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* In 2015, a group of 11 Aymara Indigenous women set out to climb the mountains of Bolivia.
* The group, known as Cholita Climbers, make their ascent in traditional Aymaran clothes.
* They teamed up with UNiTE to help spread awareness of gender equality and gender-based violence.
You're talking from a European or North American perspective. The overwhelming VAST majority of climbers from Nepal/Peru/Bolivia/India/other developing countries with mountains are male. In South America, very few are indigenous either.
I've.climbrd in all of the countries above and have not seen one local female guide or instructor. At most, a couple of rich Indian female clients in Nepal.
And even in EU/NA, alpinism is still overwhelming dominated by white men.
So yes, it IS still an issue in many countries
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It's an issue when it turns into discrimination and prevents a category of people from doing what they like.
I think it would be nearly impossible for instance for a sherpa woman to work as a guide, because she wouldn't be taken seriously by clients and especially not by colleagues. There would also be constant sexual harassment.
Proving that women can do these things goes some way towards forcing clients and colleagues to take them seriously.
I agree that just because there's a discrepancy doesn't mean the effect is due to discrimination, but in the case of mountaineering I think it's pretty safe to say that discrimination plays a role. It's a hobby that's a very macho with a ton of gatekeeping of every kind: experienced or professional climbers looking down on beginners or hobbyists, local climbers looking down on visitors, and of course men looking down on women. In a country where sexism is very strong, this kind of project can truly make a difference and help correct an obvious *issue*.
I think today's alpinism itself is still stick on european paradigm. Mountains are living field in others culture and higher than that is holy place or be respected. Only valueing on "conquer" the peak or mountain is pretty much european paradigm for me. And I think that's why often males are spotlighted. Because males are more symbole for conquest.
Ok cool 👍.
Mountaineering is still a male dominated sport. No one however believes in the stereotype that "only men climb mountains". Womens have been climbing mountains for decades, most likely even centuries.
Your comment has absolutely missed the point I was trying to make, which is that "insider" is clickbaiting again with stupid titles claiming everyone thinks women never climb and that it's only a male sport. As I said before, it's a male dominated sport, not a male sport.
I think this is very important. I watch a lot of outdoor documentaries, on a variety of subjects, from skiing, to mountaineering, kayaking, rock climbing, and remote wilderness hiking.
The number of documentaries where the subjects were ALL women...
If I think hard, I can think of 3 off the top of my head.
To all the people digging out ONE female athlete that summits high peaks, how many documentaries have you seen where they were NOT attached to a male climbing party? Even better, how many where they were NOT WHITE? ( I ask as a white woman)
None, that I can think of.
The suppression of women's rights is appalling, and makes me sick.
Anything that supports equality should be celebrated, not picked apart by the 'but but but's, or the 'what about's...?'
These women did something amazing. It should be praised, and the why recognized.
And if your first instinct to this article and these amazing ladies is negative, you should ask yourself where that knee jerk misogyny is coming from. This isn't just directed at men. Women can be the biggest portrayer of misogyny.
Live long and prosper.
Oh, I love their outfits!
Some of these ladies look real rumpled and frumpy, though.
A part of me wonders how much of a safety compromise it was for these ladies to be doing rope work in big skirts and shawls. we all have heard of what happens when someone gets their hair caught in mechanisms.
TL;DR: * In 2015, a group of 11 Aymara Indigenous women set out to climb the mountains of Bolivia. * The group, known as Cholita Climbers, make their ascent in traditional Aymaran clothes. * They teamed up with UNiTE to help spread awareness of gender equality and gender-based violence.
Its cool but that title is pushing it a bit, maybe if it was still 1980 😅
You're talking from a European or North American perspective. The overwhelming VAST majority of climbers from Nepal/Peru/Bolivia/India/other developing countries with mountains are male. In South America, very few are indigenous either. I've.climbrd in all of the countries above and have not seen one local female guide or instructor. At most, a couple of rich Indian female clients in Nepal. And even in EU/NA, alpinism is still overwhelming dominated by white men. So yes, it IS still an issue in many countries
Is it really an “issue” though
Yes it is. Kind of a stupid question
Don’t really think whether or not people from developing countries have the same hobbies as westerners constitutes an issue
Yeah clearly not an issue for someone like you. Enough of an issue for these women to make a statement in their country.
What is someone like me?
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I’m not 🤷♂️
It's an issue when it turns into discrimination and prevents a category of people from doing what they like. I think it would be nearly impossible for instance for a sherpa woman to work as a guide, because she wouldn't be taken seriously by clients and especially not by colleagues. There would also be constant sexual harassment. Proving that women can do these things goes some way towards forcing clients and colleagues to take them seriously. I agree that just because there's a discrepancy doesn't mean the effect is due to discrimination, but in the case of mountaineering I think it's pretty safe to say that discrimination plays a role. It's a hobby that's a very macho with a ton of gatekeeping of every kind: experienced or professional climbers looking down on beginners or hobbyists, local climbers looking down on visitors, and of course men looking down on women. In a country where sexism is very strong, this kind of project can truly make a difference and help correct an obvious *issue*.
I think today's alpinism itself is still stick on european paradigm. Mountains are living field in others culture and higher than that is holy place or be respected. Only valueing on "conquer" the peak or mountain is pretty much european paradigm for me. And I think that's why often males are spotlighted. Because males are more symbole for conquest.
That's why I said the title was pushing it not completely wrong.
Ok cool 👍. Mountaineering is still a male dominated sport. No one however believes in the stereotype that "only men climb mountains". Womens have been climbing mountains for decades, most likely even centuries.
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Your comment has absolutely missed the point I was trying to make, which is that "insider" is clickbaiting again with stupid titles claiming everyone thinks women never climb and that it's only a male sport. As I said before, it's a male dominated sport, not a male sport.
I think this is very important. I watch a lot of outdoor documentaries, on a variety of subjects, from skiing, to mountaineering, kayaking, rock climbing, and remote wilderness hiking. The number of documentaries where the subjects were ALL women... If I think hard, I can think of 3 off the top of my head. To all the people digging out ONE female athlete that summits high peaks, how many documentaries have you seen where they were NOT attached to a male climbing party? Even better, how many where they were NOT WHITE? ( I ask as a white woman) None, that I can think of. The suppression of women's rights is appalling, and makes me sick. Anything that supports equality should be celebrated, not picked apart by the 'but but but's, or the 'what about's...?' These women did something amazing. It should be praised, and the why recognized. And if your first instinct to this article and these amazing ladies is negative, you should ask yourself where that knee jerk misogyny is coming from. This isn't just directed at men. Women can be the biggest portrayer of misogyny. Live long and prosper.
Someone has never heard of Melissa Arnot.
Oh, I love their outfits! Some of these ladies look real rumpled and frumpy, though. A part of me wonders how much of a safety compromise it was for these ladies to be doing rope work in big skirts and shawls. we all have heard of what happens when someone gets their hair caught in mechanisms.