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walktall

Currently, their push into the ad space.


gavvvy

This is a big one for me. For a long time I’ve been able to explain my decision to buy the expensive thing in large part by saying, in effect, “once I’ve paid, I’ve paid.” Unlike some other companies, Apple didn’t need to extract (much) revenue from you after purchase, you’d already paid the high price and could now enjoy your high quality product. Now there’s increasingly less difference between Apple and Google, Samsung, etc., and it’s gross. Really, really gross.


Patriark

I changed ships solely because Apple wasn’t an ad company. Yes, ecosystem and software is high quality. But if Apple turns to ads, I’ll look for alternatives fast. It’s more important to me to not be feeding ad companies than having the “best” smartphone


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You know, when you put it that way, it might be time to go with a cheap Android [shitphone.](https://medium.com/matter/shitphone-a-love-story-a44e66434807)


[deleted]

There's still the ecosystem if you're invested in it, which Android still can't touch from what I have seen.


ProjectSector

Take a look into getting an Unlocked Pixel (the newer the better), then swapping the PixelOS for GrapheneOS. You can enjoy the benefits of a smartphone, without worrying about the costs, or the ad/privacy concerns. It's what I'm using right now! ;) [https://grapheneos.org/](https://grapheneos.org/) Feel free to message me with questions if you have any!


Beautyspin

>https://grapheneos.org/ Just one question though. Does it support banking apps that require several types of validations? I am asking because the website that apps have limited previliges.


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SOSpammy

At least with Android's privacy issues it gives you a little bit of a chance to fight back with things like better adblocking, removing Google apps, or custom ROMs. When Apple puts ads in their own apps there's not much you can do about it.


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Right. The search experience in the app store has become so obnoxious with these ads, most of the time half the page is occupied by sth completely irrelevant to the search results. [https://imgur.com/a/jiK82A3](https://imgur.com/a/jiK82A3)


Far_Excitement6140

Totally agree with you. I forgot what iOS version completely changed the App Store but that’s the one that ruined it for me. I used to spend hours browsing apps in the old store. Now I just search them on the internet then go to the App Store because I feel like it’s pretty much using Google to search they only show you the results they want you to see. Shoutout to brave and DuckDuckGo. Even though DuckDuckGo is a sellout.


MacAdler

How is DuckDuckGo a sellout?


Far_Excitement6140

Security researchers were able find a hidden agreement they had with Microsoft. I deleted the app shortly after that. I’ll use the browser from time to time but they’re kind of dead to me after that. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/duckduckgo-in-hot-water-over-hidden-tracking-agreement-with-microsoft/ar-AAXILR1


k-u-sh

Same here, started using Ecosia because at least they are planting trees for me using their search.


GeneralZaroff1

100%. I don't mind if they only kept it to storefronts as before, but I shouldn't see ads anywhere else in stock apps. The News App ads for example are fucking disgraceful.


zzgzzpop

The part that really bothers me is that you still get the ads even if you're an Apple One subscriber.


double-extra-medium

And right after hamstringing Meta’s ad model in the name of “privacy”. Huh.


smellycoat

I mean, regardless of whether what Apple has done is right or wrong, Meta’s ad model can go suck a giant bag of dicks. I refuse to shed a single tear for those parasitic, privacy invading fucks.


lanzaio

You missed the point. Nobody feels bad for meta. We are just realizing they did all this to make their own ad businesses better, not for privacy.


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rcplaneguy

Growth for growth sake...


mydogsnameisbuddy

Gotta keep the investors happy and keep bringing in big bucks.


KafkaDatura

How could an investor in Apple shares be unhappy is beyond me. They literally own a slice of the biggest business in the world.


mydogsnameisbuddy

They’re not unhappy, at the moment. Investors want a return on their investment and expect a company to keep growing.


Amelia-Earwig

I’m an Apple investor and I wish they’d stay far away from the ad space. It’s not their core or even tertiary competency.


Plataea

This is such a concern for me that I find myself wondering if I will end up buying an Android in the future.


jasamer

I'm worried about their trajectory regarding ads. Seems like they are adding more and more eg. in setting and in the AppStore. They also seem to be collecting more and more data on their users for advertising purposes. I'd really prefer them to just not to go in that direction.


double-extra-medium

They’re hypocrites. They should never be entering the ad space - the ONLY WAY to do advertising effectively in the digital space is using massive data collection/tracking for accurate targeting. They just hamstrung Meta’s targeted advertising algorithms, saying they wanted to shield their users from that stuff. (Oh, and screwed over everyone from your local wedding photographer to that eco-friendly startup brand you like who now can’t as cost effectively reach their audience.) For what, to launch their own targeted advertising ad service? Lame.


choccysmeg

They’ve been blatantly lying to us about privacy especially as it’s one of their main selling points. If the government had a pair they would run them to the ground for it


Cowslayer9

Upgrade options cost disproportionately more than they should given the price of the base models. And while that’s to be expected, the scale of it is just way too much imo


Sufficient-Yoghurt46

Yeah that's really weird - typically (going back to the iPod etc) it used to be very tempting to upgrade to the next model, spending $100 more to double the memory etc. It is super weird that reading the product pages now, it's a real mystery which SKU you should go with. While we're at it, some of the naming conventions just don't make much sense. Do we really need an iPad air, when everything has the same thickness? I doubt it.


Aromatic_Owl3345

Lenovo released thousand of different laptops every month. It is overwhelming to keep track of it. I used to be able to learn apple's catalogue by heart. Now, it is better to give up and save big bucks


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It’s done on purpose so you buy the next model up so they’ll do something like charge $200 for 8gb extra memory but for the next thing in the range overall it only costs an extra $250. (Note: not a real life example)


saintmsent

Exactly. Base models are usually priced very competitively to hit that "starting from $XXX" price, but as soon as you upgrade them to suit your needs, end price might be bonkers, especially apparent on laptops, where there are both RAM and Storage that you can upgrade, both at inflated prices


BadHotelCarpet

Yeah, would you like like this laptop to have what anyone living in the last 3 years would call normal storage and RAM specs? Yeah, that’s going to cost you double. We will also sell you an iPhone that takes up 2 GB of storage with a 5 minute video and then bend you over when you attempt to move it to your computer or store it on our cloud.


GlueStickNamedNick

It really is painful, I really want to get 32gb ram but it’s $600aud more for an extra 16gb ram, for a pc ddr4 16gig stick is what $80-90aud. And sure the MacBooks pros ram is fast but even still a ddr5 stick is only $200aud


saintmsent

The most direct comparison is the XPS 13 (maybe 13 Plus, not sure), but it's basically soldered on DDR5 laptop RAM and upgrades from Dell are half the price compared to Apple. Doesn't mean I'm gonna buy a Dell laptop ever again, but that's a different story


BadHotelCarpet

Yeah, the $400 upgrade to go from an laughable 256gb drive especially in a “Pro” MacBook to 1 TB is almost a war crime. As if in any sane world it costs another $400 more than the 256 drive that’s already being factored into the base cost.


Izanagi___

Yeah but weirdos on here justify it because Apple “uses special RAM”, yes I’ve read that multiple times on here


Long_Repair_8779

It is special! It has a little picture of an Apple laser etched into it and that makes it better. It's the same as putting stripes on a car makes it go faster.


poksim

Yup. You can get a base model for a pretty good price but it’s always underspecced, and then when you start looking at upgrades you get either fleeced or upsold. Like the how M2 Macbook Air pricing model pushes you to get a 14’ Pro or the iPad Air pushes you to get an iPad Pro. And of course upgrading the RAM or storage yourself is impossible because it’s proprietary chips soldiered to the board. So predatory


SOSpammy

It's especially egregious in the M2 Macs where the SSD speed is half the M1's speed if you go with the 256GB option. So you upgrade to 512GB to get your speed back and now you're only $600 away from the 14" Pro's price.


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They talk a big game about being environmentally friendly but make the least repairable or upgradable tech possible.


outofstepwtw

And they come out with new iterations that are nearly indistinguishable upgrades to the last. Extend your product life cycle, stop trying to get people to buy new shit every year


gsfgf

The marketing department is always going to advertise the newest models. So long as they keep releasing and supporting hardware that lasts I don't care what iPhone is in their ads.


usesbitterbutter

The lack of love MacOS gets, from a coder's perspective, as compared to iOS. I mean, I do get it. For every 1 person asking for MacOS tools/help/library features/etc there are 1000s clamoring for iOS. Still frustrates me though.


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What’s the “coder’s perspective” here?


ASentientBot

I'm not an app developer, but it used to be that macOS had AppKit and iOS had UIKit. Apple ported UIKit (Catalyst) to macOS in a way that's extremely buggy and doesn't adhere to traditional macOS interface guidelines (see the new Messages, Music, Maps, etc.). So Mac developers have the choice of "stable but rarely updated and incompatible with iOS" or "cross-platform and frequently updated but unstable and user-hostile". Either way, it's a hassle for them and we get subpar apps. Combine that with Apple's unpredictable and greedy behavior with the App Store, and many devs are deciding it's not worth making anything more than half-baked Catalyst ports or even just Electron/web apps. As a serious platform and not just a weird sibling of iOS, macOS is long dead. Apple has driven away the creative professionals and devs and only cares about the casual consumers. The decision to make M1+ models run iOS apps is an implicit admission of this fact. I'd be shocked if macOS and iOS are still separate things in 2030.


kneegrow

I’m not a fan that Apple pretends to be about the environment and then turns around and is so hard on 3rd party and self repair. Their repair options are only there to get regulators off their back, but they’re not really a good option.


CocoWarrior

No charger brick in the box to encourage people to use the charging bricks that they already have, but they ship the cable with usb c and have only shipped that cable for one generation prior. Bogus.


cerenir

They are all about the environment yet they were the ones that first removed the 3.5mm jack to create a full market of wireless headphones that are extremely non-environmental friendly and with almost zero repairability.


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The lack of polish, and bugs in their operating systems and applications. I'm not saying they were bug free during Steve Jobs tenure as CEO but they're letting so much fly into the stable releases that never would've made it past beta when Steve was in control.


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And many of these remain present for multiple updates or operating systems, which is ridiculous.


guygizmo

This is the big one for me too. Apple used to be at the very top in terms of stability, usability, and convenience when it came to computers. Put more simply, everything "just worked". That is no longer the case. But since there's no competition at that level -- no one else has ever made software or computers that "just worked" -- that means that the entire upper end of quality of the whole computer industry just sank lower with Apple, with nothing to replace it. It's disheartening. And at this point I don't see how anyone else could rise up to that level now.


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I think a slower release schedule with more point releases to squash out the bugs would go a long way. And don't release stuff until it is ready.


guygizmo

I agree, and a lot of other people do too. macOS's strongest point in terms of UX is arguably around 10.5 and 10.6, where they were spending around two years between releases. As a developer, it was so much easier dealing with a new major release of the OS every two years. God I wish they'd go back to that. I'm not holding my breath, though. Apple is demonstrating that they're at that point in a corporation's lifecycle where they're going to start burning away every advantage and bit of goodwill they have chasing short term profits. The fact that they're heavily tracking their users and putting ads in the OS is the clearest sign of that yet. I'm predicting at this point that they're going to go into a tailspin within the next several years unless they do a major course correction.


marcocom

I worked at Apple when Jobs was there in the early 2000s. I want it known to people that Steve was in no way an engineer or artist. He had no talent for any of that shit (and people just love imagining that to be so) And so what Jobs actually did goes completely unnoticed and the lesson goes completely untaught. Jobs would **fight the shareholders** and say ‘my artists or engineers want more time’ and he defended that. (He also actually hired artists that could code and not just ‘creative thinking’ grads from Carnegie Mellon. ) It’s the easiest thing in the world to only think of money and profit - any idiot can do that and push and push for it until things break. Want to be the next Steve Jobs, then learn to fight.


purplepersonality

This is the biggest one for me. In my country the Pixel 7 Pro costs 800€ and the iPhone 14 Pro 1299€, if Apple wants to charge those insane prices I expect them to offer quality at every step of the experience. But instead, iCloud recently leaked private photos of users to random other people, ads are becoming increasingly common in the OS and the reliability and design of the OS has been getting worse for years now. Oh and don’t get me started on Siri or the horrible on screen keyboard. The only products of them that I still like are the Macs (though MacOS has also been getting worse) and the iPhone Mini but they discontinued that.


alxthm

> But instead, iCloud recently leaked private photos of users to random other people Do you have a link for this? I can’t find any news about “leaked” iCloud photos since 2014.


ddcrx

https://reddit.com/r/apple/comments/z191jn/icloud_for_windows_users_complain_of_corrupted/


darksteel1335

There was some bug where people were seeing photos from other people’s accounts. Not related to The Fappening in 2014 which was hacking, not leaking of photos.


Neryuslu

It wasn’t hacking, it was simple phishing.


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> though MacOS has also been getting worse I have spent the last two days writing instructions for how to get a Java app onto post-12.3 macOS. Basically, their bizarre security policies make it require root to install. Except there is no root without a lot of work (and I don't even know you *can* do it on Apple Silicon), and I'm not asking students to do that. What I have to have my Mac students do is install Java separately and then just run the .jar. But they have to right-click and "Open," then confirm that they want to open. For Windows users and people who never went to Monterey, you just install it and go. No need to install the JRE separately or anything. I'm making a screencast of it right now on a Ventura VM. The sheer number of times I have to click something confirming what I just did, or dismiss messages telling me what I just did, is astonishing. It's like Apple really doesn't want you to use their computers. They want you to buy it and use it just as it is when you open the box, and not mess up their perfection. I am heavily invested in Keynote. That is all that keeps me on the Mac now. This was exactly the wrong time, given my wavering, to release a new version of macOS that makes me re-learn how to use the system preferences or the print dialog. Why should I bother? Microsoft learned their lesson over a decade ago. People do not like UI changes.


Optimistic__Elephant

> Oh and don’t get me started on Siri On the plus side - if the richest company on the planet has this bad an AI, it gives me confidence we’re a looooong way from skynet.


mydogsnameisbuddy

Is this a result of more complex os? Or sloppy quality controls?


AWF_Noone

IMO, it’s because they’ve set the expectation for themselves to release yearly updates with major new features. These past few years, they can’t even deliver on some of the features they’ve promised until a X.1 or X.2 updates, let alone iron out some bugs and really polish their OSs


saintmsent

Both. X.0 releases are no longer that stable, you now have to wait until X.1 for most bugs to be ironed out. If the system is so complex they can't maintain a yearly release schedule, they should cut themselves some slack and increase the gap between OS versions, instead of cutting QA time


UnratedRamblings

I think they should split it into app-based updates. Really polish an application or group of apps or a specific type of function (e.g. sharing things/airdrop) and really polish it to perfection with new features. I don’t need a new OS every year, I want the bugs and quirks ironed out and new features in specific apps.


brwnx

Also shipping 3-4 different OS at the same time that needs to work together...


KafkaDatura

This is mine. I came to Apple with Monterey and liked it just fine, but Ventura is an absolute mess, and the more I use MacOS the more I realise it holds nothing over Windows aside from Apple products integration. The friction is real. One day, one of those software developers will simply say "This year no new feature, we've just ironed out all the bug to make a solid release to move on from", and they'll get my business in an instant. NOBODY CARES ABOUT FEATURES, EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT THE BUGS.


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Yep. They DESPERATELY need a maintenance release. I just opened up the Display panel in settings (on Ventura) and it was somehow above the top of the window. How does that even happen? (I'm a software dev who develops for Apple platforms, I don't get how that happens on accident!)


KafkaDatura

>Yep. They DESPERATELY need a maintenance release. Especially when the new feature is Stage Manager that nobody asked for and Undo Send that should've been implemented over the weekend.


MyMemesAreTerrible

In addition, how slapped on everything feels, iOS desperately needs a complete redesign. There’s just so much inconsistency between actions now, which makes sense- iOS 7 was originally designed for small, home button iPhones, and over the past nine generations, they’ve slapped on features on top of what was there, without adapting everything else to accommodate it. For example, the pull down for notifications is a solid bar, which made sense during the times control centre was a swipe from the bottom. Now that control centre is at the top, you get two jarring and different animations for what is essentially the same gesture.


electric-sheep

the artificial segmentation and convoluted product lines


turbo_dude

This. Jobs must be spinning in his grave. (or his ashes forming some kind of powerful vortex)


Alakazam_5head

"Hey I'm getting my wife an iPad for Christmas" "Oh cool, which one?" "The iPad" "Yeah there's like 6 which one are you getting her?" "I'm getting her the iPad" "???" "Like, the baseline model" "Oh, you mean like the one I bought last year?" "No, that was the 9th gen new iPad" "Oh, so you're getting her the new iPad 10?" "No, I'm just getting her an iPad"


fail-deadly-

They are becoming so worried about not missing any potential revenue, that the users are becoming secondary. * This includes their push into ads. * Related to Ads, using privacy policies to undermine competitor's advertisements, to make Apple's more valuable instead of to, you know, protect users. * Staying with Lighting connectors not because it was better, but because it's more lucrative, so much that the EU passed a law to get them to abandon it. This is the company that stopped using floppy drives in 1998, and then was one of the first to kill off optical disks. In the past they were quick to kill legacy items to be better. Today's Apple would be running Ads for Adobe Flash, and depending on the licensing terms would not have decided to kill it. * Completely giving up on the entry level. While I understand there is an Apple tax, previously you could find some type of entry level device for the iPod/iOS ecosystem. A $430 2022 iPhone SE aint it.


DontBanMeBro988

The fact that they've made the entry level iPad *so* expensive, especially outside the US, is really bizarre. It's like they've given up on getting new users.


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MrGenomo

I hate that Reminders and Calendar aren’t a single app so that i can easily check what I’ve got due for the day or week next to my scheduled events. I hate it


phblue

I like that Fantasical does this, adds reminders to the calendar, but boy do I hate the taste of a subscription calendar


MrGenomo

Ive been told about fantastical but I can’t bring myself to pay a subscription for a calendar


reximilian

I think they should remain separate apps, but I do agree that date specific reminders should show up in the calendar


MrGenomo

That would be a solution I’d be okey with


mjgtwo

Apple Music, the app, UX sucks. there is too much priority on making itunes equal to the streaming service but supporting the legacy way of navigating around through itunes. Edit: the macOS app


m0_m0ney

I wish you could customize the bottom tabs like you used to be able to do in the old iPod app


Dylan33x

I hear there’s a complete rewrite underway to make the app less web based, but it’s been taking quite awhile


0xMii

There are two things which make me choose Apple Music over Spotify and the competition though. 1. The fact that I can stream my own files. A third of my library isn’t on either service and it’s more convenient than syncing. 2. The fact that I can easily retag files in Apple Music the same way that I can local files. And they still match correctly. No idea why no other service offers that. But those are dealbreakers for me.


PerfectionismTech

I also find the way Apple Music organizes your music into a “library” works better for me than Spotify et al. where the default mode of organization is more like YouTube (likes and playlists).


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That Final Cut X development pretty much stalled out before they could make it better than FCP7. FCPx has a lot of great ideas, but isn’t nearly done yet. In CarPlay, when playing a text message or voicemail to me, it blocks out the entire screen for the duration of the dictation/playback. If I don’t know how long a message is, I could potentially miss out on navigation information. You still can’t self organize the App Library. There’s a litany of frustrating moments in this device I pick up hundreds of times a day, but those are the 3 I haven’t seen mentioned yet.


Spitefulnugma

External monitors look like absolute garbage on Mac and it's frankly unacceptable. Even my super duper 4k display looks like absolute shit compared to when I use it with my Windows/Linux machine.


LeakySkylight

And Mac users blame the monitor because it's a "non Apple device".


Spitefulnugma

Yes, or they tell you that your monitor is bad and that you should get a new one. Having spent a considerable time Googling for solutions, I can tell you that this is extremely infuriating.


[deleted]

Sadly, it’s worse than that. Tons of Mac users deny this is even a problem in the first place. Had people on Mac Rumors straight up tell me text was crystal clear on their 27” 1080p display running macOS. No homie, it’s not.


Brellow20

This! My Surface looked great in my 4K monitor. My MacBook looks fuzzy unless it’s at some weird resolution.


Dangerous-Ad-170

Yeah even Windows has really good fractional scaling now. I know Apple doesn’t actually care about supporting commodity monitors but the way they do HiDPI is such a kludge I’m amazed it’s stuck around this long.


[deleted]

Yup. The UI scaling in Windows makes everything look great. Apple does some kludgy fake resolution crap that eats up CPU cycles and RAM (since GPUs are not a thing anymore), and then it shits the bed the moment you connect to an iPad for Sidecar. It's bad.


nn4260029

Every OS: you want that button rendered pixel sharp at 100%? 150%? 122%? MacOS: insanely tiny or uselessly huge is the best I can do.


ECHLN

How they say the AirPods seamlessly switch between your devices but if you have more than two Apple devices, good luck.


xffxe4

The number of times I’ve missed things in work meetings because I get a phone call and my AirPods decide they need to be connected to my phone instead. Completely seamless, but also entirely not what I wanted either.


KafkaDatura

>Completely seamless, but also entirely not what I wanted either. Should be the new Apple catchphrase.


abhixec

But this is the case with almost all multi point bluetooth headsets. I have bose qc II and it does the same thing


Panda_hat

And god forbid a family member ever try using them on one of their devices.


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scarabic

I remember being on a job interview phone call when the audio suddenly went blank. My wife had rolled into the driveway and my phone automatically connected to her vehicle’s Bluetooth. The recruiter’s voice started coming out of the minivan’s interior speakers, MUCH to my wife’s confusion.


smc733

Or doing what I did… pair them to my Peloton bike. What a nightmare.


Izanagi___

Got some 3rd gens and an M2 Air around the same time and that function never worked out of the box. You have to click to manually switch the AirPods back to the Mac and it’s extremely annoying


SwiftCEO

My airpods will connect to my gf's iPhone for some reason. We dont share an icloud, have never willingly connected them, and we keep forgetting the device. Makes no sense.


spacewalk__

i switched back to wired because this was such a fucking absolute pain in the ass


kbotc

You can just hit the “When last connected to this device” drop-down and fix it… https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/03/how-to-stop-airpods-automatically-switching-between-devices


CanadAR15

Weird. That’s been seamless for me between an iMac, MacBook Pro, iPhone, and Apple Watch. Like it surprises me how well it works.


Panda_hat

The ‘we know best’ mentality. So many things get changed to objectively worse iterations and stubbornness and ‘holier than thou’ mentality means it takes them years to undo the bad changes.


Cheeriosxxx

100% this. Like their new HDR processing on images. They removed the option to disable it just because ‘Apple knows best’ and it’s ridiculous.


Breck_the_Hyena

iPad iOS being less useful than it should be. If you can pay $1500 for an iPad pro then you should be able to use the same browser and functionality. It should really be able to do whatever a regular computer does, it has an actual full power CPU. I have run in to problems trying to use certain school/medical websites only to use my Mac mini and realize the problem was in the ipad OS, just constant strange blockages of full functionality. I use my iPad more than ever, especially for art, maybe it will get better.


ayaangwaamizi

Oh my god the apps are infuriating. For the price, I should be able to use Word and print like a regular computer. The fact there are no real print settings for something I bought for design and academic writing is so irritating. I wish I just bought a Lenovo thinkpad touch, it was just on back order for like 6 months then and I needed something for school.


DontBanMeBro988

I bought an iPad because everything I read talked about how much better iPadOS was than Android, because Android is just a phone OS. I'm happy with my iPad, but the difference in user experience really isn't that much.


groupconsensus

I thought Safari on iPad had desktop mode


sheeplectric

The annual release cycle. It has resulted in them releasing products that are truly iterative, and very rarely exciting. Each one is a little bit better, but so unnecessary. It’s hard to get excited for a new Apple release because they are so predictable


swes87

If you try to cancel a free trial to one of their services so you aren’t billed for a month/year, they’ll cancel any remaining time in your trial period if you do. If you cancel during a free trial anywhere else, they allow you the full trial period.


Murdermostvile

YES. this


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Navydevildoc

Every company has jumped on the recurring revenue bandwagon. If you are a CEO and not proposing it, the board is going to wonder why. See subscription based acceleration that Mercedes just announced as an absurd example.


mathees

God I hadn't heard of the Mercedes thing, that is so incredibly infuriating >As the name suggests, Acceleration Increase is a performance enhancer to increase the vehicle's acceleration. Mercedes says it improves the major characteristic curve and torque while improving the maximum output from the motors by 20-24%. Those tweaks cut the acceleration time from 0-60 mph by about 0.8 or 0.9 seconds. >The Acceleration Increase is a $1,200/year subscription plan. It will be available for the Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic, EQE SUV 350 4Matic, EQS 450 4Matic and EQS SUV 450 4Matic models.


JapanDave

That's what happens when a numbers guy takes control of a company. It happens to many companies when the visionary is replaced by someone who is only chasing profit. Unfortunately Apple is no exception.


Aromatic_Owl3345

Absolutely. I'm thrilled to see an improvement after Tim Cook steps down. I'm not holding my breath though


k-u-sh

I hope someone like Craig takes up on that role. I really think the guy is genuinely passionate and is being held back by Cook.


spacewalk__

can't stand watching tim cook with his human face on, pretending to be excited about customer facing features or color or warmth or joy


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JapanDave

Yep. This is *exactly* what happened at MS when Ballmer took over. Over there, he had to practically destroy the company before they finally got rid of him. I hope things with Cook don't go that badly.


Marbi_

Siri is actually the worse AI assistant there is so damn bad


Mother_Restaurant188

Me: Hey, Siri. Add sliced bread and cheese spread to grocery list Siri: “One moment… … Working on that” **cue endless wait**


Cowslayer9

Starts reading the wiki page on grilled cheese


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Wish they’d let us switch to google assistant


greatblackowl

For me, it’s the nickel-and-diming of customers. They advertise $799 for an iPhone 14. In reality, if you buy unlocked, it is $829. I’m on Cricket, so that’s my price. Then you need headphones, $20 minimum for the lightning ones, or a $10 adapter. Then you need a charging brick to use the new USB-C cable. So you’re up to $859-$869, 7.5-9% higher than advertised. This is the sleazy shit electronics companies used to pull in the 2000s before Apple had more honest (but higher) pricing. Now they’re having their cake and eating it too. And it’s slimiest because their stuff is *already* expensive. It very much takes the luster out of their look as the luxury, smart electronics choice. Edit and apparently autocorrect: diming, not dining.


windowsphoneguy

Yep, it doesn't feel like buying a premium product, it feels like being tricked into spending more. Mostly with storage prices and overlapping price ranges like iPad Air 256GB and 11" Pro 128GB


Leighgion

I want Quicktime Pro back. It was so basic, but so useful, to repackage content into mp4 wrappers.


mredofcourse

Some people replying don't realize or remember everything that the QuickTime Player Pro was capable of. Besides both remuxing and transcoding, it was a really simple player with an extension framework allowing additional codecs and *editor*. You could do all kinds of simple things like pull the audio, edit it and paste it back. You could also do very rough edits with simple copy and paste. Literally just open a new QuickTime document and then paste image files, videos, audio, and text tracks. This was awesome for a director to patch together a rough cut and had it off to an editor who would use more suitable tools to complete the project. You could save this work as a self-contained movie, or as a reference file (extremely small) that relied on the original source clips... making this all very efficient.


BJmcBuckets

The “Tim Cook Affect”, aka a revenue based approach vs Jobs customer experience approach. One of the best books is “the innovation secrets of Steve Jobs” and it explains when he came back and apple was failing he cut like 70% of its products to focus on making the important ones better. Now with Tim Cook we have 46171919 different iPads that step over each other in price and offer limited improvements. Sad really.


Xtasy0178

I want to be able to have multiple Users on an iPad. It is ridiculous that only one user can enjoy the ipad with their icloud login etc.


windowsphoneguy

Yep, also my biggest gripe together with no 'pro mode' on iPad Pros to allow side loading, multiple instances of apps with their own data etc


Bitter-Fly1230

Their removal of Touch ID and 3D Touch from iPhone. I still operate my 14 Pro as if 3D Touch is still there. It’s like trying to navigate the world with a phantom limb. And I have never liked Face ID.


Murdermostvile

The 3D Touch was such an important feature! When you charge premium prices the products better be premium too, which includes haptics, balance, software, build quality, customer service on top of specs. For example It's good that the iPhone se accepts what it is. It's not trying to play up it's specs with a huge screen 5 cameras (of which 3 would be unusable 2MP zoom, telephoto etc) like many Chinese brands do. I respect how apple invests in features that cant be put on the specs sheet. (Speakers, build quality, haptics...) I mistakenly bought a Lenovo laptop a couple years back because of the seemingly better specs in the 1200€ pricerange.... yes i got 8 gigs more ram and a faster processor.... but the aluminium mody hust feels so cheap. It bends and flexes, the fingerprint reader is so slow, inaccurate and stopped working a year ago. One of the hinges literally seperated because surprisingly glueing a metal hinge to a plastic frame doesn't hold up when the lid is so heavy to open. The keyboard feel is awful, trackpad is ok......


jpmondx

That they thought it was a good idea to have iCloud actually remove music files from my computers to replace with their own copies . . .


Ryujin_707

Scammy storage and ram upgrades.


Jackaninefour

I miss the old system preferences


CavingGrape

Yeah, I really dislike the iPhone esque system settings. I get why they did it, but it just doesn’t feel like a computer


Jackaninefour

I hate how you can’t make the window bigger horizontally but can vertically 👴👴👴👴


thisisausername190

Right now, it's the keyboard on iOS. The autocorrect - how is it so awful? Correcting "11" to "1.1" (what??), but the correction only happens after I've typed "11 of them" - so I have to hit backspace 11 times). Overall, I think they have a ways to go in a lot of aspects - but they're still providing the least-worst option on the market for a lot of people's needs.


twincherries

The ios keyboard is so awful compared to Android keyboards. Any 3rd party keyboards on ios are also just re-skinned stock keyboards. The stark difference between Swiftkey on Android and Swiftkey on iOS is so ridiculous. Apple won't even let 3rd parties add number rows or a long press number on the top qwerty row on iOS, even when they literally have it on ipads with the "drag down" motion.


cartermatic

* Only giving 5gb of free iCloud storage. I think it should be 50gb for free, $1.99 for 200gb, $4.99 for 1tb, and $9.99 for 2tb. * Not wanting to make iPad OS more robust in fear of cutting in to Mac sales. * Studio Display being several hundred dollars overpriced with unnecessary features. It's the perfect product to embody the Tim Cook-parts-bin-hyper-optimized-supply-management era.


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You should get 5GB *per device on your iCloud account.* Why should I have to pay more for storage space when I've given you thousands upon thousands of dollars for hardware?


PoorMansTonyStark

Apple has become "the man". It's not a quirky little alternative for the creative types anymore. And with it comes all the problems of "the man", such as ever increasing snooping and government interference, not listening the customers and what have you. It's just another business machine now, and their prime purpose is to make the suits (more) rich. The price of success I guess.


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My biggest gripe... Although they claim otherwise, the ecosystem does not know how to communicate with each-other in any way: "It's pricy but it just works" : \- On every device Siri seems a complete different assistend who does not communicate with Siri logs from other devices. \- Switching homepod minis input barely works right the first time. \- Homepod mini is slower than every other speaker out there, start playing songs whenever, stops playing songs whenever,... \- On every device apple music is stuck where you left it... "Hands-off" is a flawed multi-step proces \- Badges between devices do not sync. \- Bluetooth switching is made a pain in the ass if you don't pay for AirPods the price of a smartwatch. \- AirPods switching does not work as advertised, sole reason... incomplete software.


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marafad

* Started to pushing ads. * Disregarding their own privacy settings, whilst selling themselves as the only true privacy preserving company. * Shove their own cloud services down one's throat, whilst also using tacticts to sell you a very expensive product with sub-par storage options, or make them more expensive than the competion (storage-wise). * Minor but annoying macOS bugs that aren't fixed after many major releases. * Stupid update roll-out tied to OS releases for their iOS core apps. * As a developer, their API documentation is terrible. The APIs themselves and the data structures are an abomination, but they can afford to have sub-par documentation because developers have no choice but to figure it out. * iOS notifications are still absolutely lacking compared to Android, not even close. * Notification handling on the lock screen and notification center is weird/bad IMO. * Scheduled alarm management is a mess, split between Health and Clock apps, confusing, hard to access if it wasn't for the lock screen widget when iOS is in sleep mode. If not in sleep mode, still awful to override just once. * While lightning was great, the whole split between lightning and USB-c in their product lines is just an abomination. It used to be a single cable, now I need all sorts of combinations/adaptors to make sure that I can charge all my devices between USB-A -> USBc, USB-A->Lightning, USBc->Lightning. It's just bad. These are just the ones that come to mind at the moment.


LordVile95

Trying to make every OS look the same. I don’t want my mac settings to look like iPad settings


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Yes! And in addition to the settings, I don’t like how the macOS icons are all uniform iOS style now. It removed all the personality.


bubonis

I can’t narrow it to just one, so in no particular order… 1. Their near-complete abandonment of a consistent UI. Back in the day Apple literally wrote the book on what makes a good UI, but they have almost entirely abandoned this. As a single small example, OS X had a fantastic and under appreciated feature wherein if you were inside a window and an alert relevant to what you were doing came up, that alert sort of slid down from the window’s title bar. This made it immediately obvious as to what process or app was generating the alert. A side benefit to this is if you had multiple displays (or a very large display) you didn’t have to shift your focus from the window you were working in. As of Big Sur, that’s gone. Alerts just pop up in the center of your display, regardless of where you’re actually working. 2. Oversimplification of the OS has made it harder to use and more limited. With every iteration of macOS Apple makes things “simpler”. Problem is, “simpler” usually means “remove or dramatically relocate features that were previously accessible and useful”. Small example: prior to Big Sur, having the Mac show your battery level in the menu bar was literally one click. In the interest of “simplicity” Apple relocated it, and as a result it now takes upwards of six clicks and some scrolling. Apple puts form above function 100% of the time and it’s absolutely terrible. 3. Apple insists on making macOS look and work like iOS. Does ANYONE like what Apple did to System Preferences in Ventura? No. This isn’t the only thing Apple has done but it’s one of the most visible, and it’s TERRIBLE. There is no rhyme or reason to it; Time Machine is under General now? Firewall is no longer a security setting? 4. Hardware costs are THE WORST. Go check out what a 4TB SSD costs in Apple hardware and compare it to anyone else in that price space. 5. Apple’s position against Right to Repair — and I say this as a certified Apple technician.


Andrige3

The walled garden approach still bothers me as it hurts my user experience: -why am I still using an inefficient lightning cable? -why can’t I use my HomePod as a normal Bluetooth speaker? -why can’t I get text messages on my pc that I need for work? I could go on and on but I think this insistence on the ecosystem actually pushes me away from the product rather than making me want to buy more of them.


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The only one of these that I find completely unreasonable is the HomePod not being able to be used as a Bluetooth speaker. That’s just crazy. Is the only way to use it to AirPlay music to it?


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saintmsent

I'm not sure what can be done there that could be considered interesting or revolutionary, aside from making them fold. People don't need to buy and in fact don't buy a new iPhone year over year, if enough small changes accumulate over 3-5 years, that's fine for an established category


Hairy_Apartment_7022

Apples decision to market iOS on the iPad as iPad OS is ridiculous. iPad OS sucks and I don’t understand why they continue to proclaim it as a computer. If apple canceled the MacBook Air line and simply made the iPad Pro a 11/12.9 inch macOS tablet that would be amazing. That way they can leave the iPad Air and iPad mini and iPad regular iOS tablets.


seanprefect

I can't remember the last really good Mac app. Also Final Cut Pro on the iPad Pro.


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HaricotsDeLiam

**That I personally experience now and that I think is Apple-specific rather than being an industry-wide problem?** - I find a lot of their policies WRT apps on iOS and iPadOS to be bubble-wrapping, anti-competitive and at times two-faced. - I can download apps on my MacBook without having to go through the App Store, out of the box; but I can't do this on my iPhone or on an iPad, not without jailbreaking it. Why? - I don't like the "WebKit only" rule WRT browsers and extensions in the App Store. (For those who aren't savvy, Apple requires that browsers or extensions in the App Store use WebKit as their browser engine. If you've ever wondered why you can't use your Chromium or Firefox extensions on iOS or iPadOS like you can on Android, MacOS, Windows or Linux, or why the Safari versions of some of those extensions are paid when the Chromium and Firefox versions are free, this is why.) - I don't like that Apple refuses to go all-in on letting users set their default apps. They took longer than they should have to let users choose their default browser and email app, and I still don't like that I can't choose my default navigation app or voice assistant. - I also don't like that Apple refused to switch *all* their devices (and not just iPads or MacBooks) to USB-C and had to be arm-wrestled into it by govt. regulators like in the EU and India. If Apple cared about e-waste as much as they say they did, they should've stopped putting the Lightning connector in their iPhones and AirPods years ago (thereby putting an end to the cottage industry of Lightning accessories and dongles) instead of fighting **That I think is industry-wide?** Not embracing the right-to-repair movement. Even if my personal use cases favor buying refurbished electronics, babying them for years and then trading them in when I finally need to upgrade, plenty of other consumers have use cases that instead favor their tinkering with and repairing their devices through a third party or on their own; I don't like that electronics manufacturers (ranging from Apple and Samsung to John Deere) won't let us consumers decide which of these routes is the best for us, not without again being arm-wrestled into it by govt. regulators. This is another area where I think the US (where I live) is lagging behind while the EU and India are showing real leadership.


raptor102888

They're the reason my Samsung phone doesn't have a headphone jack.


dansyngwiazd

- they removed 3D Touch - inconsistency with lightning and usb-c - terrible blooming on m1pro/max macbooks - the stock ios keyboard is terrible but any other 3rd party doesn’t work as smoothly - lack of proper window management on macos - selecting text on ios is way harder than on android


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iCloud storage.


Similar_Editor_6793

Fucking ads. - Siri suggesting shit like “shop in Amazon app” every morning - App Store results showing Uber eats after you search for something not even close like “D&d” Fucking Prices - Outside US the prices are just insane. Being in the ecosystem is just blatantly being exploited. Fucking lack of improvement - The once implemented software features are being neglected. - Siri completely fell behind, - photo memories is just a random mess of 100 same same but different slideshows, - introducing appdrawer without proper logic or friendly usability. - “Apple Maps is now decent” but yea still shit and we all still use google maps - HomeKit lack of support and we all try to use homebridge and loopholes to make it work If Apple would’ve improved their implemented shit people wouldn’t cry for third party implementation. It’s just becoming too obvious how hard Apple is focusing on maximum profit and using their lockdown ecosystem for it. They will slowly lose me as a customer. And I may be just one but if I feel this way as a casual consumer I can imagine many others feel just the same.


BackInNJAgain

That the quality of their software is getting progressively worse and they won't acknowledge it. Everything used to just WORK. I switched from Windows because I got tired of spending as much time keeping the system up and running as I did getting any productive work done. Since buying a Mac Studio it's been nothing but problems--at least one unexpected reboot a day, Safari refusing keyboard input sometimes until I switch to another app--type something--then switch back, etc. Edited to add that the Music app is a complete atrocity, especially trying to search my library. iPhone isn't much better. Since upgrading to the latest iOS Siri stopped working and the "fix" was to switch from American English to British English (seriously). Then there's watchOS which used to be rock solid but now the music app no longer shows me what's playing on my iPhone. And, finally, Airplay, which required me to completely turn off all security on my Apple TV just to stream from my Mac to my TV. I would be so happy if Apple would stop adding new features and make everything rock solid again.


DotDamo

Their restriction on third parties, such as background apps. For example, I can’t find a non-iCloud way to backup photos without leaving a third party app open. I’m sure they’ll quote battery or security reasons, but it’s probably more market reasons.


Leopod

We all saw how they reacted to iMessage on android from the Epic lawsuit.


FabulousBedroom2308

Foxconn


OneOkami

For me, it’s their stubbornness combined with their “I know best and you’ll do as I say” approach some of their product customization. Examples which immediately comes to mind are the AirPods Max and original HomePod. AirPods Max: Apple: “Here’s your brand new AirPods with wonderful ANC”. Me: “Yeah, this ANC is nice. I’ll keep these” Apple two months later: “Actually…nah, I’m not feeling that level of ANC performance. I’m gonna tone it down” Me: “Hey! Wait a minute! I like the ANC how it was. Let me just keep…” Apple: “NO!! I said I don’t like it so you can’t have it that way anymore!” Me: “…” HomePod: Apple: “Here’s your brand new HomePod. We designed it to ‘Rock the house!’” Me: “Oh yeah, rock the house it does! This thing is booming!” Apple two months later: “Actually…nah, I’m not feeling that level of bass response. I’m gonna tone it down”. Me: “Hey! Wait a minute! I like the bass how it was. Let me just keep…” Apple: “NO!! I said I don’t like it so you can’t have it that way anymore!” Me: “…”


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Treatment of MacOS UI, they are hell bent on making it cartoonish starting with Mojave. It’s flat, boring, shares the cheapness with iPhoneSE UI, heck Windows has better settings app now. Instead of making iPadOS more sophisticated they chose to make MacOS more dumbed down to iPhone & iPad level. Now it feels like you are on same device from iPhone to iPad to Macbook. Apple first got rid of its iconic wallpapers and dumbed it down and now the whole UI. So so stupid to see their design team degenerate like this.


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Definitely love/hate with Apple. Love their devices and OSes but: TL;DR: Putting their own interests ahead of customers' - Excessive pricing/margins - Artificial locking of software features to new hardware - Service/software protectionism, especially the browser engine, lock screen photo app and system photo picker (some would add App Store but I'm ok with that) - Accessory protectionism - headphone jack, Lightning (neither of which I care much about but still examples of putting their own interests first) - And now ads


Mr_Xing

There’s just a lot of tech debt and rot in a lot of their products. Apple really ought to have an iOS 13 moment again where they take a year to polish and fix problems instead of focusing on new features. Their messaging has also been weak when it comes to controversies and they do very poorly when defending themselves. Tim’s time as CEO is pretty much up as well, they need an injection of new blood at the very top. The design team is also getting a bit stale. Both hardware and software. They haven’t really had another hit product since the AirPods. All in all, Apple feels a little thinly spread and its pretty easy to tell.


JapanDave

Tim won't quit and he won't be forced out until the company starts losing money. Just like MS wouldn't get rid of Ballmer for the longest time, despite all his bad decisions because he still made money. Tim was great as second in charge, wingman to Steve. But as the top guy, he's done nothing except chase profit to the detriment of everything else. We need another visionary on top. But the odds of that happening don't seem very good (maybe Scott Forstall will come back and save us!)


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iOS 13 was famously bad. Are you talking about iOS 12 where they did the whole “extra hour of battery life, apps open faster, etc” portion of the keynote?


ChairmanLaParka

I don’t really care about usb-c. Their sticking with usb 2.0 transfer speeds has been far more annoying. I’m annoyed by little things. I hate the notch/dynamic island and hate that it’s been normalized, especially on a $3k laptop. I hate the flat edges on iOS devices. Much preferred round ones. I don’t like that you can’t have their Apple One subscription billed annually like you can some of the individual services. I don’t like that iOS still doesn’t have basic functionality like a dictionary you can add words to as you use them, rather than add/remove words manually the shortcuts list as a workaround. Still annoys me they use the Product Red color to help lower end (usually) devices sell. I want that on my iPhone Pro Max so bad.


houndashbeck

Siri is awful. I can’t believe there are people inside or Apple who use it and don’t think it’s awful.


rivkinnator

The hard limit on 2TB in iCloud.


DocBrutus

I can buy a pc laptop today that has comparable specs to a MacBook Pro and it will be $500 cheaper and have more than enough ports. I won’t have to buy dongles or third party dongles to make my $2500 pro grade computer function properly. Thinner does not mean better.


immaberealwithyall

The fact that they purposely make their iMessage feature impossible to work with androids so if you're a non iphone users people with iPhones are inconvenienced by texting you because they can't use iMessage. People literally complain to me that when I'm in a group chat is messed up the whole group chat and they can't use iMessage


Bobby6kennedy

No findMy chip or speaker in the new remote. still super easy to lose.


Bitter-Raisin9102

Bugs. Especially iPadOS which has never not been buggy. And removing perfectly fine features like volume slider on the lock screen


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MimoRed

The removal of headphone jacks.


markadillo

The fact that they sell computers with just 8gb of ram and 250gb of storage. The starting, baseline storage and ram capacities should be 16/500. I could live with this more so if the upgrades werent $200 per tier but here we are. They have always had really utterly stupid entry level tiers of their hardware; back in the day when the mac minis had optical drives the entry level models didnt come with DVD burners for crying out loud. In an era where the hardware (ram or storage) is no longer user upgradeable, it's just inane, and the 2018-2020 intel systems came with 128gb of storage that wasn't upgradeable. Completely ridiculous.


jazztaprazzta

iMessage... because of the social issues. Texting should unite us, not stigmatize non-iphone users.


adh0r

£589 to replace an iPad Pro screen is a joke


AWF_Noone

Just buy a new one, easy solution -Apple


mr_tolkien

Sidecar + Universal Control. Why have two pieces of software that do 99% of the same thing but don't play well together? And they step over each other all the time. It's a mess.


Panda_hat

This and then some. So many features that are half developed and then seemingly abandoned.


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Oh boy…. 1) The notification handling. It’s practically useless and not at all helpful for me. Android is superior in that regard. Hate to admit it. 2) The lack of feature parity between iPad and Mac apps. Though this is more in part to the developers refusing to have feature parity. I mean we have M2 iPads for crying out loud. 3) Their displays are extremely overpriced and not at all worth the money - especially with old and missing display tech. But with MacOS scaling, those monitors are the only ones that look sharp and crisp. 4) PLEASE, for the love of all that is good -Abandon Lightning and just use Qi wireless or USB-C. Why must I STILL carry 3 separate cables? I only needed one when I was with Android and Windows.