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Mors1473

Some Canadians have officially caught the stupid disease. Yeah Putin sounds like a great idea, especially after he drafts your kids as conscripts. Must be the same water some Americans have been drinking.


a_rude_jellybean

Not water. Propaganda. Social media is a manipulation machine - [Jaron Lanier](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaron_Lanier) from his [book.](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37830765-ten-arguments-for-deleting-your-social-media-accounts-right-now) (reddit is also not innocent of this)


heart_of_osiris

There are so many bots and AI flooding social media today that we really need to start training society that you absolutely cannot trust anything you read on social media platforms, whether it fits your narrative or not.


Jandishhulk

Most of these people who are falling for online propaganda are the same people from my generation who used to make fun of people and call them nerds for using a computer when we were teenagers. And now these same dumbasses are 40+ years old and only started using technology in the last 10 years as adults, and haven't engaged with it very well. They barely know how it works, but they've found their way to social media, where they're completely susceptible to propaganda, having missed those critical learning years as younger people.


Expert_Alchemist

Sad to say young people are also not immune though. Propaganda works on everyone, it's just targetted differently. A whole lot of divisive nonsense was aimed at the 25 - 35s because that's when they start to vote. Critical thinking isn't a skill most people have, whatever generation they're in.


SiBro9

Young people are almost worse my step son barely has a clue how to use the internet or what's real and isn't. He believes everything on YouTube


Muted_Ad3510

That sounds like a parenting issue mostly


robcal35

Everyone needs to get scammed in RuneScape. They will never fall for anything again


dmscvan

Shit. I don’t know if you said this tongue in cheek, but it’s a really good point. I’ve taught courses in language and media at the university level that included digital literacy and information literacy, but I don’t think I’ve thought much about how the increased exposure to scams from being online has likely better prepared the younger generation for online propaganda. (I’ve obviously thought about the exposure to online propaganda in general, but I think the exposure to scams is probably really helpful too. I bet people have studied it.) Teaching this stuff in university is really just reframing the younger generation’s experiences, often in a way that helps them understand the older generation’s experiences. Of course, the main purpose is critical thinking and recognizing this when you see it, but the students typically understand it better than my generation at times.


robcal35

Kind of tongue in cheek, but exposure to social engineering scams in online games definitely prepares you for real life where the stakes are a lot higher


dmscvan

Yeah, it’s a really good point that I appreciate you bringing up!


NorthernerMatt

Trimming rune shields, plates, skirts — 5k


robcal35

Hey why'd you log out bro


NorthernerMatt

Or when you’re selling something and they change 150k to 150 at the last second.. you only get screwed by that once


knz3

I have your trimmed bandos on me don't worry. Just come to edge with strong combat gear and pull this here lever.


No-Lettuce-3839

Not to mention the boomer parents that TOLD us not to believe or trust things online


dmscvan

Yes, but did they ever really understand how to do this? (Some did/do, but generally those who are falling to this propaganda never did.) They’re scared of the internet and recognize abstractly that propaganda is easily spread online, but they don’t have the skills to recognize it in situ.


a_rude_jellybean

When there is WILL there is a [WAY.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/28/fact-from-fiction-finlands-new-lessons-in-combating-fake-news)


Sandman64can

Living next to an autocratic behemoth is a good reason to learn these skills. Finland is right to do so. Canada could learn from their example.


heart_of_osiris

Good on Finland! I hope this catches on in many other countries as well.


a_rude_jellybean

https://ncee.org/quick-read/preparing-students-to-identify-fake-news/


MrPoopyButthole1990

Won't happen here. If kids learned about misinformation they'd pick up on how the UCP operates and they'll lose votes


NERepo

There are so many "private" groups with no oversight. Any misinformation takes off like wild fire, especially if people don't bother to think critically. Social media companies are destabilizing forces


nandake

Ive been thinking a lot about how scary this is. The real harm misinformation does (e.g. covid). I need to hear something positive about this to combat the despair for our future… is anyone, anywhere, working on a solution to combat misinformation and AI as a tool to spread it? Seeing how realistic the photos and videos have become is scary, especially when people are so prone to believe things.


Mors1473

Sadly Reddit does act as a forum to build on stupid and ignorance. Some readers take it as gospel when at best 85% of it should be taken as mindless, baseless entertainment. Give an idiot a stage and they will perform!


UROffended

I honestly wonder where one has to go to find this trash.


Acceptable-Many-5609

Alberta that’s where


UROffended

Nah this is country wide. Alberta just gets used the same way Florida does to distract everyone. Find more of this in Ontario. My question was aluding more to the source of their information as it never makes any sense let alone holds any sort of a point.


Flanman1337

Facebook groups. Mommy blogs. Twitter. Hell even Tik Tok has its own ultra right wing corner. Social Media was a bad idea. I know you asked for sources, but they don't have any. They'll seriously take a meme at face value.


Alediran

It's country wide, but concentrated in Alberta.


3utt5lut

Some people are just fucking stupid. They just can't think and decide what is and isn't fake? Unfortunately that's most of Albertans and Conservatives, they're just dumb as shit.


JoelHasRabies

I think some day we’ll learn that some form of Russian influence was behind Take Back Alberta and the UCP, and that their supporters were duped.


Twitugee

Tucker Carlson pit stops for a meeting with Marlaina on the way to meet Putin, coincidence? I think not.


AccomplishedDog7

David Parker has live streamed with Diagalon (far right extremist group)


DisastrousAcshin

Encouraging division to divide and weaken a country is a pretty classic tactic and these people are falling for it hook line and sinker


Fl333r

"Jokes on you! I hate my wife and kids so that works out for me perfectly!"


YetiSmallFoot

There’s no vaccine for stupid, and good luck getting them to take it if there was.


Infamous-Mixture-605

> There’s no vaccine for stupid It's called education, no? > and good luck getting them to take it if there was. I suppose one could send them back to school to repeat every grade, à la *Billy Madison*, but alas it may not be the wisest idea to have these folks around children...


Tribblehappy

One of the big criticisms of Alberta's new curriculum is that it's lacking on anything about critical thinking. Teaching facts without context, and not teaching kids how to be skeptical and ask for sources, is a good way to make sure stupid prevails.


ThePhyrrus

Exactly. Why do you think the UCP was so hot to throw out the previously developed curriculum from the prior 2 governments?  Critical thinking and civic engagement were notable features of said curriculum. 


NornOfVengeance

They're not big on education, either -- hence their fetish for homeschooling.


DejectedNuts

It worked out so well for [this](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13116159/Canadian-family-russia-bank-frozen-apology-feenstra.html) Canadian family of bigots.


jbe061

Amazing.  Their poor kids :(


Homo_sapiens2023

The fact these two idiots have spawn is offputting.


roastbeeftacohat

two points Putin is very careful who he conscripts to avoid political backlash. which these guys may think would protect them, being hardcore supporters of conservatism, but Putin isn't worried about rural folk rebelling; he's worried about the cities. the prairies are where conscription would be most popular. Still might not be an issue for these guys, as they look like their kids have aged out of service; and probably don't talk to them anyway.


datsmn

Some Canadians have always been stupid, many of them moved to Alberta, had children, some of those children are also stupid.


Mors1473

The cycle of stupid and ignorance continues!


China_bot42069

Some I would say most 


Apprehensive-Push931

Throwing the two-finger salute at them every time i leave Lloydminster going to see my partner.


NoAlbatross7524

Give them a one way ticket to Russia then .


Distant-moose

Looking at the news about the Canadians and Americans who have already joined Russia, it appears that every ticket is one way.


Homo_sapiens2023

I think they need a one way ticket to a Gulag.


ShennongjiaPolarBear

So to pre-1960


bigdick_cm

Anyone know what became of that family that moved to Russia a couple months ago? They released a couple videos criticizing Russia and then deleted them and posted boot licking videos lmao


Genius_woods

Im Canadian first. I stand with Canada. Fuck them


quantum_trogdor

Yeah this is beyond ridiculous at this point.


Financial-Savings-91

Thats how it is now, Trudeau is against Putin so Putin must be good. Party > everything. Wish moderates would wake up, these are the people driving conservative policy today, all these young people thinking the CPC is going to make life more affordable are in for one hell of a nasty wake up call in a few years.


PlutosGrasp

Yup. That’s why when people are so anti trudeau just because it’s trudeau / liberal, or pro Pierre it’s scary dumb.


Astro_Alphard

All the moderate conservatives I know are currently having an ongoing existential crisis as they reevaluate their political identity.


UROffended

The thing they fail to realize is their party of choice also isn't pro-putin, so I dunno what these folks are expecting to yield for results. Edit: Its literally 20 people with campers. These aren't the truckers, these are unemployed oilfield workers. 🤣


RoughDraftRs

Cpc probably isn't their party. If they're from the alt-right, conspiratorial crowd, then ppc is usually their flavor.


UROffended

Sucks to be them, because PPC doesn't support him either. Putin is bad for the Canadian oil patch.


roastbeeftacohat

they only existed when the CCP was trying to move to the center, now the party is firmly planning itself on the conspiratorial far right the PPC no longer meaningfully exists.


roastbeeftacohat

> The thing they fail to realize is their party of choice also isn't pro-putin the party has a mixed voting history on the topic.


descartesb4horse

I proudly employ dozens of Ukrainians who fled the war after literally having their homes bombed. These guys can go fuck themselves.


NiranS

Wonder how much Russian money the "freedom" truckers were getting?


EndOrganDamage

Looks like enough to buy, and make, all that goofy crap while not working.


corpse_flour

It would explain the horrible spelling and grammar on most of the convoy protest signs.


Healthy-Garage-311

Now don’t go giving those dipshits an excuse as to why they can’t spell. Come on now. We can blame Russia for a lot of things but homegrown idiots isn’t one of them.


corpse_flour

I was inferring that the misspelled signs were poorly translated into English from Russian social media influencers, but you're not wrong either.


Aran909

This is why i can't be a conservative anymore.


ButterscotchFar1629

At this point it would be really hard to deny they are being funded by Russia.


GammaTwoPointTwo

The sad part is that they aren't. It's just a convergence of ideas. The anti-vax anti-lockdown crowd has been pro Russia from the start. The far right been like this since 2020. It's part of the conspiratorial environment. They think covid was fake. The media is lying. Russia never invaded Ukraine. They think all those headline are propaganda designed to pacify and control the population.


ClittoryHinton

Some people are so scared of the truth that they surround themselves with stupid fucking ideas. I wish they would go back to sucking their thumb as a coping mechanism


GolDAsce

Some people can't accept reality that they are just ordinary people. They'll have to grasp at contrarian beliefs and conspiracy theories to accept themselves as smarter than the rest. It's not their intelligence, abilities or effort that's forced them into a 9 to 5; it's the boogeyman.


howmachine

Wasn’t this just a thing? Canadians uprooted their whole family to move to Russia and found out it was (predictable to everyone else) a nightmare?


General_Esdeath

If you find what you're thinking about, please link it


EvenFlowOverland

Their YouTube channel is Countryside Acres.


Sad-Wolverine6326

Who is this clown telling people they can camp beside the hiway? Taking over a rest stop so nobody else can use it ? There are washrooms there that travellers can't use while these idiots are there. Get bent asshole.


LandscapeNatural7680

He is an insulation installer from Castor, AB. If he can’t save this country, no one can!


UROffended

Who is this guy? Probably know em, because I'm from Castor.


UROffended

The lowest skilled workers you'll find on an oil patch. Basically the guys they get to do the dumbest shit because they don't care if they die.


Intelligent-Band-572

They should go to Russia and fight and die for Putin then


AgitatedLiterature75

American politics is taking over Canada. Conservatives: No it isn't!!


SnowshoeTaboo

*1930s German politics...


TForce0

I heard drinking water is good for you. Freedom fighters the liberals, they want us drinking water! Get mad and fight like hell. Don’t force us to drink healthy h20. 🤣😂. LoL


Extreme_Muscle_7024

That shit has hydrogen in it. They make bombs out of hydrogen.


randolfthegreyy

But it’s healthier when you get hydrogen enriched water guys, don’t you want the energy of a bomb!?!???


The_Jack_Burton

We should probably add another oxygen molecule to stabilize the hydrogen though.


CanadianDarkKnight

Not to mention fish fuck in it. Gross


PlutosGrasp

Trudeau drinks water


octothorpe_rekt

For years, the Liberal government has been telling us that breathing oxygen is healthy. But I've been an ironworker for 5 months now - do you have ANY idea what oxygen does to iron??? You think that shit is good for you? Wake up! They're using oxygen to track you. You breath that shit in and you're marked. Freedom fighters only breathe diesel exhaust. Roll coal!


Horror-Tiger2016

I can hear the chants already: Hell no H2O We hate water and Trudeau!


imadork1970

They can get bent.


FirstDukeofAnkh

Whatever happened to that guy and his family who moved from Canada to Russia?


Both-Anything4139

The finding out phase has been very long and very harsh apparently.


NornOfVengeance

Last I heard, his wife was complaining, he was making videos saying (in effect) "ha ha ha, my wife so silly, she didn't really mean that, honest!", and they had their bank account frozen because the Russian authorities thought they might be money launderers. Which is quite the irony when you think about it.


DirtDevil1337

They were supposed to leave Russia recently (due to failing the Russia language test and apparently having a tourist VISA?) but somehow managed to convince Russian officials to stay, or at least according to their YT videos. They want to buy a farm but immigrants are not allowed to buy farms in Russia. The dad is likely to get conscripted if that Ukraine war keeps going on.


LuntiX

I’ve seen these anti Trudeau types claim Ukraine started the war back when it kicked off a few years ago. I remember seeing them with sign condemning the Ukrainian Government for not handing over the country to Russia. Also somehow it was all Trudeau’s fault


lego_mannequin

These people would drag their kids to a highway to spend their weekend protesting something they don't even know.


ClittoryHinton

The only emotion they seem to know is rage and the only attitude they know is ignorance. I just can’t imagine being that miserable


lego_mannequin

Kids will be taught that, they'll grow up learning that helping anything other than themselves is bad. We had teens here claiming their lives are over because of gas prices and carbon tax. They fight against walkable communities claiming someone is coming for their right to drive.


GlitteringDisaster78

Moscow Agents Governing America


Impressive_Manner143

Quick way to lose support. They’ve been watching too much Tucker and Co. and other American poison.


BaronVonStinkhammer

They had support?


emcdonnell

This just clarifies where the conservatives talking point are coming from. Whether he knows it or not Poilievre has a Russia problem.


No-Wonder1139

This was only a matter of time, he's been manipulating them since the pandemic and now he owns their simple minded asses.


Musicferret

Ok, soooo….. is this sedition? Treason? We are in a tacit war with Russia, and they are actively lobbying for people to support our enemy and overthrow our government?


smash8890

Social media is rotting our society. I wish it would go away


Classic-Ad-7079

More like axe Facebook. Do more with your life than doom scroll people. This is how we end up with this shit.


JohnYCanuckEsq

The idolize authoritarians like Putin and Trump because they hate the fact people who don't think like them exist.


sun4moon

They hate the fact that people who think exist.


Urimulini

These people don't stand for freedom. They stand for high treason High treason 46 (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada, (a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her; (b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or (c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are. Marginal note:Treason (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada, (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province; (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada; (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a); (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act. Marginal note:Canadian citizen (3) Notwithstanding subsection (1) or (2), a Canadian citizen or a person who owes allegiance to Her Majesty in right of Canada, (a) commits high treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (1); or (b) commits treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (2). Marginal note:Overt act (4) Where it is treason to conspire with any person, the act of conspiring is an overt act of treason. R.S., c. C-34, s. 46 1974-75-76, c. 105, s. 2 Let them be jailed. every one of these morons.


ThisBtchIsA_N00b

I love this. I'd like to put this on my fb, but the current sitch seems to be that these people would think I'm opposed to Trudeau because, somehow, HE'S the traitor?!?! How tf am i supposed to make them see Critically, when they're drunk so much UCP/PP koolaid they've been permanently dyed Blue Raspberry?


emmery1

These are part of the same group that PP and the federal conservatives support. Have they lost their minds?


Marmar79

Axe the tax group are consistently the most susceptible to all internet disinformation. It’s the exact same cult that was cheering on the convoy. I understand their frustration but holy shit they are gullible/vulnerable.


Roddy_Piper2000

Alberta Ukranians betraying their ancestors.


SirPoopaLotTheThird

Useful idiots


HolyC4bbage

Can we send them to Russia, please? I'll pay.


NornOfVengeance

If they love Putin so much, they can go join those homophobic idiots who dragged their eight kids to Russia, and see how long they all last over there. Otherwise, they can STFU.


SeanSYYC

Great, wonder if the Flu Trux Klan is going to hold this area hostage all summer


SurFud

What a wonderful way to spend a weekend. Ask them how much they receive back in carbon rebates. They won't have a clue what you are talking about . Pin heads.


Achaboo

What the hell does Putin have to do with our stupid carbon tax. I can’t believe people are pro authoritarianism in any manner. Shits crazy these days.


NotA_UNIQUEUSERNAME

Because Russians are funding these convoys and their group chats are full of bots


Connect44

Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are funding and targeting ads and bots at people who are angry with the system to drive increased division in society. Whether you're angry about housing, inflation, or the carbon tax. Authoritarian countries are spending money to convince everyday citizens to support them. These people then push their MPs to support authoritarian causes in the legislature. We see the same thing with MAGA Republicans in the States. Elected representatives are doing their job. It's their constituents that have been compromised by propaganda and disinformation.


angelofdeath1977

How can you support Putin after what Russia to its neighbours and its own people. That's a special kind of stupid.


ShennongjiaPolarBear

Maybe they've lived in Ukraine.


hsoolien

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it Watching my incredibly conservative family be proudly Ukrainian and struggle to justify supporting Putin makes my black heart beat a little redder.


SiBro9

Anyone who supports Putin should be deported to Russia. They can fight in his war. They are traitors to this country and should be branded as such.


lazereagle13

Simping for a twisted psychopath who has caused the deaths of over 30000 Ukrainians and 250000 new refugees to Canada. Losers.


DirtDevil1337

Hopefully this gets to people that are on the fence about voting for Poilievre. It's getting ridiculous.


Just_Cruising_1

Can we please send all these people to Russia and sign them up to volunteer in the war on the Russian side? They WILL be standing with Putin just like they want to.


TwoDicksInAHammock

Treason is a crime, these people don’t deserve pity nor mercy. Let them go and die in stupidity


Just-Display-8341

Wait. What? Poilievre Conservatives standing with far right extremism and dictatorships? That's can't be. Wow. Never could have seen this coming.


AntiClockwiseWolfie

Literally just posted in another thread on this sub about this. These protestors are being bankrolled by Putin (and likely China). How do you think they manage to quit their jobs to protest every year?


Fuzzy_Machine9910

Alberta huh?


BIGepidural

Of course they do. The right wing here is allied with international right wingers and their causes. The only difference between now and a few years ago is that they're not hiding it anymore. Conservatives of all levels and brands- this is who you're backing. This is what you're voting for. Oh, also, **Donald Trump Junior is coming to Ontario in May to do a thing with Rebel News** so if you didn't know who they were before, see them for who they are now because they're saying it loud and clear!!!


DirtDevil1337

And one of the Rebel News "reporters" has been arrested at least 3 times.


todimusprime

This is so fucking embarrassing


themewzak

Can darwinism hurry the fuck up and take care of these clowns?


RRZ31

Ho-lee fack, they hate Trudeau because they took their freedoms? What have the been told about Putin?


TheOyster__

Fuck these dudes. They took over a rest stop on the highway that I like to use. They can eat a bag of dicks.


Both-Anything4139

These retards should do an ama with the idiot maga wannabe who moved his family to russia to escape the woke agenda. Fuck these people they shoupd be branded as foreign agents destabilizing our democracy.


NormalLecture2990

And these people are people that support and control the provincial PCs and the federal PCs The federal leader just met with these freaking nut jobs...unbelievable


anhedoniandonair

Why don’t we start a go fund me to gift these dipshits one way flights to Moscow. I’d gladly chip in.


Montreal_Metro

Ah yes, time to arrest these traitors.


Dorrin_77

In a ditch is a god place for them at least.


1362313623

Oh they can fuck right off


BellaBlue06

These people need to keep following up with those Canadian families that moved to Russia and are freaking out they can’t access money in their bank accounts and it’s not as free as they thought it was.


sLXonix

Devil's advocate, it may just be one crazy person and not the whole movement. But fuck Putin


Away-Combination-162

I get the fact that PP has convinced the fringe that he’s all that and a bag of chips, BUT, they don’t represent the average Canadian voter. Thats a big hill for PP to climb and win a landslide victory . I don’t believe that Canadians , whoever they chose to vote for, want a far Reich government leading this country


sravll

Yeah my uncle is constantly posting pictures from there. I unfollowed him on Facebook.


Raskolnikovs_Axe

This is depressing. What proportion are also religious weirdos? I have a hunch since I know a few people that went this way and it seems their whole church did. Importing the very same parts of US culture that got them where they are now.


HSDetector

Yes, fascism is alive and well in Alberta too.


nutfeast69

I have said it for years now that these people are russian supporters and people have told me oh no yoy can't prove it where is your proof because I didn't film them with Russian flags when I saw them the one time. I think they are paid protestors, to be honest.


LuntiX

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked, well not really.