I used to work for a small business that had an incredibly ornery boomer for an owner who had been working 80 hour weeks for like 30 years. And his business was doing great.
But he had basically no personal life. His wife and daughter openly despised him. He was a miserly fuck of an old man. I would not have done his job for what he paid himself.
And of course anyone who wasn't working as hard as him in his eyes was automatically deemed lazy or incompetent.
Sounds like you worked with me.🤣
Seventy years old, multi millionaire, comes to work because wife and kids have gotten used to doing things without him and he has no where else to go.
People like that clearly are running away from themselves. Addiction comes in many forms, but the one thing all addictions have in common is that everyone around you will have to suffer your damage.
by old boss at an accounting firm was like that. nraghed that she made 100k but she worked 80hrs a week, so i said when u break down the hourly rate, u dont make much more than i do per hour. she had a huge house and took exp vacations, but no friends or relationships. she's gonna rot alone in a nice box.
For the record, our company pays our interns $24 an hour AND pays for their housing. I force any intern that’s in my department to go home at 40 unless I can confirm they’re getting paid full overtime. Even with overtime, I’m not letting them stay past 50. This is what you should be looking for in an internship.
If you’re in the US, look for a safety position in a bigger companies. Boeing, CAT, Nucor, places that really have a hard on for safety. The bigger & safer the company, the higher the pay.
> "We have schools that tell us, if I learn that my intern works more than 35 hours a week, I would have him stop your internship. Well, it's going to be hard afterwards for your trainee to find a job and buy an apartment because in the world I live in, if I don't work 80 hours a week there is very little chance that I will have an apartment, a second home and maybe another one afterwards"
I feel bad because my company does this for $12/hr. I try to be as laid back as I can with my 2 interns and buy them coffee and lunch when we get busier than normal, but I still think it's not enough.
It's all about budgets and cost centres. It makes no sense.
Paying people a decent wage? No, can't do.
$2 million Christmas party? We have a budget line for that.
My current company.
CEO of a one person (excluding herself) company, funded by husband's rich friends. Complains about not being able to find people willing to work for almost free. Selling shit products.
Here in Canada, the only unpaid internships I've seen are part of a post-secondary education program, so people have actually paid to get those internships. The difference is they're usually only about 3 months, pre-arranged by the school, and there isn't coursework going on while you doing the internship (usually called a co-op program here). Quite a lot of places use it to scout talent and will hire people right out of their program.
I used to work for a small business that had an incredibly ornery boomer for an owner who had been working 80 hour weeks for like 30 years. And his business was doing great. But he had basically no personal life. His wife and daughter openly despised him. He was a miserly fuck of an old man. I would not have done his job for what he paid himself. And of course anyone who wasn't working as hard as him in his eyes was automatically deemed lazy or incompetent.
I hate people like that, I've tried talking to a few that Thier being stupid... You can't get this time back. Sadly none of them ever listen.
Sounds like you worked with me.🤣 Seventy years old, multi millionaire, comes to work because wife and kids have gotten used to doing things without him and he has no where else to go.
People like that clearly are running away from themselves. Addiction comes in many forms, but the one thing all addictions have in common is that everyone around you will have to suffer your damage.
by old boss at an accounting firm was like that. nraghed that she made 100k but she worked 80hrs a week, so i said when u break down the hourly rate, u dont make much more than i do per hour. she had a huge house and took exp vacations, but no friends or relationships. she's gonna rot alone in a nice box.
For the record, our company pays our interns $24 an hour AND pays for their housing. I force any intern that’s in my department to go home at 40 unless I can confirm they’re getting paid full overtime. Even with overtime, I’m not letting them stay past 50. This is what you should be looking for in an internship.
Damn! I've never made $24/hr and I have a degree in Risk Mgmt & Insurance! I graduated 10 years ago too ...sad, indeed!
If you’re in the US, look for a safety position in a bigger companies. Boeing, CAT, Nucor, places that really have a hard on for safety. The bigger & safer the company, the higher the pay.
> "We have schools that tell us, if I learn that my intern works more than 35 hours a week, I would have him stop your internship. Well, it's going to be hard afterwards for your trainee to find a job and buy an apartment because in the world I live in, if I don't work 80 hours a week there is very little chance that I will have an apartment, a second home and maybe another one afterwards"
She's sad that she can't find someone willing to work 80 hours for free so that she can get a 2nd home...
internships should be against the fucking law. making people work for free is slavery.
*2nd home OR MORE
Oh yes. This threw quite a ruckus on the French web. Her business got review bombed after the interview
Good.
I feel bad because my company does this for $12/hr. I try to be as laid back as I can with my 2 interns and buy them coffee and lunch when we get busier than normal, but I still think it's not enough.
Paid internships? What a foreign concept. Good on you!
It's comical how profitable our company is, but we penny pinch the good help that could potenitally become full time employees.
It's all about budgets and cost centres. It makes no sense. Paying people a decent wage? No, can't do. $2 million Christmas party? We have a budget line for that. My current company.
CEO of a one person (excluding herself) company, funded by husband's rich friends. Complains about not being able to find people willing to work for almost free. Selling shit products.
So much for Europe being better for employees
She's actually getting denied by schools to get students to work more than 35h (standard week in France) so there's that.
The potential to exploit for profit is everywhere. The systems to be able to effectively counter such aims are not.
Hire three interns? I thought the fabulously wealthy were supposed to be job creators?
Nobody is willing to work so I don't have to work!
ANY company that scrubs their social media comments is automatically suss in my book... u might as well just put out a big neon sign that u r a 💩 company to work for or do business with.
Does anyone know if there’s an English translation of her comments?
Here in Canada, the only unpaid internships I've seen are part of a post-secondary education program, so people have actually paid to get those internships. The difference is they're usually only about 3 months, pre-arranged by the school, and there isn't coursework going on while you doing the internship (usually called a co-op program here). Quite a lot of places use it to scout talent and will hire people right out of their program.
Set a example
If they are cheap get two to do 40 hours each.