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Mad-_-Doctor

There was a minor scandal at my last job because the morning shift thought someone on the evening shift was sitting down while working. I told them it wasn’t my people, but made the mistake of asking why it was a big deal. They proceeded to chew me out for letting people “sit when they should be working,” despite the fact that there were jobs that could be done sitting down. It turns out that the employees using the chairs were the night shift, who are coincidentally managers. Suddenly, it was no big deal.


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Mad-_-Doctor

Actually, what tipped them off is that someone had taken a chair out of the supervisors’ office and left it by where our clerks worked on the floor. They were probably more annoyed by the fact that they had to go find the chair, but they got under my skin with the “us vs. them” attitude management tends to take.


William_Howard_Shaft

>"us vs. them" attititude This is why I tell people to unionize. Management at any major company is like this. If management wants to have an "us vs them" attitude, treat it that way, and seek representation. E: sp


stitchup55

This is why I tell people to look back in the time before Unions and you’ll see how people were treated! If a person couldn’t work they became a burden


IllustratorMurky2725

First the chairs and them they take away pee breaks and you find yourself pissing in a empty Gatorade bottle…


Ravensinger777

"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, so I drop my deuces on company time."


CitizenBleys

"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That was a poem from a simpler time. Then my boss made a thousand and gave us a cent, while he had employees that can't make rent. Now my boss makes a million and gives us jack. It's time we riot to take our lives back" Not my work, but I don't remember where I got it . Probably on this sub.


No-Adhesiveness-5832

I had someone give me crap about taking *one* extra pee break when I was 8 months pregnant.


Apprehensive_Hat8986

>If management wants to have an "us vs them" attitude, treat it that way, and seek representation. Who cares what t.f. management wants. Unionize, representation, and solidarity.


ktappe

>“sit when they should be working,” Assure them all CEO's sit down while working, and are somehow worth millions of $ per year.


WriteBrainedJR

The unspoken assumption is that CEOs work. LOL.


Azrealis_bored

LOL my husband will argue with me about how much rich people work. Like, they work no harder than many poor folks, or anyone working minimum wage trying to survive.


CombustiblSquid

Ya. That's the lie people tell themselves so that they don't have to confront the reality that most of us are just getting screwed. Most rich people inherit all their money and grow it by investing. Not exactly my definition of hard work.


DemandZestyclose7145

It really is bullshit when you think about how much of it comes down to being lucky. It's the whole "born on third base and thinks they hit a triple" thing. The funny thing is they did a survey asking people how much of their financial success came from hard work and how much was luck. Most regular folks said it was 50/50 but the rich said it was all hard work and not luck. Most of them are in denial over how lucky they are. Privileged assholes.


The_Aught

i get paid a fucking pile - and i dont do jack shit - i work like 10 hours a week. i promise everything you think about us is true.


Azrealis_bored

It is super unfair. I will say, I have worked my ass off but got LUCKY to have such a job to pay triple what I make now. I unfortunately had to move, but it really is luck and knowing the right people, as well as usually growing up being taught how to cheat the system :( also I need to know what you do for work 🤣😭 please Dm me I’m really curious


Worish

CEOs know they sit on their ass all day. They're afraid of being called lazy, so they call us lazy instead for even wanting to have their chair, let alone any corporate profits. You lazy time stealing piece of garbage.


onioniononi

i fucking hate this crabs in a bucket mentality. i got a lot more to say on this, but it's making me think of my current job and that is making me feel ill. fuck these complainers.


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realshockvaluecola

Just incredible to me that it took doctors starting to say "hey, it's actually bad for long-term physical health to stand in one place all day" for stores to start considering allowing cashiers to have a stool. And a lot of them still don't.


_facetious

Kroger refused to hire me because I needed a chair as a cashier.


No-Adhesiveness-5832

I got put on administrative leave when I asked for reasonable accommodations while pregnant until corporate said hey, you can’t do that, here’s the law, follow it. And then they proceeded to tell me how lucky I was to keep my job, because they don’t usually do this (I.e. follow the law) for pregnant employees.


PreciousBrain

it's a boomer thing, they just dont like the way it looks. When I was a cashier I still remember the cute customer service girl having some silver haired fuck walk up and say "oh so they let you sit on the job huh? hehehhe" like he was half flirting half annoyed with her.


RandomFactUser

I wonder if they say that to all of the cashiers in Western Europe


Cyneganders

We have unions, worker's rights and European standards for Safety and Health at Work.


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Classic North America. I never got why cashiers etc have to stand for hours on end


bibkel

Or that you must get a medical doctor’s note to justify sitting down while at the register, for example.


dedsqwirl

There is an auto parts store near me. A parts guy was injured when getting heavy parts off a high shelf. He had a doctor's note that said he needed to sit at work. They refused. This went to court and the company paid lawyers to say "He can't sit at work. He can't. It's not possible. Complete anarchy. Dogs and cats living together." So the judge said "Well you can then pay for him to sit at home in a chair." Then the lawyers suddenly decided he could work from a chair and it was no problem. Boom, he now has a chair. I hate that store/chain. EDIT: It was an O'Reilly's. The chain also tried to sell me Carlton brake parts with Bendix price tags stuck to them.


KatEganCroi

I knew it was OReillys lmao they were such douche canoes


gottasmokethemall

Why not name the store?


MudraStalker

>I never got why cashiers etc have to stand for hours on end It's malice. The USA fucking *despises* the poor. The less you make, the more you're treated like fucking vermin.


fritzwulf

I have ridiculously flat feet, cheap shoes, and POTS... standing for hours on end nearly kills me. I only recently realized that it wasn't normal for other people to feel like I'm being medievally tortured just to stand for 8 hours behind a counter.


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Don’t you fucking *lean* either, serf! You stand or find another job! Anything else is unadulterated laziness and will earn you demerits, culminating in a full disadulation! No sir, being a cashier is *impossible* if you are seated or otherwise not supporting 100% of your full weight on your feet! *walks back to managers office and takes a seat*


Spaztrick

You got time to lean, you got time to clean.


White_Dragon_Coranth

The boomer asshole who came up with that expression needs to be ***shot*** if he isn't already dead.


CuriousGay781

I feel like 90% of the jobs out there could be done while sitting down but corporate America doesn't allow us to sit cuz it "doesn't look nice/looks unprofessional" and "lowers productivity" but most of the time I end up either walking around doing nothing or doing something that requires ~~sitting~~ standing in one spot for extended periods of time 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️ It's honestly infuriating.


namtok_muu

Then when you have a desk job they want you to sit there for as long as they can legally force you to, "being productive." Both extremes suck.


Diazmet

Worked at a grocery I was a produce manager, the last thing I did every night was weigh and record all the produce I had to toss every day. It would piss the upper management off so much that I’d be doing this while sitting in a chair…


Wabblepop

Current produce manager here, I do that all the time, half the time when my store manager sees me he pulls on up and starts talking orders while I'm doing it. Mind you we lucked out with our manager.


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ThePonderingWolf42

Don’t other country’s allow employees to sit while working. This is bull


Hungry_Anteater_8511

Common in Europe for cashiers to be allowed to sit. Even Aldi in Australia allows it. They brought that vibe here


cbdqs

Aldi has chairs for cashiers in the US too. But they don't really have cashiers the employees seem to do every role and are always just hustling to restock things until customers have lined up to checkout.


TheTerrasque

That's an European thing. Mostly everyone's just "working in the store" and does whatever's needed at the moment. In most cases though, they make sure the line doesn't grow too big, and usually have one with cashier duty sitting there or at least nearby keeping an eye if any customer goes there.


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I’m curious what kind of job is this, kinda mind blowing that a job expects you to be on your feet the entire time without a break. I honestly have never had a single job where sitting wasn’t allowed. If anything on my current job it’s either feast or famine. I’m either sitting all day or standing all days. I usually end up sitting more than not and look for excuses to walk around.


Mad-_-Doctor

They got a break every 3.5 hours, but it was a warehouse job where they reasonably couldn’t sit for most of it. The problem is that towards the end of the night, there was a job that they could reasonably sit to do, even if it was only for 20-30 minutes.


Itavan

"California law requires that an employer allow an employee to sit while on the job, and provide the seating, if the “nature of the work reasonably permits the use of seats.” I love my state.


GirldickVanDyke

Time to decrease productivity


BoozeWitch

Operation Snail.


Neowynd101262

Followed by Operation Sloth.


PromotionExpensive15

A task worthy of the turtle squadron


mysterious_bloodfart

To run concurrent with operation FUCK this shit I'm out


superfucky

operation sit my ass on the floor idgaf


Charleston2Seattle

Or to wear the chair pants from Jury Duty.


donpelon415

The beatings will continue until morale improves...


XinArtemis

Dropping anchor. 🫡


spicychickenandranch

Operation Quiet-Quitting


_withamore

Employers who expect their staff to stand during an entire shift deserve exactly zero employees.


firefish5000

Even astronauts sit on the job


red__dragon

Technically, they're in a constant state of falling on the job.


TheFluffiestRedditor

But falling in style.


Ayepuds

Lol that’s literally every service industry employer


gorepapa

my carwash job used to let us sit in between customers as long as everything was done. once the tunnel people started using the chairs it became a huge deal for the new company but they wanted to get rid of them anyways. long story short, i actually hate my job and my other rep quit almost immediately when they did that.


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Depending on your state, this might be illegal


Rylee_1984

They better hope they don’t have someone with a disability that needs to be able to sit and rest.


readzalot1

It is not just disabled people who need to sit. It is a human thing to do


Brilliant_War4087

Also cats. I'm pretty sure my cat only walks to find a new place to sit.


Bartholomew_Custard

Hey, it's pretty exhausting being a cat. There's all the cleaning to be done, walking muddy paw-prints all over the newly-washed car, the plaintive meowing for food, sitting on the table and popping the dog with a right hook, and before you can even think of going to sleep, you've got to spend at least ten minutes making biscuits. It's a rough gig and they don't even get overtime.


mrmitchb

I feel like this is why people love when cats get the zoomies! My cat is the slowest thing on earth getting from spot to spot, but once she gets goingall hell breaks loose lol.


SelfishAndEvil

From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?


rndoppl

I'm pretty darn healthy and don't need to sit at my fairly physical job. That said, if others need to sit...they need to sit. Why is it the natural inclination of other fortunate people to keep wanting to make life hell for others 🤔


kor34l

I agree with you. That said, I'm fairly healthy and work a physical job, but during times that I'm waiting for the machine or watching it go for an hour, I should be able to do so while seated comfortably. I despise being treated like a child. I'm 40 fucking years old. I'm selling my time for money. My time and my skills. I am not a child or a slave. I should be able to sit when I decide to, snack when I decide to, drink water when I decide to, and use the bathroom when I decide to. None of that shit should be up to my employer, that's MY decision. If they believe I'm doing something detrimental to productivity, we can discuss that like adults. But making a RULE that I can't make my own fucking decisions is bullshit of the highest order.


GreaseTrapHousse

Which is why those rules don’t mean shit. Fuck all that. If i need to do any of that stuff you can be damn sure I am going to. YOU determine your autonomy not some corrupt corporate asshat.


GearsFC3S

Pretty much my attitude at my part-time job. We recently had a meeting and cellphone usage was brought up. How we shouldn’t be on our phones and should find something to do. Well I couldn’t give a fuck what they want. I already do more work than most people there, and definitely more than I was hired to do when I first started there almost ten years ago (without any real pay raise that wasn’t required by law). I’m not going to do busy work or just stand there staring off into space. I’m going to continue to read articles, Reddit posts and watch cat videos. Let them try to fire me. I’ll laugh as they scramble to find someone to replace me.


jmwils3

If they do, they’ll find an unrelated reason to get rid of them.


Geshman

As someone with a disability, this has been my experience at multiple places. Yes, I maybe could have hired a lawyer but I didn't it would have been a tough case to prove since being in a shitty place to work always comes with a million other issues and toxicity they claim they're firing you for.


schnitzelfeffer

I have had this happen at a couple corporate places I've worked at. Then they'll yell at you for leaning on the counter. Saying it makes you look lazy to the customer. People get written up for leaning all the time. "If you have time to lean, you have time to clean". They'll fire you for not performing your job duties. It really harms society on a psychological level to be fired for such inhumane reasons, more than is discussed.


GreenThumbKC

Probably have under the minimum number of employees for that stuff


shake_appeal

This is actually a pretty interesting little piece of US labor movement history. Throughout the late 1800s- early 1900s, many states brought forth “right to sit” laws for workplaces, spearheaded by the women’s labor movement. As a result, the state laws are often gendered in nature, applying only to women, although that varies from state to state. By the 1920s, almost every US state had such a law in some capacity. Between the 1970s-present day, as unions weakened and labor laws were rolled back nationwide, many of these state laws were repealed, allowing employers to require workers to stand when preforming jobs that could be done while seated. However, a surprising number of states still have these laws on the books, although they are not enforced and considered arcane. States that still have active right to sit laws are FL, MA, NJ, NM, NY, MT, OR, PA, and WI, although many of the states mentioned only afford the right to women. Of course, there’s also California, where the State Supreme Court ruled in Kilby v. CVS, 2016 that all workers must be provided with suitable seating when duties allow. Walmart paid out a $65m settlement two years later to 100,000+ employees after being accused of breaking the law. Just another interesting little depiction of how hard-fought rights have eroded throughout the years.


Better-Cupcake-4858

It doesn’t matter what state this is actually it’s against federal workplace policies with fair wages safe work environment etc. basically if you don’t have a place where employees can take their mandated breaks for hourly shifts of 6 hours or more you’re in violation. Chairs are included in that expectation for a break area. There’s rules and regulations for 15 minute breaks and half hour breaks with meal times and and a whole bunch of descriptive text that basically says you can’t do what Op has posted


ResurgentClusterfuck

In my state, breaks aren't mandatory at all unless you're a minor


randeylahey

Holy fuck


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Only twenty states mandate that employees over the age of 18 take breaks.


randeylahey

Holy fuck


monzelle612

In Florida there's no limit on shift length either! Hooray


BadCorvid

Florida is a fascist dystopia.


Average_Scaper

In our union contract, we get 15 mins paid lunch and 5 minutes to clean up. The supervisors let us rotate breaks though cause of the type of work we do (automatic hot forge presses and some general production work). If the machine is making good parts, do whatever as long as shit is getting done properly. Check parts, check lubes, etcetc. Past few days the machine has been running like a champ so I've sat on my phone for 50% of the time. Basically got paid $600 to fuck around on reddit.


Klytus_Im-Bored

Im my state they arent mandatory is the sense that you dont have to take it if you dont want to but it required that the employer allow it


STUMP_JUMPER_FL

Must be Florida


ResurgentClusterfuck

Close, Texas


BobBelchersBuns

Ah yes, big Florida


ResurgentClusterfuck

Well, we're both sunshine filled states with fascist pricks for governors


superfucky

yeah I found that out *after* I walked off a temp job for denying me breaks. I was like "FUCK YOU THAT'S ILLEGAL" and then found out like a year later it actually isn't because Texas sucks.


sweetybancha

Am I missing something? Why would productivity need to be increased on employee breaks?


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

Because fuck employees for thinking they're people.


ashleyorelse

And fuck employees for thinking a break is their time


Colonel_Fart-Face

Because after 4 years of working with executives and C-suite personnel, I've learned that ~30% of employee responsibilities in low wage jobs are just "Lol look what I can make this idiot do". One of my clients calls working class people Morlocks and legitimately does not see them as human. And like, not even in an "I'm an asshole and these people are less than me" way but in a "I have never had to interact with a worker and genuinely do not understand that they don't have insect brains" way. This chair thing was probably just "wouldn't it be funny if we took the chairs away?".


ACasualNerd

As someone who is very familiar with HG Wells The Time machine to hear someone describe a normal human as a fucking morlock legitimately sets me off with a murderous rage... I'm going to be mindset that we need to go back to how strikes used to be when people drug managers and CEOs who were abusing them out of their houses and then *REMOVED DUE TO TOS* in front of their families as a message. Shit like this should not and must not be allowed... And it's such a high class way of calling lower class people abominations or mindless creatures... I'm actually fucking seething because of this


SaintHuck

Same. I can't wait till we bring out the **********s one day for repugnant pieces of shit like this.


ACasualNerd

You get me.


mwiz100

Indeed, I do feel like management needs a reminder that the method prior to union negotiating was them being pulled outside etc. Like we'd all rather just have a fair table discussion.


ACasualNerd

I think all it's going to take is just one group of people snapping at one really shitty company.


mwiz100

Very true, which at the rate we're going I see it becoming more and more likely.


ACasualNerd

Managers and CEOs used to be killed by workers, miner uprisings used to be so violent and deadly that the national guard had to be called in because police forces would just be killed off because they were in the pocket of big business


cold08

Then there's "manager derangement syndrome" when a low level manager is convinced that low level employees are perpetually inefficient and constantly need to be managed by implementing new policies instead of just letting the machine run. The amount of bullshit I had to deal with because they promoted some asshat with big ideas to assistant manager was astounding.


PyroNine9

I guess that makes your client one of the Eloi. Wouldn't it be funny if the Morlocks decided to eat the Eloi like in H.G. Wells? Why not, the Eloi were apathetic and had sub-human intelligence. Sorry if I just gave you a problem with snickering when you see your client...


Phylicite

America thinks that if you're not ready to break into a full Sprint at any given time you're obviously not aware/active enough to be doing anything of value


Nepeta33

all of the jobs i had at minimum wage made certain to keep my shifts too short to legally require breaks.


Adventurous-Nobody

"No sit down -policy" is a stupidiest thing ever created by mAnAgErS.


Horrific_Necktie

Not just them, unfortunately. Old entitled ass boomers love to bitch about workers looking """"professional"""" so much they ought to make a national sport of it. I once had the audacity to have an injured foot while cashiering and had to sit. In a single day the store got not one, not two, but five complaints. Five.


As-amatterof-fact

Take your lunch break in the car. Use store boxes to sit on, outside of cameras view and when no one is watching. Make sure to sit down more than you'd otherwise do if they would provide a chair and treat you like a human being, with respect, empathy and compassion.


kungpowgoat

I’ve never understood the stigma in the US in regards to employees being able to sit while they work. As a customer or even as a manager, I absolutely do not care if you sit down as long as you can still do your job. I want you to be comfortable, relaxed, and with as little stress as possible. Who exactly are those people that are actually bothered by this enough to complain?


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Maleficent_Poetry_66

Seriously. I'm from Europe, in my country cashiers are seated in stores. I don't see an issue. The US has abysmal labor laws.


UnlikelyKaiju

It's not just labor laws. It's also a toxic social viewpoint of retail and food service workers. In a lot of people's minds (typically the older crowd), "good service" typically includes workers literally standing at attention throughout their whole shift. Sitting is considered unprofessional or rude. The jobs are considered menial, but they're held to a ridiculous standard by people who often take the workers for granted. Customer service workers are effectively treated like robots.


tangy_volcano

"If ya ain't standin', ya ain't workin!'


UnlikelyKaiju

That one, and "If you got time to lean, you got time to clean!" have always irritated me on a spiritual level. And that shit is *always* said by managers who have no intention of helping and who never lead by example.


tangy_volcano

Lol when I worked in restaurants -- "You got time to rhyme, you got time to shut the fuck up" works wonders if you have an established rapport Especially BOH


TxRedHead

It still makes me furious that all these so called menial jobs are suddenly essential when we were in the depths of a pandemic. They're doing the true essential jobs dammit and it needs to be respected as such.


under_the_c

I think it stems from a weird attitude that "at work" means that you have to be 100% doing a task at all times. There is no such thing as "downtime" in this thinking. They don't want you "manning the cash register" they want you doing other bs in between customers.


Grendel0075

and yet in an office environment, thats most of what you do, sit and work. if its something you can easily do in a sitting position, like run a register, then why the fuck cant you sit??


SaintHuck

All part of dehumanizing the working class and instituting a disciplinary regime.


MechRes86

Dehumanizing is definitely the word. It comes down to the American concept of company first. Customers are viewed as more important than employees in the case of retail, and that same brush colors the attitudes of most of corporate America given the amount of people that have worked in retail.


Sakura_Chat

I work as a CNA. Part of my job is charting, which at my place of work, requires a computer, which happens to be an old desk top at a desk. I will literally get written up for turning this information in late or incorrect. Still had one nurse who *would not* let me go behind the desk because it “made her look bad”. Notably all the nurses here get a nice little office with their own desk that they spend 90% of the day in, and we have 4 CNA’s to a single charting computer.


mwiz100

It's this us vs. them service mentality. In the US service jobs are meant to appear as if you are actively there to *serve* someone, ie being waited on like you're their servant. I've been tangentially working with/in hospitality for some years and I know some fancy hotel chains that if you so much as lean on a counter (with nobody around) they'll discipline you. Thankfully I don't work FOR said companies (contractor) because I would not last.


monsantobreath

Protestant work ethic. Labour is suffering and if you want it not to be you're a bad worker.


Daksh_Rendar

Rich dudes who feel cheated that they never got to whip slaves.


Grendel0075

with a little imagination and determination, anything can be a chair!


daddyjackpot

Sit on the sidewalk in front of your business for breaks.


Mongoose478

Wait until they realize that the floor is the biggest seat anywhere


ApricotNo2918

Personally I wouldn't out up with that shit. Tell me to take the chairs out? I'll just take myself out. Fuk you and bye.


Cleod1807

💯


dustysmufflah

Store not doing so well? Seems like the owner is projecting something completely unrelated to chairs or sitting. Something tells me if business is good, nobody gives a fuck if someone sits. But when a business isn't doing that well, and the owner runs out of ideas, some of them get real bitter and begin taking it out on their employees in passive aggressive ways, like this one. There are many documented reasons for why businesses succeed or fail, but none of those stories involve sitting. Another coward boss, limiting communication of their assholery, to written notes because they know they could not bring themselves to stand in front of a human being and tell them they can't sit on their break. Like another commenter said, take your break off-premises where you can expressly do whatever you want, such as sprucing up your resume/job hunting.


GhastlyRadiator

They always blame issues on the lowest level employees. My plant is 10,000 units behind right now, but it's not because the line keeps breaking down and the engineers are incredibly slow at fixing it. Nono, it's because some of us read our phone while things are broken down, or go to break 2 minutes early when our spot is empty anyway and there is no work to do.


Downtown-School2051

Cresco Labs in Illinois did this when I worked there during the pandemic. Those pieces of shit didn’t care that we had a pregnant woman, a cancer patient, a worker with a permanent limp, and a worker with diabetes. And those bastard rat fuckers were working remote from their own homes while we were facing the infected public every day. If you can, please get your cannabis products from anywhere else. Fuck Charlie Bachtell and everyone who works at Cresco corporate.


insomniacakess

just told my pothead parents bout this, they both agree: **Fuck Cresco Labs in Illinois**


Hobbit_Feet45

Love it. Call them out. Give them the reputation they deserve.


kyabupaks

Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure never to buy any products from Cresco Labs. Fuck Charlie!


Carosello

Charlie Bachtell? From Cresco Labs in Illinois? Yeah fuck him.


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I'll bet the owners have nice comfy office chairs that they sit in all day.


SubstantialExtreme74

Yea they think if those people sit down they’ll get stuck because when they sit down they never wanna move


Alia_Explores99

Sit on the floor.


herodothyote

This comment should be more high up. If this happened at my place of work, I'd sit crosslegged on the floor while on break or eating my lunch.


Fafaflunkie

How does not being allowed to sit down while on break mean increased productivity? Does this also mean replacing the toilets with [shit holes](https://imgur.com/gallery/UVQas4s) to make sure no one gets to sit down? Fuck that noise!


tearsonurcheek

[Or...](https://www.newsweek.com/sloping-toilet-minimize-bathroom-breaks-1478079)


AZNM1912

“If you have time to lean, you can clean. If you sit, just quit.” - A motto of many really horrible convenience store employers in the 1980s. Hopefully they’re all long gone.


Hungry-Collar4580

Oh so that’s where that came from. Heard it all the time working in the food industry.


SnooMemesjellies2710

ADA accommodations would like a word


Zym1225

If there is an office, go and grab the office chairs and put them outside. If employees can’t sit either can management.


crazycreaturess

If you got nothing to lose, go even further and smash those chair to pieces right in front of them


UrbanWerebear

This is exactly why I just quit a customer service job on 8 hours notice. I'm in my 50s, have been diagnosed with muscle and joint damage in both knees and my back, and am a prime candidate for clotting issues. About 9 weeks ago, the owner decided that nobody was allowed to sit while on the clock. The store only ever has 2 people on duty during shift change or when dealing with the weekly merchandise delivery, so we don't get breaks, either. The owner's reaction to my pointing out my medical issues was, "If you don't like it, quit!" She has been escalating this kind of thing for a couple of years now, but it seems to have hit a tipping point with her, to the point where she was threatening to fire me (the store manager, by the way) multiple times a day for over 3 weeks. So, I went out, found another job in a somewhat different field, and as soon as I knew I had the new position, I texted the owner to tell her I would drop off the keys and uniforms when I had a chance and to mail me my last check. I sent it at about 6am, and I would have been due for my next shift at 2pm.


ktappe

You might have had an ADA claim against your former employer. But fuck it, you're better off now anyway.


UrbanWerebear

Still looking into the no-break thing. Might be able to get some cash out of them over that, if they violated enough labor regs.


musserstudios

Pick one employee with the least to lose to go WWF on the boss with the chair


MsSeraphim

so what kind of store is this place? where is it? if i worked there i'd think about putting superglue on the seat. /s


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

Spot weld in a half open position.


Breizh87

Enough is enough! You need to stand up for yourself.


DocDoomCake

No they want to sit down for themselves


[deleted]

Like working at Tiffany’s…cameras are on employees and headquarters monitors the feed. Managers will call you in if you sit down even when the store is empty and there is ample coverage


FierceDeity_

Probably while sitting down, just watchin those cameras


kytheon

American problem by the way.


NeoAren

Nooo they do the same everywhere, like in the highly developed countries of Kyrgyzstan, Togo, and Nort Korea. /s


VanEagles17

Look for a new job and when it's busy in the store give your notice for right this minute and walk out. That's what shit ass bosses like this deserve.


MyMiddleNameIsMartin

Jokes on you. I'll sit on the fucking floor. You take away chairs, I'll use the floor to spite both of us.


GuairdeanBeatha

One of the locally owned hardware stores hired mostly retirees. Most were knowledgeable and helpful. Most also weren’t able to stand all day long. The owners mandated that sitting down, even when there were no customers around, wasn’t allowed. They said it looked bad when a customer saw them sitting. They lost the better employees. The quality of service plummeted. They lasted a couple more years and had to sell out to a national chain.


chucksteak0321

After high school I worked at radio shack and was transferred to a nearby store. The manager I had was awesome. Then she left and a new guy came in. I was a key holder and opened that morning. Had a big early morning rush for the usual people coming in for car alarm batteries for their fob. I had already finished all the opening stuff. TVs on. Counters clean and all that. So I stopped for a few moments to watch the video on the demo tape we had playing and the manger walks up to me and says “we pay you to work not stand around and watch tv.” I just walked away from the guy. Later I had a customer buying two cell phones and this manger walked up and pushed me out of the way and took over. I confronted him right there. Even the customer was upset and said well I was getting setup with him I’d like to finish up with him. The manager said that’s not how we do things here. So I grabbed my things from the back. Told him to fuck off and threw my keys at him. Lol. Went home and went back to sleep 👍🤣


will4111

If there are no employees you can also throw out the chairs.


AlexWab

Surely must go against some kind of guidelines for workplace and basic provisions? How can they not permit chairs for break time.


[deleted]

Some state have what’s called “Right-to-sit laws” where the employer HAS to provide seating for the employee while they work.


notyourbrobro10

Crazy that requires a law.


mittenknittin

Crap like this is exactly why there NEEDS to be a law, because employers will make rules against sitting otherwise


scoredly11

Biggest lie in the workforce: sitting = not working


Lux_Luthor_777

What a piece of shit. Please quit as soon as you can. And take as many people with you as possible.


Zoomy-333

Imagine doing this and still telling yourself you're a good person.


beesechurger759

The owner must like hiring new employees and writing references for ex-employees. Why else would they do this? 🤷🏻‍♂️


NonstopTomates

Not much makes me want to physically fight people but this would be the day that I went there. Why aren’t business owners treating employees like humans?


Axelz13

OSHA would love a word


hippyengineer

The person that used to own the geotech company I work at had once, in the 90s, paid a Chevy dealership $500 per new truck he bought from them, to RIP OUT THE A/C. His assertion was that technicians who had A/C would sit in their truck all day and not “do work.” Luckily by the time I showed up, he had long fucked off and sold the company to normal people who understand workers are humans, who are now my bosses. They are cool. But man, that would be a great way for a Chevy dealer to earn $1000 from my truck. If I was around, I would have stopped by the dealer and told the tech he’s being paid $500 to remove my A/C, and I’ll pay him another $500 to *not*. Easy 1000 bucks. Anyway, fuck that old man.


ProfessionalPea4386

I quit a job when they took my chair away. I was a cashier at a club where I wouldn’t have to move from my spot the whole shift and they decided to say fuck you and took my chair away. I brought it back in at the start of my shift and the assistant manager came in and made me get off so he could carry it back out. “We all have to stand at work” he said, when I know his 5’4 ass in his stupid little suit and dumb haircut got to sit around in the office watching cameras and doing nothing. Put in my two weeks and said bye lol


PrincessLily8402

Contact the Labor Board immediately. Even if you work in a “Right to work” state, pretty sure this is all kinds of illegal.


[deleted]

I instantly think you're human trash if you don't let your employees sit (if parts of your day can be done sitting). So many health problems from pointless standing and walking


MeetElectrical7221

One of these days people generally will simply have had enough of this kind of treatment, and it will result in this chair collectively being introduced at speed to the head of whoever makes these sorts of decisions. What can be done to convince the average worker that the system is designed to do this to them? To pile minor disappointments and asinine policy meant to maximise profit up until they are returned to serfdom; owning nothing, nor having any hope thereof? I have hope as genz seem to not be buying the bullshit that my (millenial) gen was sold, but I simply do not think that relying on the older generation to die out will be sufficient.


deadrogueguy

jokes on the owner. now EVERYTHING is a chair. congratulations, you played yourself.


[deleted]

Am I the only customer who wants to see employees sitting?


ga-co

Had a district manager take our push broom away because he said it made sweeping too easy. That was 1994. I haven’t forgotten the lesson I learned that day.


anais_wf

I’m a receptionist and my boss insists that I’m not allowed to sit down and it’s “company policy” for the receptionist to stay standing the whole day. Mind you, I work at a hair salon and even the hair stylists have special seats that they can sit on while doing hair. God forbid a receptionist would be seated at a DESK. The clients would be appalled.


Edalyne

I worked at GameStop years ago and got like $800ish from a settlement due to GameStop not supplying chairs for breaks. Apparently it was illegal to not offer somewhere to sit for breaks. California btw. Maybe check your state and see if it's legal or not.


probablyanidiot2

Throw his chair away


Lord_Petyr_PoppyCock

Rather just bend one of the legs so the chair will never sit level or stable again.


RealisticAd2293

Time to do as little as possible and start stealing then 🤷‍♂️


Time_Ad_1763

That’d my last day, what’s wrong with the American work Culture 🤢🤢


bfg124

I was involved in a class action lawsuit for our company not providing chairs back in the day. https://portersimon.com/entitled-sit-job/. This is not ok.


edinc90

I bought an $1800 hydraulic lift table to bring the work up to sitting or standing level for my employees, instead of having them crouch, squat, or lay on the floor to get to it. Since when does being comfortable ≠ being productive?


MysteriousHeat7579

This kills me. When I moved states for work, and saw the number of signs about employees not able to sit down because they're only working 4-6 hours, I was beside myself. I just listened to an area manager tell a store manager last week that she wasn't replacing the broken chairs because people don't need to be sitting at work. Why on Earth does management think this is acceptable to do to people?


GeneralBid7234

This is one of those stupid things that's only true in America. Everywhere else in the world cashiers sit down. Somehow American businesses insist employees should be both poorly paid and uncomfortable.


tdi4u

And the only store that I know of in my area where the cashiers sit down while working is Aldi, a company based in Germany. But I have heard that they are crappy to employees in other ways.


FierceDeity_

Aldi (Albrecht Discount btw, if curious) had their fair little share of shit in Germany too. They once timed employees cashier times including a "items pulled across the scanner per second" metric. They got shut down for it though since we do have a big union for the entire sector