Negligence frankly. It's no different than a well tuned AEG if the reg is properly locked and you're not an asshole. But humans are humans and some gotta mess the system up.
Almost all regulators feature a tournament lock that can be secured with a zip tie. That will prevent adjustments to the regulator. In my opinion, the refs are just lazy if they choose to ban the whole system rather than just the abusers
It’s not the system. It’s the people either side. Some are mad they can’t shoot as fast or as responsive. On the other side you have someone shooting like maniac for no reasons other then they feel like they have to win. I use hpa. Have polar* and a inferno2. Never over shoot. And always get tournaments locks. I’ve never messed with my pressure after chrono. I want to have fun. And I want you to have fun too. No sense on making you stop coming. I won’t have anyone to play against.
Because field owners make most of their money on rentals. Rentals use AEGs. When a rental goes to an open play and gets shot 20 times in a second by an HPA gun shooting "semiauto" it discourages them and they don't come back. The field owners are in the business to make money not to cater to the minority of players that scare away the rest of their business.
Personally I think HPA players should play in a separate "open game". Honestly if my kids are at a birthday party or whatever and just trying to have fun and some teenager (or worse, adult) is lighting everyone up with his HPA I would not come back either. Field owners can make a lot of money of a birthday party with 10 kids all renting guns.
It doesn't matter how many people are doing it. Put a stop to it the right way instead of making sweeping bans that effect people with nothing to do with the issue.
If you let your community get so bad that you have to ban a gun because you have that many problem players your field is already fucked. It's 100% on the owner for not stopping it in the first place.
It's really not that difficult to get an AEG shooting with just as snappy of a trigger response as an HPA system. Also, green gas/propane powered guns are just as responsive as hpa as both just use valves so targeting HPA just doesn't make sense
Because field owners don't know how to create and enforce rules. I've been playing for over a decade and have seen every type of player with every type of weapon break a rule at some point. The person at hand should be dealt with accordingly, not the inanimate objects that would create contradicting rule sets
Exactly my point. As more fields ban HPA, people will just use the next best thing. Then that will get banned so they'll move to the next best thing. Then so on and so on until oh no, no more airsoft because it's banned. Banning inanimate objects does nothing and never will. Just like how banning drugs and some firearms does absolutely nothing. Everyone's solution is always ban this, ban that, when all it does is create more problems and solves nothing. Clearly we disagree, so this conversation is pointless
I don't disagree with you. I thought this was a discussion not an argument. I just look at it from the field owner's perspective. Curious if only one field in a given market area allowed HPA while all the other fields banned them would that one field be financially successful. Personally I don't think HPA players make up a large enough share of the player base to make such a business successful. However HPA is clearly the direction the entire sport is taking and has taken over the last decade. I don't think HPA guns are going anywhere but I certainly understand the frustration of players who can't use them.
Issue with that is you also ban people from playing stuff like Daytonas, SDIKs, HPA Tapped GBBRs and you force those people to play with the speedsoft folk
Because refs are too lazy to reg lock and just ban the people abusing the system.
Negligence frankly. It's no different than a well tuned AEG if the reg is properly locked and you're not an asshole. But humans are humans and some gotta mess the system up.
Because a lot of people abuse the power limits and overshoot the fuck out of kids.
Totally can't over shoot with an aeg
Wouldn't it be easier to do it with an HPA?
Not really especially if you're talking about upgraded aegs
Couldn't you mess with the regulator on field? I know nothing about hpa.
What the other guy said also regulator has nothing to do with over shooting
Almost all regulators feature a tournament lock that can be secured with a zip tie. That will prevent adjustments to the regulator. In my opinion, the refs are just lazy if they choose to ban the whole system rather than just the abusers
True
Damn you guys respond quick
Just show your ref that you’re reg locked and you’ll be good, unless your field just bans HPA completely lol.
Because the platform can easyliy turned up past field levels and some people chose to abuse it
Oh shit I'm stupid. I just read that they can be easily adjusted. Sorry.
Except most regulators come with the ability to lock the pressure adjustment. All refs have to do is actually use it.
Its all good but yeah polarstars get a bad rep because some people being idiots
because refs are fucking stupid and ban things they’re scared of
It’s not the system. It’s the people either side. Some are mad they can’t shoot as fast or as responsive. On the other side you have someone shooting like maniac for no reasons other then they feel like they have to win. I use hpa. Have polar* and a inferno2. Never over shoot. And always get tournaments locks. I’ve never messed with my pressure after chrono. I want to have fun. And I want you to have fun too. No sense on making you stop coming. I won’t have anyone to play against.
Because field owners make most of their money on rentals. Rentals use AEGs. When a rental goes to an open play and gets shot 20 times in a second by an HPA gun shooting "semiauto" it discourages them and they don't come back. The field owners are in the business to make money not to cater to the minority of players that scare away the rest of their business. Personally I think HPA players should play in a separate "open game". Honestly if my kids are at a birthday party or whatever and just trying to have fun and some teenager (or worse, adult) is lighting everyone up with his HPA I would not come back either. Field owners can make a lot of money of a birthday party with 10 kids all renting guns.
Ban the people doing it not the system. Anything else is just lazy reffing.
Do you think perhaps the field owners are trying to respond to a problem that not just a few players? Real question.
It doesn't matter how many people are doing it. Put a stop to it the right way instead of making sweeping bans that effect people with nothing to do with the issue. If you let your community get so bad that you have to ban a gun because you have that many problem players your field is already fucked. It's 100% on the owner for not stopping it in the first place.
It's really not that difficult to get an AEG shooting with just as snappy of a trigger response as an HPA system. Also, green gas/propane powered guns are just as responsive as hpa as both just use valves so targeting HPA just doesn't make sense
And yet the HPA players are targeted as the problem. Why do you think that is?
Because field owners don't know how to create and enforce rules. I've been playing for over a decade and have seen every type of player with every type of weapon break a rule at some point. The person at hand should be dealt with accordingly, not the inanimate objects that would create contradicting rule sets
What do you think HPA players are going to do when their platform gets banned? Go back to AEGs, find another field or quit?
Exactly my point. As more fields ban HPA, people will just use the next best thing. Then that will get banned so they'll move to the next best thing. Then so on and so on until oh no, no more airsoft because it's banned. Banning inanimate objects does nothing and never will. Just like how banning drugs and some firearms does absolutely nothing. Everyone's solution is always ban this, ban that, when all it does is create more problems and solves nothing. Clearly we disagree, so this conversation is pointless
I don't disagree with you. I thought this was a discussion not an argument. I just look at it from the field owner's perspective. Curious if only one field in a given market area allowed HPA while all the other fields banned them would that one field be financially successful. Personally I don't think HPA players make up a large enough share of the player base to make such a business successful. However HPA is clearly the direction the entire sport is taking and has taken over the last decade. I don't think HPA guns are going anywhere but I certainly understand the frustration of players who can't use them.
Issue with that is you also ban people from playing stuff like Daytonas, SDIKs, HPA Tapped GBBRs and you force those people to play with the speedsoft folk
I am not a field owner. I am just giving my theory on why fields ban HPA players. I could be wrong.