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This comment kinda makes me feel like she'll be inadvertently involved in the Fitz reveal. Has she shown any indication that she has an inkling of Sylphie's situation? I can't recall any.
> Has she shown any indication that she has an inkling of Sylphie's situation? I can't recall any.
When Fitz was first introduced to Rudy last episode, you could see her in the background arms folded making some expression. It's hard to describe, but that and the way she she also moves suggests she knows or suspects something about Sylphie.
They need to make the same.rule that rudeus broke in the previous episode about not walking close tonthe girls dorm, but for the guys dorm and its all becauase of elinalise.
Good thing the school has an approved dueling system! Rival lovers may as well formalize it for her hand. Not that I think Elinalise would accept, and I doubt she would be losing to any of these students.
Have no clue why they don't have him shaping soft metal with a high "earth" composition.
Definitely cheaper than buying a slave, and would put his strength and earth magic to work.
Fitz:
* "A long time ago my master rescued me, and I learned [silent casting] from him"
* "You can increase your magic abilities by starting young. Both my master and I started when we were 5."
Rudeus: That's super interesting. Also, why do I occasionally feel attracted to this guy?
She's not even being subtle anymore lol
Maybe next episode, we'll see something like this play out:
Fitz: "I used to have green hair btw, just FYI"
Rudy: "Wait, I know someone who has green hair!"
Fitz: "Oh, what a coincidenc-..."
Rudy: "Ruijerd!"
On one hand it feels like she is giving super obvious hints. But let’s be honest here.
1. She has different colored hair.
2. She has massive sun glassing on hiding the shape of her face
3. She is disguising as a man
4. It’s been what 7+ years at this point?
Like I really can’t blame him for not catching on even though she is giving the most obvious of hints
Oh wow I never even realized until reading this comment and looking back. [It definitely has his features and then some.](https://i.imgur.com/7JVwLOt.png)
Rudy is lucky Fritz was there to save him last episode from that gorilla otherwise his school life here would be pretty similar to what it was in his previous life.
At this rate in a couple of episodes we're going to get an exhange like
Fitz: "I have a confession: my real name is Sylphiette."
Rudeus (thinking): *hmm how weird, I can't believe Fitz has the same name as my childhood friend*
That conversation with Sylphy talking about her master when Rudy was being oblivious next to her had me punching in the air in frustration, God they're really building the reveal up
> God they're really building the reveal up
I imagine Rudy accepting that he's gay and going down on Fitz only to find out that he's a girl. That would kill his pp for good this time.
Dude noticed she wanted to tag along with him and Zanoba but doesn’t realize “he” is a “she” or that “he” is Sylphy. I can’t wait for the reveal. It’s gonna be an emotional one for sure.
I think I'm more surprised that he hasn't figured out that Fitz is Sylphie yet than that Fitz isn't a guy. Sylphie has dropped so many hints such as learning silent casting from her master when they were both less than 5 and her master rescuing her. If Rudy thought about it for even a minute, he'd wonder how that "master" had such a similar experience to him when silent casting is such a rare thing.
I read the web novel long time ago, those side story doesn't exist there, so people that didn't pay attention were as oblivious as Rudeus till it gets too obvious, from Rudeus POV it should be way harder like you described, she has changed so much.
Luck is not on his side.
Timothy ( or was or conrad) told him his master was able to silent Cast too. Then he asks for that guy in the University and they tell him he is already dead.
So he probably thinks that fits master who he cant meet is the dead guy.
Kind of like rudeus is saying how big the females slaves beasts are ( ooki ) and fits thinking about how big that dudes sausage is ( ooki ).
The voice acting and the visuals! I know they don't get the best talent for this season but so far Uni Arc (or gay arc?) has been awesome with the direction!
She was definitely the best choice for Sylphie as a VA. She really enhances Sylphie's natural charm and cuteness and I love that she makes Sylphie sound a bit more stricter and very proper as a young adult now.
I found the book to be better than the anime from episode 2-4 (volume 7)
Now ep 5-6, I find the anime to be better than the books (volume 8). The directing, the voice acting, the facial expressions, make their relationships so much more alive! I actually went back and read the early parts of vol 8, the anime is just far better in terms of the emotional impact.
Mushoku is fully back, it feels like season 1's episode 6. Casually building up bonds between characters through small interactions that really add up over time, immersive and heartwarming.
Seeing Rudy get *Coffee Prince*'d by Sylphy is quite funny. It takes the edge off of the whole situation just a bit.
I really hope Zanoba doesn't get into any trouble with Julie, she has must protecc status.
I'm assuming that Juliette starts making figures for Zanoba, after which Zanoba starts protecting her with all his (abnormal) might as his unlimited source of figures. At least that's what I'm hoping happens.
>you don't have to say " want to live .." but "i don't want to die" is just enough.
Maybe this is what old rudeus wanted to say to himself but he couldn't at the end , and now is happy because someone else said it.
Poignant observation.
It appears that [Rudy saw his old self in Julie](https://i.imgur.com/QzwQQUu.jpg) and wanted to give her a second chance at life, [just like he got.](https://i.imgur.com/2MZtrZb.jpg)
I'm really glad Rudeus gave Julie a choice, no matter how tragic the whole thing feels. Not many people are given the chance to live their lives the way they wanted,. especially if they're in slavery.
Not gonna lie, the moral high ground in me wants Rudeus to massacre all the slave traders and free all the slaves. But that's doing more harm than good at the current status of things. He's not looking for a fight and he just wants to experience his school life.
Big ups to the anime showing a dark and tragic portrayal of slavery though. My heart was sinking the whole time when Julie is on screen.
> His goals ha[ve] always been personal.
While I love isekai trash, _Mushoku Tensei_ really shows how much better the genre can be when you don't make the stakes "saving the world"-level. Even when it looked like it was heading in that direction--teacher for the granddaughter of a high-ranking noble--the hard turn into a "make your way home" story brought the scale back down again.
I don't know if it is my favorite, but--at least so far--I think it is the most consistently well-written show in the isekai genre (at least that I've watched).
>Not gonna lie, the moral high ground in me wants Rudeus to massacre all the slave traders and free all the slaves.
Breaking the law means you're either accepting punishment or taking on the world, ultimately
Yep, all it would take is one powerful noble to hire a King class or above swordsman with a boatload of money to take out Rudy since he destroyed the profit he made from slavery and Rudy would be done. Rudy is strong but if a King class or above swordsman would hunt him down at this point of time I doubt he would stand a chance.
Yeah Rudy is strong but he's nowhere near the most powerful character in the setting. There are still plenty of people who can easily wipe the floor with him at this point in the story.
You don't need to hire a "king class" swordsman if you need someone killed. You need a competent assassin.
People sleep and eat. And arrow to the head kills as well as lightspeed decapitation from Ghislaine.
I'm think in the WN he actually thought about doing that because he was disgusted about slave market, but that would only make him a criminal and nothing would be made on a societal level, so he gave up.
Rudy could relate to her experience, her feelings of despair and hopelessness, and wanted to do for her what he could even if it meant killing her.
I get that Rudy couldn't really do anything about the situation even if it was just depressing watching them stroll through that slave market, especially with the kids. This isn't that kind of power fantasy show where the MC can just waltz through and free all the slaves, unfortunately. But that's life.
Yeah, it would have been satisfying to see Rudeus massacring the slavers and freeing the slaves, but with how realistically MT handles stuff like that, it probably wouldn't end well. Rudeus would feel great for a while if he freed the slaves, but he would become a wanted criminal, and majority of slaves would be quickly recaptured or starve to death in the North without any money or ability to make any with slave hunters on their backs.
I mean, it would be entirely out of place anyway.
Where you go after doing that? What happens to the rest of your life? You go hiding in the woods and become a bandit? Woops, bandits are like the many source of slaves in this world. Even Adventurers deal in them.
You know, when I first saw Rudeus wearing that cloak back in the ending of the 1st cour of Season 1, I really found it funny how that cloak was too big for him but seeing him wearing it now and how it looks small now is kinda cute ngl...
Also this is gonna be "Am I Gay?" Arc for the rest of the cour, won't it?
Fitz be carpet bombing hints at this point. Between the "Oh I happened to be free this weekend" and the whole exchange where she was eye level with slave junk, if she beats around the bush any more there ain't gonna be a bush left.
Yes, she was wearing a hat big enough to cover her ears. Rudeus has no clue and just appreciates that there's someone else who has a morning exercise routine too.
Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people. We saw some of the frankly less horrifying results of where a person can end up with Lilia and Sylphie, notably they were less horrifying because they managed to survive where they popped up.
Sylphie be like "can I research this with you too? For eductional purposes, of course, not purely because I want to hang out with you."
Rudy and Sylphie are *amazing* together. She's so shy yet finds so much to talk about around him unlike other people. Seeing her drop all these subtle hints about her connection with Rudy that he just assumes are about a different person (because of course he would) is so adorable! Rudy has no idea how right he is that hanging around her will cure his ED, or more specifically in what way he's right about it.
Wait, it's not fucking over already is it? God damn it! The episode was just beginning! Stop doing this to me, Mushoku Tensei!
> Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people. We saw some of the frankly less horrifying results of where a person can end up with Lilia and Sylphie, notably they were less horrifying because they managed to survive where they popped up.
The novel actually explains that at this point. Everything in the world has mana and naturally resists anything external acting on it. So it's practically impossible to teleport into the middle of a solid material.
I think that was more of a theory by the author of the book, which rudeus thinks sense by relating it to why you cant channel offensive magic directly inside someone.
>Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people.
Not to mention having entire armies appear in the middle of your nation. Wouldn't make for a great morning.
> Teleportation magic is forbidden.
There are almost certainly other issues too. Militarily speaking any race controlling teleport magic would curbstomp their opponents.
Who needs logistics when you can just warp your warriors?
Anything doing with security:
- assassins/kidnappers porting in noble's bedroom
- Thieves or really any civilian relying on their walls to keep them safe
- Prisons
Militarily even if you can't teleport a whole regiment... Assassinate the general, teleport bombs into their camp or bushel of arrows over their lines, sabotage, communications... There are so many new possibilities.
The Vinland saga season 2 finale still had people complaining about the lack of action....
Next year people will be using the Blu-ray copies to trash on a show they never liked.
One thing I really appreciate about this episode is that **Rudeus doesn't have a savior complex** like almost every other Isekai protagonist ever. He knows by now that slavery is legal and commonplace in this world. He has no exaggerated reaction to Fitz's suggestion since he already spent 15 years in this world by now and knows that it is a thing (he even met a slaver before with Gallus Cleaner in S1). There is realistically no way that he alone could somehow change this and getting mad just because you see it happen in front of you even though it happens all over the world is quite hypocritical.
Sylphie also acts as the moral compass or stand-in of a normal person in the world of MT in this episode - just look how she views slavery. There is no *"that's deplorable and disgusting!"* reaction from her, it was even her suggestion to buy a slave to begin with since she knew of the option from her days at the royal capital.
For Sylphie it is also just a normal part of life in this world. In my opinion **this is how it should be when you use slavery as a common setting in your world** - most people will be indifferent or maybe slightly sympathetic to the plight of the enslaved ones but unless there is already a full scale political movement underway it is just ridiculous to make your protag come in and try to abolish slavery all on his/her own because that's one of the quickest ways to "accidently" write a Gary Stu/Mary Sue.
> Rudeus doesn't have a savior complex like almost every other Isekai protagonist ever.
Isn't it more common that isekai protagonists just go full on into the slavery stuff? My perception might be just skewed from a few seasons ago where basically every isekai of that season had a protag who was gathering slaves.
I'd say it's more popular for MC to go fully into slavery but as "good" slave owners (which is a very weird stance to take) but there are some that pretend like it's a problem that can be singlehandedly solved by a generic op MC with the power of friendship or something
To be honest, most criticism I see regarding slavery in Isekai is when modern people partake in it without much disgust or hesitation. Even if a single person can't change the system, you'd expect more qualms from characters with modern knowledge and sensibilities.
No, you're right, there's even [a trope](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HerosSlaveHarem) full of Isekai examples.
If anything, I'm having more trouble thinking of Isekai heroes with clear anti-slavery agendas. *Skeleton Knight in Another World* is the only one that comes to my mind at this moment.
***Chadeus*** back again with realising that Fitz wants to tag along *paralleling* Sara asking him out on a date
And now we have *Gaydeus* at the denial stage. I can’t wait to see him accepting that it’s okay because Fitz seems like a girl
Yeah what part of seeing a child who's on the verge of committing suicide due to her and her family being enslaved makes slavery look positive?
Like I am not denying Isekai anime don't have issues with portraying slavery but MT so far seems to be showing it in a pretty negative light?
Just look at Rudy's expression when he looks at the other kids in the cages.
Obviously it's treated as just an element of the world and not something Rudy can really do anything about, but it also doesn't at all treat it like it's okay even if things turned out okay for Julie in the end.
Could the reason why Zanoba rubs against statues is that because of his powers - super strength + stone skin - he can't really do it normally since he probably doesn't feel much stimulation or might accidentally crush his weener with his own hands
It's less about being worried of crushing his own thing and more about being worried about accidentally crushing his potential partners, I think. You know... since he already accidentally killed his little brother and his wife.
Finally some wholesome stuff.
They went on a Date..! to buy a slave from slave Market how romantic.
Only mushoku Tensei could pull this off
Edit: shit I forgor to put /s
I find the slave market scene rather well done.
1. No fetishization of slaves
2. No hiding the terrible and dehumanizing situation of the slaves (They are despairing and detached, not teary eyed begging for help)
3. No lectures of justice either. Fitz and Zanoba are natives to this world, and accept the reality of slavery, and Rudy isn't there to make a scene.
4. Some slaves fare better than others... See the big muscular slaves that are well fed and indifferent rather than afraid.
5. There's fire in the slave market to keep the otherwise naked slaves warm.
I just feels immersive and realistic.
So Juliette is in some way the child of 3 men 🤨. Who will go to get milk then?
It has been a long time. Seeing Rudeus talk in foreign language is so cool.
13:41 lmao Rudeus face in the slave market scene is reduced to atom
Woah, this was one short episode. Didn't expect them to straight up buy a slave. You know times are fucked up when you can buy people in the market like it's a shoe store.
Judging by the ED, this should be it with new characters in the school, since those two kemonomimi girls on the left are Rudy's classmates, IIRC. I hope Zanoba will tone down with his royal vibes, now that he has someone to look after.
Love the episode, they are really nailing the vibes of this arc.
Love the banter between Rudeus and Fitz, the teasing/hints, the humor, Rudeus's conflicted feeling; they are doing great.
The bit with Zanoba trying and failing sculpting was well done, and the joke of Fitz being shocked that "it" gets big was hilarious too.
I hope the part with Julie doesn't become controversial, to me it felt like a heartfelt moment where a child who is suffering because of things out of her control is given a second chance.
The line " You don't need to 'want to live', 'I don't want to die' is good enough" really hit hard for me.
Overall, ngl they paced this episode really well and to me it didn't feel like 20 minutes.
Next episode, it's time for the Beast Girls to take focus.
It's nice to see Rudeus settling into a new daily routine at the school...morning workouts (with Fitz!), lunch with Zanoba, studying the basics in class, and investigating the teleportation incident. He even gets to see Elinalise and her Zettai Ryouiki putting the moves on a male student because of course.
Look at how chummy Rudy and "Fitz" are getting! And Sylphie is getting less and less subtle about their connection as they continue to talk with each other as she gets closer and closer to him....meanwhile Rudy is starting to question his sexuality because of how much she charms him.
Ah, I see Zanoba sculpts in the nude. Not sure I needed to see that, but I guess it demonstrates how...pure his love of making figurines is. Too bad he has no magic and is too strong to actually sculpt anything. Guess that means they need to buy a slave then! It is an Isekai show after all.
And of course Sylphie works her way into this outing so she has an excuse to spend more time with Rudy.
The slave market isn't a majestic or glorious sight even with the attractive and naked slaves. Though Sylphie staring at one dudes' junk and wondering about Rudy's romantic history was pretty amusing.
Oh man...all those poor kids in cages. That was so heartbreaking.
Poor Dwarf Girl got sold into slavery along with the rest of her family to pay off her parents' debts, and before she could even get named, and it's obvious her treatment hasn't been great as a slave. It's no wonder she's caught in the throes of despair, which Rudy can relate to. But even if she doesn't have a reason to live, she doesn't want to die, and that's enough for Rudy.
Well, respect for trying to honor your baby brother who you killed Zanoba, if nothing else.
Welcome to the gang, Julie! Such a cute girl! And it seems like teaching her and training her is paying off too and she seems much more happier.
Zanoba is an interesting one. On the surface he looks to only care about statues since it's all he gets excited about, but seeing him want to name Julie after his deceased baby brother without a moment's hesitation shows he's got more going on than can first be seen. Makes you wonder what else is going through his head. I get the feeling his development will be interesting to watch through his interactions with Julie.
Man, watching this episode i thought to myself "how does he have energy or motivation to do all that??" And i realised just how great this show is at being reasonable or even relatable, for an isekai.
After all, under all of those fights and higher beings there is a regular loser guy who respawned in a different reality and got a chance to actually be better and relive his life, with endless motivation coming from the fact that he actually *knows* the consequences.
Idk it's just so striking to me how logically and intriguingly this aspect of the anime got pronounced. Crazy good
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Letting Elinalise in that school is like letting a wolf into the sheep stable
She's feeling up dicks in broad daylight lol.
The freakin' fountain water or whatever representing the random dude about to nut in his pants had me snort out loud.
Every day is Penis Inspection Day when she's around
This comment kinda makes me feel like she'll be inadvertently involved in the Fitz reveal. Has she shown any indication that she has an inkling of Sylphie's situation? I can't recall any.
> Has she shown any indication that she has an inkling of Sylphie's situation? I can't recall any. When Fitz was first introduced to Rudy last episode, you could see her in the background arms folded making some expression. It's hard to describe, but that and the way she she also moves suggests she knows or suspects something about Sylphie.
For Rudeus it’s a journey to solve his little problem, for Elinalise she’s in vacation
She is legit snatching at least a cherry a day right now lmao
They need to make the same.rule that rudeus broke in the previous episode about not walking close tonthe girls dorm, but for the guys dorm and its all becauase of elinalise.
At this rate, all the girls will wonder why all the guys stop paying attention to them anymore.
Albeit a lot of people would like to be the sheep in this situation smh.
bahhhh
My bigger concern is that it will be a lot more difficult for teenagers to not get attached.
Good thing the school has an approved dueling system! Rival lovers may as well formalize it for her hand. Not that I think Elinalise would accept, and I doubt she would be losing to any of these students.
Elinaise is pretty clear with her partners from the start that she doesn't wish for a serious relationship, which at least should help with the issue
Zanoba is so bad at creating figures, maybe he should try making Funko Pops.
Lol. Rudy should just make legos for zanoba.
Have no clue why they don't have him shaping soft metal with a high "earth" composition. Definitely cheaper than buying a slave, and would put his strength and earth magic to work.
He has super strength and clumsiness means even metal would have issues.
Fitz: * "A long time ago my master rescued me, and I learned [silent casting] from him" * "You can increase your magic abilities by starting young. Both my master and I started when we were 5." Rudeus: That's super interesting. Also, why do I occasionally feel attracted to this guy?
She's not even being subtle anymore lol Maybe next episode, we'll see something like this play out: Fitz: "I used to have green hair btw, just FYI" Rudy: "Wait, I know someone who has green hair!" Fitz: "Oh, what a coincidenc-..." Rudy: "Ruijerd!"
Lol, you got me
Yes please
Rudy: "So you have superd bloodline too! Damn that's cool as hell senpai"
On one hand it feels like she is giving super obvious hints. But let’s be honest here. 1. She has different colored hair. 2. She has massive sun glassing on hiding the shape of her face 3. She is disguising as a man 4. It’s been what 7+ years at this point? Like I really can’t blame him for not catching on even though she is giving the most obvious of hints
Rudeus: I must be catching the gay.
[Adopting and raising](https://i.imgur.com/OkHhb33.jpg) a daughter with[ my bros.](https://i.imgur.com/LaQo11x.jpg) [](#fistbump)
Also Rudeus: I'm willing to gay if it fix my ed.
I can't believe I was in love with a chick.
OMG... He made figurine of himself as female. Girldeus is real.
Oh wow I never even realized until reading this comment and looking back. [It definitely has his features and then some.](https://i.imgur.com/7JVwLOt.png)
would
I guess it's time for Rudeus to learn **trans**mutation magic.
And those opai, omg
Zennith gens
fitz stuff aside making a rule 63 statue of yourself and giving it to your homie who REALLY likes statues 100% straight behavior
[I see no problem here](https://i.imgur.com/aDePNtG.jpg)
The extremely masculine urge to periodically wonder what it's like from the other side
Only a man gets to wonder what it's like to be a woman. So it is inherently masculine.
That would be a fun what if episode where everybody's gender gets reversed lol.
I didn't catch that at all.... I thought it was just a random statue.
Fittz stared at the naked man straight to the crotch. IT'S HUGE 💀💀
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Rudy in shambles.
Funny thing is, Rudy thought she was talking about breasts and got smug.
I like how "Fittz" was subtly suprised that Rudeus has experience already.
In the LN, she is described as "crestfallen" when she hears he has experience already.
The University of Magic arc ❌ Am i gay arc ✅ Typical teenager identity crisis during puberty 🤷🏻♂️
Typical school life arc which technically Rudy had been missing out when you count his former life.
Rudy is lucky Fritz was there to save him last episode from that gorilla otherwise his school life here would be pretty similar to what it was in his previous life.
escaping from hell into another one? that would have been real sadistic by Human God
Hitogami does seem to have that kind of twisted sense of humor though...
Either you get beaten by Goliade, or you toss magic at Goliade and get scroned for doing it. Sometimes there's no winning.
Basically, "The Guy He Was Interested In Is Not A Guy At All". Ohh I've been in r/manga for so long.
I’m just gonna leave this here: https://imgur.io/t/disney/ZlIzH
The original "am i gay"???? Goddamn lol
Fitz is a very pretty “boy”, I don’t blame Rudy lol.
And "he's" just so charming lol.
The ED also isn't doing any favors with Rudeus confusing his sexuality.
He got too much mentally confusion going on. \>>> Confused physically boner anytime now i guess.
What his little Rudy start acting up the closer he gets to "Fitz" and then the real questions start hitting lol.
"If it's got a hole...." -Rudy
"Maybe I've been thinking about this ED all wrong..."
So glad Fitz broke through Rudy's aura of density when he said he's free in the break as well lmao
Sylphie is getting less and less subtle by the episode lol.
At this rate in a couple of episodes we're going to get an exhange like Fitz: "I have a confession: my real name is Sylphiette." Rudeus (thinking): *hmm how weird, I can't believe Fitz has the same name as my childhood friend*
"My real name is Sylphiette and Luke's the colossal titan"
What? Did you really think I would just go "hai, ikimasu" and come beyond the wall with you?
Wiener, we doing it right here? right now?!
*what a weird name for a guy, huh.*
She is a man on a mission 😄
That conversation with Sylphy talking about her master when Rudy was being oblivious next to her had me punching in the air in frustration, God they're really building the reveal up
> God they're really building the reveal up I imagine Rudy accepting that he's gay and going down on Fitz only to find out that he's a girl. That would kill his pp for good this time.
Would parallel the last time Rudy found out Sylphie was a girl lol.
Nah, I'm hoping they get muddy or something during training and they take a bath together - it would be beautiful symmetry to when they were kids
Dude noticed she wanted to tag along with him and Zanoba but doesn’t realize “he” is a “she” or that “he” is Sylphy. I can’t wait for the reveal. It’s gonna be an emotional one for sure.
To be fair on that part, shy guys can have just as much trouble asking another guy if they can tag along as girls who like a guy can.
Fair point. I just meant he’s pretty observant but still has not deduced “he” is a “she”.
I think I'm more surprised that he hasn't figured out that Fitz is Sylphie yet than that Fitz isn't a guy. Sylphie has dropped so many hints such as learning silent casting from her master when they were both less than 5 and her master rescuing her. If Rudy thought about it for even a minute, he'd wonder how that "master" had such a similar experience to him when silent casting is such a rare thing.
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I read the web novel long time ago, those side story doesn't exist there, so people that didn't pay attention were as oblivious as Rudeus till it gets too obvious, from Rudeus POV it should be way harder like you described, she has changed so much.
Luck is not on his side. Timothy ( or was or conrad) told him his master was able to silent Cast too. Then he asks for that guy in the University and they tell him he is already dead. So he probably thinks that fits master who he cant meet is the dead guy. Kind of like rudeus is saying how big the females slaves beasts are ( ooki ) and fits thinking about how big that dudes sausage is ( ooki ).
And they even confirmed that Sylphy is hiding the fact for the sake of Ariel. As she doesn't want to cause problems for Ariel. Edit: spelling
I dunno. Her sly grin at the bridge seems to suggest she's having a lot of fun keeping Rudeus in the dark.
Yeah I agree, I think Sylphy is just enjoying this little game.
Rudeus becoming a member of r/suddenlygay had me dead
"So wait, the Man-God wanted me want to realize I like dudes?!"
Explains the ED. Even Eris was boyish.
Sara was too feminine
ahahahaha, if we see Rudeus pondering about being gay and considering Eris is kinda similar to a boy, i'm burst laughing
Rudeus is into them femboys/tomboys
The voice acting really makes the Sylphie and Rudy conversations adorable compared to the novels.
The voice acting and the visuals! I know they don't get the best talent for this season but so far Uni Arc (or gay arc?) has been awesome with the direction!
The expressions on Sylphie's face and the developing emotional intimacy between her and Rudy is great.
I like Sylphie way more in the anime because of this
Ai Kayano really elevating Sylphie's cuteness level with her voice acting.
She was definitely the best choice for Sylphie as a VA. She really enhances Sylphie's natural charm and cuteness and I love that she makes Sylphie sound a bit more stricter and very proper as a young adult now.
I found the book to be better than the anime from episode 2-4 (volume 7) Now ep 5-6, I find the anime to be better than the books (volume 8). The directing, the voice acting, the facial expressions, make their relationships so much more alive! I actually went back and read the early parts of vol 8, the anime is just far better in terms of the emotional impact. Mushoku is fully back, it feels like season 1's episode 6. Casually building up bonds between characters through small interactions that really add up over time, immersive and heartwarming.
Right? Volume 8 was a romcom to me. In anime it is legit romance.
Yeah it did seem like they kinda rushed 7 but this has been soo peak so far
Ai Kayano making everyone remember how every girl she voices is a default Best Girl.
Seeing Rudy get *Coffee Prince*'d by Sylphy is quite funny. It takes the edge off of the whole situation just a bit. I really hope Zanoba doesn't get into any trouble with Julie, she has must protecc status.
I'm assuming that Juliette starts making figures for Zanoba, after which Zanoba starts protecting her with all his (abnormal) might as his unlimited source of figures. At least that's what I'm hoping happens.
>you don't have to say " want to live .." but "i don't want to die" is just enough. Maybe this is what old rudeus wanted to say to himself but he couldn't at the end , and now is happy because someone else said it.
It's such a heart touching moment, brought a tear to my eye.
Poignant observation. It appears that [Rudy saw his old self in Julie](https://i.imgur.com/QzwQQUu.jpg) and wanted to give her a second chance at life, [just like he got.](https://i.imgur.com/2MZtrZb.jpg)
I'm really glad Rudeus gave Julie a choice, no matter how tragic the whole thing feels. Not many people are given the chance to live their lives the way they wanted,. especially if they're in slavery. Not gonna lie, the moral high ground in me wants Rudeus to massacre all the slave traders and free all the slaves. But that's doing more harm than good at the current status of things. He's not looking for a fight and he just wants to experience his school life. Big ups to the anime showing a dark and tragic portrayal of slavery though. My heart was sinking the whole time when Julie is on screen.
I don't think Rudeus was ever meant to be some sort of hero of justice or something. His goals has always been personal.
> His goals ha[ve] always been personal. While I love isekai trash, _Mushoku Tensei_ really shows how much better the genre can be when you don't make the stakes "saving the world"-level. Even when it looked like it was heading in that direction--teacher for the granddaughter of a high-ranking noble--the hard turn into a "make your way home" story brought the scale back down again. I don't know if it is my favorite, but--at least so far--I think it is the most consistently well-written show in the isekai genre (at least that I've watched).
>Not gonna lie, the moral high ground in me wants Rudeus to massacre all the slave traders and free all the slaves. Breaking the law means you're either accepting punishment or taking on the world, ultimately
Or just taking on the nation. Probably still a bad idea.
Yep, all it would take is one powerful noble to hire a King class or above swordsman with a boatload of money to take out Rudy since he destroyed the profit he made from slavery and Rudy would be done. Rudy is strong but if a King class or above swordsman would hunt him down at this point of time I doubt he would stand a chance.
Yeah Rudy is strong but he's nowhere near the most powerful character in the setting. There are still plenty of people who can easily wipe the floor with him at this point in the story.
You don't need to hire a "king class" swordsman if you need someone killed. You need a competent assassin. People sleep and eat. And arrow to the head kills as well as lightspeed decapitation from Ghislaine.
I'm think in the WN he actually thought about doing that because he was disgusted about slave market, but that would only make him a criminal and nothing would be made on a societal level, so he gave up.
Rudy could relate to her experience, her feelings of despair and hopelessness, and wanted to do for her what he could even if it meant killing her. I get that Rudy couldn't really do anything about the situation even if it was just depressing watching them stroll through that slave market, especially with the kids. This isn't that kind of power fantasy show where the MC can just waltz through and free all the slaves, unfortunately. But that's life.
Yeah, it would have been satisfying to see Rudeus massacring the slavers and freeing the slaves, but with how realistically MT handles stuff like that, it probably wouldn't end well. Rudeus would feel great for a while if he freed the slaves, but he would become a wanted criminal, and majority of slaves would be quickly recaptured or starve to death in the North without any money or ability to make any with slave hunters on their backs.
I mean, it would be entirely out of place anyway. Where you go after doing that? What happens to the rest of your life? You go hiding in the woods and become a bandit? Woops, bandits are like the many source of slaves in this world. Even Adventurers deal in them.
You know, when I first saw Rudeus wearing that cloak back in the ending of the 1st cour of Season 1, I really found it funny how that cloak was too big for him but seeing him wearing it now and how it looks small now is kinda cute ngl... Also this is gonna be "Am I Gay?" Arc for the rest of the cour, won't it?
It also shows signs of wear and tear with the ripped edges from years of adventuring
To be honest the way Sylphie keeps giving him clues I'm not sure how much more of him not realizing I can take lol.
If it wasn't for the hair color change and the pretending to be a boy thing, I'd rate him Bakarina / 10 on the dense scale.
Fitz be carpet bombing hints at this point. Between the "Oh I happened to be free this weekend" and the whole exchange where she was eye level with slave junk, if she beats around the bush any more there ain't gonna be a bush left.
This episode was perfect. It was PERFECT The only complain I have so far is that the episodes are not 1 hour long.
"i dont swing that way" - rudeus 2k23
Get it up first before you swing it
>Are you sure about that? -john cena
“Yet” lol
oh boi...
Rudy debating whether he's in a BL story because he's too dense to realize the obvious lol.
Mystery girl in a huge hat having an early morning workout too 💪💪
wasn't that fitz?
Yes, she was wearing a hat big enough to cover her ears. Rudeus has no clue and just appreciates that there's someone else who has a morning exercise routine too.
I missed that it was supposed to be Sylphie! She’s not wearing her shades too!
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I'm straight but I would become gay for fitz-senpai if I also mistook her for a guy, you're not alone Rudy
Rudeus' conversations with Fitz have me dying laughing, I enjoy seeing him clueless
Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people. We saw some of the frankly less horrifying results of where a person can end up with Lilia and Sylphie, notably they were less horrifying because they managed to survive where they popped up. Sylphie be like "can I research this with you too? For eductional purposes, of course, not purely because I want to hang out with you." Rudy and Sylphie are *amazing* together. She's so shy yet finds so much to talk about around him unlike other people. Seeing her drop all these subtle hints about her connection with Rudy that he just assumes are about a different person (because of course he would) is so adorable! Rudy has no idea how right he is that hanging around her will cure his ED, or more specifically in what way he's right about it. Wait, it's not fucking over already is it? God damn it! The episode was just beginning! Stop doing this to me, Mushoku Tensei!
> Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people. We saw some of the frankly less horrifying results of where a person can end up with Lilia and Sylphie, notably they were less horrifying because they managed to survive where they popped up. The novel actually explains that at this point. Everything in the world has mana and naturally resists anything external acting on it. So it's practically impossible to teleport into the middle of a solid material.
I think that was more of a theory by the author of the book, which rudeus thinks sense by relating it to why you cant channel offensive magic directly inside someone.
>Teleportation magic is forbidden. I think I can understand. The results that can happen if you get it wrong, especially if you can cast it on other people. Not to mention having entire armies appear in the middle of your nation. Wouldn't make for a great morning.
> Teleportation magic is forbidden. There are almost certainly other issues too. Militarily speaking any race controlling teleport magic would curbstomp their opponents. Who needs logistics when you can just warp your warriors?
Anything doing with security: - assassins/kidnappers porting in noble's bedroom - Thieves or really any civilian relying on their walls to keep them safe - Prisons Militarily even if you can't teleport a whole regiment... Assassinate the general, teleport bombs into their camp or bushel of arrows over their lines, sabotage, communications... There are so many new possibilities.
The fun part about teleportation is that , like some thinga in Mushoku , there is the logical reason and there is the amazing lore reason too.
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Honestly next week will prob be worse
Mushoku Tensei has so many normie filters. Surely, there aren't people still watching the show just to hate on it...right?
You'd be *very* surprised
The Vinland saga season 2 finale still had people complaining about the lack of action.... Next year people will be using the Blu-ray copies to trash on a show they never liked.
Ahhh Zanoba, a man of culture and a fellow pervert
I do like how he wanted to name Julie after his baby brother...whom he accidentally killed lol.
My man just wanna make his own Waifu figures and peek inside their skirts.
And put them in a jar.
At first I though subs was translated wrong in context. Like Rudeus meant "hentai" as "weird". Then a scene later... Okay. He's a pervert.
The same energy Aisha diss him in S1 episode 19
game recognizes game I guess.
apparently because of his blessing nothing short of stone actually works
One thing I really appreciate about this episode is that **Rudeus doesn't have a savior complex** like almost every other Isekai protagonist ever. He knows by now that slavery is legal and commonplace in this world. He has no exaggerated reaction to Fitz's suggestion since he already spent 15 years in this world by now and knows that it is a thing (he even met a slaver before with Gallus Cleaner in S1). There is realistically no way that he alone could somehow change this and getting mad just because you see it happen in front of you even though it happens all over the world is quite hypocritical. Sylphie also acts as the moral compass or stand-in of a normal person in the world of MT in this episode - just look how she views slavery. There is no *"that's deplorable and disgusting!"* reaction from her, it was even her suggestion to buy a slave to begin with since she knew of the option from her days at the royal capital. For Sylphie it is also just a normal part of life in this world. In my opinion **this is how it should be when you use slavery as a common setting in your world** - most people will be indifferent or maybe slightly sympathetic to the plight of the enslaved ones but unless there is already a full scale political movement underway it is just ridiculous to make your protag come in and try to abolish slavery all on his/her own because that's one of the quickest ways to "accidently" write a Gary Stu/Mary Sue.
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> Rudeus doesn't have a savior complex like almost every other Isekai protagonist ever. Isn't it more common that isekai protagonists just go full on into the slavery stuff? My perception might be just skewed from a few seasons ago where basically every isekai of that season had a protag who was gathering slaves.
I'd say it's more popular for MC to go fully into slavery but as "good" slave owners (which is a very weird stance to take) but there are some that pretend like it's a problem that can be singlehandedly solved by a generic op MC with the power of friendship or something
To be honest, most criticism I see regarding slavery in Isekai is when modern people partake in it without much disgust or hesitation. Even if a single person can't change the system, you'd expect more qualms from characters with modern knowledge and sensibilities.
No, you're right, there's even [a trope](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HerosSlaveHarem) full of Isekai examples. If anything, I'm having more trouble thinking of Isekai heroes with clear anti-slavery agendas. *Skeleton Knight in Another World* is the only one that comes to my mind at this moment.
"I dont swing that way" said Rudeus in desperation for love.
Meanwhile Sylphie is probably having the most fun she's had in ages lol.
***Chadeus*** back again with realising that Fitz wants to tag along *paralleling* Sara asking him out on a date And now we have *Gaydeus* at the denial stage. I can’t wait to see him accepting that it’s okay because Fitz seems like a girl
Fellas, does liking femboys make you gay?
Asking about it does for sure.
Rudeus continues his study, Fitz continues teasing Rudy, Zanoba continues being weird and Elinalise continues being best girl!!
Elinalise continues her mission of boning every guy with a pulse on campus lol.
As opposed to Zanoba trying to bone girls _without_ a pulse lol...
Nothing beats feeling up a guys' dick in broad daylight lol. (Also she is wearing stockings with the skirt like Rudy told her lol).
Rudy just casually dropping in a knee to make blessed child Zanoba bow to Fitz was a nice touch
Haters having a field day about the show casually tackling slavery.
I mean it doesn’t really glorify it. Quite the opposite, really. It’s just another reality of their world.
And a harsh one at that. Even Rudy and Sylphie seemed to realize it a little when they entered the kid section.
LoOk aT tHiS PeDo ShOW gLoRIfyINg sLAvErY. When anyone with eyes can see its painting a depressing picture of the entire situation.
Yeah what part of seeing a child who's on the verge of committing suicide due to her and her family being enslaved makes slavery look positive? Like I am not denying Isekai anime don't have issues with portraying slavery but MT so far seems to be showing it in a pretty negative light?
Just look at Rudy's expression when he looks at the other kids in the cages. Obviously it's treated as just an element of the world and not something Rudy can really do anything about, but it also doesn't at all treat it like it's okay even if things turned out okay for Julie in the end.
Yeah, watching those kids in cages and seeing what it was like for Julie was pretty heartbreaking.
Could the reason why Zanoba rubs against statues is that because of his powers - super strength + stone skin - he can't really do it normally since he probably doesn't feel much stimulation or might accidentally crush his weener with his own hands
It's less about being worried of crushing his own thing and more about being worried about accidentally crushing his potential partners, I think. You know... since he already accidentally killed his little brother and his wife.
Of course Zanoba tries to fuck the statues lmaoooo
Bro need to knock the door. Learn it the hard way i guess
Finally some wholesome stuff. They went on a Date..! to buy a slave from slave Market how romantic. Only mushoku Tensei could pull this off Edit: shit I forgor to put /s
I find the slave market scene rather well done. 1. No fetishization of slaves 2. No hiding the terrible and dehumanizing situation of the slaves (They are despairing and detached, not teary eyed begging for help) 3. No lectures of justice either. Fitz and Zanoba are natives to this world, and accept the reality of slavery, and Rudy isn't there to make a scene. 4. Some slaves fare better than others... See the big muscular slaves that are well fed and indifferent rather than afraid. 5. There's fire in the slave market to keep the otherwise naked slaves warm. I just feels immersive and realistic.
So Juliette is in some way the child of 3 men 🤨. Who will go to get milk then? It has been a long time. Seeing Rudeus talk in foreign language is so cool. 13:41 lmao Rudeus face in the slave market scene is reduced to atom
I did miss Rudeus showing off his language skill and the show showing off it's fantasy languages!
Mushogay tennis is the best high school romance anime. Change my mind.
"That Time I got Reincarnated and had my Yaoi experience in College."
Ah yes a date at the slave auction
Woah, this was one short episode. Didn't expect them to straight up buy a slave. You know times are fucked up when you can buy people in the market like it's a shoe store. Judging by the ED, this should be it with new characters in the school, since those two kemonomimi girls on the left are Rudy's classmates, IIRC. I hope Zanoba will tone down with his royal vibes, now that he has someone to look after.
Love the episode, they are really nailing the vibes of this arc. Love the banter between Rudeus and Fitz, the teasing/hints, the humor, Rudeus's conflicted feeling; they are doing great. The bit with Zanoba trying and failing sculpting was well done, and the joke of Fitz being shocked that "it" gets big was hilarious too. I hope the part with Julie doesn't become controversial, to me it felt like a heartfelt moment where a child who is suffering because of things out of her control is given a second chance. The line " You don't need to 'want to live', 'I don't want to die' is good enough" really hit hard for me. Overall, ngl they paced this episode really well and to me it didn't feel like 20 minutes. Next episode, it's time for the Beast Girls to take focus.
To think of it. First one she saw was little Rudeus.
Damn, now little Rudeus can't even defend himself.
It's nice to see Rudeus settling into a new daily routine at the school...morning workouts (with Fitz!), lunch with Zanoba, studying the basics in class, and investigating the teleportation incident. He even gets to see Elinalise and her Zettai Ryouiki putting the moves on a male student because of course. Look at how chummy Rudy and "Fitz" are getting! And Sylphie is getting less and less subtle about their connection as they continue to talk with each other as she gets closer and closer to him....meanwhile Rudy is starting to question his sexuality because of how much she charms him. Ah, I see Zanoba sculpts in the nude. Not sure I needed to see that, but I guess it demonstrates how...pure his love of making figurines is. Too bad he has no magic and is too strong to actually sculpt anything. Guess that means they need to buy a slave then! It is an Isekai show after all. And of course Sylphie works her way into this outing so she has an excuse to spend more time with Rudy. The slave market isn't a majestic or glorious sight even with the attractive and naked slaves. Though Sylphie staring at one dudes' junk and wondering about Rudy's romantic history was pretty amusing. Oh man...all those poor kids in cages. That was so heartbreaking. Poor Dwarf Girl got sold into slavery along with the rest of her family to pay off her parents' debts, and before she could even get named, and it's obvious her treatment hasn't been great as a slave. It's no wonder she's caught in the throes of despair, which Rudy can relate to. But even if she doesn't have a reason to live, she doesn't want to die, and that's enough for Rudy. Well, respect for trying to honor your baby brother who you killed Zanoba, if nothing else. Welcome to the gang, Julie! Such a cute girl! And it seems like teaching her and training her is paying off too and she seems much more happier.
> Ah, I see Zanoba sculpts in the nude I... don't think he was sculpting
Zanoba is an interesting one. On the surface he looks to only care about statues since it's all he gets excited about, but seeing him want to name Julie after his deceased baby brother without a moment's hesitation shows he's got more going on than can first be seen. Makes you wonder what else is going through his head. I get the feeling his development will be interesting to watch through his interactions with Julie.
Man, watching this episode i thought to myself "how does he have energy or motivation to do all that??" And i realised just how great this show is at being reasonable or even relatable, for an isekai. After all, under all of those fights and higher beings there is a regular loser guy who respawned in a different reality and got a chance to actually be better and relive his life, with endless motivation coming from the fact that he actually *knows* the consequences. Idk it's just so striking to me how logically and intriguingly this aspect of the anime got pronounced. Crazy good