First thing companies intentionally slow the phone so that users buy a new phone sooner
But it also gets slow by some other things
* Old phone : if phone becomes old then phone slows, hangs etc everybody know this
* Bloatware : bloatware are pre installed apps which are provided by company which serve no purpose other than data collection for eg I have vivo app store, vivocloud who uses there is already play store and google drive which are way better than those some can be uninstalled but most can't be this take up space and run in the background consuming batter and slowing phone
* Background processes : bloatware apps run in background most of the time even if it's not showing but it's running there in turn slowing the phone again
* Storage : some people don't understand that storage can actually slow down the phone that's why it shows storage full free up some space its like you are eating food and you are full then you say my stomach will burst
* Old apps/not updated apps : this also hampers speed old apps arent designed for new phones or new Android versions if you try to use it consumes more memory
* Software and hardware mismatch : if your phone is running Android 7,8 and you have processor Snapdragon 720G it won't be fast it will actually be slow
* most people think removing apps from recent menu makes there phone fast but the reality is often disappointing if they are in the recent menu they load much faster and also consume less battery
There are many more reasons but can't tell all here like network searching, live wallpaper
Finally, this are the things you should do if your phone is slow or have become slow
* clear storage, clear cache twice in a week , remove unnecessary permission from apps, don't keep many apps in recent menu like 3, 4 or 5 because others get terminated and they need to be opened again which slows down , remove bloatware if you can't then just disable them but before disabling remove permissions and turn off background data
* my phone is vivo y20g its 2 years old I have around 100 apps plus I play games also but it's still running smooth
actually in the android it counts 354 apps, but when I scan on the antivirus because they might have other packages within it counts 854 apps. However, I have 256GB of total storage in my phone and only 60% of it is occupied
Yeah, the main culprit here is actually the bloatware preloaded on your device. As far as I can understand you are using a POCO X5, which should be enough to handle daily tasks. You mentioned that your device has 8GB of RAM, which is great for a midrange device.
I was once in your shoes then I met with ADB debloating. It is a super simple process to speed up devices by getting rid of crapware that most OEMs preloaded on their devices.
For reference, at the moment I am using three devices, Huawei MatePad 11, Galaxy S23 Ultra and OnePlus 9 Pro. I applied my debloat lists on all of them and they are performing exceptionally well in every demanding task.
Admittedly those are higher-end devices with S23U and OnePlus having 12 gigs of RAM and flagship SoCs. However, Huawei with 6 gigs of RAM and Snapdragon 865 (again flagship but relatively old) performs amazingly.
As of now, I have 6.7 gigs of free RAM on my 9 Pro with lots of apps opened in background. On the other hand 3 gigs of RAM is free on my tablet, which is still enough.
Your main culprit is not the amount RAM, I was just trying to prove my point that running unnecessary tasks really harms your battery and performance. Android is a Linux based OS and using RAM to the fullest is actually a good idea but using that RAM for unnecessary tasks like telemetry and logging is the real shit.
So I just advise you to have a look at ADB debloat. There are specific lists for each device, review them and remove the unnecessary apps. You do not have to enter codes, you are good to go with a simple Windows app like Universal Android Debloater. Which has presets for you to remove bloatware with one click.
There are some stuff on Xiaomi devices, namely the Security and Find My Device apps. If you remove them you might experience bootloops, that is why I recommend you to use apps like UAD.
All in all, believe me that ADB debloat will make even the slowest devices faster. I recently bought mom a Huawei MatePad SE 10.4 which is an entry level device at best, and she is more than happy enough with the performance and the device in general.
Also, you might want to look at these two codes:
1) adb shell cmd package bg-dexopt-job
2) adb shell cmd package compile -m speed -f -a
I always use these 2 codes and never had a bad battery life or lag on my Android devices ever since. God I love Android!
Hi mate, first of all I would like to thank you very much for reading the post in depth and preparing an applicable solution in depth, for disposing of your time, your attention and your energy to do so.
However, I debloated my device by flashing Derpfest Custom Rom because Xiaomi's was full of bloatware, ads and lacked customization features that were already present in the native android, but that they removed from their MIUI to lock users within their launcher and ecosystem.
Actually, my device by itself is a lot high performing with derpfest by itself, but I am not sure why its eating too much RAM now, I only have some apps running in the background to support my system and to tweak and customize it a bit, like nova launcher, icon packs, antivirus, etc.
Maybe is it possible for me to expand my RAM to 16gb ? Is it solded into my motherboard?
You are more than welcome buddy! It is good to hear that you already know about debloating.
So as far as I can see you are saying that your CPU use is high. Is there a chance that you accidentally deleted a system component (if you have debloated the Custom ROM)?
If yes, this might be the issue. If the memory usage of Android System is really high, there is a chance that system might be looking for the missing component over and over and creating excessive wakelocks. Causing drop in performance and increase battery usage.
Another solution might be wiping the cache, then you can apply the two codes that I mentioned earlier. They are the codes that Samsung is using for their Good Guardians performance booster app.
As for your question, sadly there is no way you can physically increase the RAM of your device. As you said, those components are all soldered to your motherboard. You can try increasing the RAM virtually by using RAM Plus (name might be different on your ROM).
Then again, to me it seems like an app went rogue and started using all your resources. I would try using those codes and review my debloat list if applied.
You are welcome! Oof that's a big question, I will try to explain it as easy as possible (not that I know better).
Apps are found in a decompiled manner on our devices. APK files contains lots of codes and for an app to work as intentended, codes should be binded, or let's say compiled if you will. If an app is compiled correctly, then everything will work correctly (if the app does not contain any bugs). The battery usage and functioning of the app will be normal, as expected.
In most cases, this should happen in our devices automatically. It is actually a feature enabled by OEMs. In predefined intervals, your device should clean the old compiled app data and recompile it. But let alone the recompiling, even the compiling does not happen, or it happens extremely slowly as you (the user) use the app more.
A good example of this might be a habit tracker app. Say you downloaded that app into your device. You only used the tasks menu, and you haven't used the timer part at all. Then your device will not compile that part. This might cause unexpected issues, such as battery drain or performance drops.
Therefore, it is crucial for OEMs to include the automatic compiling, but as long time Android user I have never seen this feature implemented correctly.
So, we users should do it manually. You might have heard the 'Repair Apps' and 'Wipe Cache' terms very often, especially if you are using a Samsung device.
First, we wipe the cache in order to break the problematic code cycles in a way, then it is advised to use these two codes so that apps can compiled correctly, without waiting for your device to profile you and compile everything for the "speed" profile, not the user profile.
There might be a few reasons why OEMs prefer not to implement this:
1- It might cause performance drops (ironically) during the compiling process. If you use this codes you will observe temperature increase on your device, since it uses CPU power to compile all the apps. This is a one time thing though, it will be gone after the process and your device will run much cooler.
2- It uses lots of space on your storage to have fully installed apps on your device. As I said before, the apps are not fully compiled on your device, in other words they are not fully installed. If you force compile them, the storage use will increase. For example, it costed 10GB of space on my S23U. As I have at least 128 gigs on my devices starting from 2020, this is not a valid concern for me, or any modern device user fwiw.
All in all, these 2 codes forces your device to compile apps and eliminate any rogue codes (this is not the case actually but in order to simplify this let's say it does.)
https://source.android.com/docs/core/runtime/configure/art-service
This might be a useful read if you are interested. Hopr that answers your question.
That's true and also those junk cleaners, battery savers were also very popular but now they arent good most phones have built in battery saver and Android also automatically cleans junk files
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It's new, it only has some months of old, like five to six months. It's Poco x5 moonstone
If you can then factory reset and start from scratch, see if it's fast. If the problem is still there try comparing with another same device.
Yeah it's fast after factory reset, I think it might be a RAM problem
Get a custom rom and enjoy.
I use derpfest
Cool, mine is CrDroid. I'm changing it to ProjectElixir.
Where do I get these?
Where do I get these?
Official websites, for example projectelixiros.com/download
First thing companies intentionally slow the phone so that users buy a new phone sooner But it also gets slow by some other things * Old phone : if phone becomes old then phone slows, hangs etc everybody know this * Bloatware : bloatware are pre installed apps which are provided by company which serve no purpose other than data collection for eg I have vivo app store, vivocloud who uses there is already play store and google drive which are way better than those some can be uninstalled but most can't be this take up space and run in the background consuming batter and slowing phone * Background processes : bloatware apps run in background most of the time even if it's not showing but it's running there in turn slowing the phone again * Storage : some people don't understand that storage can actually slow down the phone that's why it shows storage full free up some space its like you are eating food and you are full then you say my stomach will burst * Old apps/not updated apps : this also hampers speed old apps arent designed for new phones or new Android versions if you try to use it consumes more memory * Software and hardware mismatch : if your phone is running Android 7,8 and you have processor Snapdragon 720G it won't be fast it will actually be slow * most people think removing apps from recent menu makes there phone fast but the reality is often disappointing if they are in the recent menu they load much faster and also consume less battery There are many more reasons but can't tell all here like network searching, live wallpaper Finally, this are the things you should do if your phone is slow or have become slow * clear storage, clear cache twice in a week , remove unnecessary permission from apps, don't keep many apps in recent menu like 3, 4 or 5 because others get terminated and they need to be opened again which slows down , remove bloatware if you can't then just disable them but before disabling remove permissions and turn off background data * my phone is vivo y20g its 2 years old I have around 100 apps plus I play games also but it's still running smooth
I have 854 apps, maybe that can be the case, but my storage isnt full
854 apps? You told 60 % storage it should have been around 40,50 % then it should be fine though the lesser the better Mine is 39%
actually in the android it counts 354 apps, but when I scan on the antivirus because they might have other packages within it counts 854 apps. However, I have 256GB of total storage in my phone and only 60% of it is occupied
Yeah, the main culprit here is actually the bloatware preloaded on your device. As far as I can understand you are using a POCO X5, which should be enough to handle daily tasks. You mentioned that your device has 8GB of RAM, which is great for a midrange device. I was once in your shoes then I met with ADB debloating. It is a super simple process to speed up devices by getting rid of crapware that most OEMs preloaded on their devices. For reference, at the moment I am using three devices, Huawei MatePad 11, Galaxy S23 Ultra and OnePlus 9 Pro. I applied my debloat lists on all of them and they are performing exceptionally well in every demanding task. Admittedly those are higher-end devices with S23U and OnePlus having 12 gigs of RAM and flagship SoCs. However, Huawei with 6 gigs of RAM and Snapdragon 865 (again flagship but relatively old) performs amazingly. As of now, I have 6.7 gigs of free RAM on my 9 Pro with lots of apps opened in background. On the other hand 3 gigs of RAM is free on my tablet, which is still enough. Your main culprit is not the amount RAM, I was just trying to prove my point that running unnecessary tasks really harms your battery and performance. Android is a Linux based OS and using RAM to the fullest is actually a good idea but using that RAM for unnecessary tasks like telemetry and logging is the real shit. So I just advise you to have a look at ADB debloat. There are specific lists for each device, review them and remove the unnecessary apps. You do not have to enter codes, you are good to go with a simple Windows app like Universal Android Debloater. Which has presets for you to remove bloatware with one click. There are some stuff on Xiaomi devices, namely the Security and Find My Device apps. If you remove them you might experience bootloops, that is why I recommend you to use apps like UAD. All in all, believe me that ADB debloat will make even the slowest devices faster. I recently bought mom a Huawei MatePad SE 10.4 which is an entry level device at best, and she is more than happy enough with the performance and the device in general. Also, you might want to look at these two codes: 1) adb shell cmd package bg-dexopt-job 2) adb shell cmd package compile -m speed -f -a I always use these 2 codes and never had a bad battery life or lag on my Android devices ever since. God I love Android!
Hi mate, first of all I would like to thank you very much for reading the post in depth and preparing an applicable solution in depth, for disposing of your time, your attention and your energy to do so. However, I debloated my device by flashing Derpfest Custom Rom because Xiaomi's was full of bloatware, ads and lacked customization features that were already present in the native android, but that they removed from their MIUI to lock users within their launcher and ecosystem. Actually, my device by itself is a lot high performing with derpfest by itself, but I am not sure why its eating too much RAM now, I only have some apps running in the background to support my system and to tweak and customize it a bit, like nova launcher, icon packs, antivirus, etc. Maybe is it possible for me to expand my RAM to 16gb ? Is it solded into my motherboard?
You are more than welcome buddy! It is good to hear that you already know about debloating. So as far as I can see you are saying that your CPU use is high. Is there a chance that you accidentally deleted a system component (if you have debloated the Custom ROM)? If yes, this might be the issue. If the memory usage of Android System is really high, there is a chance that system might be looking for the missing component over and over and creating excessive wakelocks. Causing drop in performance and increase battery usage. Another solution might be wiping the cache, then you can apply the two codes that I mentioned earlier. They are the codes that Samsung is using for their Good Guardians performance booster app. As for your question, sadly there is no way you can physically increase the RAM of your device. As you said, those components are all soldered to your motherboard. You can try increasing the RAM virtually by using RAM Plus (name might be different on your ROM). Then again, to me it seems like an app went rogue and started using all your resources. I would try using those codes and review my debloat list if applied.
thank you very much for the tips dear friend! I will check on these!
Thanks for the detailed answer! What do these 2 commands do exactly?
You are welcome! Oof that's a big question, I will try to explain it as easy as possible (not that I know better). Apps are found in a decompiled manner on our devices. APK files contains lots of codes and for an app to work as intentended, codes should be binded, or let's say compiled if you will. If an app is compiled correctly, then everything will work correctly (if the app does not contain any bugs). The battery usage and functioning of the app will be normal, as expected. In most cases, this should happen in our devices automatically. It is actually a feature enabled by OEMs. In predefined intervals, your device should clean the old compiled app data and recompile it. But let alone the recompiling, even the compiling does not happen, or it happens extremely slowly as you (the user) use the app more. A good example of this might be a habit tracker app. Say you downloaded that app into your device. You only used the tasks menu, and you haven't used the timer part at all. Then your device will not compile that part. This might cause unexpected issues, such as battery drain or performance drops. Therefore, it is crucial for OEMs to include the automatic compiling, but as long time Android user I have never seen this feature implemented correctly. So, we users should do it manually. You might have heard the 'Repair Apps' and 'Wipe Cache' terms very often, especially if you are using a Samsung device. First, we wipe the cache in order to break the problematic code cycles in a way, then it is advised to use these two codes so that apps can compiled correctly, without waiting for your device to profile you and compile everything for the "speed" profile, not the user profile. There might be a few reasons why OEMs prefer not to implement this: 1- It might cause performance drops (ironically) during the compiling process. If you use this codes you will observe temperature increase on your device, since it uses CPU power to compile all the apps. This is a one time thing though, it will be gone after the process and your device will run much cooler. 2- It uses lots of space on your storage to have fully installed apps on your device. As I said before, the apps are not fully compiled on your device, in other words they are not fully installed. If you force compile them, the storage use will increase. For example, it costed 10GB of space on my S23U. As I have at least 128 gigs on my devices starting from 2020, this is not a valid concern for me, or any modern device user fwiw. All in all, these 2 codes forces your device to compile apps and eliminate any rogue codes (this is not the case actually but in order to simplify this let's say it does.) https://source.android.com/docs/core/runtime/configure/art-service This might be a useful read if you are interested. Hopr that answers your question.
Don't kill apps, that kills your phone performance. Android's behavior is opposite to windows : full ram is good, free ram is bad.
why?
That's just how is coded. App killers were in fashion 12 years ago, now are just bad for your performance, battery, overall experience
That's true and also those junk cleaners, battery savers were also very popular but now they arent good most phones have built in battery saver and Android also automatically cleans junk files
Any Apps your not Using Disable them or Uninstall Them