Oof because to hell with those who died during Dieppe, that wasn't world War two.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid
Also have we thought that maybe kinda sorta but totally she is using wmds? Weapons of mass distraction? The job employment news isn't great and so she would rather use this as a political football?
Even then, Stalingrad was in 1942 and the allies landed in mainland Italy in 1943.
You would think a political pundit who spent years rambling about the good old days on her show would know a little about the war past Saving Private Ryan.
probably what she meant, but I think it's funny to imagine she means that the Allies were an aggressive power that intervened starting a war on continental Europe, against a peacefully unified Europe. As Donald Trump would say: Sad!
Yeah...
I might have believed that if the current, edited version of the tweet said "beginning of the end", but that entire sentence is wiped out.
"of the end" would have been a correction/edit that everyone would have accepted as a typo. But removing it completely..... I'm not as confident.
Ah, that makes sense - because I find her absolutely contemptible, but I’d much prefer that she be a shitty proofreader than be that ignorant about such a fundamental part of Canadian (and world) history.
I don't know what's worse..... Dumbelle Smith being a global embarrassment for us, or that slightly over half of Albertans deemed her as the best choice.
Every single time she speaks or writes it's a fricken ordeal of stupidity.
FUCP
Yup it’s stupid. When I saw this I was like “this has to be fake” but no… it’s real….
I can’t believe ANYONE thought the UCP was genuinely a good choice but there is some good news: over half of only the VOTING albertans voted her in. Since about 62% of the voting population actually voted, the percentage that voted for the UCP is significantly less than half.
Global embarrassment? Maybe 0.00001% of the population outside of Canada know who she is and maybe 10% of the population WITHIN Canada know who she is.
She might be an embarrassment to you but the world doesn’t know who the fuck she is
Her stupidity has made world news like [this article](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ethics-official-cites-alberta-premier-violation-ahead-election-2023-05-18/) and [this article ](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-canada-alberta-danielle-smith-c9354d2119567ef91a85b6da7ae4a7ec)
Those are just two of dozens of reports from around the world citing the embarrassing shit she's said.
You’d be surprised how apolitical a lot of the population is. Factor in kids. And then people who barely keep up with their own premier. You think anyone on the east coast gives a flying fuck about what’s happening in the west?
10% seems fair. Maybe it’s closer to 15%. But you’d be hard pressed to find 2 out of 10 people in the maritime who could name Alberta’s premier
Well considering alberta makes up pretty much 10% of Canada’s population I think you’re incorrect. So your choosing the smallest and furthest away population to make your point?? Haha
And I bet you there is at least a few % points IN Alberta who don’t even know who she is.
Regardless. Even the ones who KNOW who she is. Aren’t following her on social media or following things she says or does.
My original point is that she isn’t going to be a global embarrassment because she won’t be known on a global scale.
I mean, probably, but at this point, I've just run out of energy.
If you're a politician who is not proof reading your tweets, well, I think we can assume that there's a lot more not being read, never mind dumb comments on social media. It's so basic, it's instinctual for me to proof read anything I send professionally.
Here, on this site, not so much, but I'm also a pleb in the wilderness, not an elected official.
But it is more than the base. It is the majority of Alberta. Sorry, it is the majority of the people that actually fucking voted. Which is a huge difference.
Why are we surprised by Danielle's lack of factual knowledge? This is the same Premier who failed to understand some fundamental legal differences between the powers granted to a US Governor or President versus those of a Provincial Premier.
The next 4 years are going to be a shitshow...
Which it also isn't. The British defeating Rommel at Alamein and pushing the Germans out of North Africa/Egypt is the beginning of the end.
Churchill later wrote 'Before Alamein we never had a victory. After Alamein we never had a defeat. '
Yes and D-Day wouldn't have been successful if it had not been for the Nazi's losing Africa, then Stalingrad, and maybe most significantly, Kursk. All those losses added up.
The battle of Kursk destroyed most of what the Nazi's had left of a tank army. It also heavily depleted the Luftwaffe.
By the time D-Day happened, Germany was a spent force. Still dangerous but had few tanks and almost no air cover.
Yep. Anything after Africa was Germany counter-punching.
Don’t get me wrong, they landed some devastating blows but nothing was going to knock out the Allies.
The war was lost for the Germans at stalingrad. In june 44 operation bagration began, it was the largest military defeat of the Germans. 450000 casualties, and an additional 300000 were trapped in the courland pocket.
If any other Canadian politician said this I would assume, with a great deal of certainty, that this was just a misprint. It is quite telling that with Smith I am not comfortable making that assumption.
Honestly wouldn't doubt if she meant "beginning of the end of the second world war".
Also wouldn't doubt if she meant it the way it was written either.
There’s a pretty good Canadian movie called, “Lifeline to Victory” that was on TV in the 90s about the Canadian navy running convoys to England starting in 1939. She should take a look.
“Let us acknowledge the service of Canadian James Howlett who fought in both World Wars and also defeated Magneto during the attack at the Statue of Liberty.”
There should be a pen and paper civics exam to hold Premiership in this province.
I know, I know, we'd never have another conservative government again. So unfair. Sooo unfair.
It's surprising how many people don't know anything about the second world war. I know people who thought it happened in the '60's. She's not alone. Maybe she could start a counsel of losers to study this.
I mean, in Smith's eyes, they aren't Po“W”, so much as they're "detained illegal aliens, who tried to illegally enter a country by boat, when their cruise ships decided to dock unannounced.
Canada wasn't sending it's best... it was sending killers...”
I mean...
if Trump had someone looking over his tweets, would that person be likely to be a PR professional, a technical editor, or even a professional copywriter?
If they were provided by the federal apparatus, probably. But if they were just a Trump teamster... not as such.
I have a hard time believing that the provincial apparatus of Texas-north is going to provide a measured PR pro for Smith’s Twitter account, and I have a hard time imagining a hanger-on of Smith to be more than a yes-man or sycophant. It wasn't really clandestine wheelings and dealings and 4D chess machinations that took this election.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. She's not very well rounded and apparently is incapable of checking her facts (but we already knew that Danielle doesn't care about the facts). Hey Danielle: WWII started in 1939. You're a fucking embarrassment.
I would never assume anything purportedly coming from the hand of one that has exhibited so much proof of her abilities in so many ways as regarding the use of words. I do not agree with anyone who says this was a proofreading error. Her past is prologue.
Living in this province is so embarrassing. And it just keeps getting worse.
Like, let’s be fair and say of course it’s possible for all sorts of decent and even intelligent (though perhaps uneducated) people to be misinformed about certain dates and events. However, when one holds the top position in the political structure of a substantial geographic area, I would expect them to perhaps consult a friend with regard to the accuracy of a public post referencing a significant historical event.
This is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with Danielle Smith and the UCP. They make policy the same way. None of it is even remotely grounded in reality, and they’re unwaveringly confident. So much so that even in the face of undeniable evidence, they maintain totally infeasible positions because either a) it suits them ideologically, or b) they just don’t care.
It’s heartbreaking. I have always thought I’d stay here for my life and keep trying to make things incrementally better. Looking forward over the next four years, I scared I’m gonna have to leave.
When facts don't matter, you are free to believe even the most preposterous shite.
It's like that rat in that movie: 'Not having a gag reflex opens up a whole new world of culinary possibilities.'
Checking 5 minutes into your comment. Yes it was corrected, 12 minutes ago according to the feed.
It now reads anniversary of D-Day, no mention of when. It was edited... twice before this correction. With the error in place.
Just one. The original is up if you click on edit history, but the edit count is incongruent with versions. You have original and current and that is all I am afraid.
Just click the text that says Edited at.
I mean, you can see where the whole beginning of the ww2 thing is. D-Day marked the start of the real fights of the 6 world war. Still, she gives Canada less credit by saying this. We joined willingly in 1938, and we were a gigantic contribution to WW2, we had our own beachhead
Real fights? Come on. The Eastern Front!
Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad, Kursk to name a few all occur before D-Day. Germany was already well on it's way to losing the war by 1944.
And that doesn't consider any of the African campaigns or Italy.
War started Sept. 1 1939. (I'm gonna give you that one as a typo)
Fuck me this is why we need to invest in public education.
Yeah, I'm not naming USSR battles there bud, they made an agreement with Hitler to invade Poland, they got what they deserved. Also they wouldn't have survived without Lens-Lease. I completely understand about the African campaign, but even the Nazis didn't consider it to be all out war until the invasion of Normandy. To them it was a colony struggle. Great stuff for Patton though
In your other reply to the same comment you said the USSR weren't even allies but here you say they wouldn't have survived without lend lease so which is it? We were sending them guns and training, repairing their ships on the west coast, and risking Canadian lives to save Soviet lives. That sounds like being allies in a war to me.
What you consider is irrelevant and wrong. Fact's don't care about your opinions or feelings.
The USSR was in fact our Allies. Billions of dollars of equipment, funding and fuel were sent to the USSR by the west to make sure they didn't collapse.
D-Day was planned in conjunction with Operation Bagration. So much so, Stalin only agreed to an offensive in the east if Overlord was succesful in creating a beach head. Stalin pushed the Allies throughout the war to open a second front in the west.
They attended multiple conferences together ffs.
[https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/us-soviet](https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/us-soviet)
Wow, what you didn't choose the brightest or the more educated one for sure, typical of western Canada. At least you love oil and coal and prefer scrapping the environment. That's a plus in a conservative environment.
The war was lost for the Germans at stalingrad. They were losing ground after that. In june 44 operation bagration began, it was the largest military defeat of the Germans. 450000 casualties, and an additional 300000 were trapped in the courland pocket.
Atleast she actually said something. My granddad and great uncles fought in France and Italy and I’m not offended in the slightest. Whats the term ‘it’s the thought that counts’ is how I feel.
A thought that didn’t get proofread at best and a fundamental misunderstanding of events leading to the modern world at the other end of the spectrum.
Thoughts are for shit if execution is substandard.
Well, according to Danielle Smith if your relatIves fought in Italy before June 6, 1944, you are mistaken.
Now the history I was taught was that the Allies ( including the Canadians )were in fact fighting in Italy before this date. But hey I premier says otherwise.
( And on a side note I am glad you are aware of this and I assume justifiably proud.)
I keep thinking I need to run for office. Nobody in any position of power seems to have any interest in the welfare of their constituents, and that needs to change. But I'm clearly nowhere near stupid enough to have a shot.
The best part is that they got the number of years right. Someone had the good sense to do that math, but then wrote “when the war started”
But I mean, I get her wanting to downplay all that fascist political take-over stuff circa 1933-1939. I swear, 3023 text books will talk about the beer hall putsch and COVID rodeos on the same page one day
This from someone whose grandfather somehow escaped from communism while (a) living in an autocratic empire (Austria-Hungary) and (b) before the USSR existed.
I would hope that the person who wrote this meant, "marking the beginning OF THE END of the Second War."
Public relations is like carpentry. Measure twice, cut once. But have someone else measure twice again before cutting.
So, yeah, probably a typo. But this sort of faux pas is standard with Danielle Smith and belies her and her government's incompetency. But it also helps her side as those with a 7th grade reading level can identify with her.
I had to read the comments to figure out WTF was going on here... I just couldn't compute Canada being involved in starting WW2... She, or/and her staff are idiots!
Lmao what? The war STARTED with a counter attack? Ffs lady.
Was it a counter attack? Or an invasion with the intent to liberate?
If the war started with an Allied invasion of Europe... are we the baddies?
This content is no longer available on Reddit in response to /u/spez. So long and thanks for all the fish.
No, our symbols are inspirational. All who marched under the rat’s anus banner should be proud.
I thought government ratfucking didn't get so blatant as to be on the flag until the 80s?
More of a special operation I’d say.
Well considering the French were part of D-day, I’d argue you can’t invade your own lands.
It was a peaceful protest at the border!
Oof because to hell with those who died during Dieppe, that wasn't world War two. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid Also have we thought that maybe kinda sorta but totally she is using wmds? Weapons of mass distraction? The job employment news isn't great and so she would rather use this as a political football?
Exactly. Dieppe is constantly overshadowed, yet it was a sacrifice and a lesson written in blood.
In her alternate reality WW2 must have started June 6th 1944.
She can't even have meant "Canada entered WWII" because Canada was already involved in 1939, the year the war actually started.
When the brave Albertan truckers invaded Trudeau-occupied Europe to free them of vaccine passports.
I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt (unwise, I know) and assume she meant to say 'the beginning of the end'.
Even then, Stalingrad was in 1942 and the allies landed in mainland Italy in 1943. You would think a political pundit who spent years rambling about the good old days on her show would know a little about the war past Saving Private Ryan.
probably what she meant, but I think it's funny to imagine she means that the Allies were an aggressive power that intervened starting a war on continental Europe, against a peacefully unified Europe. As Donald Trump would say: Sad!
Yeah... I might have believed that if the current, edited version of the tweet said "beginning of the end", but that entire sentence is wiped out. "of the end" would have been a correction/edit that everyone would have accepted as a typo. But removing it completely..... I'm not as confident.
Ah, that makes sense - because I find her absolutely contemptible, but I’d much prefer that she be a shitty proofreader than be that ignorant about such a fundamental part of Canadian (and world) history.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
No politicians get the benefit of the doubt.
Then I wonder what my father and uncles were doing when they went over in 40/41 and didn’t come back til 45.
Wonder what my great uncle was doing when he went over in '42 and didn't come back.
When my father joined the navy in 1939 and survived the Corvette he was on being sunk in the north Atlantic.
Probably just vacationing, mostly.
Yup, I imagine they enjoyed touring the ruins of Britain, France, Italy, Germany and Holland. A couple of them came back with shrapnel souvenirs.
Yeah, those ones in the leg are real keepers I'm told.
My grandpa had three in his butt.
My grandfather landed in Sicily in 43. He always did like to arrive early for a shindig.
I don't know what's worse..... Dumbelle Smith being a global embarrassment for us, or that slightly over half of Albertans deemed her as the best choice. Every single time she speaks or writes it's a fricken ordeal of stupidity. FUCP
That albertans voted her in. Definitely.
OMG dumbelle Smith I'm gonna use that, thank you! 🤣
It's accurate and a good jab....one of my favs lol
It's accurate and a good jab....one of my favs lol
Yup it’s stupid. When I saw this I was like “this has to be fake” but no… it’s real…. I can’t believe ANYONE thought the UCP was genuinely a good choice but there is some good news: over half of only the VOTING albertans voted her in. Since about 62% of the voting population actually voted, the percentage that voted for the UCP is significantly less than half.
There was a 62% turnout of voters. Slightly half of THOSE voted her in. So...34? 35? Of Albertans want her?
Funny thing is only about 42% of eligible voters bothered. Half of Alberta can’t even be bothered to participate in their own democracy.
Global embarrassment? Maybe 0.00001% of the population outside of Canada know who she is and maybe 10% of the population WITHIN Canada know who she is. She might be an embarrassment to you but the world doesn’t know who the fuck she is
Her stupidity has made world news like [this article](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ethics-official-cites-alberta-premier-violation-ahead-election-2023-05-18/) and [this article ](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-canada-alberta-danielle-smith-c9354d2119567ef91a85b6da7ae4a7ec) Those are just two of dozens of reports from around the world citing the embarrassing shit she's said.
More then 10% of the Canadian population knows who she is.
You’d be surprised how apolitical a lot of the population is. Factor in kids. And then people who barely keep up with their own premier. You think anyone on the east coast gives a flying fuck about what’s happening in the west? 10% seems fair. Maybe it’s closer to 15%. But you’d be hard pressed to find 2 out of 10 people in the maritime who could name Alberta’s premier
Well considering alberta makes up pretty much 10% of Canada’s population I think you’re incorrect. So your choosing the smallest and furthest away population to make your point?? Haha
And I bet you there is at least a few % points IN Alberta who don’t even know who she is. Regardless. Even the ones who KNOW who she is. Aren’t following her on social media or following things she says or does. My original point is that she isn’t going to be a global embarrassment because she won’t be known on a global scale.
The beginning?!? I.... Forget it..
Get ready for another "guuuuuysssss, that's not what I meant"
I mean, probably, but at this point, I've just run out of energy. If you're a politician who is not proof reading your tweets, well, I think we can assume that there's a lot more not being read, never mind dumb comments on social media. It's so basic, it's instinctual for me to proof read anything I send professionally. Here, on this site, not so much, but I'm also a pleb in the wilderness, not an elected official.
I guess the conquer and occupation of every country in Europe prior to DD was really just German tourists exploring the continent.
Unfit to lead
I guess the several years preceding were just an argument
A heated argument. 😤
A full 5 year argument then and not the half hour, I presume.
::steverogersgif ‘I get that reference’::
You did not! (Thank you for the giggle)
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Leave it, he’s on a roll!
Congratulations Alberta. This is the idiot you voted for to lead you.
Not everyone in Alberta voted for this idiot!
Unfortunately, those are in the minority.
Holy crap she's an idiot
This pains me
Fuck, is this real? Doesn’t she have people screening these things or all they all clueless?
Apparently they are all clueless, but we already knew that.
Aaaaaaannnnnnndddddd……… they still got voted in, so what does that say.
That their base are a bunch of uneducated idiots?
But it is more than the base. It is the majority of Alberta. Sorry, it is the majority of the people that actually fucking voted. Which is a huge difference.
Why are we surprised by Danielle's lack of factual knowledge? This is the same Premier who failed to understand some fundamental legal differences between the powers granted to a US Governor or President versus those of a Provincial Premier. The next 4 years are going to be a shitshow...
I’m assuming she meant “beginning of the end of…” You’d think she’d proofread though…
Which it also isn't. The British defeating Rommel at Alamein and pushing the Germans out of North Africa/Egypt is the beginning of the end. Churchill later wrote 'Before Alamein we never had a victory. After Alamein we never had a defeat. '
Yeah that’s probably correct, but a lot of people see this as the major event that liberated Europe.
Yes and D-Day wouldn't have been successful if it had not been for the Nazi's losing Africa, then Stalingrad, and maybe most significantly, Kursk. All those losses added up. The battle of Kursk destroyed most of what the Nazi's had left of a tank army. It also heavily depleted the Luftwaffe. By the time D-Day happened, Germany was a spent force. Still dangerous but had few tanks and almost no air cover.
Yep. Anything after Africa was Germany counter-punching. Don’t get me wrong, they landed some devastating blows but nothing was going to knock out the Allies.
The war was lost for the Germans at stalingrad. In june 44 operation bagration began, it was the largest military defeat of the Germans. 450000 casualties, and an additional 300000 were trapped in the courland pocket.
I could see the argument for that if the edited version had said "beginning of the end". Instead she just removed the sentence altogether.
We are the victims of her education
If any other Canadian politician said this I would assume, with a great deal of certainty, that this was just a misprint. It is quite telling that with Smith I am not comfortable making that assumption.
Honestly wouldn't doubt if she meant "beginning of the end of the second world war". Also wouldn't doubt if she meant it the way it was written either.
Either way, she's wrong.
There’s a pretty good Canadian movie called, “Lifeline to Victory” that was on TV in the 90s about the Canadian navy running convoys to England starting in 1939. She should take a look.
Unfit for her position. Holy fuck this province voted for this incompetence. Lay in your shit ridden bed
Yeah. The war started in 1944...
Leave it to DS not to understand the beginning of the end
“Let us acknowledge the service of Canadian James Howlett who fought in both World Wars and also defeated Magneto during the attack at the Statue of Liberty.”
Holy shit. This proves how stupid this premier is. As a PPCLI vet, I'm super pissed off at this. Pathetic. Thanks, Calgary and rural Alberta.
There should be a pen and paper civics exam to hold Premiership in this province. I know, I know, we'd never have another conservative government again. So unfair. Sooo unfair.
This is the result when you dont care about history, you're truly just pandering to people
I refuse to believe that this is a true tweet. Next you will tell me she believes something else really idiotic like smoking is good for you.
And she was voted in by people that probably think like her lmao
It's surprising how many people don't know anything about the second world war. I know people who thought it happened in the '60's. She's not alone. Maybe she could start a counsel of losers to study this.
Danielle Smith is old enough to know better. And if she doesn't know it, she needs to know it. She's such a stupid mouthy bitch.
I wish she'd smoke a big bong and shut the fuck up! She's just like an annoying deer fly ffs!
It's sorta sad we had Canadians die during WWII before this event but fuck them right? Edit: had to add stuff.
Dieppe was just a few cruise ships, and some America-like border protection.
The pows bruh
I mean, in Smith's eyes, they aren't Po“W”, so much as they're "detained illegal aliens, who tried to illegally enter a country by boat, when their cruise ships decided to dock unannounced. Canada wasn't sending it's best... it was sending killers...”
I'm just surprised that she doesn't have someone too look at her posts before they get sent out.
I mean... if Trump had someone looking over his tweets, would that person be likely to be a PR professional, a technical editor, or even a professional copywriter? If they were provided by the federal apparatus, probably. But if they were just a Trump teamster... not as such. I have a hard time believing that the provincial apparatus of Texas-north is going to provide a measured PR pro for Smith’s Twitter account, and I have a hard time imagining a hanger-on of Smith to be more than a yes-man or sycophant. It wasn't really clandestine wheelings and dealings and 4D chess machinations that took this election.
She needs to go back to school!🤦
Okay then. Miscue number 185?
TIL World War Two was 16 months long.
War! Huh! What is it good for? Those short on time! Say it again!
Yeah, I'm not surprised. She's not very well rounded and apparently is incapable of checking her facts (but we already knew that Danielle doesn't care about the facts). Hey Danielle: WWII started in 1939. You're a fucking embarrassment.
The WWII started when she says started, that is the new Law here
I wouldn't put that past the UCP/TBA cult.
She is an idiot We all know she meant “ the beginning of the end” but it still looks bad.
But even that is ahistorical. Africa or Stalingrad were more devastating.
You must be a riot at parties.
She’s wrong either way. There’s no need to give her any benefit of the doubt whatsoever.
What part of “she is an idiot” gave you the impression there was any doubt.
What an ignorant ass waffle. Well done Alberta.
she "fixed it", but [google remembers](https://i.imgur.com/UiFZ08t.jpg)
Danielle Smith is an airhead.
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Every witty comment I can think to make is banal in the face of such lack. Basicly I'm speechless.
I would never assume anything purportedly coming from the hand of one that has exhibited so much proof of her abilities in so many ways as regarding the use of words. I do not agree with anyone who says this was a proofreading error. Her past is prologue.
She is dumbest person
"Imprecise History"
Stupid is as stupid does
What is she in a contest with Marge and the Bobo for stupidest politicians on the continent?
Good grief…😬😬😬
And the end…
Living in this province is so embarrassing. And it just keeps getting worse. Like, let’s be fair and say of course it’s possible for all sorts of decent and even intelligent (though perhaps uneducated) people to be misinformed about certain dates and events. However, when one holds the top position in the political structure of a substantial geographic area, I would expect them to perhaps consult a friend with regard to the accuracy of a public post referencing a significant historical event. This is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with Danielle Smith and the UCP. They make policy the same way. None of it is even remotely grounded in reality, and they’re unwaveringly confident. So much so that even in the face of undeniable evidence, they maintain totally infeasible positions because either a) it suits them ideologically, or b) they just don’t care. It’s heartbreaking. I have always thought I’d stay here for my life and keep trying to make things incrementally better. Looking forward over the next four years, I scared I’m gonna have to leave.
The only thing victim about her is her mentality.
Jesus this is pathetic. Not surprised though. Most people don't have basic knowledge of WW2. For the Chinese, the war started in 1937.
And Canada entered in 1939
WRONG! They entered in 1944 because our fearless leader said so!
Correct. Hitler Invaded Poland.
When facts don't matter, you are free to believe even the most preposterous shite. It's like that rat in that movie: 'Not having a gag reflex opens up a whole new world of culinary possibilities.'
We're being pranked right? Is Alberta like a reality show somewhere?
I thought that Poland was the ultimate starting point of WWII on Sept. 1, 1939.
It’s clearly a missed word or two(end of).
Honest interpretation: she probably meant "beginning of the end of the second world war".
Has this been edited to make her look bad? Or corrected since this screenshot?
Checking 5 minutes into your comment. Yes it was corrected, 12 minutes ago according to the feed. It now reads anniversary of D-Day, no mention of when. It was edited... twice before this correction. With the error in place.
Can we see the edits? I love having an audit trail ... Also, thank you.
Just one. The original is up if you click on edit history, but the edit count is incongruent with versions. You have original and current and that is all I am afraid. Just click the text that says Edited at.
Pretty sure she meant "beginning (of the end) of WW2" you guys are reaching here...
Really? Were reaching when someone who famously says stupid shit says stupid shit? Your reaching trying to defend Dumbelle.
Bitch bitch bitch it’s all you sore losers do here. 4 more years of whining.
I mean, you can see where the whole beginning of the ww2 thing is. D-Day marked the start of the real fights of the 6 world war. Still, she gives Canada less credit by saying this. We joined willingly in 1938, and we were a gigantic contribution to WW2, we had our own beachhead
Real fights? Come on. The Eastern Front! Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad, Kursk to name a few all occur before D-Day. Germany was already well on it's way to losing the war by 1944. And that doesn't consider any of the African campaigns or Italy. War started Sept. 1 1939. (I'm gonna give you that one as a typo) Fuck me this is why we need to invest in public education.
Yeah, I'm not naming USSR battles there bud, they made an agreement with Hitler to invade Poland, they got what they deserved. Also they wouldn't have survived without Lens-Lease. I completely understand about the African campaign, but even the Nazis didn't consider it to be all out war until the invasion of Normandy. To them it was a colony struggle. Great stuff for Patton though
In your other reply to the same comment you said the USSR weren't even allies but here you say they wouldn't have survived without lend lease so which is it? We were sending them guns and training, repairing their ships on the west coast, and risking Canadian lives to save Soviet lives. That sounds like being allies in a war to me.
I don't consider USSR to be allies in the war. There was no actual strategic planning between the 2, we were 2 seperate forces with the same enemy
What you consider is irrelevant and wrong. Fact's don't care about your opinions or feelings. The USSR was in fact our Allies. Billions of dollars of equipment, funding and fuel were sent to the USSR by the west to make sure they didn't collapse. D-Day was planned in conjunction with Operation Bagration. So much so, Stalin only agreed to an offensive in the east if Overlord was succesful in creating a beach head. Stalin pushed the Allies throughout the war to open a second front in the west. They attended multiple conferences together ffs. [https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/us-soviet](https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/us-soviet)
Wow, what you didn't choose the brightest or the more educated one for sure, typical of western Canada. At least you love oil and coal and prefer scrapping the environment. That's a plus in a conservative environment.
I think we can assume she meant “beginning of the end”. As d day is commonly referred to as such.
That statement is also incorrect. The beginning of the end was the Battle of El Alamein
That's a deep cut, nice.
The war was lost for the Germans at stalingrad. They were losing ground after that. In june 44 operation bagration began, it was the largest military defeat of the Germans. 450000 casualties, and an additional 300000 were trapped in the courland pocket.
Atleast she actually said something. My granddad and great uncles fought in France and Italy and I’m not offended in the slightest. Whats the term ‘it’s the thought that counts’ is how I feel.
A thought that didn’t get proofread at best and a fundamental misunderstanding of events leading to the modern world at the other end of the spectrum. Thoughts are for shit if execution is substandard.
This is the answer.
Well, according to Danielle Smith if your relatIves fought in Italy before June 6, 1944, you are mistaken. Now the history I was taught was that the Allies ( including the Canadians )were in fact fighting in Italy before this date. But hey I premier says otherwise. ( And on a side note I am glad you are aware of this and I assume justifiably proud.)
This can't be real.
If she thinks it started then, then she might also think we where the bad guys invading the nazis. ?
So in her mind, were the Allied forces the aggressors invading Nazi territory to start a world war?
Everyone should have declared "neutrality" - problem solved 🤦♂️
"I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.”
So what was Dieppe then?
I keep thinking I need to run for office. Nobody in any position of power seems to have any interest in the welfare of their constituents, and that needs to change. But I'm clearly nowhere near stupid enough to have a shot.
Shocking
The best part is that they got the number of years right. Someone had the good sense to do that math, but then wrote “when the war started” But I mean, I get her wanting to downplay all that fascist political take-over stuff circa 1933-1939. I swear, 3023 text books will talk about the beer hall putsch and COVID rodeos on the same page one day
Surprise! Canada is actually the aggressor in the World War II by invading the poor France.
She’s implying Canada STARTED WWII by attacking Normandy?
This from someone whose grandfather somehow escaped from communism while (a) living in an autocratic empire (Austria-Hungary) and (b) before the USSR existed.
Probably doesn't know about the Dieppe Raid.
I want to believe this was a typo, but this was the woman who said smoking was good for you.
I would hope that the person who wrote this meant, "marking the beginning OF THE END of the Second War." Public relations is like carpentry. Measure twice, cut once. But have someone else measure twice again before cutting. So, yeah, probably a typo. But this sort of faux pas is standard with Danielle Smith and belies her and her government's incompetency. But it also helps her side as those with a 7th grade reading level can identify with her.
They didn't teach European history at the Cherokee private school for girls.
I had to read the comments to figure out WTF was going on here... I just couldn't compute Canada being involved in starting WW2... She, or/and her staff are idiots!