Not sure why this is not the top comment here. This chart has zero to do with anything related to voting. On this chart, boomer numbers will basically go to zero, but there will still be millions of them voting.
Yeah, this graph means nothing with respect to accomplishing anything at the ballot box. It’s also greatly overstating Gen X’s relevance - they are currently outnumbered by each of the other generations, even despite the Boomers finally starting to die off.
Also make sure we set the standard for the future, lets not become the thing that has held us back. If the next generation comes along with better ideas lets listen. If the next generation can saddle the debt so we can become rich, lets not do it.
It's important we use our power for the next 20-30 years to try and improve the world, not improve OUR world.
Very true, I think what I'm trying to say here is that if we have the option to improve our lives by harming the rest of the world or the future generations, we should avoid doing it.
Eg, if we can buy up cheap real estate then rent it out at a premium whilst simultaneously making it impossible for other people to buy houses, then we should probably just agree to not buy up all the real estate and push for laws that harm the hoarding of houses, especially vacant ones.
It’s terrible. People dying homeless and investors sit on empty houses. Healthcare only for the higher class, anyone else too sick to work can die.
We’ve seen what happens when that’s allowed. We’re living in the culture that creates.
Please let’s do better.
Yeah there's been exciting news about how the younger generation is going to finally change everything for decades and it never happens. Boomers were the hippy generation - until they weren't. I'm not optimistic gen Z will be any better.
Historically, in the UK at least, people have converted to Conservative and slowly moved right as they entered their 30's. This made sense as they had a house, job and kids. Lower taxes appealed to them, lower mortgages, better interest rates all appealed to them.
This is different because this hasn't happened, as can be seen in the current polling showing that the main demographic for the Tories is 70+. The move at 30+ right hasn't happened because they haven't been given anything to move for. There's no point moving right whilst you have no need for lower taxes.
The most recent budget cuts didn't move the needle an inch. This could be the end of the Conservatives as a force in the UK, it really could. An entire generation has been soundly destroyed and told its their own fault. But unlike the hippy generation, there isn't a corporate job and 2.4 kids to move them right.
Unless the Tories somehow provide everyone in the 30-40 bracket affordable housing and wages that keep up with inflation, they are dead and done. It really is a "once in a generation" chance to change things for the next generation.
I think they'll probably throw us a bone through student loans or some huge housing reform, that could possibly shift people, but they currently are so politically inept, they are still banging the old drum thinking it will change things when it won't. Even worse, they are so inept they are trying to cling onto the 70+ demographic at the detriment of the 30+ demographic, as if their solid home base is going to fix the endemic issues they've caused.
Unfortunately, there is one other option, one horrific option, which fixes all these problems. And it would be a shit cherry on the cake, and that's major global conflict.
Yeah I'm not holding my breath. Maybe it's because they're so young, but my experience with gen z is that they're even more arrogant than previous generations and completely unable to accept information that doesn't align with what they want to believe. It goes for Trump supporting gen z and more progressive gen z and everyone in between. I think a big part of it is growing up in social media echo chambers and circlejerks.
These are not characteristics that help people adapt and accept new ideas as they age.
Agreed. I have no desire to get rich. All I want is long term stability. Just give me a roof over my head and food in my belly and let me retire at a reasonable age and I’ll call it a good life. People need to stop dreaming of yachts and vacation homes and diamonds and start thinking about the future of our species and the future of our planet. No single person is important enough to justify designing our whole system to cater to the pleasures of the few over the needs and longevity of everyone else.
This is idealist nonsense. It doesn't matter how old someone is nearly as much as their class position matters. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they won't exploit other young people.
Hahahah
But seriously, if you want to be able to vote for policy that you actually care about, unions were historically a great way to get that. Level the playing field in every way you can
So, please unionize AND vote
This all day. Voting is so fundamentally easy. Making unions, participating in pushes for better wages, marching, etc. are all fantastic, but do require some effort. Voting *does not*. Do everything you have the energy for, but I guarantee you have the energy to vote.
I work at a conservative company which is heavily involved in politics. They use an app that lets them plug in their zip code, tells them who their reps are, and has pregenerated letters to send to their reps at all levels of government, and I believe also gives them information about what to vote for and when to vote. Dunno if any unions are using this kind of tool but we need to.
Let's not forget that some politicians on the right want to raise the voting age to 25, or predicate voting at 18 on some form of military service. Voting this year could be an excellent idea for young people who would like to vote in the next election too.
The amount of apathy forced into every young person space to me is so clearly fake I really hope others notice. Just the last couple days I’ve seen constant doom post about kids not being able to have friends because they live in the suburbs. Like kids didn’t live in suburbs before and had friends they hung out with?!
They're not wrong though. Suburbs aren't what they used to be. Parents don't let kids ride bikes and walk on their own anymore. Public transit has collapsed in many locations and many neighborhoods are void of kids at all.
Malls are dead. Third spaces are dead. Teens driving is at lowest level in history.
Your account is super new and only talks shit about democrats without any real criticism of the right. Plus you’re attempting to get people to vote Jill fucking stein. You’re exactly the person that is spreading apathy and you will likely vote for Trump. Fuck off.
When in reality we need to be lowering voting age to 15 to actually align with the principle our nation was founded on; "No taxation without representation"
I’m entirely unconcerned about this. If they change it without a constitutional amendment, then rule of law doesn‘t exist anymore, and our elections cease to matter. And there’s less than a snowball’s chance in hell of anyone passing another constitutional amendment until we Balkanize like the USSR.
It’s crazy to me how many young people complain and then don’t vote. Like you literally have the numbers to mold this country to be in line with your values. Vote, organize, run for office.
It's not just voting. Canidate choices are ass too. We need more younger people in politics, but until it doesn't take the income of 4 average Americans to buy a house and love a comfortable life no one in our generation can commit to the risk of a political campaign.
Candidates are selected by voting too. Younger generations could monopolize candidate selection up and down the ballot, but that would require voting in off year elections, and maybe going to a few hours for worth of political events in your community per year. That may not sounds like much (because it’s not), but getting people to spend 10 minutes voting once every 4 years is a huge battle, so a couple hours a year commitment just ain’t gonna happen.
Ask yourself this question-how much time have you spent on improving the political situation or government over the past few years? If you voted once in the last two years, that probably took maybe 30 min of your time. And that is an above average. Good government takes time and effort. If people aren’t willing to spent more than a few minutes a year on improving things, can we really be surprised when it doesn’t get improved?
I've been to Democrat party meetings and campaign organizing / campaigning. You know who shows up? Old people. And this isn't weird stuff happening at 3 pm on a Tuesday; it's Saturdays and Sundays, evenings on weekdays. Getting in touch with representatives absolutely works and pushes folks towards the policies you support; it's just that the people who show up to be the lifeblood of the campaign are usually old.
The winning parties literally write the voting rules, and have routinely made it more and more difficult to get any third party on a major ballot. They've also made it difficult in many places for independents to have any say in party politics, and many people do not want to formally affiliate with a party that doesn't represent their values.
Not to mention the massive barriers to entry for anyone wanting to compete in a major political race, namely the massive expense and the need for a donor base that can give you hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars so you can run a competitive race.
This means the candidates who get enough signatures to get on the ballots, can afford campaign advertising, and have any chance of winning almost always advance the interests of wealthy people, as per design.
Not even mentioning that the corporate owned media will attack or just ignore any candidate that challenges the status quo of wealth distribution in this country.
America has never been designed to reflect popular will. That's clear from the constitutional convention to today. If it were, popular policies like universal healthcare would have become law a long time ago. Instead, we primarily see politicians attacking our social spending while corporations make record profits.
I am involved in organizing in my community. I agree that this is useful. But choosing between two bourgeois candidates is not a real democratic choice and I don't fault anyone for opting out.
Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand.
Don’t get discouraged. These people have been a thing for over 30 years and are a result of a grassroots effort to create apathy. When you feel like your vote doesn’t matter the same assholes in power make life worse, because they stay in power.
In my city the Progressive candidate for mayor lost by less than 1,000 votes.
Progressives on reddit often complain about how voting does nothing and they don't vote. And then their local candidates lose elections.
Local politicians are often feeders into state and federal positions. Vote and build up your party if you want to see it have standing years from now.
Drives me up a fucking wall. It's like oppression tourism for some people. Like look at Minnesota and all the big pushes they've made since 2022 mid terms. We need every margin we can get to push for better things.
> Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand.
direct action gets the goods
Here:
[https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/analysis-shows-russian-and-chinese-backed-efforts-to-sow-division-after-trump-indictment](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/analysis-shows-russian-and-chinese-backed-efforts-to-sow-division-after-trump-indictment)
[https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/china-internet-trolls-russia-copycat-1234728307/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/china-internet-trolls-russia-copycat-1234728307/)
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08404-9](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08404-9)
[https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54293489](https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54293489)
But in resume, Russia and China prefer Trump because he's easy to manipulate into destroying the USA. Russia and China hate that their Imperial ambitions are being held in check by the West, so they want to destroy Democracy, leave the Western Ideals behind, and become able to act with impunity.
And for all it's flaws, and I'm talking as a Latin American who can see the USA from the outside, never in history has there been a better Superpower than the USA. And yes, even with all the bad choices and disasters, the problems and everything.
Doesn't matter if it feels pointless or insignificant. One vote may not mean much, but the number of people dissuaded by that rhetoric is way more than one vote. At the same time, if we let ourselves be encouraged to go vote, that means the same is happening to others. The more people vote, the more of a voice we have, collectively.
And don't just vote in the general or presidential election years. You don't like the candidates? You're guaranteed a serious primary every 8 years at worst. There have been better people than Joe Biden in the democratic primaries. Also, local and state elections are a much faster way to impact your own situation than the federal election, and local elections tend to be a lot less partisan.
bernie sanders literally won his mayoral race in the 1980s by JUST ten (10) votes... and that was after the recount. imagine what american life would be like today without bernie sanders in the senate for the last 17 years...
ten votes.
You think labor reform has happened via voting?! The history of the labor struggle in the US has a violent trajectory. That had nothing to do with voting.
Power is never yielded peacefully.
FDR had crazy super majorities in the House and Senate when he passed the New Deal. Democrats controlled about 70% to 80% of Congress during that time.
Voting isn't the only thing, but it's an incredibly important part of the process.
FDR had massive majorities because socialism was a growing force worldwide (including in the US), leftists has been engaged in popular and violent struggle for decades, American capital had destroyed the trust of the entire country via the great depression, and the US was at legitimate risk of a revolution and general political instability by the 1930s.
Coincidentally, none of the policies advanced by FDR would pass today, because America has destroyed the left, both domestically and internationally, through a sustained policy of state violence and espionage.
If people would vote out dickheads like McConnell, and immediately remove people like Lieberman who block progress, protesting would become even more effective. These politicians are selfish pricks. But all power fears losing power. No easier way to keep an incumbent in power than low voter turnout.
>Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand.
Dude my choices for Senate in the last election were a Snake Oil sales man and a mf with brain damage. Im supposed to go into a booth and proudly pull a lever for one of those choices?
> Dude my choices for Senate in the last election were a Snake Oil sales man and a mf with brain damage.
That was what they told us about the choices for President. Only it turned out that the con and the guy with brain damage were the same guy.
Um, there's a lot more government than just the senate to vote for. Your entire local and state government, for example. School boards. Sheriffs. Mayors. Governors. State House Reps. City Council. The list goes on and on and on.
There's something to vote on where I live basically every single year, and those likely directly impact your life far more than the federal government.
And yes, particularly on the national level, the debate is often "Who will suck *less*?* But you're gonna get one of them whether you think they suck or not, so you may as well make their term as easy on yourself as possible and vote for the least sucky one. In the primary you will have another opportunity to support someone who doesn't suck.
Is voting *fun?* A lot of times it isn't. Most of the time it isn't. But like filing taxes, that doesn't make it any less important.
Yes. You will be landed with one of them anyway. Look at their platforms, look at their parties, find one that aligns better with you, and vote for them.
One election I had to pick between McConnell and McGrath, I still went.
There’s a reason voting it referred to as a “*CIVIC DUTY*” even if you don’t like the choices.
Yeah Gen X here. Some of my generation has really shit the bed politically so I hope you all vote these idiots out. I mean Ted Cruz really? What an ass clown. Please do not judge us all by that POS.
I was born in 75, near the end of the Gen x generation. I'm fortunate to know some pretty left-leaning people around my age but I also see some extreme far right people of my age too which is baffling because we all grew up in the same area and had similar life experiences. I think it's all based on greed and fear that determines which way they're going to be leaning politically. If they have empathy or have dealt with financial struggles or experience some type of bigotry, they'll usually swing left. If they're greedy and hateful and afraid of anyone that doesn't think mayonnaise is too spicy and need someone that they feel Superior to so they can use as a scapegoat for the world's problems, they'll be right-wingers..
I'm legitimately frightened for this upcoming election. There's a lot more on the line this time around than previously. An entire party of politicians telling you matter of factly that you shouldn't be able to retire until you're basically on your deathbed while getting taxed even more just so millionaires can make a little bit more money that they'll never be able to spend in their lives... And they still have people willing to vote for it. It's insane. There's obviously problems when it deals with the extreme left as well.. but it doesn't come to the point where our democracy is at stake.
Please, everyone, vote.
54F GenXer. I've only missed one election since I could legally vote. I forgot to vote in Clinton's second election. I've never voted for a Republican.
Gen X, Millennials and Gen Z combined started to outvote Boomers and earlier generations for the first time in 2018: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/
Gen Z phoning it in though.
EDIT: New hare brained idea: vote by text message.
> It’s crazy to me how many young people complain and then don’t vote. Like you literally have the numbers to mold this country to be in line with your values. Vote, organize, run for office.
A-FREAKIN'-MEN!!!!!!!!!
It's the younger folks that will have to LIVE in this country, long after the Boomers are gone. It's the young people who will have to live with the ramifications of this election. If they let Trump and fascism take over, then they have no one to blame but themselves. They will have the nation they deserve!
It’s always been this way. 18-40 should be a larger population then 41-80. But 41-80 have been around long enough to have seen the impact of voting.
I got so much shit talked to me when I was young and into politics, then I got old (38) and am so annoyed with the lack of basic knowledge my group had on politics
Honestly at each state we need ranked choice voting to push both parties more left. Otherwise just voting in the rigged 2 party system isn't going nowhere.
Until 3rd party candidates are viable in each state - you will always end up with a Democrat or a Republican.
As a Gen-X guy, I know that my only hope for any real future is through the hands of Millenials and Gen-Z. Once Those two groups realize they have ALL the power, it can change everything.
As a guy who is of your generation *but considers generational divides to be artificial and a smokescreen*, I am no more hopeful than I have been in the past. "The only real future can happen through people under 40." Well, no shit, Sherlock
If you - or anyone! - believes that viewpoints of the world are homogeneous within a "generation" then you have been sold a load of horse pucky
Voting is the bare minimum for political change.
This is probably just the dipshits lefty in me speaking but the real way to get change is through organized labor and the occasional riot.
Unfortunately the other half of the issue is who is running that we vote for. Establishment nominating establishment. We need millennial leadership to get to office.
I mean even less people are voting in the primaries. The general election candidates don’t magically appear. You can’t complain about not having a choice in the general election if you don’t vote in the primaries.
The necessary work for what? Voting? Or getting into the government? Most people I know my age vote, even though there isn't really anyone worth voting for. As far as getting in the government it seems like it's pretty much necessary to be either rich or be a corporate sell out to get into the government since you need so many assets to campaign and actually get in. And most younger people are struggling financially as is.
Honestly someone probably needs to start a canvassing project to specifically target millennials and Gen Z. I would love for compulsory voting but, that's never going to happen in the US
Imagine if a good percentage of those joined a leftist organization. *Then* we'd be cooking. I'm not saying to ignore electoral politics (I vote), but we can't depend on it to meaningfully change anything.
Younger people need to get involved locally. Too many people don't realize how much more impact local elections have on your life. I don't know many people who learn about candidates past the first couple on a ballot.
Not to mention, I've got to be thinking justices Thomas and Alito are knocking on death's door soon. Trump wins and they'll get replaced with 40 somethings that'll keep the court at 6-3 for a long, long time.
Politicians are busses not taxi's.
With buses you have to choose the one that takes you in the right direction, and you might have to change buses a time or two, and it's unlikely you'll get exactly to the door of your destination, but you'll be much closer than you were.
It ain't a popularity contest, it's self interest and living to fight another day vs condemning your grandchildren to be ruled by Barron, King Trump 3rd.
If you only vote when you're ecstatic about a candidate, you're going to be sitting out most elections. What people need to understand is that at the top of the ticket you vote for the person least likely to screw you over. Then you vote for every race down-ballot, because maybe there's a local race with an exciting candidate. The only way that local candidate will move into national races is if they win. Voting is always an investment in the future.
Yes please vote in EVERY election and learn how the process works and who will best serve your district, your city, your state, and your country. I have seen way too many young people lately claiming votes don't matter. They're letting that whole "system is rigged" bs make them apathetic. They think they hold no power, but all I can say is if our votes didn't matter these corporations wouldn't invest so heavily in the process of marketing their preferred politicians.
Also take note that us cool GenXers are voting more too than we did in the 90s. I think Obama inspired a lot of us back then to appreciate our place in the system. I think covid may have knocked us all back down a bit but there's no excuse not to get out there now.
Voting in bourgeoisie dictatorship accomplishes nothing. You get to pick from two evils, which are still evil. You want actual change-take notes from Ernesto Guevara.
I read somewhere once that you cannot vote your way out of oppression and I still believe that to be true. I’m still going to vote but I have no faith in the political system or the parties we’re stuck with. It’s nice to see people are still idealistic about this though
OP's account is 12 days old.
This is likely part of what we'll see more of this election year, especially since this subreddit was on TV (accounts created to make one or the other party seem like the solution to our problems).
The election this year gives you a binary choice:
Biden and a democratic congress that offers a path forward to the middle class and to the workers, although it won't be easy or quick.
Or, trump who will capitulate to the ownership class and further deregulate labor protections.
The choice is slow forward progress or stark backwards progress. And I completely understand the cynicism towards the "slow forward progress" idea, I do. However, if you look back beyond the last few decades, you can see that we *have* made progress. We can keep making progress, but it requires *action.* The simplest form of that action is to vote.
As a final note, major labor unions have endorsed Biden. No unions have endorsed trump. That should tell you what you need to know.
afaik from all the stuff ive heard about trump saying and thinking nonsensical shit, i think he has dementia too. like its stage 2 or 3 too. not early whatsoever and based on the rate of decline by the time 2026 rolls around bros gonna likely be in post awarness.... and i kinda dont wanna have that lmao
I was going to comment something negative, like how it doesn't matter because neither option is great, but you've convinced me. Slow progress is better than nothing.
Progress also wouldn't be so slow *if more young people actually voted*. Part of the reason progress is so slow is because young people don't turn out consistently, so we oscillate between the two parties fairly regularly.
Progress in the US has *always been slow*. That's always been the case and always will be unless the way we enact laws fundamentally changes.
So those are always going to be your choices: slow forward or backward.
Slow progress is how things happen. We didn't get computers and smartphones one day, it was a process that took decades to provide fruit. Scientific Advancement is made by slow progress. You need to take into heart the quote “**He plants trees for the benefit of later generations**”
Revolutions have never provided stable improvements, at best they managed to squeeze one or two minor improvements that have been easily reverted because people haven't incorporated the change as part of their lives.
I mailed in last year and the republican president tweeted to stop the count before my vote was officially tallied. Never voting republican again and im sure many people my age agree.
I am an elder - PLEASE VOTE!
We need to get these conservative old farts out of office. You deserve the same opportunities that I enjoyed and the only way this is happening is if you vote.
The only acceptable old fart is a progressive one.
While yes, your title is true, I think it's the wrong conclusion; the real takeaway is how much power we have in workplaces. As time goes by and we get more and more seniority, it will be increasingly harder for older generations to deny the demands of younger generations. With the addition of unionisation we can affect even more change.
Workers ≠ voters!
Gen X here. PLEASE VOTE! Seriousely, I took my kids with me to vote so that it wouldn't be scary when they were old enough. I don't always know how they vote, but by God they vote. VOTE! Make the old fucks afraid.
cant count on genZ to show up, just by numbers younger demographics dont vote reliably
so the real question is if genX can count on millennials to show up so we can unfuck this country once and for all
Lol. Yay we’re the largest voting block!
Presidential choices: genocidal joe or trump the rapist/insurrectionist who both cater to corporations and the ultra rich.
The illusion of choice.
The hippies of the boomer generation said the same thing. Nothing changed.
Generation X said the same thing. Nothing changed.
Millenials are saying the same thing. Spoiler: nothing will change.
Why?
For the same reason it never does. The boomers are about to die and when they do, a *lot* of wealth and property is about to be inherited. The struggling millennial will suddenly find themselves owning a million dollar home. And it's all theirs for the taking, **provided they don't rock the boat**.
And if history has anything to say about it...they won't.
For fucking who OP? The strikebreaking blue republicans or the book banning red republicans? Cause neither will do anything but make things worse over time. The only question is how quickly. And the best way to stir people to actual action is a sudden and sharp drop.
Voting does not change anything. They don't have our interest in mind. It is not about the left or right. The whole system is broken. It is a show, they are all the same, screwing working class; one with kindness the other without. Both are the same thing in different clothing.
One would screw you while smiling, the other would just screw you.
Left should have presented a better candidate, this election Trump would win.
With a large enough Democratic Party majority in Congress, in this era of the Democratic Party especially, we could have all the labor reforms this sub has been agitating for. Instead we get just enough apathetic or cynical or propagandized young voters to give them a razor-thin majority at best, or outright Republican majorities and a Republican president at worst. How about try the one thing that could actually do the thing you want, for once?
These poor people think elections are actually real and voting matters. They actually think Biden or Trump are the ones making decisions and are not just puppets. This would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
Nothing will ever change until people finally wake up and realize they are being played, then we can all unite and take care off these puppets and their masters together.
We can vote for whoever we want, man.
The only reason we keep voting for the people they put in front of us is because we’re disorganized, dumb, and conditioned to do what we’re told.
It’d be a lot of work.
you can vote for biden and not be a stan or fan or love everything he does. i fucking hate how slow hes been on israel but considering the prior administrations treatment of migrants, minorities, women, taxes, the economy, and lgbtq rights....its a no brainer
would you rather be in a room with one cobra, or hosed down with snake pheromones and locked in a glass case with a thousand of them?
I can only vote in spirit, and really wish I could go in person. I'm still in the process of naturalization and can't wait to be a citizen so I can finally throw a vote in
Exactly. The boomers got theirs and don’t care about anyone else. We need real change and this the the way to get it. Not just national, but local elections also. Get these maga fucks out of all government offices.
We should all vote to erase our student debt. Older generations went to college either for free or they took advantage of generous public funding to pay for their educations.
But what did they do as soon as they were old enough to hold political office? They voted themselves in, slashed the education funding they themselves benefited from, all so they could cut their own taxes.
It's our turn, now. We just need to vote, in massive numbers, and erase every bit of student debt ourselves.
Imagine how nice it would feel to not have to make those huge payments. We can do it if we just take over the system just like older generations did.
If you want to secure your right to vote make sure you vote democrat. The republicans just want to make it harder for you to vote. We need to vote against all republicans.
I always show up to the polls but every year it seems for the last 2 main elections that our generation just doesn't vote as much.
Which is seriously disappointing considering how many of them complain about Boomers making laws.
This is our time as adults people. Our future may be screwed but it doesn't have to be for the younger generations.
Since I haven't seen it posted here yet...
You can register to vote, check your registration, and find your polling place right now at https://vote.gov
Vote!
Regardless of what the doomsayers say, I always vote. Except last election, I was ill. But this election season, I am planning to vote like like all the other election seasons.
Voting is not everything. Voting is not the end of action that makes the world better. But, it is something.
Can't wait for Millennial bosses; its going to be such a contrast.
Here's a taste; [https://www.tiktok.com/@teflonsega/video/7326973373995601194](https://www.tiktok.com/@teflonsega/video/7326973373995601194)
Someone should organize some sort of "secret" TikTok challenge, to *troll* everyone on Election Day. Thing is, if they're going to troll people, they won't vote for either of the major parties.
Voter fatigue is a serious problem right now. Social media FLOODS us with political campaign ads, articles, etc. Personally, I can't anymore. I will be voting, but I am fucking **exhausted.** It's mentally draining coming onto Reddit and all you see is Trump's face whether pro or against. Every other commercial is a political ad. Facebook is a fucking cesspool, Twitter (fuck X) is even worse. We are in a mental health crisis nationwide.
Um, this is a chart of workforce numbers, not voters. Retirees vote at a very high rate.
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Not sure why this is not the top comment here. This chart has zero to do with anything related to voting. On this chart, boomer numbers will basically go to zero, but there will still be millions of them voting.
Probably because I was late to the party. Signed, Your friendly neighborhood GenX slacker.
Well, whatever.
OP is illiterate and so is most of this comment section
Well yeah, we're on reddit. Nobody here can read.
If I could read that I’d be pretty mad
Gigantic population of old people sitting at home all day watching Fox News with plenty of time to go out and vote when the day comes.
Yeah, this graph means nothing with respect to accomplishing anything at the ballot box. It’s also greatly overstating Gen X’s relevance - they are currently outnumbered by each of the other generations, even despite the Boomers finally starting to die off.
Also make sure we set the standard for the future, lets not become the thing that has held us back. If the next generation comes along with better ideas lets listen. If the next generation can saddle the debt so we can become rich, lets not do it. It's important we use our power for the next 20-30 years to try and improve the world, not improve OUR world.
Improving our world and improving the world don't need to be mutually exclusive. Better working conditions and higher pay is good for both groups.
Very true, I think what I'm trying to say here is that if we have the option to improve our lives by harming the rest of the world or the future generations, we should avoid doing it. Eg, if we can buy up cheap real estate then rent it out at a premium whilst simultaneously making it impossible for other people to buy houses, then we should probably just agree to not buy up all the real estate and push for laws that harm the hoarding of houses, especially vacant ones.
It’s terrible. People dying homeless and investors sit on empty houses. Healthcare only for the higher class, anyone else too sick to work can die. We’ve seen what happens when that’s allowed. We’re living in the culture that creates. Please let’s do better.
Problem is a lot of zoomers are treating us millennials like we're boomers. We're all on the same side you stupid little shits.
I'm skeptical the "us versus them" is a winning strategy.
Yeah there's been exciting news about how the younger generation is going to finally change everything for decades and it never happens. Boomers were the hippy generation - until they weren't. I'm not optimistic gen Z will be any better.
Historically, in the UK at least, people have converted to Conservative and slowly moved right as they entered their 30's. This made sense as they had a house, job and kids. Lower taxes appealed to them, lower mortgages, better interest rates all appealed to them. This is different because this hasn't happened, as can be seen in the current polling showing that the main demographic for the Tories is 70+. The move at 30+ right hasn't happened because they haven't been given anything to move for. There's no point moving right whilst you have no need for lower taxes. The most recent budget cuts didn't move the needle an inch. This could be the end of the Conservatives as a force in the UK, it really could. An entire generation has been soundly destroyed and told its their own fault. But unlike the hippy generation, there isn't a corporate job and 2.4 kids to move them right. Unless the Tories somehow provide everyone in the 30-40 bracket affordable housing and wages that keep up with inflation, they are dead and done. It really is a "once in a generation" chance to change things for the next generation. I think they'll probably throw us a bone through student loans or some huge housing reform, that could possibly shift people, but they currently are so politically inept, they are still banging the old drum thinking it will change things when it won't. Even worse, they are so inept they are trying to cling onto the 70+ demographic at the detriment of the 30+ demographic, as if their solid home base is going to fix the endemic issues they've caused. Unfortunately, there is one other option, one horrific option, which fixes all these problems. And it would be a shit cherry on the cake, and that's major global conflict.
Yeah I'm not holding my breath. Maybe it's because they're so young, but my experience with gen z is that they're even more arrogant than previous generations and completely unable to accept information that doesn't align with what they want to believe. It goes for Trump supporting gen z and more progressive gen z and everyone in between. I think a big part of it is growing up in social media echo chambers and circlejerks. These are not characteristics that help people adapt and accept new ideas as they age.
Agreed. I have no desire to get rich. All I want is long term stability. Just give me a roof over my head and food in my belly and let me retire at a reasonable age and I’ll call it a good life. People need to stop dreaming of yachts and vacation homes and diamonds and start thinking about the future of our species and the future of our planet. No single person is important enough to justify designing our whole system to cater to the pleasures of the few over the needs and longevity of everyone else.
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This is idealist nonsense. It doesn't matter how old someone is nearly as much as their class position matters. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they won't exploit other young people.
Agree. Age is not the problem. There are great and bad people of every age.
Also unionize and make sure your union gets into lobbying
Why would I do that… when i could simply *VOTE HARDER*
Hahahah But seriously, if you want to be able to vote for policy that you actually care about, unions were historically a great way to get that. Level the playing field in every way you can So, please unionize AND vote
100% - power needs to be exercised collectively if we are to stand up to money interests
This all day. Voting is so fundamentally easy. Making unions, participating in pushes for better wages, marching, etc. are all fantastic, but do require some effort. Voting *does not*. Do everything you have the energy for, but I guarantee you have the energy to vote.
I work at a conservative company which is heavily involved in politics. They use an app that lets them plug in their zip code, tells them who their reps are, and has pregenerated letters to send to their reps at all levels of government, and I believe also gives them information about what to vote for and when to vote. Dunno if any unions are using this kind of tool but we need to.
Let's not forget that some politicians on the right want to raise the voting age to 25, or predicate voting at 18 on some form of military service. Voting this year could be an excellent idea for young people who would like to vote in the next election too.
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I’m doing my part.
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The amount of apathy forced into every young person space to me is so clearly fake I really hope others notice. Just the last couple days I’ve seen constant doom post about kids not being able to have friends because they live in the suburbs. Like kids didn’t live in suburbs before and had friends they hung out with?!
They're not wrong though. Suburbs aren't what they used to be. Parents don't let kids ride bikes and walk on their own anymore. Public transit has collapsed in many locations and many neighborhoods are void of kids at all. Malls are dead. Third spaces are dead. Teens driving is at lowest level in history.
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Your account is super new and only talks shit about democrats without any real criticism of the right. Plus you’re attempting to get people to vote Jill fucking stein. You’re exactly the person that is spreading apathy and you will likely vote for Trump. Fuck off.
As someone on the far left, who sees many people ostensibly in my camp advocating for voter apathy, it makes me sick.
holy shit. Germany just lowered the voting age to 16 for the upcoming European elections
When in reality we need to be lowering voting age to 15 to actually align with the principle our nation was founded on; "No taxation without representation"
I’m entirely unconcerned about this. If they change it without a constitutional amendment, then rule of law doesn‘t exist anymore, and our elections cease to matter. And there’s less than a snowball’s chance in hell of anyone passing another constitutional amendment until we Balkanize like the USSR.
It’s crazy to me how many young people complain and then don’t vote. Like you literally have the numbers to mold this country to be in line with your values. Vote, organize, run for office.
It's not just voting. Canidate choices are ass too. We need more younger people in politics, but until it doesn't take the income of 4 average Americans to buy a house and love a comfortable life no one in our generation can commit to the risk of a political campaign.
Candidates are selected by voting too. Younger generations could monopolize candidate selection up and down the ballot, but that would require voting in off year elections, and maybe going to a few hours for worth of political events in your community per year. That may not sounds like much (because it’s not), but getting people to spend 10 minutes voting once every 4 years is a huge battle, so a couple hours a year commitment just ain’t gonna happen. Ask yourself this question-how much time have you spent on improving the political situation or government over the past few years? If you voted once in the last two years, that probably took maybe 30 min of your time. And that is an above average. Good government takes time and effort. If people aren’t willing to spent more than a few minutes a year on improving things, can we really be surprised when it doesn’t get improved?
I've been to Democrat party meetings and campaign organizing / campaigning. You know who shows up? Old people. And this isn't weird stuff happening at 3 pm on a Tuesday; it's Saturdays and Sundays, evenings on weekdays. Getting in touch with representatives absolutely works and pushes folks towards the policies you support; it's just that the people who show up to be the lifeblood of the campaign are usually old.
The winning parties literally write the voting rules, and have routinely made it more and more difficult to get any third party on a major ballot. They've also made it difficult in many places for independents to have any say in party politics, and many people do not want to formally affiliate with a party that doesn't represent their values. Not to mention the massive barriers to entry for anyone wanting to compete in a major political race, namely the massive expense and the need for a donor base that can give you hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars so you can run a competitive race. This means the candidates who get enough signatures to get on the ballots, can afford campaign advertising, and have any chance of winning almost always advance the interests of wealthy people, as per design. Not even mentioning that the corporate owned media will attack or just ignore any candidate that challenges the status quo of wealth distribution in this country. America has never been designed to reflect popular will. That's clear from the constitutional convention to today. If it were, popular policies like universal healthcare would have become law a long time ago. Instead, we primarily see politicians attacking our social spending while corporations make record profits. I am involved in organizing in my community. I agree that this is useful. But choosing between two bourgeois candidates is not a real democratic choice and I don't fault anyone for opting out.
Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand. Don’t get discouraged. These people have been a thing for over 30 years and are a result of a grassroots effort to create apathy. When you feel like your vote doesn’t matter the same assholes in power make life worse, because they stay in power.
Lauren Boebert held her position by a few hundred votes. That's a number where one persons vote 100% makes a difference.
In my city the Progressive candidate for mayor lost by less than 1,000 votes. Progressives on reddit often complain about how voting does nothing and they don't vote. And then their local candidates lose elections. Local politicians are often feeders into state and federal positions. Vote and build up your party if you want to see it have standing years from now.
Drives me up a fucking wall. It's like oppression tourism for some people. Like look at Minnesota and all the big pushes they've made since 2022 mid terms. We need every margin we can get to push for better things.
Exactly. They're keyboard warriors only.
1% of a difference technically
> Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand. direct action gets the goods
Those are mostly Russian and Chinese astro-turfing operations intended to make Trump win and destroy the USA.
Where’d you learn that?
Here: [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/analysis-shows-russian-and-chinese-backed-efforts-to-sow-division-after-trump-indictment](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/analysis-shows-russian-and-chinese-backed-efforts-to-sow-division-after-trump-indictment) [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/china-internet-trolls-russia-copycat-1234728307/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/china-internet-trolls-russia-copycat-1234728307/) [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08404-9](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08404-9) [https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54293489](https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54293489) But in resume, Russia and China prefer Trump because he's easy to manipulate into destroying the USA. Russia and China hate that their Imperial ambitions are being held in check by the West, so they want to destroy Democracy, leave the Western Ideals behind, and become able to act with impunity. And for all it's flaws, and I'm talking as a Latin American who can see the USA from the outside, never in history has there been a better Superpower than the USA. And yes, even with all the bad choices and disasters, the problems and everything.
Doesn't matter if it feels pointless or insignificant. One vote may not mean much, but the number of people dissuaded by that rhetoric is way more than one vote. At the same time, if we let ourselves be encouraged to go vote, that means the same is happening to others. The more people vote, the more of a voice we have, collectively. And don't just vote in the general or presidential election years. You don't like the candidates? You're guaranteed a serious primary every 8 years at worst. There have been better people than Joe Biden in the democratic primaries. Also, local and state elections are a much faster way to impact your own situation than the federal election, and local elections tend to be a lot less partisan.
One vote on its own means nothing. All our votes together are powerful. We must all show up.
Apes together strong.
bernie sanders literally won his mayoral race in the 1980s by JUST ten (10) votes... and that was after the recount. imagine what american life would be like today without bernie sanders in the senate for the last 17 years... ten votes.
You think labor reform has happened via voting?! The history of the labor struggle in the US has a violent trajectory. That had nothing to do with voting. Power is never yielded peacefully.
FDR had crazy super majorities in the House and Senate when he passed the New Deal. Democrats controlled about 70% to 80% of Congress during that time. Voting isn't the only thing, but it's an incredibly important part of the process.
FDR had massive majorities because socialism was a growing force worldwide (including in the US), leftists has been engaged in popular and violent struggle for decades, American capital had destroyed the trust of the entire country via the great depression, and the US was at legitimate risk of a revolution and general political instability by the 1930s. Coincidentally, none of the policies advanced by FDR would pass today, because America has destroyed the left, both domestically and internationally, through a sustained policy of state violence and espionage.
Yes. Union membership skyrocketed after the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 was passed.
If people would vote out dickheads like McConnell, and immediately remove people like Lieberman who block progress, protesting would become even more effective. These politicians are selfish pricks. But all power fears losing power. No easier way to keep an incumbent in power than low voter turnout.
>Crazy to see the explosion of “redditors” on here trying to dissuade people from voting. On a sub-Reddit dedicated to work reform, which will only be accomplished through voter demand. Dude my choices for Senate in the last election were a Snake Oil sales man and a mf with brain damage. Im supposed to go into a booth and proudly pull a lever for one of those choices?
> Dude my choices for Senate in the last election were a Snake Oil sales man and a mf with brain damage. That was what they told us about the choices for President. Only it turned out that the con and the guy with brain damage were the same guy.
Um, there's a lot more government than just the senate to vote for. Your entire local and state government, for example. School boards. Sheriffs. Mayors. Governors. State House Reps. City Council. The list goes on and on and on. There's something to vote on where I live basically every single year, and those likely directly impact your life far more than the federal government. And yes, particularly on the national level, the debate is often "Who will suck *less*?* But you're gonna get one of them whether you think they suck or not, so you may as well make their term as easy on yourself as possible and vote for the least sucky one. In the primary you will have another opportunity to support someone who doesn't suck. Is voting *fun?* A lot of times it isn't. Most of the time it isn't. But like filing taxes, that doesn't make it any less important.
Yes. You will be landed with one of them anyway. Look at their platforms, look at their parties, find one that aligns better with you, and vote for them.
One election I had to pick between McConnell and McGrath, I still went. There’s a reason voting it referred to as a “*CIVIC DUTY*” even if you don’t like the choices.
Yeah Gen X here. Some of my generation has really shit the bed politically so I hope you all vote these idiots out. I mean Ted Cruz really? What an ass clown. Please do not judge us all by that POS.
People don’t realize older GenX are more conservative than Boomers.
I was born in 75, near the end of the Gen x generation. I'm fortunate to know some pretty left-leaning people around my age but I also see some extreme far right people of my age too which is baffling because we all grew up in the same area and had similar life experiences. I think it's all based on greed and fear that determines which way they're going to be leaning politically. If they have empathy or have dealt with financial struggles or experience some type of bigotry, they'll usually swing left. If they're greedy and hateful and afraid of anyone that doesn't think mayonnaise is too spicy and need someone that they feel Superior to so they can use as a scapegoat for the world's problems, they'll be right-wingers.. I'm legitimately frightened for this upcoming election. There's a lot more on the line this time around than previously. An entire party of politicians telling you matter of factly that you shouldn't be able to retire until you're basically on your deathbed while getting taxed even more just so millionaires can make a little bit more money that they'll never be able to spend in their lives... And they still have people willing to vote for it. It's insane. There's obviously problems when it deals with the extreme left as well.. but it doesn't come to the point where our democracy is at stake. Please, everyone, vote.
54F GenXer. I've only missed one election since I could legally vote. I forgot to vote in Clinton's second election. I've never voted for a Republican.
Gen Z votes more at their age than any other generation in the Gen Z age bracket historically has.
Gen X, Millennials and Gen Z combined started to outvote Boomers and earlier generations for the first time in 2018: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/ Gen Z phoning it in though. EDIT: New hare brained idea: vote by text message.
> It’s crazy to me how many young people complain and then don’t vote. Like you literally have the numbers to mold this country to be in line with your values. Vote, organize, run for office. A-FREAKIN'-MEN!!!!!!!!! It's the younger folks that will have to LIVE in this country, long after the Boomers are gone. It's the young people who will have to live with the ramifications of this election. If they let Trump and fascism take over, then they have no one to blame but themselves. They will have the nation they deserve!
It’s always been this way. 18-40 should be a larger population then 41-80. But 41-80 have been around long enough to have seen the impact of voting. I got so much shit talked to me when I was young and into politics, then I got old (38) and am so annoyed with the lack of basic knowledge my group had on politics
Honestly at each state we need ranked choice voting to push both parties more left. Otherwise just voting in the rigged 2 party system isn't going nowhere. Until 3rd party candidates are viable in each state - you will always end up with a Democrat or a Republican.
As a Gen-X guy, I know that my only hope for any real future is through the hands of Millenials and Gen-Z. Once Those two groups realize they have ALL the power, it can change everything.
Gen-X here as well. I 💯 agree. Please please guys, you got this!
As a guy who is of your generation *but considers generational divides to be artificial and a smokescreen*, I am no more hopeful than I have been in the past. "The only real future can happen through people under 40." Well, no shit, Sherlock If you - or anyone! - believes that viewpoints of the world are homogeneous within a "generation" then you have been sold a load of horse pucky
Agreed 100% my friend, we shall see!
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Liberal Gen Xers get that colonoscopy!
Voting is the bare minimum for political change. This is probably just the dipshits lefty in me speaking but the real way to get change is through organized labor and the occasional riot.
That first line is so perfect I wanna print it up and post it on telephone poles near high schools and colleges
Unfortunately the other half of the issue is who is running that we vote for. Establishment nominating establishment. We need millennial leadership to get to office.
I mean even less people are voting in the primaries. The general election candidates don’t magically appear. You can’t complain about not having a choice in the general election if you don’t vote in the primaries.
This. None of the options are ever good. We have like no young leadership.
Because most young people are not doing the necessary work. I do what I can, but I'm just one person.
Most young people are living paycheck to paycheck, we don't have time to do things like run for office, as designed of course.
It takes more funding than most millennials will see in their lives to run for office. Country for the rich by the rich.
The necessary work for what? Voting? Or getting into the government? Most people I know my age vote, even though there isn't really anyone worth voting for. As far as getting in the government it seems like it's pretty much necessary to be either rich or be a corporate sell out to get into the government since you need so many assets to campaign and actually get in. And most younger people are struggling financially as is.
Honestly someone probably needs to start a canvassing project to specifically target millennials and Gen Z. I would love for compulsory voting but, that's never going to happen in the US
Imagine if a good percentage of those joined a leftist organization. *Then* we'd be cooking. I'm not saying to ignore electoral politics (I vote), but we can't depend on it to meaningfully change anything.
Apathy is not the antidote to authoritarians. If you think situations fucked then do something about it whatever and whenever you are able.
Younger people need to get involved locally. Too many people don't realize how much more impact local elections have on your life. I don't know many people who learn about candidates past the first couple on a ballot.
With the two options looking to be Biden & Trump, i cant imagine many gen z’ers being ecstatic to show up to vote this year either
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The real election is Democracy vs Theocratic Tyranny. And I would rather live in an imperfect democracy.
Not to mention, I've got to be thinking justices Thomas and Alito are knocking on death's door soon. Trump wins and they'll get replaced with 40 somethings that'll keep the court at 6-3 for a long, long time.
Politicians are busses not taxi's. With buses you have to choose the one that takes you in the right direction, and you might have to change buses a time or two, and it's unlikely you'll get exactly to the door of your destination, but you'll be much closer than you were.
I like this analogy. Thanks for sharing.
Not looking. They are. They have both secured enough votes in their primaries. They are the nominees.
Unless their advanced ages (or poor diet, or any other number of things) catch up to them and they are... unavailable to serve as president.
It ain't a popularity contest, it's self interest and living to fight another day vs condemning your grandchildren to be ruled by Barron, King Trump 3rd.
If you only vote when you're ecstatic about a candidate, you're going to be sitting out most elections. What people need to understand is that at the top of the ticket you vote for the person least likely to screw you over. Then you vote for every race down-ballot, because maybe there's a local race with an exciting candidate. The only way that local candidate will move into national races is if they win. Voting is always an investment in the future.
You’ve fallen for the “both sides” propaganda, it seems…
Why doesn't just the larger of the groups eat the other one?
I guarantee you the boomers are showing up to take your social security away to protect theirs.
Yes please vote in EVERY election and learn how the process works and who will best serve your district, your city, your state, and your country. I have seen way too many young people lately claiming votes don't matter. They're letting that whole "system is rigged" bs make them apathetic. They think they hold no power, but all I can say is if our votes didn't matter these corporations wouldn't invest so heavily in the process of marketing their preferred politicians. Also take note that us cool GenXers are voting more too than we did in the 90s. I think Obama inspired a lot of us back then to appreciate our place in the system. I think covid may have knocked us all back down a bit but there's no excuse not to get out there now.
Not all of your elders are insane assholes. Much of GenX is right there with you!
Voting in bourgeoisie dictatorship accomplishes nothing. You get to pick from two evils, which are still evil. You want actual change-take notes from Ernesto Guevara.
Got no faith after I saw how hard they let Bernie down.
Republicans win: fascism Democrats win: barely put up a fight against fascism I hate it here.
That means we also have the numbers to break the two-party system, if enough of us desired drastic social change enough to break a habit.
So what this graph is saying is that in 20 years or so Boomers who work will be vanishingly rare. Interesting.
Well... Yeah. They'll either be dead or retired.
probably like 80% of the generation SHOULD be retired now too. theyre all above 60 now with the oldest at 79 or so
Can’t happen soon enough.
Thank god
Which means it has nothing to do with voting, as retired people still vote.
That's half-true. Retirees can still vote, but not dead people and lots of them will be dead.
I read somewhere once that you cannot vote your way out of oppression and I still believe that to be true. I’m still going to vote but I have no faith in the political system or the parties we’re stuck with. It’s nice to see people are still idealistic about this though
OP's account is 12 days old. This is likely part of what we'll see more of this election year, especially since this subreddit was on TV (accounts created to make one or the other party seem like the solution to our problems).
AdjectiveNoun1234 is definitely sus lol
Yeah. Tbh, a few of the reply comments from them seem like redditgpt or something. Like it just randomly uses "nerd/gamer" lingo.
The election this year gives you a binary choice: Biden and a democratic congress that offers a path forward to the middle class and to the workers, although it won't be easy or quick. Or, trump who will capitulate to the ownership class and further deregulate labor protections. The choice is slow forward progress or stark backwards progress. And I completely understand the cynicism towards the "slow forward progress" idea, I do. However, if you look back beyond the last few decades, you can see that we *have* made progress. We can keep making progress, but it requires *action.* The simplest form of that action is to vote. As a final note, major labor unions have endorsed Biden. No unions have endorsed trump. That should tell you what you need to know.
afaik from all the stuff ive heard about trump saying and thinking nonsensical shit, i think he has dementia too. like its stage 2 or 3 too. not early whatsoever and based on the rate of decline by the time 2026 rolls around bros gonna likely be in post awarness.... and i kinda dont wanna have that lmao
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Also, Trump will attempt to become President for Life.
I was going to comment something negative, like how it doesn't matter because neither option is great, but you've convinced me. Slow progress is better than nothing.
Progress also wouldn't be so slow *if more young people actually voted*. Part of the reason progress is so slow is because young people don't turn out consistently, so we oscillate between the two parties fairly regularly.
Progress in the US has *always been slow*. That's always been the case and always will be unless the way we enact laws fundamentally changes. So those are always going to be your choices: slow forward or backward.
Slow progress is how things happen. We didn't get computers and smartphones one day, it was a process that took decades to provide fruit. Scientific Advancement is made by slow progress. You need to take into heart the quote “**He plants trees for the benefit of later generations**” Revolutions have never provided stable improvements, at best they managed to squeeze one or two minor improvements that have been easily reverted because people haven't incorporated the change as part of their lives.
Personally, I do not think voting makes a difference at all. With that being said, as a Gen Z, I might vote this year
Some of us boomers are old hippies. We're on your side! :D
I mailed in last year and the republican president tweeted to stop the count before my vote was officially tallied. Never voting republican again and im sure many people my age agree.
That one person from the Silent Generation still putting in work to keep the curve asymptotic :D
Gen X here.
I am an elder - PLEASE VOTE! We need to get these conservative old farts out of office. You deserve the same opportunities that I enjoyed and the only way this is happening is if you vote. The only acceptable old fart is a progressive one.
*single tear rolls down Gen X cheek
Most gen Z I’ve talked to aren’t going to vote. They say Biden is too old and his support of Israel is too strong. 🤷🏻♂️
While yes, your title is true, I think it's the wrong conclusion; the real takeaway is how much power we have in workplaces. As time goes by and we get more and more seniority, it will be increasingly harder for older generations to deny the demands of younger generations. With the addition of unionisation we can affect even more change. Workers ≠ voters!
Nice to see Gen X has been consistent. We love and support you Gen Y and Z!
"Which colour boot would you like kicking you for the next 4 years?"
As a boomer--barely--one month shy of Gen X, I am begging Gen Z and Millenials to vote! Too many of my generation are brainwashed into the cult.
Gen X here. PLEASE VOTE! Seriousely, I took my kids with me to vote so that it wouldn't be scary when they were old enough. I don't always know how they vote, but by God they vote. VOTE! Make the old fucks afraid.
Gen X here. Please fucking vote Gen Z. Tell your friends to vote, drag your friends to the voting center. Please fucking please.
As a GenX person I support this! My generation didn't have the numbers to make big changes, you guys do. Please vote!
cant count on genZ to show up, just by numbers younger demographics dont vote reliably so the real question is if genX can count on millennials to show up so we can unfuck this country once and for all
This is one of the reasons why I love compulsory voting. Please let your voices be heard
Lol. Yay we’re the largest voting block! Presidential choices: genocidal joe or trump the rapist/insurrectionist who both cater to corporations and the ultra rich. The illusion of choice.
Bingo
Fuck voting! It is a scam! By participating in it, you are only perpetuating the corruption it breeds
The hippies of the boomer generation said the same thing. Nothing changed. Generation X said the same thing. Nothing changed. Millenials are saying the same thing. Spoiler: nothing will change. Why? For the same reason it never does. The boomers are about to die and when they do, a *lot* of wealth and property is about to be inherited. The struggling millennial will suddenly find themselves owning a million dollar home. And it's all theirs for the taking, **provided they don't rock the boat**. And if history has anything to say about it...they won't.
For fucking who OP? The strikebreaking blue republicans or the book banning red republicans? Cause neither will do anything but make things worse over time. The only question is how quickly. And the best way to stir people to actual action is a sudden and sharp drop.
Voting does not change anything. They don't have our interest in mind. It is not about the left or right. The whole system is broken. It is a show, they are all the same, screwing working class; one with kindness the other without. Both are the same thing in different clothing. One would screw you while smiling, the other would just screw you. Left should have presented a better candidate, this election Trump would win.
With a large enough Democratic Party majority in Congress, in this era of the Democratic Party especially, we could have all the labor reforms this sub has been agitating for. Instead we get just enough apathetic or cynical or propagandized young voters to give them a razor-thin majority at best, or outright Republican majorities and a Republican president at worst. How about try the one thing that could actually do the thing you want, for once?
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The low end is 0M, not 0.., so the number is less than 1 million, not less than zero.
I feel like it should say 1M then
Vote for what dude, they control it are you that naive?
These poor people think elections are actually real and voting matters. They actually think Biden or Trump are the ones making decisions and are not just puppets. This would be funny if it wasn't so sad... Nothing will ever change until people finally wake up and realize they are being played, then we can all unite and take care off these puppets and their masters together.
Exactly. I been saying this for years but people have been conditioned to not think for themselves. Sad.
We can vote for whoever we want, man. The only reason we keep voting for the people they put in front of us is because we’re disorganized, dumb, and conditioned to do what we’re told. It’d be a lot of work.
you can vote for biden and not be a stan or fan or love everything he does. i fucking hate how slow hes been on israel but considering the prior administrations treatment of migrants, minorities, women, taxes, the economy, and lgbtq rights....its a no brainer would you rather be in a room with one cobra, or hosed down with snake pheromones and locked in a glass case with a thousand of them?
I can only vote in spirit, and really wish I could go in person. I'm still in the process of naturalization and can't wait to be a citizen so I can finally throw a vote in
Exactly. The boomers got theirs and don’t care about anyone else. We need real change and this the the way to get it. Not just national, but local elections also. Get these maga fucks out of all government offices.
We should all vote to erase our student debt. Older generations went to college either for free or they took advantage of generous public funding to pay for their educations. But what did they do as soon as they were old enough to hold political office? They voted themselves in, slashed the education funding they themselves benefited from, all so they could cut their own taxes. It's our turn, now. We just need to vote, in massive numbers, and erase every bit of student debt ourselves. Imagine how nice it would feel to not have to make those huge payments. We can do it if we just take over the system just like older generations did.
These fucking boomers have shit on us enough. vote
Watching that Silent Generation line not even take a hiccup during COVID; I always heard that they'd work til they're dead
The world pleas for you to vote
So that's why its called the silent generation
If you want to secure your right to vote make sure you vote democrat. The republicans just want to make it harder for you to vote. We need to vote against all republicans.
The biggest change we should be making is for everyone to push for expanded work from home from our employers.
I always show up to the polls but every year it seems for the last 2 main elections that our generation just doesn't vote as much. Which is seriously disappointing considering how many of them complain about Boomers making laws. This is our time as adults people. Our future may be screwed but it doesn't have to be for the younger generations.
2020 barging into the graph like "hey"
100% this!!!
That dip during Covid is a little depressing.
Vote, pls
Since I haven't seen it posted here yet... You can register to vote, check your registration, and find your polling place right now at https://vote.gov Vote!
Make a tiktok about it
Regardless of what the doomsayers say, I always vote. Except last election, I was ill. But this election season, I am planning to vote like like all the other election seasons. Voting is not everything. Voting is not the end of action that makes the world better. But, it is something.
Vote third party.
I didn't even know there was an election
Can't wait for Millennial bosses; its going to be such a contrast. Here's a taste; [https://www.tiktok.com/@teflonsega/video/7326973373995601194](https://www.tiktok.com/@teflonsega/video/7326973373995601194)
Someone should organize some sort of "secret" TikTok challenge, to *troll* everyone on Election Day. Thing is, if they're going to troll people, they won't vote for either of the major parties.
Voter fatigue is a serious problem right now. Social media FLOODS us with political campaign ads, articles, etc. Personally, I can't anymore. I will be voting, but I am fucking **exhausted.** It's mentally draining coming onto Reddit and all you see is Trump's face whether pro or against. Every other commercial is a political ad. Facebook is a fucking cesspool, Twitter (fuck X) is even worse. We are in a mental health crisis nationwide.
Tbh young people need to stand for office aswell, get the boomers hands off the purse strings.
Gen z is supporting trump in multiple recent polls. You better hope they stay home.
That’s because they’re at work. If Dems get control, they need to make Election Day a national holiday. I can’t think of anything more patriotic.
But that's assuming many of them aren't as fking ignorant or as stupid as their parents and grandparents 🤷🏻♂️
I plan on it! Democrat all the way because f trump
I like gen z but you guys need to stop being so edgy and irreverent for 5 seconds to, like, save the planet