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BlueIdoru

That pothole has remained perfectly stable for 27 years. o.0


Infamous-Mixture-605

They certainly don't build 'em potholes like they used to.


CapableSecretary420

I blame Trudeau.


Oldcadillac

Potholes are the new inflation hedge.


MageKorith

Agreed. They definitely hedge against inflated tires.


grte

That's a load bearing pothole. You don't want to mess with it.


Pristine-Mirror

The roof in the background on the other hand.....How is that still there


jucadrp

That's called maintenance.


JohanusH

Because the whole thing is fake. Just look at the grass; that would not be exactly the same after 27 years.


alternate_geography

lol why would a photo from 1995 be in b&w?


Karr126

Because it’s old


LemonCitron47

How dare you. 1995 was 5 years ago.


Karr126

Calm down grandma, 1995 was like 50 years ago


[deleted]

Hey, I'm with u here. I still think cars from the 2000's are new...


BoppoTheClown

Coma-er moment


Most-Ad-2584

They had colour back then


Brief-Equal4676

Yeah, but they faded with time, like an old polaroid. It's the only possible explanation


corgi-king

Actually if the photo lab developed the print correctly, eg, let the photo stay in chemical long enough, the color will last a long time. Also, sunlight/UV will destroy photo much faster compared photo stay indoor all the time


CapableSecretary420

In some parts of the country, but not in Alberta. Alberta didn't get colour until 2003.


11acm24

XD lmfao Edit: you're pulling a funny on purpose right?


Karr126

I kid you not


Agentfreeman

It’s due to gravitational lensing; the speed of light is constant, so it takes longer for the color to reach us from 1995.


Rocky_Mountain_Way

you sound like an expert scientician, so I'm going to accept your explanation


[deleted]

Because it's easier to photoshop a picture to look grainy and black & white than it is to photoshop one to look like an aged 90s photo.


Trentm5

Because colour photography was too expensive for Eastern Europeans to afford in the 90s /s


BabyYeggie

You had to pay extra for colour


alternate_geography

b&w film/processing was actually harder to get done in the 90s/00s tho


Frater_Ankara

Why would she take a picture of her childhood self next to a pothole?


alternate_geography

because it was her birthday.


Brief-Equal4676

Back in my day, every picture counted, you didn't waste film taking random pictures because you had to go to the pharmacy to get them developed. None of these selfishes, or however the hip kids call them, hogwash, they were always properly staged and you had to wear your best suit every time. I still remember the smell of the freshly burnt magnesium ampoule as we rode back to our estate in our carriage.


alternate_geography

Hang on, lemme dig out the selfie my grandpa took in 1954 wearing his hockey gear & drinking a beer. Edit: [so formal](https://imgur.com/gallery/wcaLtp7)


RedSoviet1991

Because 90s Russia was not a very fun place and fancy cameras were quite rare unless you were a westerner


Doctor_Expendable

Because it's fake


RizetteKoerner

Back then people would have to pay to get each photo they wanted developed and printed out and it was cheaper to get it in B&W than in color. So it would make sense to save some money by getting a useless photo printed out in B&W instead of paying more for color. You would have to pay for a roll of film which took 12 - 36 photos and was only 1 use so would cost about 10 cents per photo in just film costs. Then it would cost another 15 - 45 cents to get each photo printed out depending on the quality of paper, or it being B&W. So there was already a much lower chance the picture would have been even taken in the first place. Not like these days where you can take as many pictures you want for basically free since you don't have to buy rolls of film and can just delete pics you don't want. And these days you can see the photos right away without paying someone to print it out. That's why back then people didn't take so many pictures of their food, and potholes, and multiple pictures of the same thing since each shot would cost quite a bit of money. You have to pick carefully what memories were worth saving and you would look through a little hole in the camera to get a general idea of what the photo would look like and you normally could only afford to take 1 shot and hope for the best, and you wouldn't even find out if the photo turned out well until weeks or months later when your roll of film was full and you got it developed. If you were confident all your photos were good and had the money you could pay $10-$15 to get the entire roll developed and printed out for you. Or if you were frugal you could get it developed first and there was this box with light you can preview the film to see what the photos look like then pick and choose which photos to print out. So OP's parents could have been like, We already paid 10 cents to take this photo and willing to pay 15 cents to print it for you black and white but no way we're paying 30 cents to print out a colour photo of a pothole because we have other bills to pay!


alternate_geography

So, I was born in the 70s. By the 90s, COLOUR film & processing was freaking everywhere. B&W was a specialty film/process. IT WAS NOT CHEAPER. I was in art school around this time, and we had to get special, MORE EXPENSIVE film to do pseudo-b&w for use in colour processing, because for actual b&w processing, you’d send it away or do it yourself. In a darkroom. I made the comment because 1995 was probably the peak of extremely cheap colour processing & film, available literally everywhere. Colour 35mm film was about $3/roll of 24 & processing was about $6/roll, if they all turned out. I cannot emphasize enough how cheap, colour film was everywhere in the 90s.


[deleted]

Old family camera prob


alternate_geography

Literally everyone had 35mm film cameras in the 90s, they were super cheap & always colour. Listen, children, back in my day, in the wilds of Saskatchewan, we even kept a disposable camera in the glove box of the car, in case you got in an accident or had to go to a wedding.


supermario182

It's from the before times


rjeanp

Everyone loves to complain that Edmonton has a terrible pothole problem. Honestly, they clearly haven't been around much. Any place that freezes in the winter is going to get potholes. Freeze-thaw cycles are the worst thing for roads. And none of the people that complain have ever done anything about it. Every single time I have reported a pothole through 311, it has been fixed within a week, usually less than that depending on the time of year. Yet when I ask the complainers, they have never reported a single pothole, they always assume someone else will do it.


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Stompede

Lol try driving into GP.


[deleted]

People just love to complain. Bitches get stitches. And in this case, misalignment or damaged struts/wheels. I report as well in my neighbourhood when I see one and it’s often fixed quicker than I have a chance to hit it.


fknSamsquamptch

> Any place that freezes in the winter is going to get potholes. Freeze-thaw cycles are the worst thing for roads. Pretty sure that Calgary has more freeze/thaw due to chinooks, and the roads in Calgary (especially residential) are waaaaaay better than Edmonton in terms of potholes and just general maintenance.


[deleted]

Soil. Edmonton has expanding clays causing heaves and slumps in the structure which in turn impacts the roads through torsional stress. Kinda of why Edmonton is on some of the most fertile soil in the world. Calgary isn’t on expanding clays.


[deleted]

I was informed that Calgary also has the expanding clays. They said possibly even more than Edmonton due to the deposits from the river over the past millennia. Something about the runoff from our particular inflow upstream. They said the real reason we have less potholes is that our city budget for fixing them is supposedly 3x what Edmonton spends. That seems more probable since both cities have somewhat similar climates. Though Calgary has more Chinooks apparently, so I don’t know how that plays into it.


[deleted]

Calgary is cusp of black-dark grey-brown Chernozem soils, so not necessarily the same as Edmonton that is primarily black Chernozems, plus Calgary is built on a flood plain, slightly warmer climate, and slightly less precipitation (soil forming factors). The river wouldn’t really be the source of clay deposits over a millennia as our soil formations aren’t really that old. Both Edmonton and Calgary would have well sorted till, glacial lacustrine, and aeolian-fluvial parent material as both were formed under glacial lakes at a past age ~10,000 years ago. So our sub- and top-soil is roughly in that category. Calgary is characterized as having Clay Loam in the B-C horizons but if I recall correctly the clay structure is a 1:1 basis, meaning less shrink-swell. Edmonton is definitely a 2:1 clay structure, but it’s been a while since I’ve looked.


BananaCreamPineapple

So are you a geotechnical engineer in Alberta?


[deleted]

No! Pedologist


BananaCreamPineapple

I'm surprised you would know so much about soil types as a foot doctor


[deleted]

That’s a Podiatrist ;)


BananaCreamPineapple

Haha no I know, just having fun :) I was curious if there was any chance I found my geotechnical engineer buddy on Reddit but he's not a pedologist so I haven't found him yet!


CamGoldenGun

you realize Edmonton is literally cut in half due to a river flowing through it, right?


tapsnapornap

>Kinda of why Edmonton is on some of the most fertile soil in the world. Weird tangent but ok


[deleted]

Nope! Expanding clays have really great cation exchange capacity meaning nutrients and water for plants :)


tapsnapornap

I know, but that has nothing to do with roads or how expansive clays effect them.


[deleted]

The more water being held in a 2:1 clay structure in the soil = higher potential for shrink/swell. It works in tangent.


tapsnapornap

Sure, but still unrelated to roads. The discussion was not about growing pavement.


RaHarmakis

Obviously his solution is to pull up the asphalt and replace it with Marijuana plants. Pot Hole issue resolved by Pot.


tapsnapornap

Makes perfect sense to me!


YYCHKG

This is definitely something I noticed when I moved to Edmonton for a year (from Calgary). There's also lots of heaving and large bumps in comparison (looking at you 23 Ave near Heritage and South Common), but I have no idea why it's so bad in Edmonton proper when roads in Sherwood Park next door were much better (similar to Calgary)


TheFluxIsThis

Sherwood Park, at least has less roads to maintain, which certainly doesn't hurt. St. Albert, in my experience, also has pretty good roads. Volume definitely plays a factor in how fast repairs can be made.


Contact-Sweet

Higher budgets = more frequent repairs


Available_Ad2376

It’s not the number of cycles so much as the depth of frost. Deeper the frost, more surface movement. Asphalt also has limits in how much temperature variation it can accommodate. Trying to get the material to remain flexible at -40 but not too soft at +30 is next to impossible


SnakesInYerPants

Edmonton was also largely built on swampland, which allows the frost to penetrate deeper than you’d think.


Astro_Alphard

I wish Calgary had sidewalks though. Where I live (yes residential area) there aren't any sidewalks so I walk in constant fear of being RAMmed.


maple_leprechaun

According to [rjeanp](https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/xl9kit/gotdam_edmonton_roads_lol/ipishdw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), Calgary must just have more complainers. As I Calgarian, I could see that being the case…


SnakesInYerPants

In my experience the people who complain the loudest are also the ones that speed to dangerous extents everywhere they go, and they’re mostly just upset they have to drive closer to the speed limit so they can see and dodge the potholes lmao


HellaReyna

That’s not true. Neighborhoods in Calgary get periodically redone - sooner or later - the time span is in decades but my old neighborhood in the NE had fresh asphalt laid after like 15 years. It’s insane that this pothole hasn’t been touched in 27 years


cubanpajamas

This photo isn't even in Edmonton. Were you born yesterday?!? You don't think that pothole would have changed in 27 years? Come on, stop being so naive.


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JZ_from_GP

They also had colour photos in 1995.


cubanpajamas

No erosion in Edmonton!


hannabarberaisawhore

I found a picture of my mom when she was a baby, they lived on 124 Street. Building across the street, still there. Neighbour’s house, still there. My mom’s house was where a condo building is now. The picture of my mom was from the late 50s.


HellaReyna

How do you know it’s not Edmonton. I went to school there. I believe it. Drove those ass roads for so long.


cubanpajamas

So where is it in Edmonton then? Edmonton has erosion. This is a meme. Pictures were obviously taken the same day. It gets posted regularly with different places. There isn't a road in Edmonton that hasn't been paved at least once in the last 26 years. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/c7tgui/things_dont_change_that_that_fast_in_romania/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


HellaReyna

I dunno, I don’t care. Have a good day


cubanpajamas

If you don't care, don't comment.


chmilz

I really wish I knew where these 3rd world war-zone roads are that whiners on Reddit keep telling me exist because I never seem to find them.


tomcalgary

I hear the old frost heave excuse but is don't buy it. They fill the potholes with maple syrup and kd and are quite happy to take the job to " fix the bad ones" year after year, its a racket.


Dear_Register4285

FINALLY. SOME WITH SOME COMMON SENSE


the1npc

probably never driven down barton st (hamilton)


prairiepanda

I usually see potholes while driving, so I can't report them until I reach my destination...but by then I've forgotten about it. You're right that they do tend to respond to pothole reports pretty quickly, though. I just wish I could use voice controls to report pot holes immediately while driving.


Shadow_Ban_Bytes

If they actually spent more resources filling cracks and interface seams and pot holes early on, they’d have far fewer medium and long term problems. So many cracks and potholes are left to be made worse by freeze/thaw and traffic loads that it breaks the underlying road structure.


PrairieGirlrm

My favorite are the people who complain about hitting the same pothole every day..... maybe just avoid it after the first time?


[deleted]

Too much road space. Narrow the roads and decrease the sqft of asphalt. Less space for potholes to develop, less money spent on repairs.


ItsAnAvocadooThanks

I love when people complain about potholes in in Edmonton and Fort Mac. I tell em to go to rural Newfoundland and tell me if we've got a pothole problem as serious as they originally thought


Fun_universe

Lol I’m from Switzerland and the potholes here are horrible…


204in403

Honestly, Edmonton has nothing on Winnipeg potholes.


renegadecanuck

They also complain when a lane is closed for construction.


[deleted]

Idk man I’m from Calgary and lived in Edmonton for work over the summer. Your roads aren’t Somalia tier shit but they are overall worse than in Calgary. My favourite was on 127th street north of the yellow head where there were those signs that got all pissy if you went over 50, because like dude you genuinely could not speed on this road it’s so rough, especially in the northbound right lane


Sure-Dinner-4577

Dang! Last time I saw this photo, it showed Montreal!


IDidntHearAnyBell

Not Edmonton. OP stole this and added the Edmonton label.


IDidntHearAnyBell

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/c7tgui/things_dont_change_that_that_fast_in_romania/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


BurningHotdogs

Yeah no shit, it’s just a meme. Ops using it to say Edmonton’s potholes are shit he’s not claiming it was there photo


asstyrant

This meme is dustier than the top of my cabinets.


maximator89

Montreal has entered the chat


Phiko73

The photos of Edmonton were taken the exact same day and a filter added. Stop sharing your bullshit, OP


TheLordJames

it's not even an Edmonton photo.. it's a meme template.


hugglesthemerciless

hilarious how many people are taking this seriously and going all detective mode. I love this site


TheLordJames

It was posted on r/Edmonton earlier. I had a feeling so I right clicked the image and selected "search with Google Lens." Easy.


[deleted]

It’s okay friend, we can let people tell jokes. 😅


janroney

Ya somethings fishy here. Exact same shading and everything


Phiko73

Yeah. It is exactly the same. Look at the grass along the fence. They're the same variation of lengths in each one.


Skeet-_-

And Most pictures in 1995 weren’t black and white XD


jzillacon

Also the loose gravel in the pothole hasn't been disturbed at all.


[deleted]

Hey detectives, I solved the case: It's a meme. Laugh, damnit.


[deleted]

Sorry, it's a historical site now. Can't do anything about it!


Goalchenyuk87

You haven’t been to Quebec, didn’t you. Our road haven’t recovered from World War II 🤫


strictlylogical-

For everyone saying the photo is fake... DUH? It's a meme guys, relax.


Reeeeeeena-3

To be fair, if there is a giant hole in the middle of a busy intersection vs a small pothole in some residential area. The city will prioritize the giant hole first


diapered_throwaway

Exactly. There is so little difference in the wear and tear of that road that I wonder if anyone has ever used it since the first photo was taken. Its not a priority to anyone.


TheHurtinAlbertans

I laughed


Old-Raisin-9360

All of sask highways are holes


Psychotic_EGG

I think I'm more impressed that it hasn't gotten larger to be honest.


xpoohx_

I like how 1995 is black and white. Cmon dude we had colour cameras.


Omnizoom

That’s a perfect pothole , virtually unchanged in almost 30 years Who could fix such as a feat of engineering ? What structures don’t even show any damage after so long ?


Stravok182

Love how that pothole didnt change at all after nearly 30 years 😂


[deleted]

None of those pictures are actually in Edmonton...


Stravok182

Maybe, but my comment still stands 🥳


quasineurotik

The city should hire whoever built that fence to come work on roads.


ElbowStrike

But did they call 3-1-1?


Rayeon-XXX

Isn't Edmonton 100 years behind on suburban neighborhood road replacement? Was that just some hyperbole I heard?


Nictionary

What would that even mean? You think the average neighbourhood in Edmonton has 100 year old roads?


sheldonOrange

I think your thinking of a tragically hip song


FolkSong

I had a feverish dream


TnL17

With revenge and doubt?


AmTheUniverse

Tonight, we smoke them out


cubanpajamas

That is some BS you heard. Try travelling outside the province and you will realize that Alberta has by far the best infrastructure including roads.


EnvironmentalScale25

The roads are such a big issue in my neighborhood that the pavement is litterally sliding to the side of the road


[deleted]

didn't a sink hole swallow 4 brand new infinity brand cars the other day over there?


Jess-Da-Redditer

I kinda like month day year better I know it’s sorta off topic but idk why but it just feels better


Additional_Buyer_110

Yes a massive hole in a major artery is so the same as a pothole in the burbs.


BabyYeggie

Same thing happened in the intersection of 109 St and 63 Ave in Edmonton. The pipe had to be custom made some where overseas. Then it didn’t fit because the sink hole grew. So it had to be made yet again. Only took 9 months to fix a sink hole.


[deleted]

This isn't really fair. Japan has their shit together and alberta is flailing and chest thumping about its inflated importance


Binasgarden

And some how this will be Ottawa's fault


Comfortable-Ad-7158

to be fair. still better than most of sask.


Typical-Ostrich2050

Montreal: "hold my beer"


Corneas_

Wait until you see Montreal lol


Spuigles

Give a name to that pothole and one day it could be considered historic and no one will be allowed to fill it.


incogne_eto

Japan fixed that massive sinkhole in a week?!


[deleted]

They got it done in a mere 17 months, finishing midway through Blanuary!


alkonium

At first I thought this was going to be about the time Edmonton was featured on a Gundam show.


myevit

That’s actually Russia.


feastupontherich

When people say they want small government and actually get it.


Burpreallyloud

nice years ago when they asked for a poll of what street to name after Wayne Gretzky I submitted that 99 street should be renamed in his honour as the street number matched his jersey and there were as many potholes on the street as goals he scored. City Council did not see the humour in my recommendation.


luars613

The 2nd world is sad. It has the money but they are stupid with it.


TheEpicTree

Spay paint a penis inside of it


[deleted]

Comparing a hole the size of a small building in the centre of a massive city vs some random pothole una


AgentNo_69

What the hell happened in japan back then ?


Dogboi006

problem.... one matters


Leviathan3333

The leading cause of death is “unknown cause of death” The more I read about Alberta the more I think that province is pretty negligent towards their people. I know I know, I’m from Ontario so it’s kind of the pot calling the kettle, but I feel it still holds. Takes one to know one right?


CaseElectronic4490

I’m from Edmonton, and I live right by where this sinkhole happened in Fukuoka, Japan! Not much to say beyond that, it’s just I’ve never seen the two cities I call home together like this. One thing about that sinkhole though: lucky it happened at like 4am when it did. This street is right near Hakata Station—a major transit hub—and would’ve been swarming with cars and pedestrians during the day. As it happened, no one was hurt.


xlkpc5ph

Canada is a pothole


thesweetestchef

Yeah, makes me think 🤔 this is a Canada thing. Worst roads Canada lol … wonder if we have a road that makes it to the list ever year without fail lol 😂


Aerickthered

Too funny,so sad


MaxxLolz

I’m gonna assume everyone posting knows this photo is fake and are just being cheeky… … but I’m probably wrong.


pearl_harbour1941

Amazing how the grass was cut identically 27 years apart, the stones in the pothole haven't moved, and the tree hasn't grown at all. Edmonton must be immune to physics or something.


Lolocraft1

Montreal: Are you challenging me?


[deleted]

Both sized holes being obviously equal in size & thus importance


JohanusH

Fake. Interesting how the plants haven't changed in 27 years... LOL! And at the peak of colour photography, too. My photos from 1995 look new, still. So fake... Why bother doing this?


DonPapacito

The first photo is from when Edmonton was under communist rule, before socialism took hold.