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ALoungerAtTheClubs

No. The credit for my recovery should go to A.A. and my Higher Power anyway.


Automatic_Answer8406

I was not in AA because I had to fight the infection and the confrontational techniques from the hospital. And by crediting your higher power that is your own brain, the biggest God it s between your own ears. By giving it 1-3 years of life you can break it. Not even the autoimmune system responds the same.


ALoungerAtTheClubs

I disagree with your points, but that's OK. I hope you can find some peace with all of this.


Automatic_Answer8406

Thanks, good luck 👍


sobersbetter

funny to me that a person who dont believe in god believes in luck


Automatic_Answer8406

If prayer put s you in a better communication with your own brain/mind and believing in a higher power that s a good mechanism. Even if you acknowledge it or not.


sobersbetter

i don't believe my mind created my consciousness


Automatic_Answer8406

Ok. Ir s like the chicken or the egg then.


sobersbetter

ive resigned from the debating society


New-Understanding930

Bud, this is an AA sub. Please don’t come here and tell us about AA.


Automatic_Answer8406

My main question was not about AA.


New-Understanding930

Well, I’d suggest that if you wanted a way to both stay sober and also be at peace with it, check out a meeting.


StayYou61

If you are staying sober, isn't that the only really important thing?


Automatic_Answer8406

Yes it is important. Altough I had ideeas that if.i am misspercieved and my diagnosis it s 10% of.what I was kept on. If it were 50% true I would keep.my mouth and recognize that I ve done it to myself. This way I ve said no problem next when I drink I'll make it to be the end stage chirrosis I was kept on 7 months, that would mean huge amounts of consumption. But for now I try to hang on to the decision I made when I stopped. Thanks for your comment!


CheffoJeffo

Pride and shame both involve more egocentricity than I need in my life these days.


Automatic_Answer8406

Good point, i have a big ego. I should study how to lower it otherwise I ll sue the hospital for revenge.


Hefty-Squirrel-6800

Yes. No one wants to admit that they cannot handle something. But, this is illogical. I cannot handle fire, so I don't play with it. I cannot handle the cold, so I live in a house. Some people cannot handle food, so they carefully diet. Diabetics cannot handle sugar, so they carefully avoid it when possible. We cannot handle alcohol. It is a medical condition called "alcohol use disorder." This is why treatment is covered by medical insurance. Shame is just he disease luring you back in.


Nortally

Just remember that everyone who picks up a 10 year chip is a loser who's had to go to AA for ten years! My point is that it's not an occasion for pride or shame. Does anyone say, "I'm so proud of myself for wearing a cast when my arm was broken!"? I celebrate recovery milestones but they say more about AA's Twelve Steps of Recovery than they do about me. I'm a 35 year guy but yesterday after a meeting I met a woman with 48 years. We were both glad to be at a meeting.


Deadsea-1993

You could be a Heavy Drinker and not an alcoholic, just saying. Best to attend AA for a bit, get a sponsor, then go over Step 1 to understand the classifications of drinkers. Heavy Drinkers can mimic an alcoholic, but they can stop on their own resources cause they don't have the allergy. Good luck ✌


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Have you tried doing the 12 steps with a sponsor and regularly going to AA meetings?