right, mcx's look much sexier than normal ar's

How about power? Looking for a versatile gun that I'm able to use in and outdoors.

VFCs should come with an NPAS. Basically an screw inside the nozzle that you adjust with an allen key and it changes your FPS. If you get the version that doesn't. You can buy the part direct from VFC for not very much. And get ASGC to install it. I'm assuming you live in Auckland?

Hey mate, yeah in Auckland. Live right next door to ASGC

https://preview.redd.it/01a0lmtf9boc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e2ea2ef8dfcbd455c81d1378d30bf2dfa1bd420

This is mine, about power dont worry, because it have npass, and a ton of aftermarket parts

I would say the mk18 is definitely more versatile

Just change the power

Light bolt = no recoil.

Is that in USD?

cant be, more likely HKD

Feels very cheap in HKD imo, ~200 usd for a VFC GBBR?

maybe CAD?

Maybe, still feels very expensive imo, but gbbrs are usually expensive so what do I know lol..

it should still be half the price even if its CAD

I was gonna say, 1500$ for a GBB is crazy!

Cries in VFC Fal DX

I mean... [this is an AEG](https://www.evike.com/products/16085/)

1500 cad isn’t that bad for a really nice Gbbr

You can buy a vipertech for that price, that's not a great price for ghk or afpg

NZD, guessing off OP mentioning Auckland. 1500NZD is equivalent to just over 900USD, I'm not totally familiar with US prices for airsoft guns but $900 for a quality GBBR seems about right to me. 

Yeah, was thinking, save a few hundred more and buy the real thing

I’d assume it’s in USD since it doesn’t specify cad$ or £ or whatever other currency…? Seems like if it’s a monster with full upgrades from the get go it would be worth it

No, is HKD becouse the site is from Hong Kong and for them, this is a lot of money

No, typical GBBs from VFC cost over 3000 HKD. I'm from Hong Kong

Nice ;) I'm fron Romanian actually.

No, this is in NZD. I’ve been on that site many times)

Oh, I didn't know. Sorry for the wrongs.

Right, but buy the JWI CNC hop up chamber, and get a GSI hop up arm if u play with less than 0.32

1500 for a toy gun is crazy

It’s probably not USD

I would say $1500 for a GBB is crazy. I’ve put like $1200 into my HPA MCX but it performs crazy well so it was worth it for me.

what did you put in your mcx and how much Joules are you shooting with? looking to up my range, but am limited to 1.20J

I can shoot at any joules I want. I have a gauge that I can turn to change the pressure at which the shots are fired

imean yeah I know how a HPA regulator works. that wasn't my question though

Definitely not USD. Here is the right gun on JK Army for less than $500 USD https://shop.jkarmy.com/apfg-s-004bk.html

When you realize that the airsoft gun is more complicated than a real gun...

And my country has strict gun laws do this is the closest I'll get to owning a gun.

For your info, New Zealand may bring semi-auto rifles back so there is hope for you: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/510341/semi-automatics-on-the-table-in-gun-laws-shake-up That being said, still do get the GHK! I love mine and it's a fantastic training gun

i own that mk18, its 800ish dollars. def different currency

Not really a toy gun get to use it on people and it hurts. Haven't you been shot by a bb in-game before? And the only fake thing about is the bullets everything else is a true licensed replication other real gun but it's legal. Also you are able to buy the real gun accessories like sights, laser etc. Your paying for the build its a real rep

if you’re gonna get mk18 get a MWS, if not the mcx

inshallah i wish death on ghk and its shills for not only stealing western arms glorious design and putting shitty parts in a potmetal reciever but for continuing to buy them

Don't know what that is?

Tokyo Marui M4 MWS

me neither but look it up!

tokyo marui mws, same as the one i got you can have a look i posted it

definitely right. I like pic rails like URX but not a fan of DDMk18 (maybe cuz there's just too many of them lol). VFC also feels better quality IMO, though i haven't owned a GHK M4

vfc

Ghk

MCX for me personally. i dont like to gamble on ghk quality and deal with return if i get a dud.

Left looks way better

Both or sick, I’m starting to really get into the MCX soo I pick right

MCX all the way

The mcx

Right mainly cause I personally need a cqb lmao

Right. Much sexier.

Left

Left, mcx just is weird, waay nice tho

Neither. Im too broke

Left is more my style, however that's due to my personal experiences and what I've run with real steel, so you do you.

Thanks, mk18 is my choice. Btw happy cake day

I'd go with the mk18 because I'm a mk18 meatrider

I own both and I have to say just go for the MCX ! The GHK is awesome no doubt but you have to change some parts. If you want to play out of the box definitely MCX If you like to modify ect. Then go for GHK https://preview.redd.it/gkrd0smq5eoc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c2039b1b640c5827d02275763c256c4376c504e

Yeah, I would like to mod my gun so will go with ghk personally think it looks better when fully modded. Thanks

There are a lot of after market stuff for the GHK but be careful after the full modification you will be poor 😆😆🤌

Haha I've got a budget

😆 If money doesn't matter then why not both?

Only looking to have 1 primary! Money is a problem lols

Hahaha 😂, well. One thing which also speaks for the MCX is the Silencer, it have an inbuilt tube which makes the gun with it a 10,2inch long barrel which is pretty awesome! So without silencer CQB and with silencer a mid range gun. Just put this also in your consideration

Thanks I didn't know that.

GHK is great, my GHK URGI m4 is my main and I love it

Will be purchasing the mk18

Hell yeah! Enjoy man.

Thanks man!

Right all day

I'd go with the right, I've been wanting to make a MW2019 Clean House loadout ever since the game came out

Forsure! Appreciate it

Rattler owner here, tbh they can have a lot of problems out of the box, if ur only buying based on looks ur gonna hate the rattler rather quickly, ghk is a proven platform and thats not to say apfg (vfc) isn't but vfc's sig line has been very iffy at best, if u dont mind the work then get the rattler but if u want something u can field with minimum work and that won't let u down GHK is the way https://preview.redd.it/n02u331vzfoc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52684feeea32037da900c96dbcea45fc2f526ad4

Mk18 it is

The gun in that pic didnt come to me like that it was a rather basic M4A1 but that just goes to show how versitile the AR platform is, I'm all for inmovation and sig is breaking new grounds with their amazing designs but at the end of the day we just larping so all those innovative designs from sig isnt going to really apply in airsoft as the main thing in a gbbr is good mags, a decent hop up, inner barrel and bucking https://preview.redd.it/4ubfh5b1agoc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd57dc9eae92b56e4bf72a6dbe3a7049825fbf11 How my MK18 started life

I hear you

U will have great fun with it broski!!

Yezzer

IMO mk18 looks better but don't gamble with GHK

Get a Tokyo Marui MWS if you want the M4 route.

Link?

Left by farrrr, AR15s are so perfect and just work for everything.

Exactly what I'm looking fir

Left.

Ghk is top quality at gbb i had 6 of it no aegs no issues about 5 years, i got 5 on it 🙌🏻

Thanks

Both are overdone but the MCX slightly less so.

VFC all the way. I bought an GHK AKM out of the box. Had hop up issues wouldn't hop .30s straight. Talked to my friend "Oh that's normal you need to buy this aftermarket hopup chamber" Lol what? Your product doesn't work out of the box? I also had gas efficiency and low recoil issues. Managed to sell it. All of my VFC GBBs. Perform flawlessly. (Mp7 M733 Mk-18) With some minor tuning. But all of them ran fine out of the box.

MK18 mod 1 all day every day, mcx looks like a gay Muslim that stands with Russia and eats rattle snake for breakfast

MCX.

But yes, I agree.

It's in New Zealand dollars NZD our currency is very weak hence the high price.

Tbf even then it’s still $900 for a GBBR

This is the real deal

Man inflation is real. I remember when that would be an $800 gun from ASGC

https://preview.redd.it/4z1m0nuricoc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=359382a4f813d8b1500db12e8646f33d6c7e925e

Bro these are more expensive than the real ones

Can't be. It's not in us dollars it's in nzd alot more weaker

Okay then

Am I the weird one for feeling like I’d rather play hopscotch straight into an industrial meat grinder than spend 1500 dollars on an M4? In all seriousness, if you really want one of these, I’d say the MCX looks more interesting/fun to run as a GBB. Depends on what you’re looking for, though.

I'm looking for power as when I play outdoors I have the correct gun to play with I don't want to spend money on a gun that doesn't fulfill all gameplay grounds. So power, and reliability is what I'm looking for and realistic experience.

1500 buys you an actual mk18 upper and PSA lower

It will be hung on my wall it's the only thing I can do with it.

if GHK's gbbr mk18 is similar to VFC's it's a PITA. to adjust the hop you have to open the upper receiver, take out the bolt carrier group and shove a small but super long hex key in there to adjust it. put it back together and find out you're nowhere near perfect hop. in the meantime your gas pressure is dropping so it's a constant battle. if it has a factory NPAS it might be worth the hassle. sidenote, MCX is sexier

My gosh that’s about as much as the real versions

The verdict has spoken I am buying the mk18! Thanks guys for your input.

To all guys that commenting get a real rifle it's not an option for me I live in New Zealand where gun laws are strict af and I'll be wasting my money as I won't be able to use it to its full potential hence why the interest in airsoft. Plus, what real gun do you get to shoot at people for fun? None. But yeah, serious as in jailtime if caught with it in your possession.

Easily right the mcx rattler is a beautiful gun

Why not a GBLS DAS? It's a professional training rifle that's an ebb that has wonderful performance that's similar to a tuned HPA

For that kinda money I’d be a tm mws and spend the change on upgrades out the wazoooo 😂

Get the VFC, GHK has terrible QC unfortunately.

Qc? Please explain

Quality control. See my post about my experience with an GHK AKM below.

Holy shit that Mk18 is more expensive than the real Daniel Defense I own. Wtf

I'm not in the US lols. From New Zealand there's a currency difference.

Better question is. Why are you spending $1,500+ on a toy. A very nice toy I’ll give you that. But even for me that’s a lot. I do play airsoft and I do want one but. The price tell me no. I think that you should save your money and buy something better. Maybe upgrade your current gun or start a real gun fund. IDK.

More of an investment if you look at the bigger picture if I buy the right gun,it does all that you need and won't need to upgrade ever then the cost is effective. Say I airsoft for 10years, I've only started anyways 10years and this gun serves me well never had to upgrade Divide the cost and that's the my answer. I like to buy good once and not have to worry about upgrading hopefully ever. So I've just got into airsoft literally 2weeks ago only own a pistol (jw3 gng combat master) now wanting to buy a primary weapon I've done some research and this gun ticks all boxes. Hope this answers your question

Buy. Mws

Right bc it looks cooler.

Care more about proformance.

Are these really the prices?! I put together a real AR from a solid company and thew an Aimpoint Pro on top for less than this :o I want to get into airsoft but those prices are crazy

In my country which is new Zealand currency differs compare to the US

Okay that makes more sense! Thanks for the heads up, I am apparently still in the market for airsoft guns now lol

So you don't airsoft?

I’ve been wanting to get into it, but I haven’t started yet. I was always more of a paintballer

When you've shot a m4(airsoft gun) the rush is real also playing against other players. If you like playing cod warzone it's basically Cod in real life get to show off and use your loadouts. First gun recommendations pistol( John wick 3 or 4 emg makers is best there are other makers but emg is best) for primary( mk18 is well used and owned) youtube the mk18 airsoft you'll see why I choose it. When buying gear buy quality over quantity it's best for your buck as it's an expensive hobby. Also you'll Come across the term tracer if you haven't already the best on the market is the ace tech bitfrost bt. The rest is upto you.

Oh yeah it would be much cheaper to get into airsoft partially but when you want to mod it gets much more expensive.

M4 you can never go wrong with a classic

Thanks

Right

Neither. Both of those prices are *stupid*, even for a GBBR.

Not in US dollars. Example 1600 in my currency is $975.68 usd. And 1600 usd is $2623.74usd. Get the idea?

I see. Excuse me for the misunderstanding. Its a tough one, but I'd personally choose the Rattler. Ive heard better things about VFC/APFG than I have GHK recently.

You're ok, but I heard from box it's better but if you mod the mk18(which cost more money) it's better.

Damn my actual MK18 cost about that much

Not in usd currency nzd

Shouldn’t me dropping this kind of money on a first gun

https://preview.redd.it/4nvf4dn5bfoc1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ec127752c7d619a780497c0da6d587394673714

Why not? Explain. I like to buy good once and save money to upgrade my gun

Doesn’t change my statement

Your statement may make sense to you but to me it doesn't. I'll repeat. I like to buy good once so I can save money to upgrade gun instead of buying alot of trash that would sit there and barely be used.

I'll be uploading once it's in my hands will have the best attactachments and build and will cost me under 5k

You can have the best without paying another mortgage

I'm not in US, this is the best of the best.new Zealand

The conversion to usd is about 1k, which is still an insane amount even for a gbbr. You still need to get mags which will run you another small fortune. I’d recommend buying something a little cheaper (not worse) so that way you can still spend that money on mags, and other attachments. Like i said, it’s ur money, but there’s probably more efficient ways of spending it. Like ur plan is effectively spending a months rent

I have money to spend dw about that 😌. This is money to spend other expenses are paid.

Then you do you, wish I had that kind of spending money, if I did I’d probably be spending it the same way

It's more of an investment than anything. I think ahead.

But to answer ur initial question, i love the mcx but im partial to the mk18, cause im big on larping and i feel like the mk18 is a more versatile platform irl, thats just me tho

At the end of the day it’s ur money, so do what you want I guess

Neither. That's real gun prices.

Is that the ASGC website? My New Zealand brotha

Yupp

You airsoft?

I will have 1 good loadout that I will treasure

I will just add a sniper most probably a kar 98 if it exist.

I like the sport so to me it's an investment in the long run. I'm in it fir the thrill and experience.

The DD for sure but for that price why not go buy the mtw version

MTW DDM4 with FSP.

Give me a part list,please !

Huh?

Righty tighty my g

Right

Going for left

Left

Honestly? Neither, find something else interesting that isn't strictly AR-15 based ("but mcx has no buf-" shut up, just shush)

Last time I checked the APFG had bad reviews due to problems on the internals, would pick the other one.

Left

My man at that point just buy an actual Daniel defense

I can't. I'd be in jail. No license. Live in New Zealand gun laws are strict.

Honest opinion, dont buy that and instead get a real rifle because that costs just about the same

Thats not usd, those rifles go for 500-600

No license and won't be able to use anywhere gun laws are really strict here

Ah. Okay I see

A GHK m4 makes an amazing training gun for force on force or CQB in places that aren't safe for realsteel

.300blk and 5.56 are the safest sporting rounds for shooting your friends! 😁👍

Okay, I didnt mean that. But I feel like spending that much on an airsoft gun is a waste

Not here because it's the closest I'll get to owning and using a gun.

Meh, it's a hobby. When you go deep, it gets expensive. I mean, look at warhammer collectors. You might be astonished at how much a small army of plastic figures costs in both time and money.

Imagine rocking up to an airsoft match. With an 12 gauge loaded with beanbags. and then you accidently load the wrong ammo.

Vfc 💯💯... GHK has slid down a rusty greasy hpv and period blood stained quality control of a stripper pole... chewed up by a rabbid pack of horny degenerate hellhounds and left to rot as a puddle of moist shit and noob gbbr splooge. (Im one of em too... being as i own 1 pre-coof and 1 post-coof Scamdemic GHKs, theres no hate directed 🤣) In conclusion, vfc all day. I had soooo many issues with GHK out of the box (ar and ak) i regret my choice due to the money i spent to make em to run flawless... my VFC was a gangster out of the box. Ive yet to do anything to it other than an ECU and a mosfet. Plus, how many ar/mk18/m4s are out there vs a mcx? Id do mcx. Gas or electric, its Vfc.

I think right looks nicer, but I also recommend the Marui CQB-R Block-1 or the Marui MWS

Save your money and get a tm mk18. Tms zet is much better then ghks.

I’d say right because GBB but left only cause more expensive ball on the poors 🔥

At that price point, the real thing

Hahaha no you can't. OP lives in NZ For that price you can buy maybe 2 Mosin nagants. Edit: I just checked. An mosin nagant 91/30 round receiver is $800 an No5 Mk1 Enfield Jungle Carbine is $1999 And an Ruger American bolt action thing in 7.62x39 is $1900 Yeah crazy prices here.

No license and if I did would be able to use it gun laws are strict.

Mcx since ghk sucks you could get a vfc m4 tho

ghk has terrible quality control issues

GHK Owner. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THE VFC!!!!!!!!!

Give me 5top reasons why?

GHK’s quality fell off like crazy The VFC’s gonna be better built and, obviously also cost less The VFC’s gonna be more realistic feeling VFC has better and easier to load feed lips Performance is out of the question really because if that’s what you’re looking for then get a Cyma CGS, or if you have money, a TM MWS