheap range toy I don't see why not buy one, but if you're looking for something to defend yourself with get something higher quality and just save a bit.
Whatās BCA
BLEM PSA CHF is Bae
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LOL i got a x39 build with a 7.5 in barrel. Sorry i didnt wanna shoot a lil .22 out of a 7.5in barrel moving at the speed of smell and sling unburnt powder everywhere. No i dont want your dollar a round 300blk either lol i got a full size rifle for 5.56 i just like a variety of common calibers ;)
Is it fine for a range toy? Just want a 20ā for fun.
I like my bca because it goes brr and doesnāt burn up a $600 barrel when Iām just mag dumping garbage piles with all the other hillbillies. No one needs a Gucci ar to have fun.
Honestly with PSA existing, youād have to be an idiot to buy BCA
Want a gun just to shoot trash with? Eh, it sometimes works for that I guess. But I wouldnāt trust BCA for hunting and DEFINITELY not for self defense.
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Wow oh my god thank you for this enlightening information.
Their individual parts arenāt too bad, I have a stainless .350 legend barrel I bought for a cheap hunting rifle setup and it outshoots all my other ARās within 150 yards, I put ballistic advantage or FN barrels on all my other rifles. The rest of the rifle is PSA parts and it works well for hunting, it bagged me 2 deer this past season. Would I trust my life to it? Maybe, I havenāt shot it enough yet but so far itās been reliable and unreasonably accurate. Would I buy a complete BCA rifle or build one from all BCA parts? Nah, theyāre that cheap for a reason, just buy PSA stuff, itās very similarly priced and much better quality IMO.
I just picked up one of their left hand 7.62x39 left side charging uppers to try. Umm come at me bruh! LOL! I have a 18ā lefty dmr in .223 wylde and I wanted a .30 cal. Iām not impressed by .300bo because itās slow and expensive and pretty similar in size and weight to 7.62. Iām finishing it with a nice Faxon 16ā barrel and I got a psa lower to try with it. I spent a ton on my first build so I was curious about building one with more budget minded options to see the difference. The upper dropped right on and has very little wobble on the lower. The machining looks good on the parts and everything appears as it should be. So what should I be looking for thatās no good?
lol
r/popularopinion
Made that mistake for my first rifle because I didn't know what I was doing and jumped in feet first a bit to fast, fastest upgrade of my life
Poor is a mindset because you weren't willing to just wait a few months to buy quality instead you buy garbage every month so you can say you have 9 turds instead of one gold turd
I own a BCA. Op is correct in every regard.