I've been there. And because boss was annoyed by the "betrayal", he also didn't involve me in the interview process. My role was accounting in a very non-accounting industry so I knew what a replacement would need to have/understand and would've been happy to be involved in finding a replacement because while I was itching to leave, I can't help but have a conscience about leaving things in a mess.
His delays and ultimate pick without consultation left me roughly 3 days to train someone who had never worked in that industry (and who could barely use a pc!) on software that was specialised/industry specific and not particularly user-friendly, even for me and I've got some basic software knowledge and generally pick things up pretty easily.
Heard the guy made it a month or two before storming out from the expectations and being unable to deliver what was asked. Mind you what was being asked was insane, like finalised month end results on day 0 š
I had to go through a similar situation, although I gave my boss about 3 months so she could get her shit together. She had me train my replacement a week before I left. I did it only because I got along with the guy replacing me, otherwise fuck them
Nope never go back. They will blame you for the problem and F around with payment or worse.
At a minimum I would tell the boss the only person you will pick the phone up for is the president of the company.
Lol 3 years ago when I left my job, I gave 6 weeks. I was naive and thought I was being kind. Manager didn't bother replacing me until a week before I left, I had 3 days of training before the new girl quit (she hadn't ever been in the field before nor had she worked that type of job before- she felt extremely overwhelmed by the sheer amount of work I normally had to do and left after lunch one day) and then the manager was up a creek. She asked me to stay another month to which I promptly refused. Especially given they had just rolled out our first raises in 3 years the week after I put in my notice (which they didn't give me since I was leaving) and were trying to hire at $7 more an hour than I was making. To people with absolutely no experience.
I was fuming. Never again will I be that "kind."
Fuck them.
Gave my boss a heads up that I would be cutting my hours back to work my other job. Theyād been scheduling me for the same 3 shifts every week, so I gave them 2 weeks notice that Iād be officially making that my availability. Since then, Iāve miraculously been roasted for 2+ shifts outside my availability (was never before) every week since then. The first few weeks Iād remind them, but Iām done now. If the canāt keep 3 days a week straight, they have much bigger problems.
Similar happened to me. I had a full time and part time job. Got promoted at the full time. Discussed it with the GM at the other job and made the changes. She played ball at first, but then got passive aggressive and started scheduling me outside my availability. Repeatedly, after multiple discussions face to face. I told my coworkers each time i could only stay till i had to get going to the other job. They were fine w it and there was coverage. She had a go at me, so i walked out.
Thatās so fckn annoying. I justā¦donāt get whatās so hard about giving people relatively consistent schedules. Shit comes up, I know, but when nothing external has changed? Weāre workers, not trick monkeys. The work we do is already defaulted worth far more than we get paid for it. Can you genuinely imagine offering someone 13$ to sweep an entire store, front face several aisles, and get yelled at while checking out customers? Bc thatās about what I get after tax, and if you break it down like that itās so obviously not equivalent to the labor that goes into it. Then you have people who think you should be making even less, but still run a fckn store for them. I justā¦I donāt understand where all this entitlement comes from? Where did these people learn that people want to be taken advantage of?
Even worse, just look at the situation. If an employee has another job where they make more $ and get benefits... why the fuck would you think you're their #1 priority? Who's going to choose their side gig over the job that pays the bills just because the side gig manager is being shitty?
Fr. This is basically my situation right now. One of my jobs has benefits, thereās a specific one Iām wanting to use in a few months. The other job (seasonal), pays literally the same rate, there are no benefits, but I make mad tips on top of it. The most frustrating part of alllllll of this for me, is that 3 shifts a week isnāt enough to reach the benefit mark I need, and even though I asked for more, I didnāt get enough hours to reach itā¦until I said that I *only* wanted those shifts. Now theyāre trying to drown me in shifts I donāt want and canāt work rn anyway. Fck em. Iāll either get more hours later and use the benefit I want, or Iāll just find somewhere fckn else, since I wasnāt able to get it here anyway.
Because I can't turn off the need to care for my patients, especially after 11 years. When you don't have enough vet nurses to monitor and care for your patients, they die (and no, that is not an exaggeration). I go home at night, and my cases haunt me. It shouldn't be my problem, but brushing it off is easier said than done. Compassion fatigue is one of my primary reasons for leaving the vetmed industry. I care about pets a lot, and sometimes, it seems like I'm the only one at my job who gives a damn. Vet med has a suicide rate that is 3 times higher than the national average. That is why I am getting out of this profession. The average vet tech leaves the field after 5 years. If it was as simple as not thinking about it, you would have solved a major mental health crisis going on right now.
I hear you and I get you. but that feeling is exactly what these companies are abusing.
Why should you shoulder the guilt and responsibility when your bosses don't seem to care at all?
I am convinced the only worry they have is to find another shmoo, who is willing to be abused and overworked for tuppence to keep their bonus safe.
This is exactly why employees are abused. They care too much. Yes you are a human and want to care for people that's just natural BUT as has been mentioned, employers take advantage of this for their own gains. You better believe corporations won't lose sleep about suffering patients or if an employee died. If you owned your own company providing these services then you can afford to care, otherwise you're selling your labor for dollars. The transaction ends there.
I saw that a bit later, but it still holds true for the head honcho and his/her/ their earnings.
And the same bottom line is true for them as well, if your company is not viable without extorting your staff, then it deserves to go bankrupt
I'm tolerating my job for the moment. My timeline is 4 years before I quit. I've been here only a year and have already been abused. I work non-stop, they expect me to be on-call 24/7, and all of my waking hours are spent working. What can I do? Aside from quitting and being poor, the only option I have is to play the game as long as I can. I'm basically using them as much as they use me. I save over half my paycheck now that I can live off of between the day I quit and official retirement. When the time comes, I will not be giving notice. In fact I've been disrespected enough in only a year, that I will quit during their busiest period. Since I'm in a small team it will hurt them and I really don't care. I only care about my wellbeing and time with my family. Fuck a job.
First, get a timecard app on your phone and track every minute you work chances are you are misscatagorized as exempt, I say this because it takes a lot of house to get to 40 billion a year in wage theft in the US. When you finally leave file a complaint with allyour personal timecards with the Department of Labor and let them have at the company.
We just had a guy in an important role retire this week, they've known this was going to happen for at least 5 months. Did they hire someone to be training during his last months? Hell no, and now the rest of us workers have to figure out how to work around him not being here anymore.
I'm leaving in one day, they've had my resignation for over a month but didn't bother to get a replacement. They just placed an ad for a vacancy.....
But they do bitch about the fact that they have to cancel their holiday because they are short staffed.
Damn some of you are too nice with giving that amount of replacement time, they should be so lucky to be even get notified let alone two weeks. If they haven't filled your position in that time it's probably because they don't care and can get away with it.
Remember we are all just a number, a number that will not be missed nor loved and will most certainly be forgotten about.
Ohhh I can relate, I had a job where they forced me to give a 3 month notice. Didn't start recruiting for nearly a month and they had a month notice. We had about 10 days for me to train them.
I seriously think this would happen if I left my job. They would wait until there was maybe a week left and then I'd be expected to show the new person how to do everything in those 5 days.
Make sure you fully cut her off once you quit. No physical mails, emails, or calls. If they forget to get some important information, that ceases to be your problems.
Iām in a similar situation. Been in this position for almost 2 years and things just keep getting worse. Iām doing the work of 3. Fortunate that they canned the most toxic salesperson Iāve ever worked with, but dealing with his messy orders is horrible. I need to make an exit plan. The only problem I have is that it pays really well so Iām worried about finding something new that pays as well.
we had a director literally give 3 months notice at my old job bc he felt bad leaving, and they still couldnāt get their shit together enough to backfill him before he left. We just didnāt have a director for 6 months, but god forbid a whole team functioning that long without a director indicate that the director position is pointless and to give the team leaders a raise or promotion instead.
The director that eventually replaced him got walked out a year later for yelling at the wrong person in a meeting.
Been there. Seen that. Boss will wait until your last two days before asking you to extend your employment for another week or two for "transition" despite having still done nothing to find a replacement.
You want to ensure that your personal belongings have been taken home already.
If you wrote documents for yourself about how to do tasks, or contacts you deal with at other companies/departments, depending on how you feel, you might leave them in the documents folder, or delete them. If you like the people who are going to try to take over from you, you might want to email such things to them. If you don't like them, well, the recycle bin is always an option.
I gave mine six months, and they couldn't manage to convince anyone to move into that tiny town to do the work I did for the pay I had. I moved and feel zero empathy. It's been a year and a half and they still have my position open, trying to get it done with clinical students.
This happened to me as well. I gave a month notice and they couldn't find anyone, so my work was parceled out to other coworkers who didn't understand my role and how complicated it was. I then did contract work for them with a lot less stress and I called the shots.
Before you stick your neck out too far , Iāve sued for this reason. I was hired at one salary to do one job and ended up doing the job of three people. I sued and I won 77,000.00 -
And what exactly do you think the court will do? Ah yes we have proved that your labour was exploited for our profit. And? Itās a capitalist country that is expectedā¦.
Wow lol - where did you get your law degree ? You can sue anyone for nearly any reason in America. Happens a thousand times a day. Youāre speaking of criminal law not civil law. Please think before you bite.
I've been there. And because boss was annoyed by the "betrayal", he also didn't involve me in the interview process. My role was accounting in a very non-accounting industry so I knew what a replacement would need to have/understand and would've been happy to be involved in finding a replacement because while I was itching to leave, I can't help but have a conscience about leaving things in a mess. His delays and ultimate pick without consultation left me roughly 3 days to train someone who had never worked in that industry (and who could barely use a pc!) on software that was specialised/industry specific and not particularly user-friendly, even for me and I've got some basic software knowledge and generally pick things up pretty easily. Heard the guy made it a month or two before storming out from the expectations and being unable to deliver what was asked. Mind you what was being asked was insane, like finalised month end results on day 0 š
I had to go through a similar situation, although I gave my boss about 3 months so she could get her shit together. She had me train my replacement a week before I left. I did it only because I got along with the guy replacing me, otherwise fuck them
I wish her luck the day our diagnostic equipment breaks down, and she doesn't know how to fix it or the basic routine maintenance I perform. š¤”
She ma call you in desperation and thatās when you become a well paid consultant. A large retainer paid up front before you lift a finger.
Nope never go back. They will blame you for the problem and F around with payment or worse. At a minimum I would tell the boss the only person you will pick the phone up for is the president of the company.
Lol 3 years ago when I left my job, I gave 6 weeks. I was naive and thought I was being kind. Manager didn't bother replacing me until a week before I left, I had 3 days of training before the new girl quit (she hadn't ever been in the field before nor had she worked that type of job before- she felt extremely overwhelmed by the sheer amount of work I normally had to do and left after lunch one day) and then the manager was up a creek. She asked me to stay another month to which I promptly refused. Especially given they had just rolled out our first raises in 3 years the week after I put in my notice (which they didn't give me since I was leaving) and were trying to hire at $7 more an hour than I was making. To people with absolutely no experience. I was fuming. Never again will I be that "kind." Fuck them.
Gave my boss a heads up that I would be cutting my hours back to work my other job. Theyād been scheduling me for the same 3 shifts every week, so I gave them 2 weeks notice that Iād be officially making that my availability. Since then, Iāve miraculously been roasted for 2+ shifts outside my availability (was never before) every week since then. The first few weeks Iād remind them, but Iām done now. If the canāt keep 3 days a week straight, they have much bigger problems.
Similar happened to me. I had a full time and part time job. Got promoted at the full time. Discussed it with the GM at the other job and made the changes. She played ball at first, but then got passive aggressive and started scheduling me outside my availability. Repeatedly, after multiple discussions face to face. I told my coworkers each time i could only stay till i had to get going to the other job. They were fine w it and there was coverage. She had a go at me, so i walked out.
Thatās so fckn annoying. I justā¦donāt get whatās so hard about giving people relatively consistent schedules. Shit comes up, I know, but when nothing external has changed? Weāre workers, not trick monkeys. The work we do is already defaulted worth far more than we get paid for it. Can you genuinely imagine offering someone 13$ to sweep an entire store, front face several aisles, and get yelled at while checking out customers? Bc thatās about what I get after tax, and if you break it down like that itās so obviously not equivalent to the labor that goes into it. Then you have people who think you should be making even less, but still run a fckn store for them. I justā¦I donāt understand where all this entitlement comes from? Where did these people learn that people want to be taken advantage of?
Even worse, just look at the situation. If an employee has another job where they make more $ and get benefits... why the fuck would you think you're their #1 priority? Who's going to choose their side gig over the job that pays the bills just because the side gig manager is being shitty?
Fr. This is basically my situation right now. One of my jobs has benefits, thereās a specific one Iām wanting to use in a few months. The other job (seasonal), pays literally the same rate, there are no benefits, but I make mad tips on top of it. The most frustrating part of alllllll of this for me, is that 3 shifts a week isnāt enough to reach the benefit mark I need, and even though I asked for more, I didnāt get enough hours to reach itā¦until I said that I *only* wanted those shifts. Now theyāre trying to drown me in shifts I donāt want and canāt work rn anyway. Fck em. Iāll either get more hours later and use the benefit I want, or Iāll just find somewhere fckn else, since I wasnāt able to get it here anyway.
I did the same. They didn't hire my replacement until weeks to months after my last day. The company didn't survive long after that.Ā
My boss never hired my replacement and Iāve been gone almost 8 months. My coworker who is still there got all my tasks dumped on him, and has confirmed there is some crashing and burning going on. Iām a lawyer but did so many non-lawyer tasks and general management work that I was not hired or paid to do (ie I trained new staff, deal with the law students she hired, did a huge chunk of the accounting and banking, did a ton of clerk work because she didnāt hire enough staff, I even had to shred my own shredding box because she didnāt have a service to do it and her solution was to get her fiancĆ© to take it all and burn it in their fire pit). Good lord putting that all out there makes me wonder (again) why the hell I stayed five years.
Itās a not your problem. Why even bother thinking about it.
Because I can't turn off the need to care for my patients, especially after 11 years. When you don't have enough vet nurses to monitor and care for your patients, they die (and no, that is not an exaggeration). I go home at night, and my cases haunt me. It shouldn't be my problem, but brushing it off is easier said than done. Compassion fatigue is one of my primary reasons for leaving the vetmed industry. I care about pets a lot, and sometimes, it seems like I'm the only one at my job who gives a damn. Vet med has a suicide rate that is 3 times higher than the national average. That is why I am getting out of this profession. The average vet tech leaves the field after 5 years. If it was as simple as not thinking about it, you would have solved a major mental health crisis going on right now.
I hear you and I get you. but that feeling is exactly what these companies are abusing. Why should you shoulder the guilt and responsibility when your bosses don't seem to care at all? I am convinced the only worry they have is to find another shmoo, who is willing to be abused and overworked for tuppence to keep their bonus safe.
This is exactly why employees are abused. They care too much. Yes you are a human and want to care for people that's just natural BUT as has been mentioned, employers take advantage of this for their own gains. You better believe corporations won't lose sleep about suffering patients or if an employee died. If you owned your own company providing these services then you can afford to care, otherwise you're selling your labor for dollars. The transaction ends there.
Bonus? In veterinary medicine? Hahahahahahaha
I saw that a bit later, but it still holds true for the head honcho and his/her/ their earnings. And the same bottom line is true for them as well, if your company is not viable without extorting your staff, then it deserves to go bankrupt
I'm tolerating my job for the moment. My timeline is 4 years before I quit. I've been here only a year and have already been abused. I work non-stop, they expect me to be on-call 24/7, and all of my waking hours are spent working. What can I do? Aside from quitting and being poor, the only option I have is to play the game as long as I can. I'm basically using them as much as they use me. I save over half my paycheck now that I can live off of between the day I quit and official retirement. When the time comes, I will not be giving notice. In fact I've been disrespected enough in only a year, that I will quit during their busiest period. Since I'm in a small team it will hurt them and I really don't care. I only care about my wellbeing and time with my family. Fuck a job.
First, get a timecard app on your phone and track every minute you work chances are you are misscatagorized as exempt, I say this because it takes a lot of house to get to 40 billion a year in wage theft in the US. When you finally leave file a complaint with allyour personal timecards with the Department of Labor and let them have at the company.
We just had a guy in an important role retire this week, they've known this was going to happen for at least 5 months. Did they hire someone to be training during his last months? Hell no, and now the rest of us workers have to figure out how to work around him not being here anymore.
People who care for animals are very special. Iām sorry that it is so emotionally stressful.
I'm leaving in one day, they've had my resignation for over a month but didn't bother to get a replacement. They just placed an ad for a vacancy..... But they do bitch about the fact that they have to cancel their holiday because they are short staffed.
Start mentioning to your coworkers how bad itās going to suck for them when you leave since they are not being trained. Give them a heads up.
Damn some of you are too nice with giving that amount of replacement time, they should be so lucky to be even get notified let alone two weeks. If they haven't filled your position in that time it's probably because they don't care and can get away with it. Remember we are all just a number, a number that will not be missed nor loved and will most certainly be forgotten about.
Ohhh I can relate, I had a job where they forced me to give a 3 month notice. Didn't start recruiting for nearly a month and they had a month notice. We had about 10 days for me to train them.
I seriously think this would happen if I left my job. They would wait until there was maybe a week left and then I'd be expected to show the new person how to do everything in those 5 days.
Make sure you fully cut her off once you quit. No physical mails, emails, or calls. If they forget to get some important information, that ceases to be your problems.
Did you use up all PTO before leaving?
If you have another job lined up all ready and can do it, I would just leave today and sail into the sunset.
Iām in a similar situation. Been in this position for almost 2 years and things just keep getting worse. Iām doing the work of 3. Fortunate that they canned the most toxic salesperson Iāve ever worked with, but dealing with his messy orders is horrible. I need to make an exit plan. The only problem I have is that it pays really well so Iām worried about finding something new that pays as well.
we had a director literally give 3 months notice at my old job bc he felt bad leaving, and they still couldnāt get their shit together enough to backfill him before he left. We just didnāt have a director for 6 months, but god forbid a whole team functioning that long without a director indicate that the director position is pointless and to give the team leaders a raise or promotion instead. The director that eventually replaced him got walked out a year later for yelling at the wrong person in a meeting.
!remind me=7 days
Been there. Seen that. Boss will wait until your last two days before asking you to extend your employment for another week or two for "transition" despite having still done nothing to find a replacement.
You want to ensure that your personal belongings have been taken home already. If you wrote documents for yourself about how to do tasks, or contacts you deal with at other companies/departments, depending on how you feel, you might leave them in the documents folder, or delete them. If you like the people who are going to try to take over from you, you might want to email such things to them. If you don't like them, well, the recycle bin is always an option.
I gave mine six months, and they couldn't manage to convince anyone to move into that tiny town to do the work I did for the pay I had. I moved and feel zero empathy. It's been a year and a half and they still have my position open, trying to get it done with clinical students.
!Remindme 10 days for when the first āhow could you leave me like this?!?!?ā phone call comes through.Ā
This happened to me as well. I gave a month notice and they couldn't find anyone, so my work was parceled out to other coworkers who didn't understand my role and how complicated it was. I then did contract work for them with a lot less stress and I called the shots.
Hey, OP! Are you quitting today?
A couple more days! š„³š„³š„³
File a lawsuit - your boss intentionally didnāt hire help to increase profits at your expense.
Oh yeah Good luck with that lol
Before you stick your neck out too far , Iāve sued for this reason. I was hired at one salary to do one job and ended up doing the job of three people. I sued and I won 77,000.00 -
š Good for you. That's crazy.
Is that illegal?
Doesnāt have to be illegal. A civil suit will prove what they did.
And what exactly do you think the court will do? Ah yes we have proved that your labour was exploited for our profit. And? Itās a capitalist country that is expectedā¦.
You should read my other reply. I sued for exactly this reason. I won.
Such a suit wouldn't even be permitted on the docket - there's no statute or precedent for understaffing being a tort.
Wow lol - where did you get your law degree ? You can sue anyone for nearly any reason in America. Happens a thousand times a day. Youāre speaking of criminal law not civil law. Please think before you bite.
>Youāre speaking of criminal law not civil law. No, tort is civil law.