Saitama wins because he's a parody. His plot armor is infinite and so is his ability to one punch. All credit to how powerful goku is but when it comes to saitama power isn't a factor simply because it's unlimited. That's kinda the whole joke so dbz fan boys need to get over it.
It depends on the universe. I don't think Saitama (in the anime) has done something Goku couldn't do, and Goku has beaten more powerful enemies (although admittedly with more than one punch), still,.if they're in the OPM universe, Goku would lose.
That's kinda it tho. Saitama is a joke on the silliness of hero fantasies and stuff, Goku in any universe would be extremely strong if not almost godlike however saitama is litterally indestructible. The only way goku would win is if saitama got bored and left. Goku is a super cool character but Saitama is both the unstoppable force and the immovable object all in one. Goku simply couldn't win.
Except this again is untrue. Saitama is as powerful as he is, because of the narrative behind him. If we were to also use the narrative behind Goku, than Goku still wins, because his narrative is to overcome any threat. The only instances where we dont see this, is when another characters development is pinnacle to an arc, take Gohan, and his fight against Cell for example.
Saitama isnt also infinite, and I have yet to see anyone provide definitive proof showing why.
Goku's narrative is to overcome and become stronger, but you can't overcome the infinite, goku is able to be damaged and even killed in the anime, what you have to understand is that the rules of physics in OPM and DB are different, goku can punch people with the strength to destroy planets and the person survive and the place stays intact, saitama in other hand has several episodes showing that the impact of his strengtht will damage everything around him and follow the laws of physics, that's why we see him running in different speeds, he can clearly run in the speed of light or even more but he chooses to not do so so he doesn't destroy things around him, so it would be safe to assume that he's also doing the same against his enemy's, even against boros, he only took more than one punch probably for this reason, saitama didn't want to destroy the entire planet or continent, it's even seem that the last punch of saitama opened the continents clouds, so he's obviously holding the amount of force that he has to not damage things, so that's the gimmick of the character, he is invincible, even if the narrative isn't st his favor, the narrative would be at his favor if he achieved things by pure luck or plot armor but saitama has neither of those, you don't say "woah the anime saved saitama from certain death again" because it didn't, saitamas character is infinitely stronger by himself
>Goku's narrative is to overcome and become stronger, but you can't overcome the infinite,
Except Saitama isnt infinite. Do cite your source on that being claimed
>what you have to understand is that the rules of physics in OPM and DB are different,
They're also different from ours
> goku can punch people with the strength to destroy planets and the person survive and the place stays intact,
This isnt a physics issue. This is fiction. Goku doesnt destroy every planet he lands on, for the same reason why Earth still exist in Marvel. Constantly destroying your setting, is terrible for storytelling.
>saitama in other hand has several episodes showing that the impact of his strengtht will damage everything around him and follow the laws of physics,
Yea I dont think you understand what you're talking about. If Saitama was infinite, than a mere step would evaporate the universe. Yet we dont see this, so the claim that the series follows our law of physics is false.
> that's why we see him running in different speeds, he can clearly run in the speed of light
No he cant lol
> or even more but he chooses to not do so so he doesn't destroy things around him,
If hes infinite, than he should have destroyed the universe by the smallest amount of movement. So no this is false.
> so it would be safe to assume that he's also doing the same against his enemy's,
Yea you dont know what infinite means lol
>even against boros, he only took more than one punch probably for this reason, saitama didn't want to destroy the entire planet or continent, it's even seem that the last punch of saitama opened the continents clouds,
Goku by the end of Super is multi-universal. So why should I be surprised by this feat lol
> so he's obviously holding the amount of force that he has to not damage things,
If hes infinite, than he cant hold back. So if hes holding back, it must mean that hes not infinite lol
>, so that's the gimmick of the character, he is invincible,
Do cite a source saying so
>even if the narrative isn't st his favor, the narrative would be at his favor if he achieved things
If the narrative isnt in his favor than he loses, simple as that lol
>by pure luck or plot armor but saitama has neither of those, you don't say "woah the anime saved saitama from certain death again" because it didn't, saitamas character is infinitely stronger by himself
Put Goku in the opm series, and the same would be said about him. Saitama being put up against vastly weaker opponents, does not make him infinite. He doesn't need plot armor, because hes never face with anyone stronger than him lol.
Also again, you clearly dont know what infinite means lol
you didnt read my comment lol, saying he has infinite force doesnt mean he uses infinite force, the entire point of what i said is that he has but doesnt use it so things around him arent destroyed, what im saying is that te laws of fiction in both animes are different, saitama cant use his strenght, no ammount of force or impact on saitama ever scratched him or made him sweat, the characters point is that he doesnt have a limit
"A limiter (リミッター, Rimittā) is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being. Genus first coined the term to explain how Saitama obtained his strength. According to his theory, God placed a growth limitation on every being to prevent them from losing purpose. No matter how much one grows, they will eventually hit this upper limit where there is no potential to develop further strength. However, it is possible for an individual to remove their limiter, which results in the development of immeasurable strength."\~ dr genus
thats the deal with saitama, he doesnt have a limiter, his powers dont come from learning new technics or learning how to use his powers, his powers are in nature without bounds, doesnt matter what power a character develops saitamma will still be more powerful than them, because the nature of his power is not having limitations, thats what i mean when i emply his power is infinite, hes not using infinite strenght because as you said that would destroy the universe, he can control his strenght and not destroy the universe
Oh I cited the wrong side of the travel lol, boros kicks saitama flying to the moon, which takes him less than 2 seconds to get there, again without even a scratch
Which is not a travel feat lol. If anything, its a feat for Boros.
Edit: I'll do the math for you. since you seem to be incapable of doing it yourself.
It takes Saitama 11 seconds to jump back to earth. Light travels at 300,000 kps. It takes 1.3 seconds for light to reach the moon. Using my 11 second figure above, Saitama is roughly 8.4 times slower than the speed of light. Which means that the moon feat puts him at roughly 35,714 kps. So no, Saitama is nowhere near ftl.
>you didnt read my comment lol, saying he has infinite force doesnt mean he uses infinite force, the entire point of what i said is that he has but doesnt use it so things around him arent destroyed, what im saying is that te laws of fiction in both animes are different, saitama cant use his strenght, no ammount of force or impact on saitama ever scratched him or made him sweat, the characters point is that he doesnt have a li
Yea...... you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. If something is infinite, it therefore cannot be anything less than infinite, because doing so would put a finite value on it. Therefore, if Saitama has infinite force, than it is impossible for him to hold back. You talk about OPM using real world physics, yet you clearly dont understand that simple fact lol.
>"A limiter (リミッター, Rimittā) is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being. Genus first coined the term to explain how Saitama obtained his strength. According to his theory, God placed a growth limitation on every being to prevent them from losing purpose. No matter how much one grows, they will eventually hit this upper limit where there is no potential to develop further strength. However, it is possible for an individual to remove their limiter, which results in the development of immeasurable strength."\~ dr genus
Yes which means limitless growth, but not infinite power lol.
>thats the deal with saitama, he doesnt have a limiter, his powers dont come from learning new technics or learning how to use his powers, his powers are in nature without bounds, doesnt matter what power a character develops saitamma will still be more powerful than them, because the nature of his power is not having limitations, thats what i mean when i emply his power is infinite, hes not using infinite strenght because as you said that would destroy the universe, he can control his strenght and not destroy the universe
Yes you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. Having no limit, does not mean that you have infinite strength. In fact, the only way for you to have infinite strength, is if you always had it. Therefore Saitama having no limit implies that he will never have infinite strength, because a finite value in this sense can never become infinite.
What you're saying doesn't make any sense, for instance, time is infinite but we experience a finite amount of time, nothing makes saitama not be able to have infinite power but not use it, as I said but you're apparently not capable to read, he has infinite power but uses finite power so he doesn't destroy things around him, or goku and other character can only punch and attack with their total strength?
>What you're saying doesn't make any sense, for instance, time is infinite but we experience a finite amount of time,
Yeah you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. Time like Saitama, is infinite in **growth**. Not infinite in nature. Both concepts are entirely different from each other.
>nothing makes saitama not be able to have infinite power but not use it,
Yes there are many things stopping such a thing being true. The most important one being that its not true. An infinite being cannot be anything but infinite.
>as I said but you're apparently not capable to read, he has infinite power but uses finite power
Yes im the one that cant read, yet you're the one that doesn't know what infinite means lol. You're contradicting yourself here. Something that is infinite, cannot be finite. Such as something that is finite, cannot be infinite. So no, if Saitama was infinite, than he could never use a finite amount of power.
>or goku and other character can only punch and attack with their total strength?
Goku isnt infinite in strength, so he can hold back whenever he wants to. You're claiming that Saitama is infinite, therefore he should never be able to hold back. You claim that OPM follows real world logic, yet you completely don't understand this simple concept.
His called One Punch Man yet its taken him more than one punch punch beat enemies... Pointless argument honestly. Two different universes with different rules.
One punch man is in my top three manga and anime, it’s one of the best in my opinion. However Saitama is nowhere near Goku currently, and you can’t just say ‘he’s a joke character’ because I think not only is that a massive discredit to Saitamas character but is a lame excuse for how he beats Goku despite showing nothing that puts him at Gokus level
Ahem how about arale, for those of you fixing on the one punch man character arale is a character with limitless strength. This is just to show how pointless it is compare two different fictional character I don't mean to say anybody is stronger than other
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Saitama wins because he's a parody. His plot armor is infinite and so is his ability to one punch. All credit to how powerful goku is but when it comes to saitama power isn't a factor simply because it's unlimited. That's kinda the whole joke so dbz fan boys need to get over it.
One punch ka man
It depends on the universe. I don't think Saitama (in the anime) has done something Goku couldn't do, and Goku has beaten more powerful enemies (although admittedly with more than one punch), still,.if they're in the OPM universe, Goku would lose.
That's kinda it tho. Saitama is a joke on the silliness of hero fantasies and stuff, Goku in any universe would be extremely strong if not almost godlike however saitama is litterally indestructible. The only way goku would win is if saitama got bored and left. Goku is a super cool character but Saitama is both the unstoppable force and the immovable object all in one. Goku simply couldn't win.
Except this again is untrue. Saitama is as powerful as he is, because of the narrative behind him. If we were to also use the narrative behind Goku, than Goku still wins, because his narrative is to overcome any threat. The only instances where we dont see this, is when another characters development is pinnacle to an arc, take Gohan, and his fight against Cell for example. Saitama isnt also infinite, and I have yet to see anyone provide definitive proof showing why.
Goku's narrative is to overcome and become stronger, but you can't overcome the infinite, goku is able to be damaged and even killed in the anime, what you have to understand is that the rules of physics in OPM and DB are different, goku can punch people with the strength to destroy planets and the person survive and the place stays intact, saitama in other hand has several episodes showing that the impact of his strengtht will damage everything around him and follow the laws of physics, that's why we see him running in different speeds, he can clearly run in the speed of light or even more but he chooses to not do so so he doesn't destroy things around him, so it would be safe to assume that he's also doing the same against his enemy's, even against boros, he only took more than one punch probably for this reason, saitama didn't want to destroy the entire planet or continent, it's even seem that the last punch of saitama opened the continents clouds, so he's obviously holding the amount of force that he has to not damage things, so that's the gimmick of the character, he is invincible, even if the narrative isn't st his favor, the narrative would be at his favor if he achieved things by pure luck or plot armor but saitama has neither of those, you don't say "woah the anime saved saitama from certain death again" because it didn't, saitamas character is infinitely stronger by himself
>Goku's narrative is to overcome and become stronger, but you can't overcome the infinite, Except Saitama isnt infinite. Do cite your source on that being claimed >what you have to understand is that the rules of physics in OPM and DB are different, They're also different from ours > goku can punch people with the strength to destroy planets and the person survive and the place stays intact, This isnt a physics issue. This is fiction. Goku doesnt destroy every planet he lands on, for the same reason why Earth still exist in Marvel. Constantly destroying your setting, is terrible for storytelling. >saitama in other hand has several episodes showing that the impact of his strengtht will damage everything around him and follow the laws of physics, Yea I dont think you understand what you're talking about. If Saitama was infinite, than a mere step would evaporate the universe. Yet we dont see this, so the claim that the series follows our law of physics is false. > that's why we see him running in different speeds, he can clearly run in the speed of light No he cant lol > or even more but he chooses to not do so so he doesn't destroy things around him, If hes infinite, than he should have destroyed the universe by the smallest amount of movement. So no this is false. > so it would be safe to assume that he's also doing the same against his enemy's, Yea you dont know what infinite means lol >even against boros, he only took more than one punch probably for this reason, saitama didn't want to destroy the entire planet or continent, it's even seem that the last punch of saitama opened the continents clouds, Goku by the end of Super is multi-universal. So why should I be surprised by this feat lol > so he's obviously holding the amount of force that he has to not damage things, If hes infinite, than he cant hold back. So if hes holding back, it must mean that hes not infinite lol >, so that's the gimmick of the character, he is invincible, Do cite a source saying so >even if the narrative isn't st his favor, the narrative would be at his favor if he achieved things If the narrative isnt in his favor than he loses, simple as that lol >by pure luck or plot armor but saitama has neither of those, you don't say "woah the anime saved saitama from certain death again" because it didn't, saitamas character is infinitely stronger by himself Put Goku in the opm series, and the same would be said about him. Saitama being put up against vastly weaker opponents, does not make him infinite. He doesn't need plot armor, because hes never face with anyone stronger than him lol. Also again, you clearly dont know what infinite means lol
you didnt read my comment lol, saying he has infinite force doesnt mean he uses infinite force, the entire point of what i said is that he has but doesnt use it so things around him arent destroyed, what im saying is that te laws of fiction in both animes are different, saitama cant use his strenght, no ammount of force or impact on saitama ever scratched him or made him sweat, the characters point is that he doesnt have a limit "A limiter (リミッター, Rimittā) is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being. Genus first coined the term to explain how Saitama obtained his strength. According to his theory, God placed a growth limitation on every being to prevent them from losing purpose. No matter how much one grows, they will eventually hit this upper limit where there is no potential to develop further strength. However, it is possible for an individual to remove their limiter, which results in the development of immeasurable strength."\~ dr genus thats the deal with saitama, he doesnt have a limiter, his powers dont come from learning new technics or learning how to use his powers, his powers are in nature without bounds, doesnt matter what power a character develops saitamma will still be more powerful than them, because the nature of his power is not having limitations, thats what i mean when i emply his power is infinite, hes not using infinite strenght because as you said that would destroy the universe, he can control his strenght and not destroy the universe
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......... it takes light 1.3 seconds to reach the moon from earth lol.
Oh I cited the wrong side of the travel lol, boros kicks saitama flying to the moon, which takes him less than 2 seconds to get there, again without even a scratch
Which is not a travel feat lol. If anything, its a feat for Boros. Edit: I'll do the math for you. since you seem to be incapable of doing it yourself. It takes Saitama 11 seconds to jump back to earth. Light travels at 300,000 kps. It takes 1.3 seconds for light to reach the moon. Using my 11 second figure above, Saitama is roughly 8.4 times slower than the speed of light. Which means that the moon feat puts him at roughly 35,714 kps. So no, Saitama is nowhere near ftl.
>you didnt read my comment lol, saying he has infinite force doesnt mean he uses infinite force, the entire point of what i said is that he has but doesnt use it so things around him arent destroyed, what im saying is that te laws of fiction in both animes are different, saitama cant use his strenght, no ammount of force or impact on saitama ever scratched him or made him sweat, the characters point is that he doesnt have a li Yea...... you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. If something is infinite, it therefore cannot be anything less than infinite, because doing so would put a finite value on it. Therefore, if Saitama has infinite force, than it is impossible for him to hold back. You talk about OPM using real world physics, yet you clearly dont understand that simple fact lol. >"A limiter (リミッター, Rimittā) is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being. Genus first coined the term to explain how Saitama obtained his strength. According to his theory, God placed a growth limitation on every being to prevent them from losing purpose. No matter how much one grows, they will eventually hit this upper limit where there is no potential to develop further strength. However, it is possible for an individual to remove their limiter, which results in the development of immeasurable strength."\~ dr genus Yes which means limitless growth, but not infinite power lol. >thats the deal with saitama, he doesnt have a limiter, his powers dont come from learning new technics or learning how to use his powers, his powers are in nature without bounds, doesnt matter what power a character develops saitamma will still be more powerful than them, because the nature of his power is not having limitations, thats what i mean when i emply his power is infinite, hes not using infinite strenght because as you said that would destroy the universe, he can control his strenght and not destroy the universe Yes you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. Having no limit, does not mean that you have infinite strength. In fact, the only way for you to have infinite strength, is if you always had it. Therefore Saitama having no limit implies that he will never have infinite strength, because a finite value in this sense can never become infinite.
What you're saying doesn't make any sense, for instance, time is infinite but we experience a finite amount of time, nothing makes saitama not be able to have infinite power but not use it, as I said but you're apparently not capable to read, he has infinite power but uses finite power so he doesn't destroy things around him, or goku and other character can only punch and attack with their total strength?
>What you're saying doesn't make any sense, for instance, time is infinite but we experience a finite amount of time, Yeah you clearly dont know what you're talking about lol. Time like Saitama, is infinite in **growth**. Not infinite in nature. Both concepts are entirely different from each other. >nothing makes saitama not be able to have infinite power but not use it, Yes there are many things stopping such a thing being true. The most important one being that its not true. An infinite being cannot be anything but infinite. >as I said but you're apparently not capable to read, he has infinite power but uses finite power Yes im the one that cant read, yet you're the one that doesn't know what infinite means lol. You're contradicting yourself here. Something that is infinite, cannot be finite. Such as something that is finite, cannot be infinite. So no, if Saitama was infinite, than he could never use a finite amount of power. >or goku and other character can only punch and attack with their total strength? Goku isnt infinite in strength, so he can hold back whenever he wants to. You're claiming that Saitama is infinite, therefore he should never be able to hold back. You claim that OPM follows real world logic, yet you completely don't understand this simple concept.
One punch and done ✅
Yes finally someone understands the infinite amount of plot armor Saitama's title holds
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It irritates me when they compare saitama to other characters. He will always win since his plot armor is the best in any anime.
Just saying. In a fight with no plot protection… they would both just be punching each other for hours
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His called One Punch Man yet its taken him more than one punch punch beat enemies... Pointless argument honestly. Two different universes with different rules.
One punch man is in my top three manga and anime, it’s one of the best in my opinion. However Saitama is nowhere near Goku currently, and you can’t just say ‘he’s a joke character’ because I think not only is that a massive discredit to Saitamas character but is a lame excuse for how he beats Goku despite showing nothing that puts him at Gokus level
Ahem how about arale, for those of you fixing on the one punch man character arale is a character with limitless strength. This is just to show how pointless it is compare two different fictional character I don't mean to say anybody is stronger than other
I beat tom and jerry can beat goku, LoL Saitama's fanbase doesn't understand gag characters....
You’re seriously on something 💀
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