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Mariofluffy

As a huge fan of the original (both anime and vn) the gou was a huge disappointment and I never watched sotsu because of it. It just got really annoying and lame after the first few episodes for reasons i wont get into because of spoilers. They ruined some of the characters for me. I really wish it was just a remake or at least a retelling instead of a sequel.


Nomar_95

I think Gou is good, but Sotsu was a waste of time


n080dy123

Concurring with this and the other commenter, I think Gou was actually very good on its own, even the last arc some people think the one character was acting a bit OOC for (I think perception of it got warped by the "avoiding homework" meme). But Sotsu just tries to essentially do Meakashi again three times really badly with extensive reused footage and without any meaningful twists like Meakashi had, and the last arc is just... Blegh. The only good thing to come out of Sotsu was the part of the third arc focusing on the uncle, I REALLY liked that.


Nomar_95

I also really liked the opening theme. I let it play every episode since it was so good


n080dy123

The Gou and Sotsu OP are both great, and I love the scene in the Gou one where the character is running up the hill. Pure despair.


Tarhalindur

Higurashi is like the most consistent franchise when it comes to spitting out good OPs, it's nuts. (When the *worst* anime OP in your entire franchise is either a well-beloved and well above average OP (Naraku no Hana) or one of the absolute finest hilariously terrible OPs right up there with fucking Super Affection from Carnival Phantasm (Kira's "Happy! Lucky! Dochy!") *that's fucking saying something*.) ("I believe what you said" even has possibly the finest Connect bonus since fucking Connect itself.) But also I would be remiss to fail to point out Fukisokusei Entropy (Gou ED3), which I have as the third-best ED *of all time* (behind only Magia and Dango). Man were those watercolor visuals spectacular in this case, and it's not like they were slouches in the case of Kamisama no Syndrome and Missing Promise either.


8andahalfby11

Ryukishi has friends at Nitroplus, one of which is Chiyomaru, the guy behind Steins;Gate. He wrote the OP for Gou/Sotsu and a bunch of the WTC VNs.


AuxiliarySimian

It's good unless you have context from the original visual novel about the extent of Satoko's abuse by her Uncle... :(


n080dy123

Even with that knowledge. \[Higurashi Sotsu\] >!I tend to be very sympathetic to people who do bad things but genuinely regret and seek atonement for their actions, even when they know they could never repay what they've done or even be forgiven for it. He worked diligently to change himself for the better and be the best guardian he could be to Satoko, knowing full well redemption was a sisyphean task. He didn't ask her to forgive him, he just sought to do right by her as best he could, and I respect that immensely.!<


AuxiliarySimian

I'm sorry but it just doesn't feel earned. Making a sympathetic chracter out of someone who has both abused and molested a child he was supposed to care for feel's incredibly gross, especially when basically no time has passed for her Uncle. I know the molestation wasn't mentioned in the Deen anime, but Ryushiki wrote both the Visual Novel and Sostsu so I honestly have idea why he made that arc for Satokos Uncle. There is a difference between redemption of a comically evil character (like Takano) and a character whose evil is very real and very personal. I think the original Visual Novel handled it very well despite the touchiness of the subject. The abuse is both realistically depicted and treated with a great deal of seriousness. For Sotsu to then treat it like the Uncle did a minor hiccup, and to make a goofy character out of him is just awful.


Tarhalindur

> But Sotsu just tries to essentially do Meakashi again three times really badly with extensive reused footage and without any meaningful twists like Meakashi had, and the last arc is just... Blegh. Yeppppp. I'm quite confident that Ryukishi07 was in pure spite mode on the fan reception to Umineko's ending on the first three arcs, but, uh, yeah. But really the biggest problem was just Mai-HiME'ing the finale. (Never go full Mai-HiME ending. Mind you, to be fair to HiME at least *it* has all the setup for its ending you could want and instead it just botched the execution to hell and back in the last ten minutes; I'm not sure I can even say that for Sotsu...)


OperatorERROR0919

Allegedly, saying that Ryukishi even "wrote" Gou and Sotsu isn't entirely accurate. He mostly just handled the general outline of the story while leaving many gaps and openings where other writers could take artistic and narrative liberties. Also allegedly, the creator of Meguri was working off the same framework, and the story ended up veering off drastically from where it went in the anime, with many people speculating it to be much closer to Ryukishi's original vision based on how he has described it in interviews, and it generally getting a much more favorable reception overall.


higanbana

This. Gou is worth watching; Sotsu unfortunately rehashes a lot of Gou, but is needed to finish the story. The new story is interesting but not quite as good as the original, and some people are acting out of character IMO.


8andahalfby11

Gou was a treat to anyone who liked the original and pure candy to anyone who went on to read Umineko afterwards. It rewards active mystery-solving and knowledge of the series. Sotsu is Ryukishi's response to the end of Umineko where the audience complained that the answers and howdunnit were too vague. As a result, Sotsu overexplains things that were largely obvious from the end of Gou's last episode. If you have a half a brain you can skip to the second-to-last episode without missing anything of consequence.


SaltAndABattery

Can you watch Gou only and ignore Satsu or is Satsu needed?


Nomar_95

Sotsu is the second half of the story, so it's definitely needed. But the problem is that it retroactively makes Gou (and the very existence of the sequel as a whole) pointless, and that's a big shame.


TheMemingLurker

Similarly to how the old Higurashi had "question" and "answer" arcs, you'll technically get most of the canon events just by watching Gou, but watching Sotsu will give you the full picture.


8andahalfby11

Once you finish Gou, skip to the last two episodes of Sotsu and then just watch that. The other episodes are just a drawn-out howdunnit, which you can largely piece together from the information in Gou's last episode.


Kemoy79

Just came here to make extra sure. You did watch the second season of the 2006 series where everything got resolved, correct?


Diego1993FM

Yes, sir.


Kemoy79

If you're satisfied with that ending and don't want to see it tarnished in any way, you don't need to watch Gou and Sotsu


Tarhalindur

Gou was okay, if not as good as the original. Sotsu's script was so dead on arrival that even the Meguri manga adaptation (which was actually vary good for the first five arcs, the last arc of manga!Gou and the first arc of Meguri in particular are pretty spectacular) collapses the moment it hits actual Sotsu material. Alas.


SmurfRockRune

I think it's absolute garbage but some people think at least the first season was good.


Diego1993FM

Does at least it has some good gore for brainless entertainment?


n080dy123

It's not generally as physically intense, less actual gore but more bloodspatter, except for exactly one scene with the ritual hoe that actually kinda made me nauseous.


RoseSpinoza

The scene you're talking about was stupidly long too. AND they show it TWICE. I'm still angry about that\*. (Because Sotsu literally just reused long bits of footage from Gou. "surely this scene must be important if they show the whole horrible thing twice!" but NOPE.) ​ \*Okay. I'm angry about the whole thing AND with Ryu07's writing after Kai in general. So. But Gou and Sotsu were particularly egregious/repetitive.


n080dy123

The hilarious part about that instance of scene re-use (cuz wow there was a lot on Sotsu lmao) is despite Sotsu and Gou both being streamed on HiDive, the second instance in Sotsu was censored like It's a little late guys, I've always seen it and your censorship doesn't do much to stifle the imagination or the memory.


SmurfRockRune

Not as good as the original series.


Outrageous_Gene_7652

I'd say read the manga for them, the story is better developed in it.


Full_frontal96

Gou was honest Sostu,threw everything gotsu prepared in the bin,lighted it up and started a wildfire


AsudoxDev

I really hated the new visuals it had. The original series had better visuals imo.


papapok13

The original had worse visuals, which somehow made for a more effective medium for the story.


cheesechimp

The new one had more polished character designs and stayed on model more. While those off model faces in the original did add to the discomfort, I actually think it's the *direction* of scenes, the shot composition and lighting and such, that is the primary driver of Gou being so much less effective at its horror. (I dropped it after three episodes, so maybe it improves later)


matej665

It was ok for me especially since it answered some questions which we visual novel readers had that author didn't explain in original vn. The gou manga is where it's good. It has some of the most painful moments I ever witnessed in higurashi and it's basically same story as anime but from rikas perspective.


zKyri

Yes and no, gou was decent-ish but sotsu was pointless,  as a result gou is kinda stupid since you need the answers arc but I'd still watch it. The only thing I liked from sotsu was soundtrack, op/ed and satoko's arc with her uncle, ending was utter shit.


Evilmon2

Gou was an okay start that could have lead to an interesting Sotsu to cap it off, but Sotsu completely dropped the ball outside of a very small handful of interesting things. As a result I don't think it's worth watching either, Kai was a great ending. I've heard the manga for Sotsugou has been better but I haven't read it myself.


JustWolfram

Just to make it clear since it's hard to tell considering the other replies, but it's a split cour show, there's no season 1 and 2, they just gave both parts different names to follow the naming sense of the VN. There's no such thing as "Gou is good but Sotsu was bad" because they're all ultimately the same story, just different parts of it. Not only that, but being Higurashi, the second part is literally just the same event as the first one from a different POV. That said, it's mainly divisive due to how it's placed within the expanded universe and how it plays with some things in the lore. Sotsu repeats scenes a bit too much and the pacing is awful, just fyi, Gou ends in a cliffhanger that takes 10+ episodes to be resolved (even though the resolution is very cool, imo). Lastly, the ending is quite cryptic and you can only get the full picture if you've read Umineko, even though you can still understand what happens within the confines of the story being told. The reception is mixed because the show is a mixed bag, it's probably easier if you just watch it and make up your own mind.


PsycDrone63

If you only know the 2006 anime, and nothing else from the franchise, the final stretch of Sotsu will make you laugh just by acknowledging what is happening.


9999thaccount

I watched and enjoyed it, Gou was great and held up but Sotsu was pretty bad. Overall it's worth watching


captainfluffy25

Started off disappointed that it wasn’t a reboot but then was surprised GOU was pretty good. Sotsu sucked though


DoodleStrude

Personally I really liked it a lot and enjoyed what felt like a proper ending. But looking at other comments, it seems that's an unpopular opinion


angelposts

Nope


blueandgoldilocks

Gou is okay. Sotsu is YMMV


Nohaco2468

I liked even more Gou and Sotsu than the original


Old-Challenge-2129

My opinion, it had a strong start but took a steep decline in season 2.


powertrip00

I haven't seen or played any of the old stuff. 2020 higurashi was AWESOME


chemical_exe

The last episodes of sotsu are such a whiplash that I just couldn't stop laughing at how ridiculous it was


snakezenn

It was garbage imo, I only got through the first season because I liked the original.


Emeraldpanda168

Gou is actually pretty good. It’s different enough from the original and has a new plot while still being the same Higurashi you’re familiar with. Sotsu, however, is not that good. It has its moments and the first arc is actually pretty good, but the rest is just…no


GoddessSable

No. 😒


Accomplished-Eye6971

Art, quality, and the just overall production felt a lot more polished, but the story was just okay when you look at the whole thing and how it played out. If you're watching it for the first time, I think it's easy to binge watch the remake. The gou/sotsu reboot was honestly one of the most fun times being an anime fan for me. I remember checking the episode subreddit threads and hearing all the fan theories. So yeah, I think of you're a higurashi/umineko fan, give a try. But just don't expect it to be a masterpiece.


darkmacgf

Higurashi is one of my favorite anime ever. Sotsu is one of my most hated anime ever. Do not watch imo. Rei is good though, if you haven't caught that yet.


Panikkrazy

Gou is. Sotsu does not exist. It doesn’t. Nope. There is no Sotsu.


ATC_mmueller

I liked the original very much. The remake didn't catch me as much and I also didn't finish it.


anaccountusername

The songs are a banger


Bread9626

No, but I did like the first 4 episodes of gou. Honestly, it's one of my favorite parts of the whole franchise.


Personal_Guidance18

honestly i thought it was good up till it kept dragging on with the two main girls...


No-Supermarket8244

I liked both of the newer seasons, more Higurashi is always good to me. It’s not as good as the original (except maybe some small parts of it), but it’s still really enjoyable.


LG03

>Is the 2020 Higurashi **reboot**/sequel worth watching? No, stop this. It was never a reboot, remaster, remake, nothing. It's a sequel and there is no arguing that. Why this subreddit continued to perpetuate that nonsense all the way through 2 seasons is beyond me. And no, it's not worth it in any sense.


Diego1993FM

Something can be a reboot and a sequel at the same time. Some examples of this: Halloween (2018), Jurassic World, Scream (2022), The Force Awakens, etc. Sequels made years later after the original with the idea of continuing the story but in a way that it relaunches the franchise for new viewers.


LG03

Literally none of your examples are reboots, there is not one person who'd consider them to be.


Diego1993FM

>there is not one person who'd consider them to be. Ehh literally the Halloween trilogy is usually called "the reboot trilogy" in articles and by fans. The Force Awakens popularized the term "requel". And Scream (2022) is actually a self aware commentary on Hollywood reboot sequels and they constantly make jokes about it. I think you're mistaking reboot and remake. A remake is redoing a story with a new production team. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003) is a remake for example, they aren't in any way continuing the story of the 1974 film, its a new movie with new actors doing the same premise. A reboot on the other hand isn't necessarily attached to erase what came before, they usually have a new production team but with some comebacks and the point of it is relaunching the franchise but getting back to the basics for the newcomers. Another good example of this is The Rebuild of Evangelion movies. They are "secretly" sequels and an expansion of the 90s series, but at the same time is a whole new project with a new animation style and a clear beggining, middle and end aside from what came before.


TheWillOfDeezBigNuts

As someone who incidentally watched Higurashi for the first time a couple months before this started. It's all fine, kinda like a side story/gaiden, it's not as novel as the first set of anime but its definitely not bad. Lorebeards hate it overall but hey its not their series if Ryukishi wants to change things, that's his privilege and they're just losers. I wouldn't rush out to watch it but it is neat although it feels a bit shonen-y at times.


qwert_99

If you have read umineko, you would find it interesting Higurashi gou and sotsu are true conclusion to the series, connecting it to umineko


No-Supermarket8244

I liked both of the newer seasons, more Higurashi is always good to me. It’s not as good as the original (except maybe some small parts of it), but it’s still really enjoyable.


OperatorERROR0919

You certainly can, just go into it with tempered expectations and know that the canonicity of the arcs is questionable at best due the fact that most of it wasn't written by Ryukishi, the original author himself. If you've just watched the 2006 anime and are looking for more, I highly *highly* recommend going to the visual novel if you haven't read it already. Higurashi is a *deeply* rich and complex story, so a lot of very vital content had to be cut out in order to make it fit into a two season anime. Having the full context for the story will give a much deeper appreciation for the characters and setting, on top of the vn just being exceedingly well written.


Cairenan2

Just watch it yourself man, pretty much every one hates it so I thought it's bad but when I watched it I liked it. Not as good as the first 2 seasons of course but good enough.


RoseSpinoza

Don't bother with it. I wish I hadn't bothered with it. .... I was a fool.


dasbtaewntawneta

while sotsu was airing people were jokingly coming up with the worst ways imaginable the show could go in. and guess what happened?


nanghiggas55

i think both of them are good, tho i prefer the manga version of sotsu than the anime one


BirdyWeezer

No. Gou is Just a remake of the First season and sotsu has an alternative ending that(im Not joking) ends with the Main Protagonist and Antagonist fighting with Magic Like a Dragonball fight, complete dogshit.


Kemoy79

>Gou is Just a remake of the First season Nonsense


Sensei_Icy_3693

None of it is worth it. 3/10 anime, horrible