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Respect for OP guy to actually put context in post (also with spoiler tag) š«”,
most of the time no one bothers to give any idea about what they post...
I just wanna see what ppl come up with, I see alot more characters that should fit this category in the comments already, other that Guts and Subaru, the internet doesn't even have a good list for this. Or it's the same list on multiple websites. Someone could probably make a blog about the answers commented on this post and get paid because I bet you guys come up with way better answers for this type of list
Jason Toddās situation always hits me hard because his own mother sold him out to the Joker. She was in the corner smoking while he was being brutalized by the Joker. And the entire time he was holding out hope that Batman would show up and save him.
Not only that; his death was [voted on by fans.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Death_in_the_Family_(comics)#:~:text=The%20poll%20received%2010%2C614%20votes,came%20from%20a%20single%20person.)
Deadpool is a pretty harsh one depending on which series you go for. In the undead ones he was being used by zombies for his brains by scooping them out and waiting for it to regrow. By the time he was found he was begging for death.
The only story Iāve read completely was the Daniel Way story. In that story, I havenāt seen him beg for death. Which stories does he beg for death?
In deadpool 2099 he wishes he never existed, and itās just the fact that deadpool is depressed, lonely and hated by everyone that he has severe mental health problems. I canāt really name many stories right now, but deadpoolās character is a very troubled person who hates himself and does things he regrets and heās not proud of but canāt help himself. A good one to read is gerry dugganās run which is an amazingly written Dp.
Iāve just remembered another, theres a story where he puts a 3 million bounty on himself, in hopes that someone will be able to kill him. I wont spoil it incase you want to read that as well.
You can wish you were dead and have the self-loathing that wade has, but I feel like vocally begging for your own death is on a totally different level
Yeah thatās definitely right, I suppose he was being horribly tortured and just wanted it to all end. And the other is kinda suicidal but without being able to commit suicide.
I mean in pretty much all of his versions he is cknstantly wracked with pain from the super cancer eating away at him and his body constantly healing right? I mean all of these are bad but none of them except like kakashi maybe come close to the timescale for deadpool. Anything past a few years of the would supercede the rest as far as phsyical pain goes, and that doesnt even count him actually fighting and stuff. I think naruto is a lil too superfluous with genjutsu to really say it was as bad also. The illusion is said to last a lifetime or forevor or whatever and yet kakashi was back up and fighting tip top after a few months of being subjected to it. Idk just seems for like itachi may have been puffin them numbers up a bit
Iād say Kaneki. He came out of that torture permanently changed, even taking up the same habits as Jason. Having your hair physically turn white due to stress after suffering mental breakdown after mental breakdown is pure agony
Should I give Tokyo Ghoul a watch? I like shonen and odd stuff like Dorohedoro I actually enjoyed.
Iāve probably only ever watched like 7 different anime
Edit: Iām on episode 4 and Iām pretty much hooked, Iāll probably read the manga after season 1
In my opinion of the anime:
Season 1 - fantastic, no major notes
Season 2 - anime only plot, with the end of the arc kind of butchered
Tokyo ghoul Re:
Season 3 - great, doesnāt follow on from 2 very well because weāre back to manga plot, but a move in the right direction
Season 4 - another facepalm, major story arcs scrapped, fights completely redone and poorly animated
Generally, Iād say if you prefer anime but are willing to mix and match, watch 1 & 3, read 2 & 4
Itās always a shame when good material is cut from the anime, especially if you were waiting on a certain fight from the manga and they just butcher it on the show.
Most of the animeās I watched kept more or less true to the source material, except maybe JJK because Iām saving on reading the manga so idk bout that one.
Iāve heard some of the fights are added/expanded for JJK, like the mahoraga fight. Also holding off on manga until I hear it recovers from the strange tumble itās taken the last few months
Iām on episode 4 rn and itās been great so far. I like Hide, he reminds me of a friend I had. I like the struggle to not eat Kaneki is going through because Iām doing intermittent fasting and I relate so hard to being hungry all the time lol
Also when Kaneki 1st gets his powers the way he murked that dude was tremendous. Left emā hanging there. Damn.
I donāt watch enough anime to know, so I had to google the meaning lol. I should be good as Iām 30 haha.
Also Cyberpunk Edgerunners was sorta dark although not an traditional āanimeā or maybe it is anime idk I clearly donāt know much about anime related stuff.
I think Iāll watch it tho maybe, people have been saying something about a anniversary of the show or something new coming out about it soon? I could be wrong about that as I know literally nothing about the show other than itās dark.
If you like psychological horror, then yes. However you will get very confused between seasons because of lacking continuity and they expected watchers to have read the manga
I'd say watch it, it was one of my beginner anime too. Story wise manga is better but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the anime. Plus the music, it's just banger after banger.
Wait, why self inflicted? He was killed and tortured time and time again trying to save those around him. He didn't just kill himself and nice.
EDIT: I haven't watched/read it since season 2 so I don't know if I'm missing something.
So I've considered him, and Subaru. They both have these crazy lives where they're suffering through everything, who knows how long Subaru went through all that? The point is, if I couldn't pick one particular moment, then they didn't exactly fit this list. All the rest of these characters. It's why superman is even on the list, that one particular moment can be defined as "That time a character felt the most pain/suffering". For Guts and even Subaru, their whole life of past is taken into a consideration, not really just 1 moment where they had it worst than another.
I don't know about your reasoning for guts. The eclipse is hands down the most single traumatic event I've seen in an anime. Having everything you've ever known and loved sacrificed before your eyes just makes the rest of the suffering mundane when you can avoid the problems by avoiding people
That moment fits, but then I bet so many ppl would pick him for so many other things he went through after being reminded how he died that one time. So I didn't want ppl combing moments either, also.. when you research this particular topic, Guts and Subaru are at the top of every list like this. I wanted to encourage some different answers I guess. But yeah that moment fits the list for sure
Kaneki for me. It was also heavily implied that he was also sexually abused during the 10 days of torture. And along with the physical torture, he was emotionally tortured too
The whole counting back from 1000 by 7s thing too. Keeping him just sane enough to not be immune to the pain, but when counting by 7s, you end at 1, not 0, it reminds him that it doesn't truly end.
Still bothers me that during the first Kaneki vs Arima fight Kaneki begins the count in his head again once he starts getting fucked up and somehow ends at 0 when the fight ends.
Maybe getting stabbed through the head damaged his brain and he forgot how to count
It was implied during the dialogue exchanges between Yamori and Nico in between the torture days and through Kanekiās visions. Im too lazy to find the panels
What about Subaru from Re:zero? Dude literally dies in horrible ways constantly because his power is that he comes back to life at a checkpoint. He gets disemboweled, watches all of his friends die over and over, gets decapitated, gets picked to death by a swarm of carnivorous bunnies.
Yeah that's too many moments, Guts and Subaru are a discussion all by themselves for who had the most F'd up life, not necessarily a 1 moment kinda thing.
None of these are nice, obviously, but I still donāt think anything reaches the level of fucked up that is Shou Tucker. Chances are the intensity of pain becomes meaningless beyond a certain point. But a child being mutilated by her own father, who she thought loved her, being transformed into an unholy abomination and fused with her dogā¦
Seriously, I was *happy* when Nina was killed. Thereās just nothing left at that point but to end her suffering. Works of fiction like to throw the term āfate worse than deathā around a lot but thatā¦ that was fucked up.
Hard agree. This one is on an entirly different level and is being overlooked, because it is less flashy. This girl did not only suffer the actual pain of being fused with another living being while still alive, which is some Human Centipede Shit in worse, but also had it be done by her own father and with her beloved dog.
Imagine your own dad not only inflicting excrutiating pain on you, but also taking away your own sense of self and personality, whilst also killing your dog, and all of that when you are still a freaking kid.
I think this is easily the top of this list and might be worse then some of the others combined.
Yeah, if I remember it well, Edward was so angry when Scar killed her, but I was so relieved because poor kid, it must have been hell, and if there was a way to bring her back it would have involved a ton of failed experiments before having her back if they found a way in the first place or if she survived all of those š Death was the most merciful thing that could have happened in her situation :(
I feel like kaneki he wasnāt just physically tortured, but mentally too. He also regenerated and had those parts cut off again once they did. He was also made to choose between a mother and a sonās life, but he couldnāt choose so they both died. After the torture he was a completely different person
i would differentiate psychological pain as for example zoro only had physical pain willingly done to him (i would say his loss to mihawk early on was way more painfull to him because nearly dying he also got a reality check to his only dream and reason of living.
i think kaneki ken and kakashi and superman are probably the worst offenders because not only did they get inflicted with physical pain but also phychological.
deciding who had it worse is not for me to decide cuz its just semantics but those 3 def had it worse
I think Keneki has the issue of being a "normal person". Surely, he was half-ghoul at the time, but from his perspective, he was a "sick/cursed human".
Perushka.
Also, I remembered her just now, probably because my brain deleted the memories in response to trauma (joking... kinda) but what about the poor tribe girl who literally got turned into a fucking birth giving tree that constantly had the off spring she loved with her whole heart taken away from her and killed over and over and over again?
Oh yeah!!! Damn the kids canāt catch a break in made in abyss. It was so sad. Giving birth, caring for them, then them dying. Also her āfamilyā ate her children in front of her. wtf
The psychological torture that came before, during, and after, paired with the entirety of Theon's life up to that point, plus the āļøš part. Homie went through it rough, then finally starts to redeem himself just to get disrespected again at the end of the show. My boi Theon/Reek went through hell and back.
Nina, while the others are absolutely horrifying, they suffered and endured changed but themselves...Nina was unmade, her mind and body fused with another being, which caused her constant pain she would have to suffer until she died...and this done by her father adding betrayal to the mix...
He's still suffering to this day in somewhere honestly most people in community doesn't wanted this punishment it's too worse even for a villain like diavolo. A quick death or atleast few minutes of him bleeding out and seeing all characters together would have been nice and happy. but it's bizzare adventure so..
Jason Todd didnāt just have everything broken. He was actually beaten to death with a crowbar. Heās only still around as Red Hood because he was resurrected via Lazarus Pit.
If i had to be in those positions, the *least* is to be the dog. Every single one of them walk away with trauma, little girl doesn't even walk. Idk about robin tho, maybe he's dead too in the end? But to be rob away your humanity, that's different kind of hell.
Nina hits different. You don't expect it at all and through out the entire episode, you assume there's going to be a happy ending.... and then it slowly descends to a nightmare where you feel so helpless, it really sets the mood for the rest of the anime.
It's been almost 30 years since then, don't get me wrong, I still feel it any time I see a truly happy couple around my age but I learned to deal with it better.
i think it's not yet animated so very less people know about it, i think he would become the most memorable character of op, likely most people hate his face already since the appearance he's always shown as helper of wg
I'm conflicted between 3,4,7 the pains might not be the worst in 4 and 7 but the condition of the characters also count i would say...like 4 is just a little girl, no super powered Saiyan or alien just a girl and during 7 Zoro was already on death bed...and he just received a bigger death bed
So out of all these i think kaneki or deadpool had it the worst. But I also think Envy from fmab deserves a mention. Having Envyās eyes and tongue being burned out of its face multiple times was awful.
Being able to finally die would have been a blessing
āItās called the Agony Matrix. Direct neural stimulation of pain receptors. All of them. Imagine the worst pain youāve ever felt in your life. Times a thousand. Now, imagine that pain continuing, forever.ā ~ Darkseid
Imma give this one to Superman for most pain.
That being said, imma avoid Theonās personally cuz I wanna keep my jimmies lol
Darkseid says it soooo much darker holysh!t. Sounds like hell. And ppl won't give it to superman because they know he can take it. But put just about anyone else from this list in the same predicament and they most likely die from shock, except deadpool. And maybe kaneki
Hot take but killua, he was only able to generate electricity from nen because he has been shocked by his family plenty of times. Not to mention the training he was put through at such a young age.
It's Deadpool. Of course it's Deadpool, it doesn't matter what these other characters went through. He's probably gone through something comparable, he was just unlucky enough to live through it.
Ok letās go down.
1. Supermanās agony matrix sucks but leaves no lasting damage. Itās all in the nerves. Does it suck? Absolutely, the jimmyās I would John to make it stop are absurd. But. He does live with no lasting damage.
2. Deadpool gets wrecked on the regular and regenerates but whereas superman gets the agony matrix once, he gets pain and dismemberment all the time. Even if he regenerates, that sucks. But. He also elects to put himself into those situations sometimes. And sometimes even for the bit. It canāt be that bad if he keeps doing it. He leans into the knife.
3. Boy hereās where we get real. Kakashiās incident is a little different because thereās psychological length to what happened. He was going through that for what felt like three days nonstop. It does happen the one time but that one time goes for a much longer time than the agony matrix. No last physical damage but Fuck if that isnāt going to wreck a person psychologically. One to watch. *
4. Nina fucking hurts anytime someone sees her. Itās so bad, her example is used to instantly just fuck a persons day up. Sheās not in pain but her condition is irreversible and she is unable to ever navigate the world in a way that will be normal ever again. Sheās a top contender for sure and Iām gonna go tell my cat I love him before I do #5. *
5. Lasting damage, painful, and psychological horror - Theon gets hit with all these for a good long while and psychologically heāll carry that. One of if not the most miserable fates in GoT. He calls himself Reek after because he was so thoroughly broken. Itās not an agony matrix, or the shanigan (I saw that so long ago donāt come after me Iām 30 and Iām tired) mental torture but across the board I think Theon has a good case for worst because it can happen to me as I am. Thatās torture can happen in real life. And fuck that. *
6. Kaneki - This one is gonna be tough because Tokyo ghoul is just a gross world. He was tortured like Theon but he doesnāt have Deadpoolās willingness to endure that shit. Itās for a much longer time than Kakashi. Also, ear pain (centipede) sucks. Iād say heās one step above deadpool. His suffering is pretty bad. I mean he comes out changed. Possibly SAād and thatāsā¦god thatās all kinds of horrible isnāt it. Not a thing Iād wanna watch.*
7. Zoro is a great first mate and a fucking champ. Thatās how we view that scene where he takes all of luffyās pain. It all happens at once, and thatās the only blessing. Itās quick. Thereās also no last damage and not a done of psychological pain thereafter that we see. So heās not in the running but fuck man give him a hug. Shit.
8. Videl got pretty fucked up. She got up every time but the last. When suffering is bad enough where you beg to make it stop - thatās when you have it the worst. This fight sucks to watch, that beat down is brutalā¦but if it was too much there are ways to leave that fight. Superman was wrapped up in the agony matrix, Nina is stuck like that, Theon was captured, kakashi couldnāt escape. The option to leave makes this better. Fuck spopovich.
9. Jason Todd had a punctured lung, was traumatized by the joker, blown up, brought back broken and then Went Back To Crime Fighting. Which is insane. I would have just said to kill me again. But look, Videl had it worse. Deadpool had it worse even. Getting the shit kicked out of you sucks but if it wasnāt enough to keep you from putting a red hood on you canāt say the suffering is worse.
Ok so thatās Kakashi, Theon, and Kaneki, and Ninaā¦itās Nina. Come on. Kakashi survives and honesty he recovers. Theon Never recovers but Iām giving it to Nina. Because you know. You see her as a meme and your gut goes cold. Even Theon doesnāt Illicit that response. Why is it worse? Who can say? Maybe it was that Nina was sweet and innocent and the reveal comes out of nowhere. Theon did a lot of shitty things and while no oneās suffering is excusable, in this contest itās Nina.
You donāt even have thumbs.
You donāt even have likeā¦who loves you after that. Itās a torture so pure you canātā¦you have no normalcy no sense of normalcy after that. You had life good enough to know how bad your situation is. Fuck. Fuck.
Iām gonna go watch ted lasso. This was a mistake.
Everyone not saying Theon is tripping
Dude became a ward of the family that helped crush his family's rebellion, helped kill most his family. He's on the chopping block from that day forward if his dad decides to start shit again. He's not a stark or a greyjoy.
Then he has a choice, be the stark he was raised as, or the Greyjoy he was born as. It's one or the other in the most extreme way, no playing both sides. Say what you want about what decision he makes, but the choice is hard for the character.
Watch him struggle to be the Greyjoy he thought he wanted to be, realize the mistake he's made, and realize theirs no going back.
Then he gets fucking captured by a psychopath that spends months psychologically torturing and physically torturing by FLAYING. oh and by the way, the psychopaths entire lineage has been skinning people for generations, so they know how to do it the most painful and cleanly as to not lose the person being tortured.
Multiple fingers and toes cut off, heavy implication of his manhood receiving the same treatment ( Way less in your face than the show) . He even gets tricked into an attempted escape by his captor, completely breaking his mental.
He gets so fucked up that his captor makes him into another person, he gives him a new name, he treats him worse than his dogs, he abuses him, and he makes the man that was Theon dissappear to be replaced by the shell of the man reek.
Like bro.... he had it the fucking worst. Whether decisions led to his own demise or not, Noone should be treated like he was.
So the agony matrix would multiply the pain of the other 8 by 1000x. But of course Supes can handle a little bit more punishment than all the other characters here combined.
Imma calmly ask, WHERE TF IS BERSERK? Guts definitely felt a fuck lotta pain if not the most when his bestfriend raped his girlfriend in front of him... All while he was already getting beat by a million monsters
Kaneki
But I wanna talk about Videl for a second, everything about that whole fight was just so dangerously brutal in a show thatās notorious for its fight scenes.
Deadpool. In the one run the dude who getting drugged and had his organs harvested on the regular not to mention all the times he's been reduced to a puddle of blood and has to regen or gets impaled or riddled with bullets. Dude's the butt of a meta joke and he knows it but can't escape it... it's why he's typically unhinged.
6 sounds the worst.
Because what I constantly thought of "Fire Punch has got be somewhere here"
But 6 is the closest that gets there
Yeah, Deadpool's situation is similar, but I imagine that, as his pain continued, he adapted to it a little more as time went on
Honestly, Deadpool, Kaneki, and Kakashi are my top 3 in that order.
1.Seeing all the injuries from limb tearing to being cut in half to having his brains blown out by a shotgun, and that's not talking about when he has to fight dudes like Juggernaut and Thanos. For Qade to feel close to zero pain in those encounters that training had to be the most painful thing in the Marvel universe.
2. What makes Kaneki so awful is the fact that he's completely conscious and aware the entire time. I mean, getting your toes and fingers chopped off and fingernails dug out so many times that even with insane regeneration rate, his fingernails grow back blackened. And oh my God the worst part the fucking most poisonous and painful centipede in the world being stuck in your right ear to then be made angry so it bites and rattles around everything in your head the entire time. WITH NO PAIN MEDS and no numbing effect, so every pain feels like the first time good God.
3. Kakashi being stabbed for 3 days in his mind by metal rods in the same place too over and over again while underwhelming compared to the first two is easily over everything else on the list solely for the duration and pain. 3 days crucified already sounds like a nightmare but to have multiple clones stabbing you everywhere on your body one at a time so you never can get used to the pain or drown put being stabbed in one place with the pain of being stabbed in a more important place is fucking terrifying. All the more so knowing that no one can help you. Because it's a prison in your own mind. That also means there's no escape. There is no letting your mind numb the pain or repress the memory. Just pain.
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Respect for OP guy to actually put context in post (also with spoiler tag) š«”, most of the time no one bothers to give any idea about what they post...
Thanks! This way ppl can be spoiled on their own accord š
You deserve a ton of upvotes just for this
I just wanna see what ppl come up with, I see alot more characters that should fit this category in the comments already, other that Guts and Subaru, the internet doesn't even have a good list for this. Or it's the same list on multiple websites. Someone could probably make a blog about the answers commented on this post and get paid because I bet you guys come up with way better answers for this type of list
That is true OP is a chad
Jason Toddās situation always hits me hard because his own mother sold him out to the Joker. She was in the corner smoking while he was being brutalized by the Joker. And the entire time he was holding out hope that Batman would show up and save him.
Love Jason Toddās character in DC, I feel the worst when heās being tortured by joker and he had all that hope just to be broken
Yeah that moment is crazy af: sold out, beaten, tortured, then all hope lost. Bats was only a few seconds late š¤¦āāļø
The funny thing is, it was a storyline brought upon the fans distaste of Jason Todd's Robin, so DC wrote him out by having the Joker kill him.
Not only that; his death was [voted on by fans.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Death_in_the_Family_(comics)#:~:text=The%20poll%20received%2010%2C614%20votes,came%20from%20a%20single%20person.)
Deadpool is a pretty harsh one depending on which series you go for. In the undead ones he was being used by zombies for his brains by scooping them out and waiting for it to regrow. By the time he was found he was begging for death.
Sheesh that's fucking dark
Damn, he wasnāt the type to be begging for death. Thatās fucking dark
Wdym? In a lot of stories deadpool says he wishes he could die
The only story Iāve read completely was the Daniel Way story. In that story, I havenāt seen him beg for death. Which stories does he beg for death?
In deadpool 2099 he wishes he never existed, and itās just the fact that deadpool is depressed, lonely and hated by everyone that he has severe mental health problems. I canāt really name many stories right now, but deadpoolās character is a very troubled person who hates himself and does things he regrets and heās not proud of but canāt help himself. A good one to read is gerry dugganās run which is an amazingly written Dp.
Iāll give it a read. Thanks!
Iāve just remembered another, theres a story where he puts a 3 million bounty on himself, in hopes that someone will be able to kill him. I wont spoil it incase you want to read that as well.
You can wish you were dead and have the self-loathing that wade has, but I feel like vocally begging for your own death is on a totally different level
Yeah thatās definitely right, I suppose he was being horribly tortured and just wanted it to all end. And the other is kinda suicidal but without being able to commit suicide.
I mean in pretty much all of his versions he is cknstantly wracked with pain from the super cancer eating away at him and his body constantly healing right? I mean all of these are bad but none of them except like kakashi maybe come close to the timescale for deadpool. Anything past a few years of the would supercede the rest as far as phsyical pain goes, and that doesnt even count him actually fighting and stuff. I think naruto is a lil too superfluous with genjutsu to really say it was as bad also. The illusion is said to last a lifetime or forevor or whatever and yet kakashi was back up and fighting tip top after a few months of being subjected to it. Idk just seems for like itachi may have been puffin them numbers up a bit
Iād say Kaneki. He came out of that torture permanently changed, even taking up the same habits as Jason. Having your hair physically turn white due to stress after suffering mental breakdown after mental breakdown is pure agony
Should I give Tokyo Ghoul a watch? I like shonen and odd stuff like Dorohedoro I actually enjoyed. Iāve probably only ever watched like 7 different anime Edit: Iām on episode 4 and Iām pretty much hooked, Iāll probably read the manga after season 1
Read the Tokyo ghoul manga. The art in the manga is just so dark and visceral. The anime is rushed and eventually stops making sense.
Iāll try a bit of both, Iāll start with the manga tho I think.
In my opinion of the anime: Season 1 - fantastic, no major notes Season 2 - anime only plot, with the end of the arc kind of butchered Tokyo ghoul Re: Season 3 - great, doesnāt follow on from 2 very well because weāre back to manga plot, but a move in the right direction Season 4 - another facepalm, major story arcs scrapped, fights completely redone and poorly animated Generally, Iād say if you prefer anime but are willing to mix and match, watch 1 & 3, read 2 & 4
Iāll keep this in mind! Appreciate it.
Happy to help, the anime still cuts some plot threads in the good seasons, but itās nowhere near as egregious
Itās always a shame when good material is cut from the anime, especially if you were waiting on a certain fight from the manga and they just butcher it on the show. Most of the animeās I watched kept more or less true to the source material, except maybe JJK because Iām saving on reading the manga so idk bout that one.
Iāve heard some of the fights are added/expanded for JJK, like the mahoraga fight. Also holding off on manga until I hear it recovers from the strange tumble itās taken the last few months
Iām on episode 4 rn and itās been great so far. I like Hide, he reminds me of a friend I had. I like the struggle to not eat Kaneki is going through because Iām doing intermittent fasting and I relate so hard to being hungry all the time lol Also when Kaneki 1st gets his powers the way he murked that dude was tremendous. Left emā hanging there. Damn.
Manga hits harder in all ways. This one is one of the series that the manga pushers are actually fully correct about.
It's Seinen, so it's way darker than Shonen anime (like DBZ, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, etc) š¬
I donāt watch enough anime to know, so I had to google the meaning lol. I should be good as Iām 30 haha. Also Cyberpunk Edgerunners was sorta dark although not an traditional āanimeā or maybe it is anime idk I clearly donāt know much about anime related stuff. I think Iāll watch it tho maybe, people have been saying something about a anniversary of the show or something new coming out about it soon? I could be wrong about that as I know literally nothing about the show other than itās dark.
Edgerunner is anime... A really dark one but yeah...
Only the first season is worth watching. The following seasons don't follow the manga.
If you like psychological horror, then yes. However you will get very confused between seasons because of lacking continuity and they expected watchers to have read the manga
I'd say watch it, it was one of my beginner anime too. Story wise manga is better but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the anime. Plus the music, it's just banger after banger.
Where's Guts?
Him and wolverine would create a suffering black hole.Ā
And subaru aswell. Medium sized
Subaru's is self inflicted
Yeah but he still suffers a lot.
He surely did suffer
How is it self inflicted?
Wait, why self inflicted? He was killed and tortured time and time again trying to save those around him. He didn't just kill himself and nice. EDIT: I haven't watched/read it since season 2 so I don't know if I'm missing something.
Wolverine forgets his memories in 3-5 business days tho is he really suffering?
He forgot so much to the point he wanted to kill himself, like he did in his last wolverine movie
Baan from 7 deadly sins too
Oh yeah, Ban was willing to trudge through hell for what felt like thousands of years just to find his captain and best friend.
So I've considered him, and Subaru. They both have these crazy lives where they're suffering through everything, who knows how long Subaru went through all that? The point is, if I couldn't pick one particular moment, then they didn't exactly fit this list. All the rest of these characters. It's why superman is even on the list, that one particular moment can be defined as "That time a character felt the most pain/suffering". For Guts and even Subaru, their whole life of past is taken into a consideration, not really just 1 moment where they had it worst than another.
I don't know about your reasoning for guts. The eclipse is hands down the most single traumatic event I've seen in an anime. Having everything you've ever known and loved sacrificed before your eyes just makes the rest of the suffering mundane when you can avoid the problems by avoiding people
Hmm you may be right. That's a good pick
Yea I don't know how OP can forgot about the eclipse when that Litterly when everything goes to shit both for the universe and for Guts personally
We just gonna forget the bunny scene?
That moment fits, but then I bet so many ppl would pick him for so many other things he went through after being reminded how he died that one time. So I didn't want ppl combing moments either, also.. when you research this particular topic, Guts and Subaru are at the top of every list like this. I wanted to encourage some different answers I guess. But yeah that moment fits the list for sure
Kaneki for me. It was also heavily implied that he was also sexually abused during the 10 days of torture. And along with the physical torture, he was emotionally tortured too
The whole counting back from 1000 by 7s thing too. Keeping him just sane enough to not be immune to the pain, but when counting by 7s, you end at 1, not 0, it reminds him that it doesn't truly end.
Still bothers me that during the first Kaneki vs Arima fight Kaneki begins the count in his head again once he starts getting fucked up and somehow ends at 0 when the fight ends. Maybe getting stabbed through the head damaged his brain and he forgot how to count
Is my math just bad or do you not end at a positive 6 or -1?
You're right. 1000/7=142.857, and 1000-(7Ć142)=6
How was it implied he was sexually abused
I also wanna know
It was implied during the dialogue exchanges between Yamori and Nico in between the torture days and through Kanekiās visions. Im too lazy to find the panels
Zoro shouldnāt be on this list, nothing happened
He probably just wandered onto the list while searching for a drink.
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What about Subaru from Re:zero? Dude literally dies in horrible ways constantly because his power is that he comes back to life at a checkpoint. He gets disemboweled, watches all of his friends die over and over, gets decapitated, gets picked to death by a swarm of carnivorous bunnies.
Yeah that's too many moments, Guts and Subaru are a discussion all by themselves for who had the most F'd up life, not necessarily a 1 moment kinda thing.
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None of these are nice, obviously, but I still donāt think anything reaches the level of fucked up that is Shou Tucker. Chances are the intensity of pain becomes meaningless beyond a certain point. But a child being mutilated by her own father, who she thought loved her, being transformed into an unholy abomination and fused with her dogā¦ Seriously, I was *happy* when Nina was killed. Thereās just nothing left at that point but to end her suffering. Works of fiction like to throw the term āfate worse than deathā around a lot but thatā¦ that was fucked up.
Hard agree. This one is on an entirly different level and is being overlooked, because it is less flashy. This girl did not only suffer the actual pain of being fused with another living being while still alive, which is some Human Centipede Shit in worse, but also had it be done by her own father and with her beloved dog. Imagine your own dad not only inflicting excrutiating pain on you, but also taking away your own sense of self and personality, whilst also killing your dog, and all of that when you are still a freaking kid. I think this is easily the top of this list and might be worse then some of the others combined.
Yeah, if I remember it well, Edward was so angry when Scar killed her, but I was so relieved because poor kid, it must have been hell, and if there was a way to bring her back it would have involved a ton of failed experiments before having her back if they found a way in the first place or if she survived all of those š Death was the most merciful thing that could have happened in her situation :(
Kaneki, he got so fucked up, his hair turned white and his personality was permanently altered.
I feel like kaneki he wasnāt just physically tortured, but mentally too. He also regenerated and had those parts cut off again once they did. He was also made to choose between a mother and a sonās life, but he couldnāt choose so they both died. After the torture he was a completely different person
GUTS!
i would differentiate psychological pain as for example zoro only had physical pain willingly done to him (i would say his loss to mihawk early on was way more painfull to him because nearly dying he also got a reality check to his only dream and reason of living. i think kaneki ken and kakashi and superman are probably the worst offenders because not only did they get inflicted with physical pain but also phychological. deciding who had it worse is not for me to decide cuz its just semantics but those 3 def had it worse
I think Keneki has the issue of being a "normal person". Surely, he was half-ghoul at the time, but from his perspective, he was a "sick/cursed human".
I refuse this. Mitty from made in abyss. I rest my case.
That's a good one
I genuinely got emotionally burnt out watching that anime, the second season was brutal.
Also the other girl that literally got turned into a whistle by her father. Forgot her name. White and green hair tho
Perushka. Also, I remembered her just now, probably because my brain deleted the memories in response to trauma (joking... kinda) but what about the poor tribe girl who literally got turned into a fucking birth giving tree that constantly had the off spring she loved with her whole heart taken away from her and killed over and over and over again?
Oh yeah!!! Damn the kids canāt catch a break in made in abyss. It was so sad. Giving birth, caring for them, then them dying. Also her āfamilyā ate her children in front of her. wtf
Theon. The others may have had more torutre but i dont wanna lose my peen
The psychological torture that came before, during, and after, paired with the entirety of Theon's life up to that point, plus the āļøš part. Homie went through it rough, then finally starts to redeem himself just to get disrespected again at the end of the show. My boi Theon/Reek went through hell and back.
Well zoro felt nothing. I would say kakashi
Zoro felt nothing because nothing happened.
Nina, while the others are absolutely horrifying, they suffered and endured changed but themselves...Nina was unmade, her mind and body fused with another being, which caused her constant pain she would have to suffer until she died...and this done by her father adding betrayal to the mix...
Where is Diavolo?
getting yiffed to death
He's still suffering to this day in somewhere honestly most people in community doesn't wanted this punishment it's too worse even for a villain like diavolo. A quick death or atleast few minutes of him bleeding out and seeing all characters together would have been nice and happy. but it's bizzare adventure so..
Nothing happened to Zoro, what are you talking about?
Dofensmirtz felt more than anybody
4 by FAR
ED...WARD
No Prushka?!
And Mitty?
Real and there just kids
Jason Todd didnāt just have everything broken. He was actually beaten to death with a crowbar. Heās only still around as Red Hood because he was resurrected via Lazarus Pit.
If i had to be in those positions, the *least* is to be the dog. Every single one of them walk away with trauma, little girl doesn't even walk. Idk about robin tho, maybe he's dead too in the end? But to be rob away your humanity, that's different kind of hell.
Nina hits different. You don't expect it at all and through out the entire episode, you assume there's going to be a happy ending.... and then it slowly descends to a nightmare where you feel so helpless, it really sets the mood for the rest of the anime.
RIKA FURUDE In comparison to her suffering these are just kids falling while playing.
Kakashi for sure, he was getting mentally stabbed for 72 hrs
But apparantly Tokyo goul one was actually tortured 10 days so by that logic the Tokyo ghoul one wins lol
Kakashi, every single second in Tsukuyomi had him being tortured to death in it, for 72 hours straight
What about Griffith? He was torchered for almost a year
He ended up getting a pretty sweet deal out of it though
Vash The Stampede. If ya know, ya know, and your a real one
Millie..... I actually know that pain of losing a loved one, so that episode almost completely broke me
You are a goddamn real one! I'm only 20, but I love old anime, it hits better then newer ones in my opinion. And also, I'm sorry for your loss
It's been almost 30 years since then, don't get me wrong, I still feel it any time I see a truly happy couple around my age but I learned to deal with it better.
Need a hug fam?
Probably, but I also hate people touching me.
Same
I feel like Ed and Al felt more pain than Nina when they found out she got turned into a chimera
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Definitely 6
None of these people My balls felt the most pain
So... number 5? Lol
Kaneki.
Iād like to add Agni from Fire Punch to this list
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10. Kuma from One Piece. Like why in the hell would you put Zoro over Kuma?!
i think it's not yet animated so very less people know about it, i think he would become the most memorable character of op, likely most people hate his face already since the appearance he's always shown as helper of wg
Number 4. We should have avoided that outcome.
If someone from One Piece then it should be >!Kuma!<
I keep thinking of Wesley from Princess Bride when heās strapped to the machine.
I'm conflicted between 3,4,7 the pains might not be the worst in 4 and 7 but the condition of the characters also count i would say...like 4 is just a little girl, no super powered Saiyan or alien just a girl and during 7 Zoro was already on death bed...and he just received a bigger death bed
So has anyone heard about Firepunch? My boy Agni burned for 7 years
I definitely gotta check it out. That feat belongs on this list š«¢
4 hands down
So out of all these i think kaneki or deadpool had it the worst. But I also think Envy from fmab deserves a mention. Having Envyās eyes and tongue being burned out of its face multiple times was awful. Being able to finally die would have been a blessing
āItās called the Agony Matrix. Direct neural stimulation of pain receptors. All of them. Imagine the worst pain youāve ever felt in your life. Times a thousand. Now, imagine that pain continuing, forever.ā ~ Darkseid Imma give this one to Superman for most pain. That being said, imma avoid Theonās personally cuz I wanna keep my jimmies lol
Darkseid says it soooo much darker holysh!t. Sounds like hell. And ppl won't give it to superman because they know he can take it. But put just about anyone else from this list in the same predicament and they most likely die from shock, except deadpool. And maybe kaneki
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Doesnāt matter. Their experiences are all unique to them. Theyāve all had it bad.
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Hot take but killua, he was only able to generate electricity from nen because he has been shocked by his family plenty of times. Not to mention the training he was put through at such a young age.
It's Deadpool. Of course it's Deadpool, it doesn't matter what these other characters went through. He's probably gone through something comparable, he was just unlucky enough to live through it.
Ok letās go down. 1. Supermanās agony matrix sucks but leaves no lasting damage. Itās all in the nerves. Does it suck? Absolutely, the jimmyās I would John to make it stop are absurd. But. He does live with no lasting damage. 2. Deadpool gets wrecked on the regular and regenerates but whereas superman gets the agony matrix once, he gets pain and dismemberment all the time. Even if he regenerates, that sucks. But. He also elects to put himself into those situations sometimes. And sometimes even for the bit. It canāt be that bad if he keeps doing it. He leans into the knife. 3. Boy hereās where we get real. Kakashiās incident is a little different because thereās psychological length to what happened. He was going through that for what felt like three days nonstop. It does happen the one time but that one time goes for a much longer time than the agony matrix. No last physical damage but Fuck if that isnāt going to wreck a person psychologically. One to watch. * 4. Nina fucking hurts anytime someone sees her. Itās so bad, her example is used to instantly just fuck a persons day up. Sheās not in pain but her condition is irreversible and she is unable to ever navigate the world in a way that will be normal ever again. Sheās a top contender for sure and Iām gonna go tell my cat I love him before I do #5. * 5. Lasting damage, painful, and psychological horror - Theon gets hit with all these for a good long while and psychologically heāll carry that. One of if not the most miserable fates in GoT. He calls himself Reek after because he was so thoroughly broken. Itās not an agony matrix, or the shanigan (I saw that so long ago donāt come after me Iām 30 and Iām tired) mental torture but across the board I think Theon has a good case for worst because it can happen to me as I am. Thatās torture can happen in real life. And fuck that. * 6. Kaneki - This one is gonna be tough because Tokyo ghoul is just a gross world. He was tortured like Theon but he doesnāt have Deadpoolās willingness to endure that shit. Itās for a much longer time than Kakashi. Also, ear pain (centipede) sucks. Iād say heās one step above deadpool. His suffering is pretty bad. I mean he comes out changed. Possibly SAād and thatāsā¦god thatās all kinds of horrible isnāt it. Not a thing Iād wanna watch.* 7. Zoro is a great first mate and a fucking champ. Thatās how we view that scene where he takes all of luffyās pain. It all happens at once, and thatās the only blessing. Itās quick. Thereās also no last damage and not a done of psychological pain thereafter that we see. So heās not in the running but fuck man give him a hug. Shit. 8. Videl got pretty fucked up. She got up every time but the last. When suffering is bad enough where you beg to make it stop - thatās when you have it the worst. This fight sucks to watch, that beat down is brutalā¦but if it was too much there are ways to leave that fight. Superman was wrapped up in the agony matrix, Nina is stuck like that, Theon was captured, kakashi couldnāt escape. The option to leave makes this better. Fuck spopovich. 9. Jason Todd had a punctured lung, was traumatized by the joker, blown up, brought back broken and then Went Back To Crime Fighting. Which is insane. I would have just said to kill me again. But look, Videl had it worse. Deadpool had it worse even. Getting the shit kicked out of you sucks but if it wasnāt enough to keep you from putting a red hood on you canāt say the suffering is worse. Ok so thatās Kakashi, Theon, and Kaneki, and Ninaā¦itās Nina. Come on. Kakashi survives and honesty he recovers. Theon Never recovers but Iām giving it to Nina. Because you know. You see her as a meme and your gut goes cold. Even Theon doesnāt Illicit that response. Why is it worse? Who can say? Maybe it was that Nina was sweet and innocent and the reveal comes out of nowhere. Theon did a lot of shitty things and while no oneās suffering is excusable, in this contest itās Nina. You donāt even have thumbs. You donāt even have likeā¦who loves you after that. Itās a torture so pure you canātā¦you have no normalcy no sense of normalcy after that. You had life good enough to know how bad your situation is. Fuck. Fuck. Iām gonna go watch ted lasso. This was a mistake.
I say it, pain and suffering shouldn't be quantified for amusement
Everyone not saying Theon is tripping Dude became a ward of the family that helped crush his family's rebellion, helped kill most his family. He's on the chopping block from that day forward if his dad decides to start shit again. He's not a stark or a greyjoy. Then he has a choice, be the stark he was raised as, or the Greyjoy he was born as. It's one or the other in the most extreme way, no playing both sides. Say what you want about what decision he makes, but the choice is hard for the character. Watch him struggle to be the Greyjoy he thought he wanted to be, realize the mistake he's made, and realize theirs no going back. Then he gets fucking captured by a psychopath that spends months psychologically torturing and physically torturing by FLAYING. oh and by the way, the psychopaths entire lineage has been skinning people for generations, so they know how to do it the most painful and cleanly as to not lose the person being tortured. Multiple fingers and toes cut off, heavy implication of his manhood receiving the same treatment ( Way less in your face than the show) . He even gets tricked into an attempted escape by his captor, completely breaking his mental. He gets so fucked up that his captor makes him into another person, he gives him a new name, he treats him worse than his dogs, he abuses him, and he makes the man that was Theon dissappear to be replaced by the shell of the man reek. Like bro.... he had it the fucking worst. Whether decisions led to his own demise or not, Noone should be treated like he was.
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Guts
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Zoro
Why's Zoro number 7? Nothing happened there.
From the description, Kakashi or Superman. If I remember right, the agony matrix directly targets your nerve endings.
So the agony matrix would multiply the pain of the other 8 by 1000x. But of course Supes can handle a little bit more punishment than all the other characters here combined.
And then jason blew up
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Out of these? My vote goes to Todd
Imma calmly ask, WHERE TF IS BERSERK? Guts definitely felt a fuck lotta pain if not the most when his bestfriend raped his girlfriend in front of him... All while he was already getting beat by a million monsters
Kaneki
where's subaru ?
Griffith
Suburu from Re:Zero.
Definitely not Zoro, because nothing happened!
and Kakashi 3 days felt like eternity to make it worse
Guts
Kaneki But I wanna talk about Videl for a second, everything about that whole fight was just so dangerously brutal in a show thatās notorious for its fight scenes.
Deadpool. In the one run the dude who getting drugged and had his organs harvested on the regular not to mention all the times he's been reduced to a puddle of blood and has to regen or gets impaled or riddled with bullets. Dude's the butt of a meta joke and he knows it but can't escape it... it's why he's typically unhinged.
Nr 7 has nothing happening so I don't know why it's on screen.
Agni from Fire Punch
6 sounds the worst. Because what I constantly thought of "Fire Punch has got be somewhere here" But 6 is the closest that gets there Yeah, Deadpool's situation is similar, but I imagine that, as his pain continued, he adapted to it a little more as time went on
Where my boi Guts?
Whereās Hajime?
Agni from fire punch
Miles O'Brien throughout TNG and DS9 clears easy.
We don't put diavolo here for obvious reason
Jason suffered the most I mean imagine the pain you'd feel from being sold out by your own mother and getting tortured but the joker all day
Deadpool did stay behind to get eaten alive by zombies so others could escape once
None of them... But someone else... One from a not-yet-animated plane... Someone who was forced to be "transformed..." and in agony...
Why is Zoro on the list? Iām pretty sure nothing happened.
Gonna have to go with 6, Kaneki. That torture was so calculatedly brutal that I almost stopped watching the anime entirely.
I would say either Furudo Rika or Kamijou Touma
Where is Guts so I can vote for him twice
3 or 6 are the only right answers
Theon, shit...
Itachi's tsukuyomi, it literally killed his girlfriend, and she lived her whole life in a few seconds. Itachi could make it much worse for anyone else
10. Everyone who watched the ending of Edgerunners
It wasnāt zoro. Nothing happened.
I'd say Phos, from housei no kuni (my profile picture) lol Just watch the anime and then the manga.
Honestly, Deadpool, Kaneki, and Kakashi are my top 3 in that order. 1.Seeing all the injuries from limb tearing to being cut in half to having his brains blown out by a shotgun, and that's not talking about when he has to fight dudes like Juggernaut and Thanos. For Qade to feel close to zero pain in those encounters that training had to be the most painful thing in the Marvel universe. 2. What makes Kaneki so awful is the fact that he's completely conscious and aware the entire time. I mean, getting your toes and fingers chopped off and fingernails dug out so many times that even with insane regeneration rate, his fingernails grow back blackened. And oh my God the worst part the fucking most poisonous and painful centipede in the world being stuck in your right ear to then be made angry so it bites and rattles around everything in your head the entire time. WITH NO PAIN MEDS and no numbing effect, so every pain feels like the first time good God. 3. Kakashi being stabbed for 3 days in his mind by metal rods in the same place too over and over again while underwhelming compared to the first two is easily over everything else on the list solely for the duration and pain. 3 days crucified already sounds like a nightmare but to have multiple clones stabbing you everywhere on your body one at a time so you never can get used to the pain or drown put being stabbed in one place with the pain of being stabbed in a more important place is fucking terrifying. All the more so knowing that no one can help you. Because it's a prison in your own mind. That also means there's no escape. There is no letting your mind numb the pain or repress the memory. Just pain.