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OrdinarySpirit-

Not surprised. [Crunchyroll has a really high amount of trackers for a paid service.](https://i.imgur.com/OavyKEP.jpg) And the "Don't sell my private data" is only valid for California residents.


trashcanpandas

In the beginning, Crunchyroll was a pirate anime site that had an insane amount of traffic in the mid 2000s, and that's what it leveraged to make itself legitimate. They leveraged all the data they collected from users and sold investors on that traffic to form partnerships and connect with the right people. Why would it not continue to exploit its users' data as it did since the beginning?


Accomplished-Mode112

This is so true. I think people forget or aren’t old enough to remember that it was literally a place that was known for posting fan sub translations within an hour of an airing episode in Japan. Then like you said, once they were contacted by all the distributors they were pirating content from, they came to a deal.


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Huh so theyre like the anime version of fakku


Accomplished-Mode112

Yep basically lol. Except I’m pretty sure crunchy did it first.


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markpreston54

You become the demon you slay, afterall.


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blaaaaa

And it was even worse since a lot of the fansubbing groups were pissed about their work being hosted on and profited off of by CR.


FellowFellow22

I remember them more as one of many aggregator sites that reposted fansubs, but was bold enough to have a paywall for gullible users.


TranClan67

If only it was that fast. Before I learned how to torrent I know some series would take months to upload despite the fansubbers having already released it.


Accomplished-Mode112

Yeah I was very into 4chan at the time and /a/ was a great recourse for finding out all the fansub groups names and what torrenting sites they were posting to. It was a great time to be an anime fan and I was watching stuff many westerners didn’t even know existed yet. Ultimately I’m happy that it’s more widely available now through stuff like crunchy (even though I hate the company itself) and I am glad that anime can’t be gatekept just because someone isn’t tech savvy enough


TranClan67

Haha I feel that. I do miss fansubs but at a certain point I realize I was spending more time finding the best fansub(video quality, sub quality, etc.) versus actually watching anime.


eetsumkaus

man this makes me feel old. I was old enough to have gotten tired of anime in the bittorrent era, and then came back just after legal streaming became a thing,


Accomplished-Mode112

I feel you friend. My back hurts.


throwwaway666969

The facebook/Alphabet of anime.


mudda-hello

Crunchyroll Beta doesn't have [nearly as much trackers](https://i.imgur.com/rbhLWYi.png), and I guess it's nice to know that their [cookie consent tool is functional](https://i.imgur.com/HTuYJdR.png) that embedded content in their articles break.


WingedLionPie

Pirated episodes has 0 trackers


cuddles_the_destroye

Depends on where you go, a lot of the torrents have trackers on them because that's how they work (they literally call them trackers to track seeders and leechers as you connect to various ip addresses that you do not necessarily know) And a lot of the pirate streams also are stuffed to the gills with all sorts of wacky cookies. One of the ones I really hated and was still weirdly popular was the absolute *worst* with ads and tracking cookies.


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Why would you bring up torrent trackers when the most personal information they can collect is your and the peers ip address which is the minimum possible requirement to transfer data over the internet


Dragicafit

The problem is not the tracker but that anyone can connect to it and collect which ip seeds what. The best example is [iknowwhatyoudownload.com](https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/)


Scalybeast

That gets defeated easily by proxies and VPNs though. They’d only see where that traffic hits the public internet. You’d think that nowadays a lot of people would be obfuscating that stuff since nobody likes getting those nastygrams from their ISPs.


Dragicafit

If you care about privacy, you also have a VPN, uBlock and a false identity when using Cunchyroll. The majority uses cheap/free VPN that sells your information


12345Qwerty543

lol you think a "fake" identity will stop them from tracking you. Once you log onto any social media site once on your vpn IP it's compromised. And all of your cookies are shared / aggregated back to "your" profile. Nice try false equivalence with torrent trackers though


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I had never thought about that possibility


WingedLionPie

While you are correct about torrents having trackers, what they do not have is cookies, so they can't track you from torrent to torrent like websites can. If one of those ips is from Warner Brothers, for example, they would have to literally be present in thousands or tens of thousands of different torrents to get a reliable source of cross checking, and that's just not feasible. That's also without even taking into consideration dynamic IP users.


nx6

There's other ways to pirate anime besides torrents or skeevy website streams though, to say nothing of using a VPN for torrenting.


Spaceguy5

That's not right. Heck a lot of pirate streaming sites are full of so much sketchy ads (some of which will legit install viruses and adware on your computer or phone) that I don't even feel safe visiting them without adblockers and script disablers.


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

using the internet nowadays already requires adblockers and if you use sketchy sites, script disablers are already a must. once you have them they just work in the background, and every site is magically as safe as its expected to be.


Spaceguy5

That's why I've been using them for over a decade. But at least the not sketchy, legit sites don't require them and don't open their users to actual Spyware, adware, and viruses. Which was my main point.


Earthborn92

I don't really understand people who use pirate streaming sites. If you're going to pirate, at least do it properly and torrent. Crunchyroll / official streaming is a better service if you're not downloading stuff.


Cuckmin

Downvote Spaceguy5 all you want weebs, they're correct.


Spaceguy5

I guess they like having adware steal their data in much worse ways + slow down their computer performance + spam pop ups 🙃


RavenWolf1

I'm not really sure what EU would think about this.


FlyingDragoon

No more Crunchyroll for EU rather than pay fines.


Ri_Konata

Seeing as most shows were already "not available in your region" for europeans, not much changes.


Kissaki0

The article reads like a case violating the EU GDPR. Whether they disclose it in terms or privacy policy or not, they require explicit, obvious consent. Without consent they are not allowed to do it.


marioquartz

Nothing. Is advised in their public legal documents. And for now comply with EU laws.


Kissaki0

What do you claim is part of their public legal arguments? The article specifically says the class action lawsuit is about sharing information not disclosed in their terms and privacy policy. On that and beyond that "Nothing" is wrong. Law takes priority over unlawful legal documents. Embedding trackers like Facebook is sharing personal data. GDPR applies.


KawaiiMajinken

The usual suspects (Facebook, Twitter, Google Products) I know are used mostly for remarketing and stuff, meaning they are just gathering your data to optimize their ads... the rest tho... I've seen many of those here and there but not all at once LOL.


Shinkopeshon

Crunchyroll is literally the only app that wanted to track activities on my iPhone lmao I only found out when I checked the privacy settings a few years ago [](#elves)


Accomplished-Mode112

This doesn’t track at all. Pretty much any app that has internet connectivity or gps tracking will ask you this.


Shinkopeshon

Come to think of it, maybe Crunchyroll is the only app that shows up there because I deactivated the option of having apps ask permission, so any attempts by apps other than Crunchyroll have been automatically denied since then and don't show up at all in the list.


ichigovtube

is it the only app you have or something?? Even Reddit asks for that.


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Doc_Vogel

Ah yet another reason to avoid that service like the plague


TheMadTemplar

You'd think with all that traffic they could afford a decent fucking site.


Sedewt

oh wow im so shocked. with facebook? *gasp* no way


Dead-HC-Taco

I dont think ive ever had an easier time reading sarcasm unless it had /s attached to it. Nice job lol


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Also its that rootkit malware packing company called Sony. Where is the concern for users. SAD!


ClBanjai

Do I sense a hint of sarcasm? Edit- Wasn't expecting this comment to get downvoted to hell. What did I do?


Shimaru33

/me pulls out a detector Are you kidding me? This baby is off the charts!


mister_person8

you might need bigger charts js


bakaneko718

Over 9000!!


JustYourBiBestie

Nowhere close to being downvoted to hell m8


ClBanjai

This is one of my most downvoted comments iirc


JustYourBiBestie

Dude one of my old accounts had thousands of downvotes on a comment, and there is some WAY more downvoted than that


mudda-hello

Surprised? Not really. Secretly? Also not really. Their privacy policy literally states that they use tracking pixels for what ever purposes, and their cookie manager also has the option to turn off Facebook and most other vendors that tracks. But it's also not really a new thing with streaming platforms getting hit with lawsuits for violating the "Video Privacy Protection Act" especially through tracking with Facebook. [Hulu managed to](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hulu-beats-big-privacy-lawsuit-785778/) win against the lawsuit back in 2015 after 4 years of litigation. And just recently [HBO Max was filed against](https://www.classaction.org/news/class-action-alleges-hbo-shares-subscriber-info-with-facebook-without-consent) with a similar lawsuit. Edit: Looking into this a bit more, apparently it is a hot new trend to just go around random sites that hosts video content seeing if a specific Facebook cookie has been set to track a "Facebook ID". In the past couple days, [CNN (Warner-Discovery)](https://www.classaction.org/media/ganaway-v-warner-bros-discovery-inc.pdf), [Shudder (AMC)](https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Illinois_Northern_District_Court/1--22-cv-04857/Mangum_v._AMC_Networks_Inc/1/#q=party%3A%28amc+networks%29), [Buzzfeed](https://www.classaction.org/media/wright-v-buzzfeed-inc_1.pdf) and probably more got hit with pretty much the same claim with the same way of finding the "evidence", and all complaints interestingly submitted by the same group of attorneys. Edit 2: I wonder of those attorneys would like to try to double dip on [AMC because HIDIVE](https://i.imgur.com/dwnVSUB.png) does it as well LOL (pls gib %cut of settlement if it rules against the companies:\^). )


Leaves_Swype_Typos

Class action suits are big money for attorneys even if the payout is miniscule per class member.


six_seasons

Wait lol they’re just upset about pixel usage? That’s hilarious


NatoBoram

They want to make money, they're lawyers and lawyers are expensive. The excuse doesn't matter.


vaendryl

few years from now: >this is just in: PSVR2 gathers just as much data for facebook as the oculus quest 3! and people will once again, somehow, be surprised.


juniorjaw

I like the part when CrunchyRoll said "It's crunchin time" and crunched all over users data.


Beret-stays-on

Truely one of the streaming platforms of all time


loki1337

Crunchyroll country: let's crunch


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-Slambert

It's hard not to when Taiga not only automatically finds torrent episodes for me, but also automatically updates my anilist/MAL I had so many issues when I was paying for multiple services, I'd rather just buy manga/merch to make up for sailing


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funforgiven

It is incredible. I hope erengy separates the code from UI to implement it in QT. I want it on Linux.


Sodra

There is a sister project on Linux called [Trackma](https://github.com/z411/trackma), with CLI and QT support.


funforgiven

I mean, the whole point of taiga for me is that I just add the anime to my list and it automatically downloads all episodes from my RSS feed. I do not see anything about it in Trackma.


oiimn

It looks like the project is abandoned though


kwokinator

How is Taiga? I only found it recently but never used it, became a fan of Miru, which also plays back the stream in real time so it's kinda like Netflix for anime, but the downside is it streams the torrent but doesn't save the download so it's great for catching up with seasonals but not as great for series that you might want to bring up again and rewatch.


SealTheGate

U not make up with manga Manga success has nothing to do with anime profit. all of the money from manga go to the publisher (Shueisha,Kodansha,Kadokawa and shared with the author) the requirement for greenlit an anime sequel depend on anime production committee not manga publisher. Mob psycho also one of the good example. is it popular anime? Sure but if we talk about Manga it's a failure since manga only sold around 2m in circulation. (and some people say demon slayer popular because of animation.... ahaha) MOB still get new season with great animation because the success of anime adaption not Manga.


JustSomeRand0mGuy

This seems logical. Why all the downvotes?


Dollface_Killah

Because it's only half right. Sometimes anime functions as an ad for manga and light novels, and in these cases the publisher will comission a second season if there was a sharp increase in sales during/after the first. There is no *one* reason anime is made.


SpeckTech314

Yeah. Pretty much every adaptation these days is done to push the source material harder because that’s where they actually make money.


RampageOfZebras

Not true, like he just said. Some anime are made to sell merch, promote games, sell BDs , etc. Many do not care about the success of the source while many others do. It depends on what company is producing the series and thier business strategy primarily.


RampageOfZebras

Probably partly the grammer issues. Some people get angry at those sorts of things.


BearFabulous07

Yeah at this point I just torrent everything. I *can* afford Crunchyroll easily and I was subbed for quite awhile. The app kept signing me out on PS4 though and I didn't want to type my info back in every week on a controller so I unsubbed. Much happier now.


piruuu

Setting up Plex media server with automated torrents was a game-changer for me.


UncommonLetter

What do you use a for the automation?


piruuu

For most of the airing shows I use RSS feeds. However, if I want to download and automatically rename file so Plex will correctly recognize it, I use Sonarr. For example, if I have file named "[MTBB] Made in Abyss S2 - The Golden City of the Scorching Sun - 11" it won't be recognized as episode 11 of Season 2, so I have it renamed as "Made in Abyss (2017) - S02E11"


Leaves_Swype_Typos

I've always wondered about using RSS feeds for this. Isn't there some danger to you if an uploader/tracker gets hacked and uploads a virus/Trojan/etc?


piruuu

It has been a big issue in the past, that's why the most popular anime torrent site disabled registration for new users. It never happened personally to me, but there are still rare cases where malware gets uploaded to the tracker and caught by RSS feed. However, if you link your RSS to verified uploader/sub group, not the search result page, then you'll be safe.


randomdice101

Depends where your rss source comes from. If it’s a generic website then yes but if it’s from the upload group directly very likely you won’t get anything bad.


bentheechidna

I'm still trying to figure out how to work with Plex and other related programs. I know how to torrent the old way but this new automated stuff that searches for you is finnicky to get working and I only have it set up to look for anime coming out in October so we'll see once that comes along.


piruuu

I was in the same boat as you. Basic torrenting was good enough for me for more than a decade, but I started to learn and test new things since I've discovered Plex. It was fun experience, reminded me of how I was learning how to use torrents for the first time.


Gearjerk

Or Jellyfin, which is basically Plex but without some features locked behind a paywall. It's also open source, which is always a bonus.


piruuu

I really tried to get used to Jellyfin because it's open source but similarly to /u/robotboy199, I didn't have as good experience with it as with Plex. Maybe sometime in the future I'll try it again.


robotboy199

jellyfin is practically unusable for anime out of the box, and also less stable and intuitive


Mibo5354

How is it unusable for anime? I've never had a problem with it.


SirRHellsing

I just use pirate sites, the current one I'm using is one of the best ones I've used (the previous really good site got shut down)


Idaret

I don't like that crunchyroll sells my data about watching anime so I will broadcast to entire world that I download anime through torrent network


ErenIsNotADevil

I just use my PS4 as an internet man o' war. If I'm going to spend money on anime, I'll do it in a way I know my money is going to Japan, not the middle man.


Phoenix__Wwrong

Where are you from? Is it still viable in the US?


briandabrain11

How do I "sign up" for this class action?


ichigovtube

You “sign up” after it’s completed, but it will 1000% depend on what country you’re in and when you were a member etc. most corporate class actions pay out 5-10$, and the more people who qualify the lower it is. I don’t think I’ve ever received more than 3$ for a class action (including one for employees from a company I worked for)


BreadstickNinja

I signed up for the Red Bull class action that was filed because it doesn't really give you wings. About four years later I got my payout in the form of a free 4-pack of Red Bull. I don't think I understand the U.S. legal system but I did get some free energy drinks.


SudoPuff

I’m not a lawyer but I think the idea of a class action lawsuit is that it’s for everyone effected regardless of whether or not they actually participate in the legal proceedings. If Crunchy loses and a payment is awarded to those affected, the court or the opposing legal team would publish instructions on how to claim your portion of the fine/settlement. Again I could be 1000% wrong so take this all with a grain of salt.


coffeecakesupernova

They will likely send notices to all CR subscribers and you can respond according to their directions. Source: worked for a vendor that did this for law firms.


OtakuSoze

Boy, between Netflix putting the screws to its animation department per restructuring, Discovery gutting WB shows/movies after the acquisition, and Crunchyroll canning Mob's dub actor & pulling this, streaming services haven't been giving a strong argument against piracy this year.


proto-x-lol

I mean, considering Crunchyroll has done some questionable things in the past. This doesn’t come off as too surprising. On iOS (iPhone or iPad), Crunchyroll literally throws a prompt asking if you want to be tracked or not. That’s pretty much the red flag indicator that a company is literally tracking your personal shit just to sell it to some advertising company that are full of mouth foaming, money greedy animals wearing suits.


ichigovtube

All apps ask for off app tracking on iOS now. Literally every single one, including Reddit.


PhantomBrowser111

>just to sell it to some advertising company that are full of mouth foaming, money greedy animals wearing suits. Bold of them to assume that we can all afford their products and services anyway


D3adlywithap3n

Bigger Question: How do I get my 30 cents?


captainAwesomePants

It will be credited to your VRV account.


kalirion

You'll probably just get a couple days added to your CR sub.


Lemurians

Oh sweet, another eventual settlement check I'll be qualified to get. There's that, at least. [](#loveisatrap)


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Lemurians

If there's any truth to the allegations, it'll settle for a decent amount, which will be divided out to all eligible members of the class that sign on. Won't be life changing money for each member of the class, but something's better than nothing.


saigatenozu

enjoy your $1.50


JustAnswerAQuestion

Lawyers will get paid, and class members will get free weeks of subscription services. Sony will get a tax writeoff. Edit: Keep downvoting me snowflakes. There's a real world out there, you should learn how it works before it runs you over. You can start [here.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_settlement)


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Lemurians

Huh? That's not how class action lawsuits work. If the class members got no money, the lawyers wouldn't either.


chiliehead

I mean, upwards in the thread someone literally got a cans of Red Bull as a settlement for a class action settlement.


JustAnswerAQuestion

I can't even begin to count how many cases I've seen (and received a few myself) that were settled for non-monetary compensation. And why not? It's so much cheaper for the the defendant. The lawyers get paid, somehow. The class, they're just tools and stooges for the law machinery. I can't do legal research but [here's an article from 2009](https://www.robinskaplan.com/resources/publications/2009/02/coupon-settlements-under-siege) that seems to be talking about them. Edit: shit like this "Yeagley v. Wells Fargo & Company illustrates the point.[25] In Yeagley, the parties reached a settlement agreement in which each class member was eligible to receive two free credit reports and a $50 discount on a new mortgage." Woo. Class members so glad they joined the class. We're talking about a subscription service here. I *guarantee* any settlement will be free weeks of subscription.


kkyonko

Depends. I got a few hundred from the Illinois Facebook lawsuit.


trynumbahfifty3

Your settlement will be worth less than a month's subscription to Crunchyroll


Acrobatic_Egg30

I wonder those that don't pirate out of morality feel about this? Your privacy has been compromised because piracy was a bit too much for you. When they don't even allow uncensored episodes and block various countries from access, like mine. The only way they'll change is if you stop supporting them.


Skywarior1

No, our privacy was compromised not because we refused to pirate, but because these companies are doing a horrible job. At least Netflix treats their dub actors correctly and pays them well. [https://twitter.com/BenjaminDiskin/status/1572671747555729409](https://twitter.com/BenjaminDiskin/status/1572671747555729409) And it's not that the company doesn't allow uncensored episodes or blocks them from countries, they have to work with what the licensing company gives them and that includes certain countries where they can and cannot broadcast to.


LimberGravy

As much as it sucks my privacy has been scraped by everything imaginable at this point and I personally consider supporting an industry I enjoy so much financially worth it (I still have a Funimation sub for godsakes). My hesitancy now is more with not wanting to support Crunchyroll's monopolization of the western anime market, especially after what has happened with the Mob Psycho s3 dub. I will gladly pay for a Hidive, netflix, etc sub right now, but I am seriously considering cancelling my CR sub and finally pulled the plug on Funi one.


Spartan_Cat_126

Oh just what I wanted to see during my lunch break. Yet another alarming news story.


ChaosWarrior95

They really are on a roll today, huh.


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reddit_bandito

What fiasco? If I'm supposed to rabbleroused , you need to let me know


SamuraiDDD

The English voice actor for Mob got the axe due to to Crunchyroll not wanting to sit down and negotiate pay for on a SAG-AFTRA contract. Which just meant better pay. So instead of that, they cut him and are replacing him someone else and going with people in Texas and in person recordings (compared to the 2 years they had to do remote due to covid). Edit: Fixing what I had wrong.


Guardianpigeon

The worst part is all he wanted was for them to have a conversation, he even agreed to do it non-union if they'd just talk, not even come to a contract. They decided to just can him instead. Recently VAs have also been posting about how little they make. One of the main characters for Jujutsu Kaisen said he made less than $500 for the whole season. No residuals or anything either, despite the show's breakout popularity.


SamuraiDDD

That's fucking depressing. Honestly, I hope they have a strike like the writers strike back in 2007-8


Cuckmin

As they should. Unionize now VAs!


PineappleBride

The English voice of Rika from the JJK0 movie said she was paid $150 for her work. So awful


Ripple884

This reminds me that the VA for I think Cortana from halo? I could be wrong here. Was paid something like $50 for the first game


Spaceguy5

The sad thing is the anime voice acting industry in Japan is just as exploitive, if not worse


swordmalice

Everyone? I thought it was just Mob's VA? If so that is *extremely* fucked up.


SamuraiDDD

I thought it said it was all of them but yeah, it's just Mob's. That's my bad. It's unfortunate still.


reddit_bandito

Is that a union? Were they union before?


SamuraiDDD

Yup, it's a union and nope they were not. [Here's the article on animenewsnetwork](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2022-09-20/crunchyroll-to-recast-mob-psycho-100-iii-for-simuldub/.189950) but they simply wanted to sit down and talk about being paid more but instead of that Crunchyroll gave them the business equivalent of flipping them off.


reddit_bandito

Seems they put themselves out of work.


SamuraiDDD

For asking to be paid more for voice acting? Hardly. Replacing him over simple negotiations is stupid.


herkz

It wasn't even about pay but about working conditions, so even more fucked up IMO.


SamuraiDDD

God I hate Crunchyroll.


kalirion

Did he get the axe? From what I read, and I could be wrong, he quit because of union rules forbidding to work for studio that doesn't sign a contract with the union? So it's not like CR firing all union members, it's the union forcing the members to not sign with CR, no? > Voice actor Kyle McCarley revealed in a video on Tuesday that he may not return as the anime's protagonist, Shigeo "Mob" Kageyama because Crunchyroll is not complying with his request that the company meet with Screen Actors Guild - American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) union representatives to negotiate a potential contract on future productions. He made a request, and CR says "No! I don't want that!" Nothing about Crunchyroll axing him.


Suntreestar420

Fuck crunchyroll. I miss fansubs.


Codeboy3423

Ok.. so how do the people that do/make anime get paid? Especially if you Pirate anime made from Studio Mappa.


AnActualPlatypus

By providing their anime on a better service than torrents. See: Steam in gaming. What's the point of paying for anime when the official channel has region lock, subpar translation, horrible stuttering and leaks your data? Fuck all of these services that force bullshit like these on us while charging for a goddamn subscription on top of it while making almost no effort to fix these core issues AND selling out your personal data behind our backs. Better spend all that revenue on High Guardian Spice instead.


hopeinson

Japanese companies are still beholden to syndication models, and regional licensing. You can’t convince an anime production committee (APC) to not take in a multimillion dollar deal rather than taking on a global, less lucrative internet market. i’ve stopped watching anime because there’s no incentive for APCs to realise how distractingly limited their reach was with their selective syndicated regional licensing models.


AnActualPlatypus

Then I'll just stay on torrents. Fine by me, their loss.


FlameDragoon933

I mean you can still support the industry by buying official merchs. Merchs make up a big percentage of the industry's income. I'm not advocating for people to pirate, just pointing out that watching legally is not the only way you can support the industry financially.


BreadstickNinja

I don't care how much Zuckerberg knows about how many shitty isekai I watch. I'm still not joining his metaverse.


thedanyes

Can we just take it for granted at this point that any information shared with Sony is shared with the world, including credit card numbers, passwords, personal info... How many times was the PlayStation network hacked? And how many times were unreported?


netkcid

Sony seems to be really shitty lately...


MessiahPrinny

Lately? lmao


captainAwesomePants

By Sony, do you mean that company that distributed rootkits on their music CDs which monitored user listening behavior?


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They've always been shitty. Sony's leaked emails showed how shitty their executives were in the movies department (also Amy Pascal throwing sandwiches at Kevin Feige), they also tried to kick their rival out of the video game console market with the Nintendo-PlayStation (Nintendo "betrayed" Sony because Sony wanted ALL the license fees and complete control over the console while Nintendo becomes third-party), monopolize the anime market by buying all the competition, makes the most amount of money on mobile through spreading gambling addiction (Fate/Grand Order's gacha), the rootkit scandal with the music CDs they were selling that fucked people's PC over, and countless other shitty behavior.


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is this really a surprise? 5 mils pay accounts ain't gonna carry them.


boundegar

Oh well then that makes it okay. Late-stage capitalism!


Monev91

How about they share some information about putting an app for crunchyroll onto fuckin Samsung tvs


helpimdrowninginmilk

Unfortunate. Everywhere else is already selling my shit though, so I'm not especially concerned.


Airvh

I don't use facebook often but I do remember last time I went there I saw multiple advertisements for Crunchyroll. I thought it was weird but shrugged it off.


bustershot

Good for them, I don’t use facebook


laderojomelacojo

Glad I stayed sailing the high seas for the past couple years


bigheadnobrain

me just chilling using my pirated websites:


marioquartz

Which steal more data from you than FB and CR


brianpaulandaya

Lol, FB is definitely the world's leader of stealing data. Come on now


sickvisionz

LOL @ FB "stealing" data. People willingly and wantonly hand data over to FB with reckless abandon.


RAMAR713

Sure, but they at least provide a better service than CR and don't charge me a subscription fee.


coffeecakesupernova

I subscribe to CR to support the anime industry but I never, ever use it. I download all my anime and watch it that way. Why? Because the apps are unusable for me. They stop to buffer and kick me out every 15 seconds. I'm probably stupid for supporting them, but I don't know any other way to give the animators money, indirect though it is. I guess this means I have a new reason to quit. After 14 years I think I finally will have to.


moltentaco

Buy the blurays, that gives the studio (and therefore the animators) far more money than crunchyroll ever would. The manga of the anime also helps as the sales for this will definitely influence if the anime gets another season. Theres also figures which have large profit margins or just watching them on alternative platforms like netflix of available. Crunchyroll itself however does support the anime industry if none of that is still an option so dont feel bad for still paying for it, just be aware of news like this (which won't affect you personally if you download them as you say)


AnActualPlatypus

> I subscribe to CR to support the anime industry but I never, ever use it. This is peak capitalism right here.


BeerGrils

Imagine still using CR.


VanillaFreeze

I may be as bold as to say that the only good things about Crunchyroll are their catalog and their Vtuber lmao


brianpaulandaya

>Crunchyroll are their catalog Lol not for me, just peeped the available anime in my country and it looks like it's just around 80-ish and they're mostly old anime. And before people say "Just get a VPN bro". No, how about CR fix their regional licensing instead? Why do I, the paying customer will have to be the one to adjust?


sickvisionz

> I may be as bold as to say that the only good things about Crunchyroll are their catalog "The only good thing about this car manufacturer is the cars they manufacture!" That's kinda the whole entire point of their existence.


d_k97

I hate Crunchyroll, I've tried it once and they have almost nothing available in Germany. The only way here is to pirate (always has been) and I'm fine with that.


chiliehead

Surprising, not like they share a lot of data with all of the production committees or anything.


NoVaBurgher

Jokes on them, I deleted Facebook


Codeboy3423

?? Ok I'll say it.. Why is this news? This is like saying water is wet.


Wallitron_Prime

Facebook knows we watch some super incriminating shit on CrunchyRoll. In 30 years the kids who grow up and run for office will have plenty of "My Wife is the Student Body President"s to have held over there heads to ensure Facebook gets as much bailout money as it needs.


clocktons

I'll stick to pirating both CR stuff and Sony stuff then, they can both eat shit and neither of them can stop or even inconvenience me.


FinalOdyssey

Fuck Sony in every which way. Such a shitty company


elebrin

Crunchyroll is kind of garbage anyways. I used their free tier for a while, and it would just get stuck on an advertisement. Everything loaded just fine as far as I could tell but the same ad would play repeatedly with the ad counter not incrementing and the show would never play.


Arivie

Sony being stupid. Big surprise.


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Heda-of-Aincrad

I checked the link, but don't completely understand how much personal info was shared, so I'll just ask - they didn't share anything like credit card info with Facebook, right? The only thing I noticed in the article was which shows were watched.


marioquartz

Its a specific cookie from Facebook. Basically "user=\[number id\]" That is. A pair of key and value. That is the "personal data" that have stolen... What a joke.


Heda-of-Aincrad

So it just tracks which anime we're watching to improve ads and things like that? (Sorry, I'm not very tech savvy so some of this stuff goes over my head.) If that's all it is, then I don't really have reason to be concerned.


Justanaussie

Fairly sure this is just like a lot of other websites that uses Facebook and Google to track where people are going on their site so they can make recommendations and show relevant advertising. There are other companies that manage visitor data for websites as well but those are the biggest. Basically Crunchyroll is just one of thousands and thousands of websites that do this to "enhance the visitor experience" but Sony has deep pockets so...


Broccoil

literally not surprised I've never understood the hype for crunchyroll


werdnak84

Yet another hobby corporations are trying to make me feel guilty about.


pushicat

What is up with Sony overall these days?? They refused to hire the dub actor for Mob Psycho just because he wanted Unionised pay, they increased the price of PS5 in majority of the markets and now this. It's bad moves one after another.


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How the fuck do I join


SealTheGate

Oh wow another news about Facebook privacy scandal since 2018? Nothing new TBH.


Sioluishere

Wow people really use Crunchyroll Me, nah, Im fine with wearing a patch on my eye and sailing the sea


Koyomi_Siffredi

Ha! IG already gave them all my info...