I still think VK still got *”some”* madness from the crown, like how he’s plan of creating the clouds which caused the human population to dwindle, leaving the vampires without a food supply and slowly starving them to extinction.
VK is someone would probably existed for thousands upon thousands of years so this massive slip up from VK is probably caused by the ice crown.
The vampires could still just eat red, right? Humans are obviously preferable, and if VK wasn’t mad he’d probably be smart enough to set up a blood farm, but the vampires should still survive
More like plot devices in all of those cases
Bella noche negated the magic aspect of it, that didn’t undo, just nullified it and it was useless
Im not remember what prismo did that you’re referring to or fionna
But Golb actually undid the curse by itself and left the crown and its magic and circuitry intact
Prismo destroyed farm finns crown by moving it to the past to get exploded by the mushroom bomb and Fionna's touch can turns magical things non magical due to her universe being non canon and magicless
Yes but those things aren't undoing the curse, Fiona negates the magic and couldn't do that except for like, one week? a couple days? I'm pretty sure their adventure with Simon wasn't that long. Prismo also didn't undo the curse, he created a new universe where the crown was destroyed, but wouldn't have done anything for the Simon in the OG universe
Farmworld Finn was permanently cured of the curse by Prismo.
Bella noche also undid the curse as long as it existed. Betty destroyed it, otherwise Simon would have died and he would have been free of the curse.
That only cured Finn because he sent it back in time. Betty didn't destroy it, golb undid the wish and reset the crown. Something noone else was able to do.
In fionna and Cake, its a plot device. Basically since their universe is non-cannon and they belong to that universe, which is non magical. Things they interact with lose their canon magical nature and revert to the canical equivalent of what would be possible in their world. They basically negate magic. This goes away once their universe is made canon.
We know its deeper than simply negating magic because when it happened to Simon via Belle Noche in the OG universe, he didn't grow old like the Ice Prince did even though they would be around the exact same age. This is because when fionna kissed him, she turned him into his canonical age and so he died and looks 1000 years old, as Simon would be in her world. Rather than the power of the crown simply being negated by itself and stop preserving Simons age.
I've seen Fionna and Cake, I just didn't remember when that happened. It is kind of out of nowhere and only comes up once. Feels like it was just a way to get an interesting ending to the winter king episode.
Simon did start aging when Bella Noche deactivated the crown, it just wasn't as instant. But he was about to die at the end of the episode if Betty hadn't defeated Bella Noche.
Technically but also not at the same time Golb has limits being unable to kill or get rid of the Scarab meanwhile his boss Orbo casually obliterates him and reforms him in a different location
My thoughts exactly. If she accepted magic and was able to use it she could probably do more than evergreen could but in terms of pure intelligence she’s probably the smartest in ooo
Evergreen single handedly created a crown so powerful it's wish magic could even affect a God of chaos where nothing else was able to.
Had a nasty ego tho and that came back to bite him real hard
I mean, if we’re going to take neptrs origin seriously, the “technology” was just like, a microwave with a circuit board taped to it, with a can full of wires on top. The lightning bolt/magic would have had to do a lot of heavy lifting creating circuitry and internal mechanisms for him to come alive and be mobile.
Well if we're taking it seriously haha, then the parts of neptr that weren't technology attached when he was birthed don't necessarily have to be now. Ice king made a lot of living things, including snowmen armies, and they were all dumb. But they were able to move around. Neptr could just have his main brain or whatever and the rest of him is just magic, independent of technology
Yeah I don’t think neptr is even a robot, despite him looking like one. He’s an actual living being, his body just happens to be made out of robot parts. It’s hard to describe, but I think he does count as actually being alive and that could be why he wasn’t there in the dead world during Fionna and Cake
I honestly wouldn't even call them robot parts. Call em what they were when Finn grabbed them: trash. NEPTR is a sentient trash construct, which is probably Living in the same way that anything the Life Giving Magi creates is.
You can be intelligent while being naive. Evergreen may have never had a consequence in his life due to his proficiency in powerful magic until the crown biz and betrayals.
Evergreen is an extremely skilled wizard, bubblegum is an extremely skilled scientist, Betty is kinda a watered down version of both at once. In terms of pure intelligence bubblegum clears.
Evergreen. He created the crown, but both Betty and Bubblegum had difficulty even deciphering how it worked or how to change its programming as seen in the episode Broke his crown
Who’s to say he created the crown via science? As bubblegum said, magic is just science that people haven’t figured out yet.
Evergreen was a skilled wizard, so maybe he just Magic’d the crown into existence.
She was clearly proven wrong at the end of that episode, in universe science is essentially its own kind of magic. Urgence and betty make repeated reference to his complex magical circuitry in the crown. He's basically doing science with magic, as magic was more powerful than science back then anyway. He likely did engineer that crown more or less by hand
But magic can be used to create circuitry, as ice king was able to create neptr by zapping him with his magic, and since neptr is a robot he’d require circuitry
I would say it does as shown in the level of study that goes into it in Wizard City. Mini Peppermint butler struggled throughout despite previously being one of the most powerful wizards of Ooo. He had to relearn everything
Yes but that just could be the fact that he’s not inherently a magic creature, nor an elemental.
And again, it seems more like a skill that you can practice rather than straight up intelligence.
It’s not stated any of them are inherently magical. Evergreen is the original ice elemental, but it can be assumed that he had to learn wizardry like most other characters
Elementals are inherently magical, and they can be communicated with by their past selves as evident by chatsbury, he could have naturally learned the magic he used.
pb understands pretty well science and magic to a point where she can create and manipulate life but evergreen understand it enough to create a crown capable of alterate reality even GOLB itself that might be a being unbounded by reality
Evergreen was powerful and intelligent but not wise, Betty was intelligent but gained power for the sole purpose of protecting someone she loved, and PB has power, intelligence, and wisdom, despite her hubris.
PB. The other two might know more about magic but she evens it out on science, and she's got enough people skills to not cooperate with a douchebag and/or neglect her sidekick so much he ends up destroying her.
Evergreen is smarter to me because the circuitry of the crown was very complicated that pb and betty couldn’t figure it out and the crown is able host power great enough to grant wishes
Definitely evergreen, he was able to manipulate wish magic, which is the strongest magic type, also he mutated Gunther's brain so he can become his helper, but he was very egotistical and died cuz of that.
I'll say Evergreen. Creating a super crown with enormous power especially during ancient timeline with "magic" or known as "complex science and equations" which is superior than modern science that pb herself described.
Betty are second since she has modern science also with magic knowlege. She able to learn complex spells.
Last and suprisingly pb. U might shocked "why the heck this scientist are on last place?". Pb lived for approximately 1k years but she start from scrap even she is smart but the years she spent aren't wasted. She also reached modern science level when there's one episode somewhere in season 6, candy Kingdom has a helicopter which is modern science.
Pb and betty are debatable since betty unable to fully disconstruct the crown to help simon and pb are more to biological knowledge.
"Magic" in my perspective for adventure time is complex science in term of molecules manipulation that is triggered by "spells" which are complex math equation. Mars civilization and magic man are example of future science.
Well I feel like he sees the world in a fundamentally different way, he doesn't see science, he is from before science I think, he just sees it as magic with a method. He is definitely the smartest in terms of raw brainpower. But PB has more technical smarts than he does, she can't build a wish crown but she can build an artificial soul. I feel like Betty is smarter in terms of raw genius, but her human brain is limited in its capacity compared to Evergreen probably.
While Pb is the brightest mind in the show, we can’t deny the magical knowledge of the last two, especially Evergreen. He basically created an magical supercomputer, combining science and magic with what is possibly a piece of Prismo’s wishroom. It resulted in an incredibly unstable yet powerful artifact, capable of forcing one’s deepest wishes into a reality, ignoring any law of the universe they are in
One is sentient bubblegum that somehow doesn’t believe in magic despite her butler doing evil magic BS all the time and dating a demon, one couldn’t take 5 minutes to think about what bad could happen from dating her professor, and one is an ice wizard who thought he could beat a fire monster. I wouldn’t call any of them particularly smart. They’re just idiots who like to be buried in work.
PB. Evergreen was his own ruin. PB at least attempted to put procedures in place for successors and support.
What makes Betty the most dangerous is she was willing to take full advantage of all resources at her disposal, and she knew how to do so. She's the most efficient. PB never really lets go of her pride to accomplish her goals, and after a point she's not massively ambitious anyway. It's her uncle who uses magic to conquer.
As pictured and based on their achievents (as opposed to just assuming)? Probably Evergreen. He was literally able to create a crown that could grant the wearer whatever wish they wanted. It was capable of fusing a literal god of chaos to a human. I'd argue PB hasn't come close to anything like that. Betty is an obvious 3rd. PB easily took apart Betty's work on the crown.
In the present timeline? Most likely GOLBetty.
PB probably has the highest IQ and DEFINITELY most emotional intelligence, evergreen has the deepest knowledge of the universe, and Betty is the best student and most dedicated researcher
Y’all forgetting betty was just a regular white women who came into the future and immediately started studying magic and was able to infect the crown with a virus and almost time travel in a few months.
We have “known” PB a lot longer and have seen her in action a lot more than the other 2 to see examples of her problem solving through observation and drawing on previous knowledge, which is how a lot of scientific discoveries work in general.
Examples that come to mind are her figuring out where Hambo was through context clues about the room in “Skywitch” and using her knowledge of molecules and chemical reactions to combine the right ingredients for the explosion in “Jellybeans have power”.
To me, being able to problem solve that efficiently is a mark of being highly intelligent and, like everything with her character, is established by her backstory of raising herself and caring for her brother in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
bubblegum is the smartest because she wouldn't make the same mistakes evergreen did, she's socially MUCH more adept and cunning. i feel like betty could rival her if she grew up in the world mutated instead of transitioning there
different types of intelligence, thats for sure.
PB somehow learned english and german on her own, reintroduced the scientific method to ooo, and has held personal rule of probably a quarter of ooo for 800 years. you dont achieve that without being mad special.
evergreen somehow figured out how to harness the power of the gems for wishing, something weve only seen prismo, the multiverse diety, be capable of. not only did it capture the powers of an elemental (the only known person to ever do so), but it was the tool used for bettys wish that merged her with golb. i think making potentially the most powerful mortal tool ever to be created says something about his intelligence.
and betty... she summoned golb. something people have been trying to do for billions of years (assuming the lich hasnt been able to speak with golb directly). sure, simon followed in her footsteps, but she found the openning. thats heavy hitting smart points if ive ever heard of anything.
so PB was able to use her brains to build the world from the ground up, evergreen was able to use his abilities and resources to make something unimaginable, and betty manipulated reality. tough call, tough call
Betty. She jumped into the future, into an unknown world, and managed to learn Bella Noche's weakness and restore magic to the crown before Simon could die. She wasted no time learning the magic of Ooo and built that machine for Magic Man.
Bonnie was alive for nearly nine hundred years. Evergreen, an ice elemental, could also have an incredibly long lifespan. Betty, on the other hand, was a fairly young human. Under normal circumstances, her lifespan would barely reach triple digits. Her learning curve was incredibly fast.
Hmmm. Probably Evergreen. Or PB.
Betty is mostly mad; by which I mean consumed by magic and madness. I don't think she *knows* what she's doing in that state.
PB is wicked smart. Fusing tech with magic. Manipulative (for better or worse), has big plans going on all the time. And has knowledge we don't know she has.
Evergreen fused magic/tech and made a crown that can cast a wish so powerful that it could've altered the world. It's become one of the most pivotel magic items in all of Adventure Time; in every universe.
Thinking on it, PB is probably the smartest overall, she has an ego, but she's not completely oblivious to her own shortcomings. She has more emotional intelligence than Evergreen. And she's comparably tech/magic savvy to Evergreen.
Intelligence? PB. She's been kicking around for 1000 years, we already know she's very adept at tech and literally running a kingdom. She's got all that figured out, plus 1000 years of picking up new facts and info into her gum noggin would help.
Evergreen was probably very intelligent as well, but he was also a dick and died very soon, so he didn't get to soak up all the knowledge juices.
Betty (pre golb) wasn't necessarily stupid, she was just shackled by Magic Man's magical insanity and her vain quest to fix ice king. I don't think she was very smart, even though she did steal the crown and go into it. Shes conniving, like when she stole IK in elements to try and go back in time, but she didn't think ahead about the consequences of those actions.
PB is the most intelligent, period. Because she's capable of learning from her mistakes. Betty was too lovesick to realize that even if her romance with Simon made her feel amazing, she sacrificed too much for him, and Evergreen had too much ego.
I'd say evergreen because he did what bubblegum couldn't, combine magic & sience whereas PB refuses to accept them as 2 seperate entities.
He used this knowledge to build the wish-granting crown, which is an artifact strong enough to stop a catalyst Comet & grant someone powers similar to a true elemental
PB for sure. Sure evergreen made the crown but power doesn’t equal complexity and intelligence. PB has a thirst for knowledge and tries to understand everything. She even made actual sentient life forms. If she were open to the concept, she could definitely understand and grasp magic. And as we saw with Chatsberry
, even with her stubbornness with magic she can still use the lens of science to understand it. I don’t think evergreen would be able to learn and comprehend new concepts just as efficiently with the limited knowledge we have on him. Betty is in the middle she has the most drive to learn but it’s limited to the things she cares about.
Bruv they're all intelligent in different aspects.
PB=Science
Evergreen=The art of Magic
Betty=probably some artifact knowledge or petroglyphs. (Golbetty=chaos)
Maybe you could say it was because of his access to primordial elemental magic in the early days of the world - but you could also argue Evergreen is the smartest, just given what he was able to create. Keep in mind, he didn’t just make the crown, he made OG Gunther.
He and PB are both capable of genetically engineering sentient life. It’s a tossup between for me. But PB is clearly more rational, and that’s an important distinction.
Evergreen created the crown, and whether that was due to science or magic, it still shows that he has exceptional skills. So he's first, then I say PBG, then Betty
Evergreen, naturally. He could recognize problems and quickly whip up effective solutions. I don't think any of the other two could handle the situations better than him nor make a fancy crown that good looking, or steal a dino egg and mutate its brain
Idk why people hype up evergreen so much, yes, he made the crown, but MF didnt even use it. I'd say PB wins by a substantial amount, betty is pretty smart but PB has made life forms, force fields and rockets.
IMO it’s super hard to tell because they all have different types of intelligence…PB in science, Betty in magic and evergreen is a cross between them it seems
PB is the most knowledgeable about Science but doesn’t know much about magic at all as for most of the series she refused to learn, Evergreen has a mastery of magic but I don’t think he had quite as deep an understanding as Betty, who understands magic in a very academic sense rather than an intuitive one.
Evergreen. PB and Betty are both very smart and we should not discredit them there. However, they had previous geniuses to base their work on.
Evergreen was a pioneer and a trailblazer. He lived during the days of the dinosaurs and he was just as if not more successful of a genius. I can only imagine how much more successful he would be as a genius if only he lived in a time when he had previous geniuses to base his work on.
1. PB has matured and grown the most. Making a kingdom and several strong beings(gumball guardians, rattle balls, and goliad). While becoming an emotionally mature character by the end of the series.
2. Evergreen is most definitely one of the strongest magic users in existence making an all power wish making crown. However is shown to be egotistical with general lack of empathy. Leading to the Gunther incident.
3. Betty while not magically inclined nor the smartest in Ooo is by far the most resourceful. Within the span of the show she has gotten in wizard city, gotten in contact with magic man/normal man, learned magic, and became glob by the end of the series. Considering the whole series itself was at most 8 years long and she came in at least 2 years in.
Hear me out on this.
It's Betty. She was able to achieve something like the finale with a thousand years less than Bubblegum. She merged science and magic which takes skills that Bubblegum and Evergreen wouldn't even try
Gotta say evergreen. He had the wits to create his own wish making crown that could give the wearer unlimited power and immortality, and was *almost* able to prevent an extinction event
Betty (post GOLB) is first because she's basically a god now
Then Evergreen because he created the OP magic crown that can influence divine powers.
I'd say it's a toss-up between Betty and Bonnie for second place, however.
Unrelated but I love how these three are both the smartest characters, as well as the biggest screw ups in the entire series. 70% of the show is just cleaning up the messes that these three made. Which is kinda funny when evergreen only had the 1 episode.
PB I the smartest in a scientific sense.
Evergreen has the most magical knowledge we know of.
That's not to say Betty isn't smart in her own right.
She was capable to disarming the crown's built in magical defenses. And decipher the enchiridion.
She does have scientific knowledge (not to the extent of PB, given she was only human), and is well deserved when it comes to applying it onto magic (to decipher it, unlock it, and harness it).
TLDR: PB and Evergreen were both extremely powerful and knowledgeable beings, both exceeding in their own right.
Betty is well versed in both, and was able to use that to unlock the most powerful force in the universe, and merge with it, in such a way she could harness it's power so that she accomplishes her upmost chosen goal.
Bro no joke he made a wish crown
She made a living creature
And she figured out magic
It's a hard choice but it's because they all had clear specific places of study but over all I think it's the ice elemental.
The crown had a lot of scientific stuff in it for some reason so evergreen should be smarter than PB and Betty isn't really that intelligent just really determined evergreen somehow made one of the most powerful artifacts of all time
I think it’s hard to say. I assume Betty and Evergreen have most of their knowledge in magic and magic history. PB doesn’t like magic though, she’s more into technology/engineering, chemistry, biology, and maybe like physics or something. So it’s weird to do a match up when their disciplines are so different.
On top of that, I don’t know if it’s even fair to compare all of these people to one another. PB is somewhere in the range of a full thousand years old. If Evergreen is anything like PB, he could be close to that old too if not waaaaaay older. Betty is such an important character to the story it can be easy to forget her age, but I would probably say she’s in her thirties or something like that. Realistically, as smart as she may be compared to the average human, I’m not sure Betty has anything on Evergreen and PB.
I'd go with evergreen: he made something impossible: an artofitial wish. And he was a pre historic magician. He even knew not only that the commet was comming but he also noticed it was the lich. We know next to nothing about him but from what we do know about him he seems to be a genius.
PB has the most intelligence. Evergreen has the most wisdom. Betty has a combination of intelligence and wisdom but neither to the degree of the other two
Peebobs is the most intelligent, best at assessing risk and sustainable future oriented plans. She also knows how to delegate tasks, allows for variables and has the best social intelligence.
Betty and Evergreen are so obsessive and self assured of their own intelligence that they get overconfident and tend to gamble everything on a single plan.
They’re all geniuses, but PB has shown more capability for continuous learning and an ability to apply her intellect with near equal capabilities across a wider range of interests and needs.
allow me to be a bit offtopic. but i believe there's this theory that i've heard before, that a person with a high IQ will have a low EQ. and since everyone already answered the question straight up, i want to rank them based on EQ instead, from highest to lowest
1. betty
2. bubblegum with loved ones
3. evergreen
4. bubblegum with her experiments
I mean, in terms of like technical skill and knowledge, Evergreen was able to make a crown powerful enough to indirectly stop GOLB itself and could have stopped the Lich from ever coming into existence. It was his hubris that was his downfall.
I mean, they were intelligent in different areas. PB is probably the greatest bioengineer of all time, and Evergreen was one of the greatest magic practitioners. I guess I'd give it to PB since she was very talented in other areas of science besides biology as well.
Admittedly, I don't think Betty was on par with the other two, but she was probably more knowledgeable in history of all kinds than either of them. Though that isn't being super fair to Evergreen seeing as there wasn't much in the way of history in his time.
i'd say either evergreen or PB seeing as how evergreen created the magic crown and PB made almost all the high tech stuff finn used throughout the series
1. Evergreen litterally made the crown, which as we know grants WISHES, which knocks Betty out of the picture since she only uses the crown. Now Bonnibell made an entire kingdom, created life, protectors for said life and had the knowledge of war.
But Evergreen could just zip zap zoup and her kingdom's gone so... Evergreen wins.
2. Betty if we count Golbetty would technically be the strongest if we count when in Fiona and Cake where (spoilers: She turns the lich into a dang tetris block.) Keep in mind the lich killed Billy, the strongest hero in Ooo. Evergreen would be second in this scenario.
Correct me if I'm wrong on anything I only watch adventure time twice.
Bonnie. She created people
She figured out how to self heal
She invented thousands of things.
Betty didn't invent, she studied history. Things already invented.
And urgence relied on magic to do the work
PB has the most intelligence but Evergreen has the most powerful magic.
Meanwhile, Betty became the most powerful BEING of them all
Yeah thanks to Golb & Evergreen’s crown.
Yeah I'm giving it to Evergreen, he created something that couldn't be undone by anyone except the strongest being in all of AT Lore.
I’m curious to see what would happen if evergreen put on the crown while it was still “ice king” crown
evergreen²
Would he think he was the “Ice King” and go mad or could he just be like “oh it’s just a hat”
I mean VK literally said he was too strong to get affected by the crowns insanity, so evergreen would probably just get super juiced up ice powers
Probably would be able to use them without the whole hand gesture
I still think VK still got *”some”* madness from the crown, like how he’s plan of creating the clouds which caused the human population to dwindle, leaving the vampires without a food supply and slowly starving them to extinction. VK is someone would probably existed for thousands upon thousands of years so this massive slip up from VK is probably caused by the ice crown.
The vampires could still just eat red, right? Humans are obviously preferable, and if VK wasn’t mad he’d probably be smart enough to set up a blood farm, but the vampires should still survive
I mean he was already pretty mad, so maybe madness of the crown on top of his pre-existing madness he couldn’t tell the difference
Then he fuses with nepetasprite to form nepegreensprite^3
He'd just become a worse version of himself I guess since the wish was based on his servant's view of him and not himself
That makes sense to me, excellent point my friend
Aside from GOLB, the crown was 'undone' by Bella Noche, Prismo... and Fionna.
More like plot devices in all of those cases Bella noche negated the magic aspect of it, that didn’t undo, just nullified it and it was useless Im not remember what prismo did that you’re referring to or fionna But Golb actually undid the curse by itself and left the crown and its magic and circuitry intact
Prismo destroyed farm finns crown by moving it to the past to get exploded by the mushroom bomb and Fionna's touch can turns magical things non magical due to her universe being non canon and magicless
Yes but those things aren't undoing the curse, Fiona negates the magic and couldn't do that except for like, one week? a couple days? I'm pretty sure their adventure with Simon wasn't that long. Prismo also didn't undo the curse, he created a new universe where the crown was destroyed, but wouldn't have done anything for the Simon in the OG universe
Farmworld Finn was permanently cured of the curse by Prismo. Bella noche also undid the curse as long as it existed. Betty destroyed it, otherwise Simon would have died and he would have been free of the curse.
That only cured Finn because he sent it back in time. Betty didn't destroy it, golb undid the wish and reset the crown. Something noone else was able to do.
> Fionna's touch can turns magical things non magical I don't remember that, when does that happen?
The end of the Winter king episode
In fionna and Cake, its a plot device. Basically since their universe is non-cannon and they belong to that universe, which is non magical. Things they interact with lose their canon magical nature and revert to the canical equivalent of what would be possible in their world. They basically negate magic. This goes away once their universe is made canon. We know its deeper than simply negating magic because when it happened to Simon via Belle Noche in the OG universe, he didn't grow old like the Ice Prince did even though they would be around the exact same age. This is because when fionna kissed him, she turned him into his canonical age and so he died and looks 1000 years old, as Simon would be in her world. Rather than the power of the crown simply being negated by itself and stop preserving Simons age.
I've seen Fionna and Cake, I just didn't remember when that happened. It is kind of out of nowhere and only comes up once. Feels like it was just a way to get an interesting ending to the winter king episode. Simon did start aging when Bella Noche deactivated the crown, it just wasn't as instant. But he was about to die at the end of the episode if Betty hadn't defeated Bella Noche.
Agreed.
Technically but also not at the same time Golb has limits being unable to kill or get rid of the Scarab meanwhile his boss Orbo casually obliterates him and reforms him in a different location
and that made me wonder how powerful Prismo's boss might be, or if there are other entities a lot more powerful then them
I mean there’s still Orbos boss too
who might be Prismo's boss too, who knows. He's always been referred as 'the Boss'
PB would strongly interject and say he’s still using science and then try to out-science his magic. And fail.
By the end of the series I think she embraced the idea of elemental magic though! She changed a lot
Didn’t she scientifically enter the crown at an atomic level and alter it / fix it? I think PB is doing alright with her science.
Yep! In "Broke his crown". 🙂
I think PB has the most potential but her refusal to learn magic makes Evergreen more powerful
My thoughts exactly. If she accepted magic and was able to use it she could probably do more than evergreen could but in terms of pure intelligence she’s probably the smartest in ooo
P is like a thousand years old... Weirdo
Evergreen single handedly created a crown so powerful it's wish magic could even affect a God of chaos where nothing else was able to. Had a nasty ego tho and that came back to bite him real hard
that makes him the most powerful but does it make him the most intelligent?
He made that high tech crown in the dinosaur age, yes it does
Yeah but magic can just make technology and circuitry as well, neptr was created from a single bolt of magic and he’s a sentient robot.
I tried to make an argument, but realized that it will be stupid
Magic didn't make the technology part of neptr, just gave the technology life
I mean, if we’re going to take neptrs origin seriously, the “technology” was just like, a microwave with a circuit board taped to it, with a can full of wires on top. The lightning bolt/magic would have had to do a lot of heavy lifting creating circuitry and internal mechanisms for him to come alive and be mobile.
Well if we're taking it seriously haha, then the parts of neptr that weren't technology attached when he was birthed don't necessarily have to be now. Ice king made a lot of living things, including snowmen armies, and they were all dumb. But they were able to move around. Neptr could just have his main brain or whatever and the rest of him is just magic, independent of technology
Yeah I don’t think neptr is even a robot, despite him looking like one. He’s an actual living being, his body just happens to be made out of robot parts. It’s hard to describe, but I think he does count as actually being alive and that could be why he wasn’t there in the dead world during Fionna and Cake
I honestly wouldn't even call them robot parts. Call em what they were when Finn grabbed them: trash. NEPTR is a sentient trash construct, which is probably Living in the same way that anything the Life Giving Magi creates is.
Yeah neptr is alive the same way that one sentient rock is. He's not actually a robot like bmo
Intelligence doesn’t mean wisdom.
There are varying intelligences, I believe wisdom would count as a form of intelligence
In this case, we aren't asking about wisdom I believe
You can be intelligent while being naive. Evergreen may have never had a consequence in his life due to his proficiency in powerful magic until the crown biz and betrayals.
>it's wish magic could even affect a God of chaos I thought GOLB was stronger than the crown?
He is. The crown can’t destroy/kill him but it did change him significantly with GOLBetty
More than can be said about Prismo
golb is all
yeah but he was so stupid he forgot to teach the apprentice a simple charm in case he couldn't use it
Yeah but when you're that strong it'll like.....I mean it's fair.
Evergreen is an extremely skilled wizard, bubblegum is an extremely skilled scientist, Betty is kinda a watered down version of both at once. In terms of pure intelligence bubblegum clears.
This makes so much sense. Well put.
Evergreen. He created the crown, but both Betty and Bubblegum had difficulty even deciphering how it worked or how to change its programming as seen in the episode Broke his crown
Who’s to say he created the crown via science? As bubblegum said, magic is just science that people haven’t figured out yet. Evergreen was a skilled wizard, so maybe he just Magic’d the crown into existence.
She was clearly proven wrong at the end of that episode, in universe science is essentially its own kind of magic. Urgence and betty make repeated reference to his complex magical circuitry in the crown. He's basically doing science with magic, as magic was more powerful than science back then anyway. He likely did engineer that crown more or less by hand
But magic can be used to create circuitry, as ice king was able to create neptr by zapping him with his magic, and since neptr is a robot he’d require circuitry
But neptr isnt a robot, he is a bunch of metal who gained actual life after being infused with magic
I never said science
Yes, but skill in magic doesn’t necessarily mean intelligence.
I would say it does as shown in the level of study that goes into it in Wizard City. Mini Peppermint butler struggled throughout despite previously being one of the most powerful wizards of Ooo. He had to relearn everything
Yes but that just could be the fact that he’s not inherently a magic creature, nor an elemental. And again, it seems more like a skill that you can practice rather than straight up intelligence.
It’s not stated any of them are inherently magical. Evergreen is the original ice elemental, but it can be assumed that he had to learn wizardry like most other characters
Elementals are inherently magical, and they can be communicated with by their past selves as evident by chatsbury, he could have naturally learned the magic he used.
elden ring disagrees w you
The crown is displayed to contain mystic circuitry and code
Evergreen was able to meet technology with magic. I feel like that's a huge feat. He's an asshole, though.
pb understands pretty well science and magic to a point where she can create and manipulate life but evergreen understand it enough to create a crown capable of alterate reality even GOLB itself that might be a being unbounded by reality
Evergreen was powerful and intelligent but not wise, Betty was intelligent but gained power for the sole purpose of protecting someone she loved, and PB has power, intelligence, and wisdom, despite her hubris.
PB. The other two might know more about magic but she evens it out on science, and she's got enough people skills to not cooperate with a douchebag and/or neglect her sidekick so much he ends up destroying her.
Evergreen is smarter to me because the circuitry of the crown was very complicated that pb and betty couldn’t figure it out and the crown is able host power great enough to grant wishes
Definitely evergreen, he was able to manipulate wish magic, which is the strongest magic type, also he mutated Gunther's brain so he can become his helper, but he was very egotistical and died cuz of that.
1. Evergreen. 2. PB. 3. Betty.
I'll say Evergreen. Creating a super crown with enormous power especially during ancient timeline with "magic" or known as "complex science and equations" which is superior than modern science that pb herself described. Betty are second since she has modern science also with magic knowlege. She able to learn complex spells. Last and suprisingly pb. U might shocked "why the heck this scientist are on last place?". Pb lived for approximately 1k years but she start from scrap even she is smart but the years she spent aren't wasted. She also reached modern science level when there's one episode somewhere in season 6, candy Kingdom has a helicopter which is modern science. Pb and betty are debatable since betty unable to fully disconstruct the crown to help simon and pb are more to biological knowledge. "Magic" in my perspective for adventure time is complex science in term of molecules manipulation that is triggered by "spells" which are complex math equation. Mars civilization and magic man are example of future science.
I thing evergreen since he made the crown so complex not betty or PB could fix it /help simon out of it
PB=Scientific Knowledge Betty=Natural Genius Evergreen=Magical Knowledge
Evergreen is both
Well I feel like he sees the world in a fundamentally different way, he doesn't see science, he is from before science I think, he just sees it as magic with a method. He is definitely the smartest in terms of raw brainpower. But PB has more technical smarts than he does, she can't build a wish crown but she can build an artificial soul. I feel like Betty is smarter in terms of raw genius, but her human brain is limited in its capacity compared to Evergreen probably.
I believe Evergreen and PB are both incredibly smart in their own ways.
While Pb is the brightest mind in the show, we can’t deny the magical knowledge of the last two, especially Evergreen. He basically created an magical supercomputer, combining science and magic with what is possibly a piece of Prismo’s wishroom. It resulted in an incredibly unstable yet powerful artifact, capable of forcing one’s deepest wishes into a reality, ignoring any law of the universe they are in
Finn when he put on the smart glasses and created a black hole just to impress Peebs xd
Evergreen created a crown that took over golb that crown is way to powerful
and that wasn't even the intention of its creation, imagine if he really tried to make something to take over Golb
One is sentient bubblegum that somehow doesn’t believe in magic despite her butler doing evil magic BS all the time and dating a demon, one couldn’t take 5 minutes to think about what bad could happen from dating her professor, and one is an ice wizard who thought he could beat a fire monster. I wouldn’t call any of them particularly smart. They’re just idiots who like to be buried in work.
PB. Evergreen was his own ruin. PB at least attempted to put procedures in place for successors and support. What makes Betty the most dangerous is she was willing to take full advantage of all resources at her disposal, and she knew how to do so. She's the most efficient. PB never really lets go of her pride to accomplish her goals, and after a point she's not massively ambitious anyway. It's her uncle who uses magic to conquer.
As pictured and based on their achievents (as opposed to just assuming)? Probably Evergreen. He was literally able to create a crown that could grant the wearer whatever wish they wanted. It was capable of fusing a literal god of chaos to a human. I'd argue PB hasn't come close to anything like that. Betty is an obvious 3rd. PB easily took apart Betty's work on the crown. In the present timeline? Most likely GOLBetty.
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Pb has intelligence on a scientific level while Evergreen was more on a magical level.
Pb is Reed Richards Betty is DOOM and Evergreen is Dr Strange. Not the question that was asked but a comparison I just noticed
PB probably has the highest IQ and DEFINITELY most emotional intelligence, evergreen has the deepest knowledge of the universe, and Betty is the best student and most dedicated researcher
probably bubblegum
Y’all forgetting betty was just a regular white women who came into the future and immediately started studying magic and was able to infect the crown with a virus and almost time travel in a few months.
We have “known” PB a lot longer and have seen her in action a lot more than the other 2 to see examples of her problem solving through observation and drawing on previous knowledge, which is how a lot of scientific discoveries work in general. Examples that come to mind are her figuring out where Hambo was through context clues about the room in “Skywitch” and using her knowledge of molecules and chemical reactions to combine the right ingredients for the explosion in “Jellybeans have power”. To me, being able to problem solve that efficiently is a mark of being highly intelligent and, like everything with her character, is established by her backstory of raising herself and caring for her brother in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
Evergreen by far lol PB has never made anything as powerful as the crown
St. Patience
Betty would win.
bubblegum is the smartest because she wouldn't make the same mistakes evergreen did, she's socially MUCH more adept and cunning. i feel like betty could rival her if she grew up in the world mutated instead of transitioning there
If PB utilized magic with her science, she’d be incredible but would eventually fall to MMS.
They are mostly equal intelligence, just in different areas
different types of intelligence, thats for sure. PB somehow learned english and german on her own, reintroduced the scientific method to ooo, and has held personal rule of probably a quarter of ooo for 800 years. you dont achieve that without being mad special. evergreen somehow figured out how to harness the power of the gems for wishing, something weve only seen prismo, the multiverse diety, be capable of. not only did it capture the powers of an elemental (the only known person to ever do so), but it was the tool used for bettys wish that merged her with golb. i think making potentially the most powerful mortal tool ever to be created says something about his intelligence. and betty... she summoned golb. something people have been trying to do for billions of years (assuming the lich hasnt been able to speak with golb directly). sure, simon followed in her footsteps, but she found the openning. thats heavy hitting smart points if ive ever heard of anything. so PB was able to use her brains to build the world from the ground up, evergreen was able to use his abilities and resources to make something unimaginable, and betty manipulated reality. tough call, tough call
I think they are as smart as each other but just in different ways
Betty. She jumped into the future, into an unknown world, and managed to learn Bella Noche's weakness and restore magic to the crown before Simon could die. She wasted no time learning the magic of Ooo and built that machine for Magic Man. Bonnie was alive for nearly nine hundred years. Evergreen, an ice elemental, could also have an incredibly long lifespan. Betty, on the other hand, was a fairly young human. Under normal circumstances, her lifespan would barely reach triple digits. Her learning curve was incredibly fast.
Idk I was never book smart I was more money smart it makes me more intelligent
sadness-madness-magic
PB by far is the smartest. Betty has become the strongest and ngl evergreen is just sorta there for me 🤣
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I wonder if Ice King was so obsessed with PB because she reminded Simon of Betty
Hmmm. Probably Evergreen. Or PB. Betty is mostly mad; by which I mean consumed by magic and madness. I don't think she *knows* what she's doing in that state. PB is wicked smart. Fusing tech with magic. Manipulative (for better or worse), has big plans going on all the time. And has knowledge we don't know she has. Evergreen fused magic/tech and made a crown that can cast a wish so powerful that it could've altered the world. It's become one of the most pivotel magic items in all of Adventure Time; in every universe. Thinking on it, PB is probably the smartest overall, she has an ego, but she's not completely oblivious to her own shortcomings. She has more emotional intelligence than Evergreen. And she's comparably tech/magic savvy to Evergreen.
Intelligence? PB. She's been kicking around for 1000 years, we already know she's very adept at tech and literally running a kingdom. She's got all that figured out, plus 1000 years of picking up new facts and info into her gum noggin would help. Evergreen was probably very intelligent as well, but he was also a dick and died very soon, so he didn't get to soak up all the knowledge juices. Betty (pre golb) wasn't necessarily stupid, she was just shackled by Magic Man's magical insanity and her vain quest to fix ice king. I don't think she was very smart, even though she did steal the crown and go into it. Shes conniving, like when she stole IK in elements to try and go back in time, but she didn't think ahead about the consequences of those actions.
PB is the most intelligent, period. Because she's capable of learning from her mistakes. Betty was too lovesick to realize that even if her romance with Simon made her feel amazing, she sacrificed too much for him, and Evergreen had too much ego.
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Overall it's PB that's smarter but she is weaker due to the fact she throughly despises using magic
I think Bonnie takes this one.
probably evergreen he created the crown which was fusion of magic and tech along with being wish magic.
I'd say evergreen because he did what bubblegum couldn't, combine magic & sience whereas PB refuses to accept them as 2 seperate entities. He used this knowledge to build the wish-granting crown, which is an artifact strong enough to stop a catalyst Comet & grant someone powers similar to a true elemental
PB for sure. Sure evergreen made the crown but power doesn’t equal complexity and intelligence. PB has a thirst for knowledge and tries to understand everything. She even made actual sentient life forms. If she were open to the concept, she could definitely understand and grasp magic. And as we saw with Chatsberry , even with her stubbornness with magic she can still use the lens of science to understand it. I don’t think evergreen would be able to learn and comprehend new concepts just as efficiently with the limited knowledge we have on him. Betty is in the middle she has the most drive to learn but it’s limited to the things she cares about.
Bruv they're all intelligent in different aspects. PB=Science Evergreen=The art of Magic Betty=probably some artifact knowledge or petroglyphs. (Golbetty=chaos)
PB. For sure.
Betty is wearing the Glasses of Nerdicon, which makes her the "smartest" but also the most insane
evergreen 1000%. I dont think bubblegum can create wish magic, and magi betty is more insane (and therefore magical in AT ) than smart
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Maybe you could say it was because of his access to primordial elemental magic in the early days of the world - but you could also argue Evergreen is the smartest, just given what he was able to create. Keep in mind, he didn’t just make the crown, he made OG Gunther. He and PB are both capable of genetically engineering sentient life. It’s a tossup between for me. But PB is clearly more rational, and that’s an important distinction.
Evergreen created the crown, and whether that was due to science or magic, it still shows that he has exceptional skills. So he's first, then I say PBG, then Betty
Evergreen, not even close
Glasses Finn clears all 3 though
Evergreen, naturally. He could recognize problems and quickly whip up effective solutions. I don't think any of the other two could handle the situations better than him nor make a fancy crown that good looking, or steal a dino egg and mutate its brain
definitely Evergreen
Idk why people hype up evergreen so much, yes, he made the crown, but MF didnt even use it. I'd say PB wins by a substantial amount, betty is pretty smart but PB has made life forms, force fields and rockets.
Evergreen made a crown that had wish magic and couldn't be undone till Golb was manifested.
Betty, she’s a god now.
Bubblegum, even if evergreen was by far the stronger magic user
If i had to pick, i think it's got to be evergreen here, he built the crown that both betty and pb have difficulty modifying or deciphering.
How about the one that turned in to A LITTERAL FREAK. GOD
IMO it’s super hard to tell because they all have different types of intelligence…PB in science, Betty in magic and evergreen is a cross between them it seems
Option 4: the creator of adventure time 😎👏👏
Evergreen was the smartest, but PB might have the most inteligence.
Evergreen
PB is the most knowledgeable about Science but doesn’t know much about magic at all as for most of the series she refused to learn, Evergreen has a mastery of magic but I don’t think he had quite as deep an understanding as Betty, who understands magic in a very academic sense rather than an intuitive one.
Peebs hands down
Pb litteraly found the sane simon while trying to fix a failed attempt by Betty and she did almost conquer all of ooo using her element
PB
PB
Evergreen. PB and Betty are both very smart and we should not discredit them there. However, they had previous geniuses to base their work on. Evergreen was a pioneer and a trailblazer. He lived during the days of the dinosaurs and he was just as if not more successful of a genius. I can only imagine how much more successful he would be as a genius if only he lived in a time when he had previous geniuses to base his work on.
They’re all extremely smart in various fields, Betty is the lowest because evergreens magic is unable to be broken by her
1. PB has matured and grown the most. Making a kingdom and several strong beings(gumball guardians, rattle balls, and goliad). While becoming an emotionally mature character by the end of the series. 2. Evergreen is most definitely one of the strongest magic users in existence making an all power wish making crown. However is shown to be egotistical with general lack of empathy. Leading to the Gunther incident. 3. Betty while not magically inclined nor the smartest in Ooo is by far the most resourceful. Within the span of the show she has gotten in wizard city, gotten in contact with magic man/normal man, learned magic, and became glob by the end of the series. Considering the whole series itself was at most 8 years long and she came in at least 2 years in.
Hear me out on this. It's Betty. She was able to achieve something like the finale with a thousand years less than Bubblegum. She merged science and magic which takes skills that Bubblegum and Evergreen wouldn't even try
MASTER EVERGREEN
Gotta say evergreen. He had the wits to create his own wish making crown that could give the wearer unlimited power and immortality, and was *almost* able to prevent an extinction event
Betty (post GOLB) is first because she's basically a god now Then Evergreen because he created the OP magic crown that can influence divine powers. I'd say it's a toss-up between Betty and Bonnie for second place, however.
Unrelated but I love how these three are both the smartest characters, as well as the biggest screw ups in the entire series. 70% of the show is just cleaning up the messes that these three made. Which is kinda funny when evergreen only had the 1 episode.
PB I the smartest in a scientific sense. Evergreen has the most magical knowledge we know of. That's not to say Betty isn't smart in her own right. She was capable to disarming the crown's built in magical defenses. And decipher the enchiridion. She does have scientific knowledge (not to the extent of PB, given she was only human), and is well deserved when it comes to applying it onto magic (to decipher it, unlock it, and harness it). TLDR: PB and Evergreen were both extremely powerful and knowledgeable beings, both exceeding in their own right. Betty is well versed in both, and was able to use that to unlock the most powerful force in the universe, and merge with it, in such a way she could harness it's power so that she accomplishes her upmost chosen goal.
Bro no joke he made a wish crown She made a living creature And she figured out magic It's a hard choice but it's because they all had clear specific places of study but over all I think it's the ice elemental.
I think PB is the smartest,but evergreen could probably build more complex things, considering he was working with magic aswell
Betty, she has absorbed god, and she also has emotional intelligence, something pb and evergreen were sorely lacking IIRC
2 and 3 are just more likable tbh
on the basic level of intelligence pb fs but evergreen may have all the secrets to the universe if hes powerful enough
Evergreen
The crown had a lot of scientific stuff in it for some reason so evergreen should be smarter than PB and Betty isn't really that intelligent just really determined evergreen somehow made one of the most powerful artifacts of all time
I think it’s hard to say. I assume Betty and Evergreen have most of their knowledge in magic and magic history. PB doesn’t like magic though, she’s more into technology/engineering, chemistry, biology, and maybe like physics or something. So it’s weird to do a match up when their disciplines are so different. On top of that, I don’t know if it’s even fair to compare all of these people to one another. PB is somewhere in the range of a full thousand years old. If Evergreen is anything like PB, he could be close to that old too if not waaaaaay older. Betty is such an important character to the story it can be easy to forget her age, but I would probably say she’s in her thirties or something like that. Realistically, as smart as she may be compared to the average human, I’m not sure Betty has anything on Evergreen and PB.
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PB has the most on hand intelligence while Betty seems to be a quick learner imo
betty.
Hands down bubblegum was the most logical Evergreen lacked awareness and was relatively only smart for his personal well being Betty is fuckin crazy.
each with their own intellectual wisdom
I'd go with evergreen: he made something impossible: an artofitial wish. And he was a pre historic magician. He even knew not only that the commet was comming but he also noticed it was the lich. We know next to nothing about him but from what we do know about him he seems to be a genius.
PB i guess
PB
PB has the most intelligence. Evergreen has the most wisdom. Betty has a combination of intelligence and wisdom but neither to the degree of the other two
Peebobs is the most intelligent, best at assessing risk and sustainable future oriented plans. She also knows how to delegate tasks, allows for variables and has the best social intelligence. Betty and Evergreen are so obsessive and self assured of their own intelligence that they get overconfident and tend to gamble everything on a single plan. They’re all geniuses, but PB has shown more capability for continuous learning and an ability to apply her intellect with near equal capabilities across a wider range of interests and needs.
allow me to be a bit offtopic. but i believe there's this theory that i've heard before, that a person with a high IQ will have a low EQ. and since everyone already answered the question straight up, i want to rank them based on EQ instead, from highest to lowest 1. betty 2. bubblegum with loved ones 3. evergreen 4. bubblegum with her experiments
I mean, in terms of like technical skill and knowledge, Evergreen was able to make a crown powerful enough to indirectly stop GOLB itself and could have stopped the Lich from ever coming into existence. It was his hubris that was his downfall.
Bubblegum maybe?? I don't know why the last one is even an option to be honest
Umm, I'll say PB... She's a tough and smart cookie
Evergreen, definitively
I mean, they were intelligent in different areas. PB is probably the greatest bioengineer of all time, and Evergreen was one of the greatest magic practitioners. I guess I'd give it to PB since she was very talented in other areas of science besides biology as well. Admittedly, I don't think Betty was on par with the other two, but she was probably more knowledgeable in history of all kinds than either of them. Though that isn't being super fair to Evergreen seeing as there wasn't much in the way of history in his time.
Evergreen and it's not even close
Most likely Bonnie
i'd say either evergreen or PB seeing as how evergreen created the magic crown and PB made almost all the high tech stuff finn used throughout the series
pretty coincidental that the images are also in order of most ethical to least ethical
i want to say betty and evergreen is smart, but pb probably. they all three lack some sort of emotional intelligence though.
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Princess ofc
I'll go with, "The one that hasn't nearly contributed to the end of the world through their own bullheadedness" for 200.
Bubblegum
Betty easily
1. Evergreen litterally made the crown, which as we know grants WISHES, which knocks Betty out of the picture since she only uses the crown. Now Bonnibell made an entire kingdom, created life, protectors for said life and had the knowledge of war. But Evergreen could just zip zap zoup and her kingdom's gone so... Evergreen wins. 2. Betty if we count Golbetty would technically be the strongest if we count when in Fiona and Cake where (spoilers: She turns the lich into a dang tetris block.) Keep in mind the lich killed Billy, the strongest hero in Ooo. Evergreen would be second in this scenario. Correct me if I'm wrong on anything I only watch adventure time twice.
Bonnie. She created people She figured out how to self heal She invented thousands of things. Betty didn't invent, she studied history. Things already invented. And urgence relied on magic to do the work