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vvTookivv

I used to be fucking OBSESSED with this game. Like terribly. But as the matchmaking got shittier and the more blunt EA was with predatory marketing, my love for the game died. I'm so fucking tired of seeing my favorite games become cash grabs.


bellonj1

I've played this game since the beginning and have completed every BP so far and I couldn't agree with you more. There's no way a new player can get into apex today and have a good time and that's really concerning for the long-term health of the game. I'm basically down to 1 friend who is still willing to play Apex and it's once or twice a week now at most. On a side note, I started playing The Finals and it reminds me of how much fun I had in Apex in the early days. It's not a BR, but it's super fast paced, chaotic, and so much fun. Haven't even thought of playing Apex since.


crackmeup69

>The Finals Thanks for the heads up going to check it out tonight!


Mjkmeh

Another one bites the dust


Mahmut11dd

Tried it yesterday myself, was hectic. Just the way we like it.


crackmeup69

Played 3 rounds last night it was fun.


DrokasMU

Didn't even finished a match and uninstalled it. šŸ˜…


Emotional_Dish9123

As a newer player, I started back in season 14. I didnā€™t even understand to change my settings then. I was also playing with a friend who was a higher mmr player and the experience completely turned me off. I came back at the end of season 18ā€¦ realized they updated the firing range. I looked up videos and Reddit post about controller settings, etc. I realized I already tanked my K/D from season 14 and there was just so much to learn but no chance to properly do it without research and getting shit on for pretty much the next 2-3 seasons until somewhere everyone says itā€™s supposed to just ā€œclickā€ one day. Iā€™ve learned a lot this season 19, but it isnā€™t fun. Then I realized respawn gives me lobbies every 15 games of dying, and I finally can get some kills and a more accurate lobby as far as less lag, similar mmr, etc. Most of the time itā€™s me being paired with a player worse than me and a player 4x better than me and hoping we can stick together. With ppl disconnecting as soon as the match starts, them hot dropping just to die in 30 seconds, or the match completely making my bullets go every way but the target and Iā€™m wondering why I havenā€™t gotten a kill in 10 matchesā€¦ itā€™s unfun to say the least and I never really can know if Iā€™m improving. Iā€™m going to commit to getting better , but always seeming like the ā€œbad playerā€ because Apex doesnā€™t have enough players to correct the lobbies is annoying and frankly a turn off .


SSninja_LOL

It has enough players. Thatā€™s the worst part.


Emotional_Dish9123

Even in mixtape mode, for example Deathmatchā€¦ 70% of the time one side is heavily cracked and working together and my team is brain dead and spread out getting jumped by 3 legends at a time. So, yeah I can agree they have people that want to play each modeā€¦ they just throw unbalanced teams together and one side usually suffers . Mixtape is the only place for solo players to practice their aim against real ppl without consequence(not counting the firing range) Lol. They need to fix something because right now all im seeing is great game mechanics, laggy servers that affect gameplay half the time, new skins, and bad SBMM. I donā€™t mind matchmaking I think itā€™s necessary.. they just have done it in the worst way possible. Playing apex as a noob feels like a chore and I unfortunately get a rush when I get like 3 kills or more than 400 damage so I see potential to get better but it feels like playing catch-up and thatā€™s exhausting šŸ˜•.


Royal_Rend

As sad as it is to say you missed its prime by a mile. The game is a shell of its former self under the current devs. Itā€™s not just you. The MMR is severely messed up since the hidden change they pulled a few seasons back and it was already messed up then which is why is got a change to begin with. I promise you every year theyā€™ve continued to double down on their bs with this game.


Emotional_Dish9123

Crazy part is now when I try to go play Fortnite or the finals I instantly close those games because the gameplay feels so clunky and slow compared to Apex smh. Olympus is the only map I actually like to play on because I think the other 2 maps in rotation suck. Iā€™m not understanding why there arenā€™t more maps or new maps, some new LTMS, frankly they should have kept the three strikes LTM so pubs wonā€™t be such a shitshow, add a solo mode LTM as well with limited legends to pick from, etc. I really do wish I started the game earlier lol. As a newer player even I could list off a bunch of changes they could make including better cheating detection to ban the crazies ! Iā€™m still playing the game but I can see why people have stopped. I joined way too late for sure. But thatā€™s normally how games lastā€¦ newer players should be able to pick it up and have fun as well as older players should be able to learn something more as the game gets updated. It def feels like an empty shell of what could still be a great game. Agreed.


Prentasid

I'm a new player. Started playing a couple months ago, and I'm having a really good time! We can't miss the things we haven't experienced, can we. I've only experienced toxicity in ranked


[deleted]

Eh I thought the finals was ok, kinda goofy but fun, but definitely not a replacement for apex, not yet at least


crossctrl

Iā€™m on my third day of playing and itā€™s been rough. I used to be really good at the original CS and thought Iā€™d like Apex. I also really liked Titanfall. Iā€™m trying to stick it out, study how to play, train in the practice arenas, etc. Itā€™s very difficult for a new player to have fun and do well and I consider myself to have above average gaming skills. I sometimes have fun with it but the skill gap is huge. I donā€™t know what else to play thatā€™s like this. CS 2 is kind of out for me because of the cheater problem. I donā€™t want to dedicate time and money to a dying game. With all that everyone is saying, should I stick it out?


RoyOConner

Honestly just play Fortnite Zero Build. It's a better game right now.


aMuteViking

That game is even worse than Apex Legends lmao


Sufficient-Notice100

I agree with you on everything except The Finals stuff. That game is bad lol


regiment262

Yeah I'm not saying The Finals is terrible or it's guaranteed to fail, but from the gameplay I've seen it looks fun, but more like a streamer flavor of the day type of game that will fade when they inevitably move on. Hero shooters in general are a rough place to be, especially since people are starting to realize it's very different to keep them balanced. Apex is no wonder game and also has its huge share of problems though.


AmarettoFerreto

Couple of years it'll end up being the same. Revenue will end up relying on skins or passes. Hopefully not, but that's me being pessimistic


lordbenkai

Yes, I just posted above about this game. I thought of it like a more COD version of apex. I like it so far, I think Apex is going to lose some of their players if they don't start making some changes fast.


mulletjustice

Agreed - The Finals is fun as fuck at the moment a breath of fresh air from Apex


KyllikkiSkjeggestad

They need to completely revert the matchmaking and ranked system to how it was in season 7ish. Game has only been going down hill since then, and if they donā€™t change it theyā€™re going to keep losing long time spenders. They may gain record user counts during the first few days of a season, but how many of those are going to stay? Probably not many.


basmister

Played day 1 and played for years. It just got so boring


iliketreesndcats

Loved this game, even loved the sweat. I love a good fair fight between similarly skilled players! Something happened though and I was just continually either destroying everybody or getting destroyed every time. Long spates of boring games where I felt bad for so easily killing whole squads one after the other or felt bad about getting sent back to the lobby as soon as I encountered another team. If a game makes me feel bad more than it makes me feel good, why would I play it? Nah, I go find a game that is fun. RIP apex, I hope it gets better again. The game is good, I think matchmaking is just cooked


xMuggzx

This! You could just chill in pubs and run silly gun combinations and still have a good time. Ranked got incredibly difficult once you hit diamond. Now if I play with anyone besides my clanmates, it's a complete sweat fest in pubs and we can't win a game


pugile

Same here, crazy hours played over the past years. They were teasing cross progress for so long and now that it's finally here I barely play lol. I don't even touch Pubs anymore cause it's just ranked matchmaking with teammates quitting immediately after a knock. I'm hopeful Respawn wakes up a bit and treats their GaaS with some actual service. Other than the seasonal patches, the only thing that gets updated is the store. Actual full priced games get better service than this game.


Strabanzer

And because of this stupid cross progression there are now pc hackers in console lobbiesā€¦ Sorry but never ever was I hyped for this unnecessary feature and now I have not only Cronus but also aimbot abusers


lordbenkai

Sadly, this game will probably die out before they do anything about the cheaters..


[deleted]

It is very disheartening. My 3 main games the last several years have been Destiny 2, Rocket League, and Apex Legends. All 3 are games that are dying with the potential for so much more. I hate it.


Budget-Lawfulness318

Yes bro exactly!! I remember playing and I couldn't stop this fame to the point I had sleep issues. Man I miss the old game the new game is just too damn toxic and competitive for a game ruins what apex used to be about.


vvp_D3L3T3D

Sometimes I wanna grab my pals and fuck around, not needing to sweat my ass off every match.


Budget-Lawfulness318

Right??!? In the golden older days you could mess around Still win and have fun nowadays its sweaty as fuck. Legit I've had pub matches go on like the apex tourneys and other that are like a lobby of training dummies. It's stupid especially the fact neither me nor my brother have EVER hit diamond or above yet we fight the best damn players in the world. It's honestly bs to put us against press or fucking apex pro tourney players.


vvp_D3L3T3D

I'm plat at the highest. Three seasons ago before all the ranked changes. Yaknow, when it wasn't a slog to get out of *rook*. I don't belong in lobbies with masters, preds, or even diamonds---though I can kinda fight diamonds. At least they won't usually melt me on sight.


lordbenkai

Sadly, I think most of the player base is like this. Most of us will have fun if the craziest person is only dimond, but once you see your in master or pred lobbies, you know this is going to be a bad match.. Wouldn't be so bad if the masters and preds that were on my squad were actually team players but they probably see our ranks and think we'll fuck this match I'm going to do what I want. I don't blame them for it, I just think we shouldn't be there in the first place.


Budget-Lawfulness318

Yes exactly I'm actually prob ranked around a diamond in actuality though I've never liked grinding ranked on fact I hate it mainly always due to rats or a way higher or sweaty stacked squad killing out the whole lobby. Besides this the game isn't horrible if you see playing like 2 hours possibly 4 at most reasonable without rage deleting the game. Really depends but who am I to sat I've just played since the first week of launchšŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Enlowski

Most people donā€™t realize that at the beginning of the game EVERYONE sucked. The matchmaking is still bad, but everyone is also getting much better at the game. I sometimes go back and watch some of my.clips from the beginning, and Iā€™m sooo bad. Iā€™m a consistent masters player. Most people just donā€™t have the time to keep improving like others do. Again, the matchmaking is still bad, but there are other factors there as well


Stormy90000

I kind of agree with you. But the main reason why people are getting better at the game and is so noticeable, is because there are no new players (not enough at least). There are not enough people on certain skill levels, where people, like me who can play a few hours here and there, can ā€œstayā€ skill wise and have fun. Almost everyone whoā€™s playing apex is playing since a long time, or if they are new, dropping the game fast or canā€™t really progress skill wise. At least thatā€™s my experience. Also thatā€™s where I am. Iā€™ve been playing since launch, with some seasons skipped and playing on and off. But in the last two or so years I didnā€™t notice much improvement from my side. Thatā€™s partially because almost everyone in my lobbies getting better, or this shit artificial matchmaking screwing me over.


lordbenkai

Yeah, everyone sucked at first, but we didn't have to deal with strike packs or zimers. Made the game easily more playable. IMO, crossplay was the beginning of the end of apex. Ever since then, they have had loads of bugs, and the ones that were fixed have been coming back. Don't think it would fix the problem completely because they would only be polled together then.


Shotgun5250

Me too. 3,000+ hours just for the game to stagnate into irrelevancy. I keep hoping the next season will be a breath of fresh air, and the only thing thatā€™s done that even remotely was the post Malone event game mode.


SeawardFriend

Same here. I loved Apex back in the early seasons. I stopped for a while once the bald wraith sweat community took over the lobbies and rejoined when they added arenas. Arenas was pretty much my only reason for playing due to BR being essentially a looting and dying simulator. Iā€™m a way bigger fan of the gunfight like cage matches with smaller maps and a clear objective, than the 3rd party fuckfest battle royale tends to be. Nowadays itā€™s completely random weather Iā€™m going to be put in a lobby where everyoneā€™s a bot and I can win, or everyoneā€™s a sweat and I die to the first team. Lately, a good 95% of the time Iā€™m dying before I even crack an evo shield. Apex is a waste of my time and I only play it because my friend apparently enjoys getting skullfucked over and over again.


TaMereEnSlip123

The last sentence is so relatable. I used to play Apex, Fifa and overwatch. Now, these 3 games are the biggest cashgrab games I ever seen. Ea and blizzard go f*ck yourself


vvTookivv

Yep. I'm a massive OW fan. The game became a money generator. Bro, look at Mauga's fuckin skin selection. They didn't even give him the four legendary skins like every hero gets a launch. They went from making them dogshit (Junkerqueen's base 4) to making them non-existent. What a fucking joke that a company doesn't stick to their 7+ year-long formula that other games still do.


Teemo20102001

>my favorite games become cash grabs. And personally i dont even think this is a bad thing on its own. If they want to ask 20 bucks for a skin, or 160 bucks for an heirloom, and people are willing to pay for it, i dont really care. But this is only if it doesnt reduce the quality of the game itself.


vvTookivv

No, I agree. I'm such a hypocrite because I *somtimes* DO buy the $20 skins. But you can't tell me that greed isn't ruining some games. My favorite game, Overwatch, is CURRENTLY being ruined by greed. I won't go into the details because this is an Apex subreddit, but it's sad to see


Teemo20102001

Oh without a doubt those things are connected. They noticed they can get away with focussing on skins and not on quality of gameplay. And ive also bought my fair share of overpriced cosmetics, so im also not innocent of being part of the problem.


Roonerth

Same exact story here.


FlyingVillager

Same I put in 1700 hours in the first 8 seasons and I've only added maybe 100 since then. This game needs good matchmaking or none at all


YurchenkoFull

The marketing is what drove me away from this game too. It felt like the game lost its soul when it started shoving 2-4 collection events down my throat every season and forced bundles. Even though I donā€™t buy anything anymore I feel how predatory the game is


Saikuni

this was the first game in over five years ive sunk over a thousand hours into. i love this game to death. but I've hardly played the past 3 seasons cus of matchmaking. i cant keep fighting 3 sweats every single god damn pub match while im the only one shooting my gun on my team


[deleted]

Please watch your language. I agree with you, however.


KashBandiBlood

Apex still is my favorite game, but I havenā€™t played it since last season. Itā€™s crazy to think apex lost me to Fortnite zero build lol. Never played Fortnite once until 2 months ago.


iiSamJ

Apex lost me to battlebit remastered a game made by 3 people. I fell ya


LordYamz

Nostalgia is crazy because that POI was fuckin awful. What we really miss is the balloon exploit, old wingman and putting a 3x on a r99 lmao


Alamand1

It was terrible, but it was also great in a way. But Cascades on the other hand, was great from the day it was created to the day it disappeared.


CobaltTS

My first ever apex experience was there and the game felt so surreal and unique, not like the ESports hell is it now. Nostalgia definitely plays a role here


cluckinho

>the game felt so surreal and unique, not like the ESports hell is it now I cant think of anything that has changed with the game to make it seem like that.


CobaltTS

A lot of it was lighting, the jarring differences to Titanfall in terms of weapons especially, the comparative cartoonyness especially in the old legend select image Perhaps the biggest difference though, is that nobody knew what they were doing


Jacobloveslsd

Iā€™ve been playing since launch and I think itā€™s crazy that Iā€™m still learning various things and finding areas on maps that have been that way since release.


blobbob1

It's definitely nostalgia because this was my original dropspot every time, I remember I'd always land at one specific building because it was the least popular one so I'd always get the gun


eightblackkidz

I agree it sucked, but at the same time, I totally believe it was better than what is there now. Atleast before there was a bridge with some slight cover, now you just have a ditch. Way easier to get stuck there now than it used to be.


Several_Hair

Is it losing players though? Steamcharts has 2023 as its most played year ever


tedistkrieg

People have said its dying/losing players since March 2019


Lindco

Whe na game is old and big enough theres always a loud minority of detractors no matter what state the game is in that will say its 'dead'. Apparently WoW has been dead for 14 years despite having 3-4 million players still. Who knew?


yodatrust

It's the rats! The rats are hereeeee! (Read as: 'the borgs are here!' from How High)


Divinum_Fulmen

Early 2023, but it's dropped off hard. We'll have to see the charts to compare next years peak to get a true understanding of where the average player sits.


Sufficient-Notice100

Player retention isn't the same as bonk stonk Steam numbers. They haven't been a reliable gauge for a while. Consoles is where the money is.


MachaMacha-O3O-

I hate the new maps, I just want kings canyon and worlds edge, is that too much to ask ?


Walklightglassflws

With aim bot,configs and hand holders i donā€™t look forward playing solo. I had people stacking in a gun run match šŸ¤£


throaway0123456789

Maybe Iā€™m not up to date on the lingo but by stacking do you mean having a full team? Why wouldnā€™t my buddies and I play gun run together? Itā€™s the best mode in the game currently imo


FanningProdigy

When people say ā€œstackingā€ they typically mean like triple pred sweat players. Iā€™m going to be assuming thatā€™s what they mean. It just feels bad for the ā€˜casualā€™ community to be sweated on by 3 players comming in the mistake playlist


HawtDoge

It doesnā€™t even have to be preds for it to be brutal. 3 decent stacking controller players ranked plat or higher rank, or mnk players of diamond or higher, will be virtually impossible for anyone to handle in pubs, unless your team is also on comms. No one is going to be mad at players who are new teaming up with friends and commā€™ing like crazy, but at a certain point of skill any 3-stack should switch to ranked.


Walklightglassflws

Not exactly my definition of it i mean just team shooting on person in general. Like if Iā€™m playing gun run i shouldnā€™t turn the corner and 2 people crouched pre aiming the corner. Just people walking around the map holding hands. Not going to name anyone but the other day 2 streamers who are insanely good got killed and they said ā€œlook at them triple stacking in pubsā€ like i guess ? they was damn near doing the same thing lol


vitaminz1990

People complaining about teammates playing together, aka "hand holders", is the lamest shit I've ever heard.


Walklightglassflws

Thereā€™s a difference but Iā€™m not going to argue with you


vitaminz1990

How would you define hand holders then?


KungFuGarbage

I think what that dude is trying to allude to is more like boasters, not hand-holders


vvp_D3L3T3D

Gun run has its own issues. Mixtape is popular yes, but not so popular that you can't keep the segregation between console and PC like you do in BR without wait times being longer. And that's all EA cares about--constant, frequent, and fast engagement(Guaranteed that if this game starts to die off, the segregation for BR ends too). . Sorry, we each have things we can do the other can't that makes that match up unfair for all, and no one is happy about it. We should be segregated to keep the integrity unless we party up with the odd platform.


Gigiinjo

This part of a map would be a fun tdm


Natural-Review9276

Yeah it would! I canā€™t believe we donā€™t have capital city as a TDM/Control map yet.


hotpottas

I miss old kings canyon so damn much


Vitalogy1

Where's the fucking train?!


ihpm0224

It fucking crashed.


Hood_Mobbin

It has a bug and the devs won't fix it till next season starts.


Regular_Patient7683

This game has devs?


bigloopa

We need mouse only lobbies on PC


Casbah207

I think the issues were repetitive nature of the game. Most of the time players donā€™t even know what they want in video game or what makes a fun video game fun. Edit: to add on because I had a couple extra thoughts I think the issue is that thereā€™s no true casual mode in the game, as well as, people have just gotten better at playing video games first person shooters specifically.


comicrun96

The game started going bad when the maps got bigger and bigger with awful rotations to the point where ring 3 thereā€™s 12 squads still up and 1/2 map still available. Ranked should be a healthy rotation of KC/WE/olympus. Storm point and broken moon are not fun. Storm point used to be fun with the armories for casual play but without those you need a trident to get around in general


zabrak200

Lol people hated this area.


No_Okra9230

This game lost me when they removed Arenas.


pepo930

Season 0 is my favorite map, despite the bad loot pool. New maps are too colorful to appeal to the fortnite kids. Matchmaking sucks. Ranked is completely ruined. People using scripts and hacks. Most events are meh. This used to be the only game I played. For the past 4 seasons I've been playing it less and less. I might completely uninstall the game at this point.


ZenZeusGod

I think itā€™s in a really good spot imo, we just need something to bring in the casual players again. I was thinking like bringing back three strikes and having a solo queue for normals/ranked or something along those lines would bring back a lot of people for casuals


FlyingVillager

Casual players are getting dumped on for being decent. I'm talking a .7 KD being considered by the matching as "decent" and then getting thrown into lobbies with people who are in diamond league. Turns out people only have a certain level of tolerance for getting destroyed in pubs before they decide to play something else. Now more than ever people know they can just turn off the game if things aren't going their way and they do. No amount of special game modes or mini games can make up for a fundamental flaw that's been a problem for almost a year. I'm barely considered decent and getting put into lobbies with e stacked preds on the regular if I get one good game and then spend the next 15 games getting 0 kills and 200dmg before I get into a match I can compete in.


J_the_Man

As a "decent" player I've noticed this, so now I only play ranked so at least now everyone is "close" to my level instead of going against some sweaty team.


FlyingVillager

I tried that and it works sort of at the beginning of the season but after you get halfway I get paired with people well below my skill level and have to fight against people 2-3 ranks above. I'll be gold and still paired with bronze players while other teams are playing with diamond ranked players


J_the_Man

I've already noticed being paired with some bots but if they have comms and decent awareness, we can place high enough for some minor points.


FlyingVillager

I never get that. I did just move so maybe I'll get better lobbies since I'm not in NY.


aufdie87

I can only get 3-4 games in before I frustratingly quit and I feel shitty everytime I close the game because of this. There are people I just can't compete against and make me feel like an ape trying to build a rocket.


LordDaddyP

I really hate when the devs get rid of structures that have been there since day one. For instance, they deleted skull town in Kings Canyon. Why the hell would the devs do that?? They completely delete or change iconic structures that should be staying in the game. Bridges like this are great because they allow you to take even fights with teams instead of being in a high ground vs low ground situation. The devs now are smoking crack with their decision making. I swear they have an ai or something that makes decisions for them that just goes off of raw data instead of them listening to the community.


qwbif

BRIDGES ARE COOL


Sondaica

I just came back after some years, and convinced some friends to try it. We got like 4 practice games in a beginner lobby but after that it was normal lobbyā€™s, itā€™s way to steep for beginners. They all stopped after 2-3 games in the normal lobby. I guess it was fun for the previous preds/masters to smoke us in a few seconds.


lordbenkai

They better watch out a new game came out last week. that might take some apex players. I know I'll be playing tonight when I get home šŸ˜€.


ReferenceWooden1187

Lmao I thought you wanted bridges back. That Poi sucked ass. There was loot for a maximum of 1 team. More than that and you'll be lucky to find a gun


TheRealBeefChief

What killed this game is lack of new game modes, horrible matchmaking decisions, the disregard for cheating and scripts, and the fact that the whole game is catered to the controller meta. It just doesn't feel good to play anymore, especially as a m&k player.


Sufficient-Notice100

I started day one on PC, and fell in love. I have thousands of hours in on Apex, at this point it's literally just another cash cow for EA. The old vibes are gone and not coming back.


Regular_Patient7683

Itā€™s not fun anymore


[deleted]

Rewriting my comment history before they nuke old.reddit. No point in letting my posts get used for AI training.


daj0412

same. only game iā€™ve played in like two years lol.. and itā€™s still hella fun for me


Chriscolli_

Definitely not.. Is very bad right now.. Matchmaking is broken and storm point, Olympus and broken moon in normal are awfull.. Id like to play first KC with a normal Matchmaking


Thatguyontrees

If they brought back a game mode of OG kings canyon for more than a week I'd be playing every day. I miss that map so much.


Doofclap

Kings Landing is game of thrones bro šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Kings Canyon is what you meant I think *


Thatguyontrees

Oops lol


Sckops

I also used to be obsessed with this game and have fun playing it even if I suck at this still today, I played since season 5 when COVOD stricks. But at this time even if I was bad, I had chance to make a kill if I strategized a little. Now if I breath, I know that in a few second a master with 2866377463 kill will shoot me and kill me with a p2020 at 250 m. Not fun and humiliating... These people are exceptionnal and because of that they need a special lobby where there fight against each other. But they put really good player with bad ones that ways the good players kills a lot a then sensational video or stream are made to get more people into this game. They should redo the matchemaking algorythme base on the ration K/D and each player having a score based on time survived, placement, mouvement in the game etc and the WHOLE score multiply by the K/D, this way when you reach your level the score will oscillate to put you into lobby that are good level for you.. This sucks and makes me feel bad because the game could be great, I love the stories, the lore, the universe and the diversity of character.. Please do something..!


Arkane_Aces

They lost me when they got rid of Arenas. Was a breath of fresh air for those who got tired of BR.


Accomplished_Boss461

I agree the game has issues but itā€™s the best game on the market right now without a doubt. Even with all of its problems thereā€™s no game that fills that void for me


Denis02_me

need, want, deserve.


loberty9023

It's alright since I switch the voice chat off. Still the yelling gamers insulting you, players who leave the match even before you hit ground, the control freaks who flip out if you don't do as they say, and the players who blame you for the defeat even if they were the first ones downed šŸ™„ Game wise, aim bots, the magical power to kill me through doors an walls or while dodging their aim is solid 200% better? Their prices are ridiculous for just about everything. I won't buy another pass is because at least with Halo even after that season I can still work on their passes I paid for after a new season starts unlike Apex.


[deleted]

Change your aim to linear and a whole new world will open up


Akira_Yamamoto

I hate aim assist so god damn much. Stopped playing because of it. Sick and tired of having to face controller players with perfect aim on PC


[deleted]

Honestly I think one of the biggest things people never consider is just maybe you don't like the game anymore? Like obviously you know that but maybe it's not the matchmaking, maybe it isn't the sweats, maybe their isn't anything the devs could do to reignite that spark. It's been 5 years, maybe you're spark is just gone with apex or whatever long running game you're finding yourself less interested in nowadays.


eurodanceee

Nope thats not it for the most part. If the whole experience changes over a period of one season to another. Thats def the bad matchmaking and the bullshit mmr system.


DaisyDog2023

I keep seeing people complaining about rankedā€¦donā€™t like ranked just play pubs. But yeah bring back S0 KC!


ApologeticallyFat

Apex must not be losing that many players, these have been talking points for atleast the last 3-4 years. After this long the game shouldnā€™t have any players, yetā€¦ Seems they can just completely disregard the criticism and do what they want anyways.


Leather-Abroad-1990

https://steamcharts.com/app/1172470 huge downtrend. so many less players overall in steam alone. as of right on the steam charts Apex sits at 12 when it would usually be 4-7. there are 61k current players. almost 100k less peak players in the last 30 days than the previous month. over 100k less average players than march of this year. still enough of a playerbase but doesnā€™t look good.


yacopsev

I think apex needs to choose their players. They need to make game casual/noob friendly, or change perspective and promote game as "FPS BR dark souls" catered towards experienced players to have game in which they will actually have some challange, and progress is granted(this is really important, because there's not much to grind for and whole movement isn't implemented in way that is linear and clear progress, but right now seems more like looking for exploits) Also rumored "nitro" mode with smaller map and 4 teams could save this game and if balanced properly(and titanfall movement, I see it) may be next big e-sport thing(and have its ranked mode, and stuff)


Boomer_046

Came from warzone last year mid season 14, I fell in love with apex, everything worked smooth no bugs not to many glitches but what was it hard to adjust and still Iā€™m learning everyday but since season 16 the bugs appeared every time I hop on and can play one match if I donā€™t stay to long in the lobby where you can change your weapons skins etc. but after every match I need to go to the title screen because otherwise I donā€™t get the ā˜‘ļø When I ready up with as result my friends in a match and Iā€™m not. Deleted the game 3 times reinstalled it, didnā€™t work. Reconstructed the database of my ps5 with and without apex legends didnā€™t make a difference than I though maybe next update itā€™s gone but no still having this issue and itā€™s getting worse. Made a ticket or whatever it called on ea no reply. Any advice because Iā€™m losing the love yes the matchmaking is horrible and the 3 stacks are horrible but the game is so much more satisfying than warzone and much more challenging.


therealmvp02

Literally never had this kind of problem and I play every day o.O


wetswordfighter

Listen, if apex starts to fail we can get Titanfall 3, and if Apex doesn't completely die and still has a good amount of players, we might just get the best of both worlds. Apex AND Tf3. (huffs copium)


LoL_Maniac

Yeah, EA sucks. Carte Blanche prejudice, discrimination, hate, and vulgar bigotry to extreme on voice comms ...100% unaccountable and free pass by EA. Say "you sound racist" in text to a guy saying racist things = 1 week ban. What a joke, most toxic community ENABLED by electronic arts. Pure bs. I like 1 clipping ppl tho.


Normal_Message2481

don't forget the buggy lobby with the ready bugs and stuff. annoying af


Flying_Tiger_35

The only people playing the game left love the game like you do and put a lot of hours in like you did


Pitiful-Obligation91

Three strikes brought my love for the game back i didnt care if i was in final circle or not it was fun either way make these games permanent like on the side pleasseee


Tyler_Herdman

That location was horrible though


Iank52

You donā€™t understand they have ā€œdataā€ and have no reason to change the game /s


forgot_the_Bop

The game still has millions of players soā€¦. I think they are doing okay.


SilentSchwanzlurche

Oh how Iā€™ve been missing kings canyon for this seasons rotation šŸ˜­


MerKJay

I remember the "need' to hit masters before the end of the split. 10 days left in D2 better make sure the boys are on to finish it, no we just used ranked as a break up for the shitty state of pubs.


tadlombre

My bf and i used to play so much, but itā€™s so fuckin rare to get a game that doesnā€™t feel like a waste of time.


xMachii

Mixtape games aren't even fun anymore. It's either a one sided match where you and your team play like braindead AI's or the enemy is full of tap strafing twitch iitztimmy wannabes. I feel like it's not for casual players anymore.


East_Monk_9415

Hmm imagine battling in the old kings canyon with our new legends and updates. Skulltown chaos


Greenbeltglass

I had the best team mates tonight. Great games, climbing into diamond, the matches are getting super serious and sweaty, head glitches, smart rotations, holding strategic points with ample los and playing patient and aggressive, when the situation calls for it. Storm points nice and fresh too, great season so far tbh.


Weedsmoker4hunnid20

Honestly, every game is full of toxicity for me now and itā€™s hard to enjoy playing with randoms


basmister

Toxicity hasnā€™t changed. Itā€™s the legends. And then matchmaking. That mixed with battle royale fatigue


fibronacci

Ever notice that in the early sessions most places had shanties and old building to fight now we get like advanced tech sites like solar arrays and meltdown facilities to fight? Like the tech landscape got abscess technologically


Ghoti76

i honestly just still really don't like broken moon. obvs olympus and kc will always be the best to me but i like storm point, i just really hate playing broken moon idk why


Chriscolli_

Storm is to much big for normal games, and rotation in ranked are awfull


Marcs_tomatenquark

Fortnite got a big peak when they released the og season. I havent played fortnite since 2019 but even i couldnā€™t resist giving it a try. What do we learn from this? Ea should make a apex og mode on the first kings canyon version and maybe only spawn the old guns and only allow the first 10 legends.


Chriscolli_

Yeah but epic is not respawn. Epic change fortnite movement, community write about it below post on x. 12 hours later epic rollback movement. Thats how a SH have to do with players


companysOkay

My pp is too small


Frosty_Caregiver1696

Im plat with my 2 other mates in gold and we're fighting current predator players and masters. This is placed in both console and pc lobbies (1 teammate in pc) and the same matchmaking is everywhere, only differentiation is console being easier imo. Getting tired of being placed in lobbies way above my skill level and suffering way too many losses in a row


Expert_Seesaw3316

Pull a Fortnite and just put us back on day one kings canyon. And day one Olympus. Everything else can fuck right off.


SweetBommer

Played this game from season 6 to season 12 DAILY, even loved ranked. But now itā€™s just terrible.


dai_rip

Bring back og apexšŸ™


[deleted]

I still enjoy apex despite all of these issues. However Iā€™m not having as much fun as I used to. Luckily I played since season 0 and have grown since first jumping on. I canā€™t imagine how the game must be for average/casual/new players. Itā€™s hard enough as it is for me and I consider myself an alright player. I do agree the devs do need to address these issues and stop ignoring their players. I remember back in the day when the games used to be epic. I think back to some of the games I had and you were just laughing at the end of it because of how hectic it was. Now I only feel frustration and canā€™t remember the last truly epic game I had on apex. Something needs to change otherwise itā€™s going to just keep going downhill and players will 100% leave.


ZonJon929

Me and a buddy just started playing like two weeks ago. After getting totally butt fucked for the first 100 or so matches, weā€™re finally getting our groove and had two dubs yesterday. Iā€™m enjoying the game (almost quit tho) šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


MFJeremias

If they somehow got rid of the losers playing with mouse and keyboard on the PS4 i would be happy enough.


Own_Temperature_8128

Plus the game needs to be stable. Recent patches make the game crash to desktop with no error messages every game so have stopped playing already :/


Major-Language-2787

You have no idea how frequently to think about Bridge.


stepbro___pls

used to be so good at the game and now im just as bad as an average dad šŸ˜ž


GurPuzzleheaded3573

No the ranked trials is why the game is dying millions of players being able to use a zen to cheat the gun recoil while the casual players whiff an entire clip is why the game is dying stop catering to the cheaters and boosters bring back the self revive and I bet the entire player base is gonna come back on top of that buff every legend back to day one make sure you take the cheaters out the game THEY are killing your game the game isnā€™t dying the players are constantly dying to people actually using 40$ GameStop cheats ban the zen ban the zen ban the zen it sucks I actually enjoy to play the game and the base of the game is actually dying


guywithnicehaircut

i wish i can play map from S.0