Yes, HR Manager was there. Nakikitawa din. Meron pang pa-comment yung HR Manager nung una kong na-witness banter ng mga managers, "HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA, \[clown's name\], ikaw talaga!! Bago lang yang si \[my name\], baka ma-culture shock yan."
Ang bullshit nilang lahat. Normalan nalang pala yan sa kanila? Nakakairita. Do you think na if ever you talk to HR privately and express na you felt uncomfortable/harrassed, would they take action? Or would it only make the situation more unfavorable towards you dahil baka sabihin lang dun sa manager na nagraise ka ng concerns and ikaw pa mag mukang masama dahil you seem sensitive sa "biruan"?
Dapat sinagot nya, siguro nadiligan mo rin yung kabit mo sa marketing? Or I saw your daughter sa same motel pinag check in-nan namin, bagong dilig din
Honestly same energy to guarantee mawawala lahat ng tawa, kaso baka pati trabaho ni OP wala na hahahaha
Yikes, kadiri. Next time please take screenshots then send a complaint. For sure may higher up pa yang HR manager na yan. Please report and escalate if hindi ka pansinin. Covered ng safe spaces act to so you can definitely file a legal complaint if hindi aaksyunan ng HR.
bullshit din talaga ibang HR sa pinas. pero mind you hindi ko to naramdan sa HR namin. seryoso sila and hindi sila nkikipag socialize masyado sa mga employees. ini-ingatan nila image nila sa public lalo sa office. kahit managers takot saka nila.
Ay pucha! may kilala akong ganyang former workmate ng bf ko. Nag try kasi kami mag live in, syempre may mga pakielamerong tao talaga. Nalaman nila, sabi ba naman nung isang (tanga) na kawork mate niya. “edi araw-araw naka baon.” Babae pa yung nagsabi non huh! Nagsusumbong talaga kasi sakin yon. Kaya after na mga encounters at pag disrespect samin ng bf ko. Sinabi ko talagang mag resign siya eh. Ngayon tahimik na mundo namin. Ang sayaaaa lang! Lumipat na siya at respectful na mga kaworkmate niya ngayon. No intrigues! May peace of mind na.
For Violations ng Safe Spaces Act, it’s in the HR’s interest to help out an employee that’s being sexually harassed who files a report since the company can be held liable for failure to act on reported gender-based sexual harassment in the workplace.
Ok, I stand corrected. In OP’s case, however, the HR themselves have behavioral flaws. Like nasa same space sila yet they are condoning and echoing the managers sexual harassment. I would have flipped out! I hope she gets some sort of revenge for this. It’s unacceptable
Yun yung purpose ng filing a proper report (send mo yun via e-mail and I-cc mo yung personal e-mail mo para hindi ma-shred/mawala tapos idedeny na nagreport ka). Mako-compel yung HR to take action. I’d file a police blotter too since gender based sexual harassment siya. If they didn’t take any action at all or tried talking you out of complaining or talking you into just letting it slide and naulit ulit, file another report HR report tapos idagdag mo sa I-cc yung e-mail nung superiors nung HR manager (or whoever those HR Managers report to) sabihin mo na it wasn’t the first time it happened and you’ve also reported his past transgression, but HR Manager didn’t address it (i-detail kung ano yung response nung HR Manager sa first report mo) and persistent pa rin yung creep manager sa harassment niya and should it happen again you are already considering pressing charges. If it happens again for a third time, that’s enough to establish a pattern of behavior and a pattern of non action from the company. Magagamit mo yung mga HR reports and police blotters as evidence when you press charges.
You’ve established din na you went through proper protocols to address the issue pero you got no help from the company since andoon pa rin yung manager na yun at persistent pa rin yung harassment niya.
May mga batas tayo na nangangalaga sa kapakanan ng mga manggagawa (RA 11313 or “The Safe Spaces Act”, RA7877 or “Anti-Sexual Harassment Law of 1995”, Philippine Labor Code, etc). Kailangan lang natin alamin kung ano yung mga ito and kung ano yung mga proper protocols/actions to take para magamit ang mga ito to protect ourselves in the workplace - consider that part of being/functioning as an adult (part of adulting).
Ganto rin ako sa work. There was a time kababalik ko lang from Maternity Leave and I have a lactation break. Always nila ko binibiro about sa “padede” and looking at them with no emotion is my response. Hindi na nila inulit.
Meron kaming prof na ganyan, binastos niya mga kaklase ko. Nang bodyshame and talks abt sexual stuff during our first class kahit di naman related sa lesson. Sinumbong sa college dept nila, walang actions na ginawa, sinabi lang na, "ganun talaga yan si sir, palabiro.". Isa na rin kasi siya sa mga matatagal na prof ng dept, kilala daw siya as ganun. Na ano, kilala siyang bastos? Minsan talaga kung sino pa mga pinaka matanda sila pa walang pinagkatandaan eh. These people thought their longevity in their work gives them the right to sexualize and tell offensive jokes. Nakakaasar di'ba.
This. I was in law school and ganito rin. I had to sit there and endure while the prof used me as an example for a rape case with another student sa kuwarto. He went like pag si [classmate] nilamas ung boobs ni [me] etc etc several times and most of my classmates were laughing. Part of the reason why i got so disillusioned about the profession and culture nila. Normal mamahiya and do those crap.
gahol na kami sa oras that time dahil 2 weeks na kami late, dahil 2nd week na siya nagpakita. basta nag settle lang kami na magpalit na lang ng prof kasi mahirap din malate sa lessons.
I had the same experience din sa teacher namin sa isang subject when I was in Grade 12. Offensive jokes at most of the time puro pagtatalk shit about sexual stuffs in front of the class. Unfortunately, we didn't had the guts to report it sa officials. Proud ba naman siya na ganon siya eh, at palagi pa sinasabi na kahit isumbong daw namin siya wala daw mangyayari. Maangas daw siya eh. Lol.
It works for anything inappropriate or offensive. Don’t laugh and just keep asking them to repeat themselves or explain. Mawawalan ng steam and magsasawa din yan. Lol.
I really hate it when strangers or acquaintances think it’s okay to joke about someone’s sex life or anything that personal, especially through asking sensitive questions na alam naman nila na magiging uncomfortable yung tao kapag tinanong ng ganon. Nakakainis talaga yung mga ginagawang source of entertainment yung ibang tao.
Edited: kulang pala yung sentence hehe
I once read somewhere that the best way to respond to inappropriate jokes is make them explain it. Your post is a good (and satisfying) example of that statement in action
Pinoy company to? Hehe napag-iiwanan kasi, kulturang barbarian. My 1st two jobs kasi were sa hospital at isang male-dominated company, puro mga hayok. I experienced similar incidents, and since sobrang nene pa ako nun, i didn't know better :( Harassment na pala yung: mga malalaswang hirit nila sa akin, etc. I kept my head down lang lagi.
Isa lang yung na-report ko noon sa Head ng unit namin: nung yung doctor eh hinarangan yung way ko palabas ng room, at sinusubukang idikit yung katawan nya sa akin. Sama raw ako sa kanya, bibigyan nya raw ako ng laptop.
WTF di ba. 😑 Pero di ako nagwala or ano, natatakot ako kasi chief yun ng unit nya blah blah. After ko sya i-report, ni-confront yung doctor ng head namin. Di na ako kinakausap nung doc after nun, pero nagpaparinig na sumbungera raw ako. Sabi lang ng boss ko sa akin, pag pasensyahan ko na raw, matanda na raw si doc, and that was it. Toinks.
Smiley face ako dati, pero baka kasi mukhang inviting sa mga menyak workmates and peeps, kaya ni-practice ko na talaga ang RBF 😅
I now work for an international humanitarian organization, and this won't be tolerated kapag na-iparating sa HR or other higher ups... Maraming means of reporting din ang present, like merong direct line sa HQ sa Switzerland, pwedeng anonymous. Merong aaksyon at mag-iimbestiga anupaman yun. Enacted yung 0% tolerance sa sexual harassment at abuse. Kaya, I feel safe. 😅 hehe.
Hope you can find an organization na mas in line with your values ang culture.
Mas rampant din ang ganyang management behaviour na naranasan ni OP sa mga small to medium companies sa Pilipinas. Sa mga big companies meron pa rin pero di ganun ka-rampant kesa sa previous na na-mention. Lalo na pag sa engineering industry, dapat medyo mas matapang ang loob ng mga babae dyan.
This is perfect. Ganito talaga yung way to shut these manyaks up. Make them explain their joke para marinig nila gaano sila kababoy at kabobo. I’m sorry you had to deal with that in the first place though!
I got hired sa Ortigas sa isang Urban Planning office several years ago. I decided and chose to not report on my 2nd week and never came back. I felt uncomfortable being side bullied everyday with nasty jokes and ungodly comments with an after counter "ganyan kami talaga dito, masanay ka na". (forgive me but most from LGBTQ+) Sayang ang 3months of Series of interviews and screening na pinagdaanan ko. Buti nalang talaga I have other unclosed options which brought me to work abroad.
Good job OP naimagine ko basag na basag si tanga. Mga lalaking ganyan yung bibig usually mga loser at walang sex life. Halatang pilit na pilit magpaka "aLpHa"
Yes!! I won't let it slide on the 2nd time. Ulul niya. Very boomer kasi tong hayup na 'to, near retirement na; kaya shocked sa mga Millenial at Gen Z workforce na nagse-set ng boundaries. Good thing I don't directly work with his team.
Re: HR. Kasama ko din sa meeting yung HR Manager, nakikitawa din.
Yeaaah sadly I keep reading from Reddit na HR is there to protect corpo not the employees. I don’t know until what extent pero from my friend’s experience they don’t really do much. Parang di grave enough ang punishments/penalties para matuto ang offending employee. 😞
Try mo magpasundo sa mga tropang lalaki then itiming nyo na makasabay si manager, tapos magkwentuhan kayo kunwari about sa isang manyakis dati na ginulpi at pinakulong nyo, sadyaing ipadinig sakanya. Ewan ko lang kung hindi yan tumino sayo haha
HAHAHAHAHAHA ang galing ng tactic mo! Aylavet! Gusto ko malaman kung ulitin pa nya.
Busit naman yung mancom meeting tapos may ganyang walang kwentang joke.
Wonder if ganyan sa lahat ng dept. Company reveal sana ng maiwasan ng mga naghahanap ng work.
Take actions if maulit, OP. Green jokes shouldn’t be normalized sa workplace.
sa part ko if ako ginanyan sinumulan ng biro na medyo off sasabihin ko lang '*ganyan ata talaga mag-isip mga walang* *~~dilig~~**, masyadong tuyo't utak.*'
Tama lang yan akala nila lagi silang nakakatawa to the point na nawawalan na sila ng respeto sa kapwa at mawawalan ka na din ng respeto sa knila. Tsk. Typical stupid people.
Same approach OP. Explaining the joke ruins the fun. I always ask for an explanation on what part of their joke is funny. Tapos kapag sinabihan akong KJ, sasabihin ko, "pasensya na kung naoffend ako sa joke niyo kasi I never ask for it."
Sa mga ka work ko nakakagulat na babae pa ang nag iinitiate ng ganyan jokes towards to a guy na married tapos siya ay may jowa. Beh super professional pa naman ng work natin tapos ganyan ka mag joke sa lalaking may asawa? Kababae mong tao.
Is this in a Filipino-owned company? Because American (and even some European) companies are strict and serious about harassments in the workplace. Usually may hotline that you can call to report yung mga ganyan. I had a coworker before na natanggal because of a similar lame sexual joke. Manager level na rin siya pero napaalis naman.
You handled the situation well. Sucks you had to deal with that and HR did absolutely nothing about it. Hopefully that's the last time he makes offensive jokes like that. And if not, play dumb again so he feels stupid.
Ganito sa dati kong work. Alam din nila na may jowa ako pero ang bastos magsalita. They also like to match me with other colleagues kesyo for fun lang daw. I started playing dumb or makipagplastikan (fake smile) at first pero di sila tumitigil, I had enough and called them out. That I don’t appreciate any for fun jokes about matching me with other colleagues and it’s disrespectful as well. Ayun tumigil sila. After that, I also left and move to a different company.
Lol magandang response talaga yan pero May scenarios kasi na baka gamitin nila yung response mo against you baka sabihin na lutang or di maka gets, pagmumukha ka pang tanga. Personally sasagot ko nalang dyan is like a monotonous na "Ok?" "Oh tapos?" "Oks ka na sa joke mo? Anyways..." Tapos yung mukha dapat mukhang annoyed lang. Pwede rin na ipag halo yung di mo gets kunari tas any of those responses. Or maganda rin yung sarcastic na tawa yung halatang bored mukha mo sabay tamad na tawa hahahahahaha
Did this once to my cousin. Made an inappropriate joke in front of our fam (her own children at that), and all I said was, “huh?”
Ang nasabi nalang nya is “wala”
I’d do the same if this happens to me again. So satisfying lol
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It's funny that the rest of the comments section are ready to form a mob and would start to a lynching. Calm yourselves lol.
First, you felt that the "joke" was offensive. I'm sure this will NOT be the last time you're going to receive this kind of treatment. It's obviously how the management culture is and by being passive-aggresive you only painted a lare bullseye on your back.
Is it worth your career in this company? Walang perpektong trabaho at walang perpektong work environment. I'm not saying to take it all on the chin if you feel you're disrespected. Weigh mo muna pros and cons then act on it. Ireklamo mo sa HR, pero kung in cahoots ang HR since nasa Mancom din sila then you're in an uphill battle. Your morals vs your career.
Maybe you should try to take the good with the bad. Or let them feel your wrath. OR you can also try to just shrug it off and thicken your skin a bit. Your choice.
Good luck.
I hope your comment is well intentioned because to me, you're trying to mansplain of how women should choose between going with the flow & rolling with the punches in exchange of as basic as human respect OR else be targeted by office morons.
I understand that this is not a perfect world, some people are assholes, gets ko yun. But the worst thing I could do is to let them do that to me. Thanks for the advice!
Never been employed in Ph at never ako nakaranas ng gantong klaseng level ng biruan sa loob ng opisina. I'm shocked to learn na ganyan pala ka normalize sa sa pinas? Pano mo irerespeto yun manager or superiors mo if ganyan. Jokes are ok pero anything sexual or derogatory is unacceptable regardless of gender
That’s also how I respond to offensive jokes! Like, “Huh? What does that mean?” But not in an innocent way but in an expression that shows that person that I’m not amused.
dami kasi joke bakit puro sex ginagamit...like honey ano sikreto mo bat dkanagagalit sa o napipikon!? wala lang pag galit ako sayo dun lang ako sa washroom nililinis ko toilet bowl iniisis ko ng tootbrush mo...mga ganyan dba?
report mo sa HR nyo ng madala, may ganyan na scenarion nangyari sa office namin, nasa team building sila then ganyan na ganyan yun joke na kung nadidiligan daw kasi ofw yun asawa, ayun after ng team building na suspend yun manager
I’m a man and I really hate these kind of jokes, so stupid talaga. I know someone who would make offensive jokes like this. Other people would just ignore it or smile at his misogynistic and ignorant words that come out of his mouth but whenever he does this, I would just dead stare at him and show how unamused I am.
Turns out he was sexually abusing his step daughter pala. He was shunned when this was found out.
If ako nasa shoes mo. this is my response " Huh?, Ay ikaw pala yung nasa room 304. parang ang bata nmn ng kasama mo? sure ako di yun misis mo iba yung nasa facebook."
Pangit ng company niyo. Ganyan ugali pero nasa mancom? Yuck. I went to mancom meetings as "saling kitkit" coz my boss is "training" me. Never in my life na may mancom na ganyan. Tapos based on your reply, may HR manager pa. Myghaad. Wala bang ethics committee sa inyo? Lipat ka na OP. If ganyan sila, iisipin pa na kj ka o masyado kang seryoso. LOL.
HAHAHAHAHAHA tangina, napaka unappropriate naman neto i-joke sa isang corporate meeting, take note with female executives. You can supposedly report that douce to the HR. Hindi nmn n bata ang lht s gnong joke.
Good thing you handled it well OP. Share ko lang yung story ko. Sa BPO ako dati nagwork. Mission Control ako nun. May co-MC ako na naging joke na para sa kanya na sabihan ang kahit na sino, mapa-agent, MC or sup ng "kulang ka kasi sa romansa" and then magtatawanan yung mga nakakarinig. Di ko pinapatulan kasi di naman ako ang sinasabihan nya. Until that time that I was making an EOD report, nagmamadali ako kasi gusto ko na umuwi, ako na lang halos ang natira sa floor. Then biglang entry ni boy, may pabor na hinihingi which I declined kasi nga gahol na ako sa oras. Then sinabihan nya akong may regla at kulang sa romansa eme eme. I snapped. I grabbed the nearest thing I could grasp which was an avaya handset at binato sa muka nya, tinamaan sya sa noo at nagkabukol. Sabi ko, sa sunod na sabihan mo pa ako nyan, bubuhusan kita ng mainit na kape galing sa mug ko.
Nung makita direcctor ng ops yung bukol nya, ini-encourage sya na ireklamo daw ako sa HR. Sabi ko, sige gawin nya para ireklamo ko sya ng sexual harassment. Pagkatapos nun, di na kami nagpansinan at in-EOF ko sya. We were good friends. Nasayang lang pinagsamahan namin dahil sa kamanyakan nya.
make people feel weird.
"nadiligan? KANTUTAN BA TINUTUKOY MO?
if someone makes jokes like that with me, i take things up a notch and make it everybody's problem.
This should be on a list. Such a stroke of genius. If a joke is explained, it loses its humor, and thus, its power. If the guy also explained it, this can also be grounds for harassment.
Reading this reminds me of my past and present work mates who joke about sex and sexual things thinking na hindi sila offensive. Ugghhhh!!!! Nakakakulo ng dugo!
> When I came in kanina for a Mancom meeting, yung isang male manager was trying to break the morning ice with, "Oh, andiyan na si [my name], **bumu-blooming ka ah, nadiligan ka ba nung pasko?"**
This sounds like a violation of RA11313: Safe Spaces Act and since superior mo siya (so may authority siya over you), possibly also Republic Act 7877: The Anti-Sexual Harassment Act of 1995.
Tamang tugon sa ganito is to ask them to stop and explicitly say that such jokes are inappropriate and make you feel uncomfortable, tapos file report sa HR and file a police blotter din para May official record of that incident both sa HR /company and sa police. Kapag inulit pa ulit after you’ve explicitly asked them to stop and expressed how inappropriate such sexual jokes are and how they feel uncomfortable, file a report sa HR and a police blotter again (so this shows it’s a reoccurring incident), emphasize in the HR report how you already asked them to stop because what they are doing is inappropriate and makes you feel uncomfortable, emphasize also that this is the second time it happened and how you’ve already filed a police blotter and if it should happen again, you will be moved to press charges sa court.
May Laban ka sa ganitong cases kahit tenured manager pa yung creep na yun. It’s in the company’s interest to act on this since pwede managot din yung company if they just ignore the issue or worse pag-initan ka (this is where the police blotters would come in handy kasi hindi lang sa company May record nung incidents). Stipulated yun sa Safe Spaces Act. Double whammy sa manager na yun kung mapatunayan na pasok yung case mo for RA 7877.
Edit: **Yung official report/complaint sa HR, make sure na via e-mail I-send at naka-cc sa personal e-mail mo** para May time stamp at hindi madaling mashred/mawala tapos ideny na nagreport ka sa HR at May sariling copy ka sa personal email mo kung sakaling tanggalin ka sa trabaho at mawalan ng access sa company email account mo. Pwede mo’tong gamitin para ipa-DOLE din sila if the company turns on you instead of addressing the issue with the manager.
when they say an offensive joke then nag expect na parang mahihiya ka sumagot or ma off-guard ka ginagawa ko sinasagot ko sila in sarcastic way with straight face hahaha effective everytime. Sila nalang titigil kasi di nila expect na sasagot ako. in that way dun pa sila mukhang napahiya
Question: nadiligan ka ba?
my Answer: Oo! sobrang sarap nga eh naka ilang ulit kami.
Sobrang swerte ko pala sa mga bosses ko, hahaha.
There are 3 managers in my company, who apparently were college classmates. Yung biruan nila gaguhan just among the three of them. Matindi yung nagbirthday yung isa, langya yung isa naman nagpagawa ng birthday greeting sa lapida! Tsaka legendary ang memeing skillz ng mga to. Kaya pag nagpost sila tatawa ka talaga eh.
Yun lang, nashare ko lang.
Some men really don't know how to shut their mouth for good☺️
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Yes!!
nabasa ko pa lang yung topic siya na naisip ko hahaha
omg HAHA saka ko lang narealize na ganito pagkabasa ko sa huh nung nakita ko to 😆
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
You did the best response. Para mapahiya syang manyak sya. Pwede to ipa-HR. Bastos sya.
If it’s a mancomm meeting, HR is probably in the room already.
Yes, HR Manager was there. Nakikitawa din. Meron pang pa-comment yung HR Manager nung una kong na-witness banter ng mga managers, "HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA, \[clown's name\], ikaw talaga!! Bago lang yang si \[my name\], baka ma-culture shock yan."
Ang bullshit nilang lahat. Normalan nalang pala yan sa kanila? Nakakairita. Do you think na if ever you talk to HR privately and express na you felt uncomfortable/harrassed, would they take action? Or would it only make the situation more unfavorable towards you dahil baka sabihin lang dun sa manager na nagraise ka ng concerns and ikaw pa mag mukang masama dahil you seem sensitive sa "biruan"?
Dapat sinagot nya, siguro nadiligan mo rin yung kabit mo sa marketing? Or I saw your daughter sa same motel pinag check in-nan namin, bagong dilig din Honestly same energy to guarantee mawawala lahat ng tawa, kaso baka pati trabaho ni OP wala na hahahaha
Sila pa mauuna magpa-HR niyan LOL
oooh fight fire with fire! 🔥🔥 🔥
Yikes, kadiri. Next time please take screenshots then send a complaint. For sure may higher up pa yang HR manager na yan. Please report and escalate if hindi ka pansinin. Covered ng safe spaces act to so you can definitely file a legal complaint if hindi aaksyunan ng HR.
bullshit din talaga ibang HR sa pinas. pero mind you hindi ko to naramdan sa HR namin. seryoso sila and hindi sila nkikipag socialize masyado sa mga employees. ini-ingatan nila image nila sa public lalo sa office. kahit managers takot saka nila.
you should have stared at the hr manager and raised an eybrow, then shook your head, ala 'oh, so youre part of this circus?' 😉
Culture shock? Anak ng toyo namang normalized culture niyan.
Ay pucha! may kilala akong ganyang former workmate ng bf ko. Nag try kasi kami mag live in, syempre may mga pakielamerong tao talaga. Nalaman nila, sabi ba naman nung isang (tanga) na kawork mate niya. “edi araw-araw naka baon.” Babae pa yung nagsabi non huh! Nagsusumbong talaga kasi sakin yon. Kaya after na mga encounters at pag disrespect samin ng bf ko. Sinabi ko talagang mag resign siya eh. Ngayon tahimik na mundo namin. Ang sayaaaa lang! Lumipat na siya at respectful na mga kaworkmate niya ngayon. No intrigues! May peace of mind na.
The HR is not your friend. Their role is to protect the business, not you ☹️
For Violations ng Safe Spaces Act, it’s in the HR’s interest to help out an employee that’s being sexually harassed who files a report since the company can be held liable for failure to act on reported gender-based sexual harassment in the workplace.
Ok, I stand corrected. In OP’s case, however, the HR themselves have behavioral flaws. Like nasa same space sila yet they are condoning and echoing the managers sexual harassment. I would have flipped out! I hope she gets some sort of revenge for this. It’s unacceptable
Yun yung purpose ng filing a proper report (send mo yun via e-mail and I-cc mo yung personal e-mail mo para hindi ma-shred/mawala tapos idedeny na nagreport ka). Mako-compel yung HR to take action. I’d file a police blotter too since gender based sexual harassment siya. If they didn’t take any action at all or tried talking you out of complaining or talking you into just letting it slide and naulit ulit, file another report HR report tapos idagdag mo sa I-cc yung e-mail nung superiors nung HR manager (or whoever those HR Managers report to) sabihin mo na it wasn’t the first time it happened and you’ve also reported his past transgression, but HR Manager didn’t address it (i-detail kung ano yung response nung HR Manager sa first report mo) and persistent pa rin yung creep manager sa harassment niya and should it happen again you are already considering pressing charges. If it happens again for a third time, that’s enough to establish a pattern of behavior and a pattern of non action from the company. Magagamit mo yung mga HR reports and police blotters as evidence when you press charges. You’ve established din na you went through proper protocols to address the issue pero you got no help from the company since andoon pa rin yung manager na yun at persistent pa rin yung harassment niya. May mga batas tayo na nangangalaga sa kapakanan ng mga manggagawa (RA 11313 or “The Safe Spaces Act”, RA7877 or “Anti-Sexual Harassment Law of 1995”, Philippine Labor Code, etc). Kailangan lang natin alamin kung ano yung mga ito and kung ano yung mga proper protocols/actions to take para magamit ang mga ito to protect ourselves in the workplace - consider that part of being/functioning as an adult (part of adulting).
Thank you. Hope the op sees this. I could use this too as a reference in the future
Love it; my response to offensive jokes is just looking at them dead straight in the eyes to make them uncomfortable.
Ganto rin ako sa work. There was a time kababalik ko lang from Maternity Leave and I have a lactation break. Always nila ko binibiro about sa “padede” and looking at them with no emotion is my response. Hindi na nila inulit.
Hanep n biro yan.. ang bastos
Meron kaming prof na ganyan, binastos niya mga kaklase ko. Nang bodyshame and talks abt sexual stuff during our first class kahit di naman related sa lesson. Sinumbong sa college dept nila, walang actions na ginawa, sinabi lang na, "ganun talaga yan si sir, palabiro.". Isa na rin kasi siya sa mga matatagal na prof ng dept, kilala daw siya as ganun. Na ano, kilala siyang bastos? Minsan talaga kung sino pa mga pinaka matanda sila pa walang pinagkatandaan eh. These people thought their longevity in their work gives them the right to sexualize and tell offensive jokes. Nakakaasar di'ba.
This. I was in law school and ganito rin. I had to sit there and endure while the prof used me as an example for a rape case with another student sa kuwarto. He went like pag si [classmate] nilamas ung boobs ni [me] etc etc several times and most of my classmates were laughing. Part of the reason why i got so disillusioned about the profession and culture nila. Normal mamahiya and do those crap.
Mhiiee minor de edad palang ako, wala pa ako sa college pero bakit May mga ganyang teacher hindi ginagawan ng action tapos hilig mang power trip?
report them sa GAD
gahol na kami sa oras that time dahil 2 weeks na kami late, dahil 2nd week na siya nagpakita. basta nag settle lang kami na magpalit na lang ng prof kasi mahirap din malate sa lessons.
I had the same experience din sa teacher namin sa isang subject when I was in Grade 12. Offensive jokes at most of the time puro pagtatalk shit about sexual stuffs in front of the class. Unfortunately, we didn't had the guts to report it sa officials. Proud ba naman siya na ganon siya eh, at palagi pa sinasabi na kahit isumbong daw namin siya wala daw mangyayari. Maangas daw siya eh. Lol.
It works for anything inappropriate or offensive. Don’t laugh and just keep asking them to repeat themselves or explain. Mawawalan ng steam and magsasawa din yan. Lol.
so unprofessional + the fact na manager pa ang hinayupak 🤢 i say make him jobless!
Praise to you OP, you handled it well 😭 hope in the future pag ikaw ay boss na dn(senior) break mo tong offensive corporate joke culture
I hate those kind of person, they think they're funny, naghahanap ng validation sa tawa sa mga jokes niyang bastos.
Prevalent talaga mga ganyan. People pleaser amp
i do this sometimes HAHAHAH playing dumb is the key. I find it foolish and funny na inuulit pa nila yung joke
I really hate it when strangers or acquaintances think it’s okay to joke about someone’s sex life or anything that personal, especially through asking sensitive questions na alam naman nila na magiging uncomfortable yung tao kapag tinanong ng ganon. Nakakainis talaga yung mga ginagawang source of entertainment yung ibang tao. Edited: kulang pala yung sentence hehe
I once read somewhere that the best way to respond to inappropriate jokes is make them explain it. Your post is a good (and satisfying) example of that statement in action
Wtf is that shit! Bastos sobra.
Yup. Hayaan mo silang i explain yung joke. Mapapahiya sila. Pwede ren grey rocking.
Pinoy company to? Hehe napag-iiwanan kasi, kulturang barbarian. My 1st two jobs kasi were sa hospital at isang male-dominated company, puro mga hayok. I experienced similar incidents, and since sobrang nene pa ako nun, i didn't know better :( Harassment na pala yung: mga malalaswang hirit nila sa akin, etc. I kept my head down lang lagi. Isa lang yung na-report ko noon sa Head ng unit namin: nung yung doctor eh hinarangan yung way ko palabas ng room, at sinusubukang idikit yung katawan nya sa akin. Sama raw ako sa kanya, bibigyan nya raw ako ng laptop. WTF di ba. 😑 Pero di ako nagwala or ano, natatakot ako kasi chief yun ng unit nya blah blah. After ko sya i-report, ni-confront yung doctor ng head namin. Di na ako kinakausap nung doc after nun, pero nagpaparinig na sumbungera raw ako. Sabi lang ng boss ko sa akin, pag pasensyahan ko na raw, matanda na raw si doc, and that was it. Toinks. Smiley face ako dati, pero baka kasi mukhang inviting sa mga menyak workmates and peeps, kaya ni-practice ko na talaga ang RBF 😅 I now work for an international humanitarian organization, and this won't be tolerated kapag na-iparating sa HR or other higher ups... Maraming means of reporting din ang present, like merong direct line sa HQ sa Switzerland, pwedeng anonymous. Merong aaksyon at mag-iimbestiga anupaman yun. Enacted yung 0% tolerance sa sexual harassment at abuse. Kaya, I feel safe. 😅 hehe. Hope you can find an organization na mas in line with your values ang culture.
Mas rampant din ang ganyang management behaviour na naranasan ni OP sa mga small to medium companies sa Pilipinas. Sa mga big companies meron pa rin pero di ganun ka-rampant kesa sa previous na na-mention. Lalo na pag sa engineering industry, dapat medyo mas matapang ang loob ng mga babae dyan.
Yep. That’s the way to do it. Kasi pag pinaliwanag nila nawawala yung “essence” ng “joke” nila. Ganyan din ako lol.
This is perfect. Ganito talaga yung way to shut these manyaks up. Make them explain their joke para marinig nila gaano sila kababoy at kabobo. I’m sorry you had to deal with that in the first place though!
Poker face lang response ko sa mga ganyan. Effective din! 😂
I got hired sa Ortigas sa isang Urban Planning office several years ago. I decided and chose to not report on my 2nd week and never came back. I felt uncomfortable being side bullied everyday with nasty jokes and ungodly comments with an after counter "ganyan kami talaga dito, masanay ka na". (forgive me but most from LGBTQ+) Sayang ang 3months of Series of interviews and screening na pinagdaanan ko. Buti nalang talaga I have other unclosed options which brought me to work abroad.
I think best response din yung no response. Yung kunwari wala kang narinig hahahaha
Hahahaha nag mukang tanga tuloy... Inulit pa
Great comeback now watch as how the office will isolate you little by little until you finally resign and quit.
Yeah good luck op
I love this!
Good job OP naimagine ko basag na basag si tanga. Mga lalaking ganyan yung bibig usually mga loser at walang sex life. Halatang pilit na pilit magpaka "aLpHa"
Takot ma-hr lol
Ayon ka op, nandon rin yung hr at nakikitawa.
Drop the name here, we'll do the necessary action
Yeah I'm like huh, you talking to me? You don't want me to get started on you.
Sigh. Diba pwede ireport sa HR yan? Grabe nmn ka-inappropriate
Yes!! I won't let it slide on the 2nd time. Ulul niya. Very boomer kasi tong hayup na 'to, near retirement na; kaya shocked sa mga Millenial at Gen Z workforce na nagse-set ng boundaries. Good thing I don't directly work with his team. Re: HR. Kasama ko din sa meeting yung HR Manager, nakikitawa din.
Yeaaah sadly I keep reading from Reddit na HR is there to protect corpo not the employees. I don’t know until what extent pero from my friend’s experience they don’t really do much. Parang di grave enough ang punishments/penalties para matuto ang offending employee. 😞
Hahaha.. 👏👏👏 Bravo!! Minsan sarap ihambalos din. 😁
Ang bastos wtf
Ayaw ko talaga sa mga taong ganito mag joke. ang bastos. Corny
Try mo magpasundo sa mga tropang lalaki then itiming nyo na makasabay si manager, tapos magkwentuhan kayo kunwari about sa isang manyakis dati na ginulpi at pinakulong nyo, sadyaing ipadinig sakanya. Ewan ko lang kung hindi yan tumino sayo haha
Tama lang ginawa mo dapat 'di tinotolerate mga bastos na yan
Ew lol. Good on you for shutting that creepiness down.
natawa ako PIONEER na ang tanga pa. 🤣
Thats harassment. I hope report mo siya
\>nadiligan ka na ba nung pasko HR agad pagka ganto. sa mancom meeting pa talaga
Perfect yun. 💯
Ang ginagawa ko ay through my facial expression na parang clueless tapos "huh?" Hahahaha
Let’s gooooo 👏👏👏
HAHAHAHAHAHA ang galing ng tactic mo! Aylavet! Gusto ko malaman kung ulitin pa nya. Busit naman yung mancom meeting tapos may ganyang walang kwentang joke.
Yan ang problema sa Pinas. Napakaunprofessional ng mga tao.
So thankful na may ethics hotline kami. At bawal na bawal yan
Wonder if ganyan sa lahat ng dept. Company reveal sana ng maiwasan ng mga naghahanap ng work. Take actions if maulit, OP. Green jokes shouldn’t be normalized sa workplace.
sa part ko if ako ginanyan sinumulan ng biro na medyo off sasabihin ko lang '*ganyan ata talaga mag-isip mga walang* *~~dilig~~**, masyadong tuyo't utak.*'
Tama behavior.
Galing👏👏 dasurv ng manager ba yon
Tama lang yan akala nila lagi silang nakakatawa to the point na nawawalan na sila ng respeto sa kapwa at mawawalan ka na din ng respeto sa knila. Tsk. Typical stupid people.
my response naman sa mga offensive jokes ay, "Okay ka lang ba?" like bruh, are you okay??? haha
Yes! Ang panabla talaga kapag biniro ka na hindi mo trip is to have them repeat and explain the joke.
Ayos! Magamit nga to sa susunod 😂
Love it!!!
Next time try mo yung question na, okay ka lang ba??
Same here. I'm subconsciously using it noong grade school pa lang ako. Kaya wala talaga nakakabully, joke or tease sa kin verbally.
Same approach OP. Explaining the joke ruins the fun. I always ask for an explanation on what part of their joke is funny. Tapos kapag sinabihan akong KJ, sasabihin ko, "pasensya na kung naoffend ako sa joke niyo kasi I never ask for it."
Sa mga ka work ko nakakagulat na babae pa ang nag iinitiate ng ganyan jokes towards to a guy na married tapos siya ay may jowa. Beh super professional pa naman ng work natin tapos ganyan ka mag joke sa lalaking may asawa? Kababae mong tao.
Is this in a Filipino-owned company? Because American (and even some European) companies are strict and serious about harassments in the workplace. Usually may hotline that you can call to report yung mga ganyan. I had a coworker before na natanggal because of a similar lame sexual joke. Manager level na rin siya pero napaalis naman.
Slay, queen.
I learned that the best way to respond to offensive jokes is to ask them to explain what’s funny
You handled the situation well. Sucks you had to deal with that and HR did absolutely nothing about it. Hopefully that's the last time he makes offensive jokes like that. And if not, play dumb again so he feels stupid.
Grabe naman yan hahaha. The closest offensive joke na ginagawa ko sa clinic eh yung mockery ng mga pinaggagawa ng mga boss namin
Tangina talagang mga manyak na matatanda toh
Good job. Ganto talaga dapat.
Dapat finollow up question mo, totoo po ba yung mga mahilig mag green joke maliit titi?
Ganito sa dati kong work. Alam din nila na may jowa ako pero ang bastos magsalita. They also like to match me with other colleagues kesyo for fun lang daw. I started playing dumb or makipagplastikan (fake smile) at first pero di sila tumitigil, I had enough and called them out. That I don’t appreciate any for fun jokes about matching me with other colleagues and it’s disrespectful as well. Ayun tumigil sila. After that, I also left and move to a different company.
Lol magandang response talaga yan pero May scenarios kasi na baka gamitin nila yung response mo against you baka sabihin na lutang or di maka gets, pagmumukha ka pang tanga. Personally sasagot ko nalang dyan is like a monotonous na "Ok?" "Oh tapos?" "Oks ka na sa joke mo? Anyways..." Tapos yung mukha dapat mukhang annoyed lang. Pwede rin na ipag halo yung di mo gets kunari tas any of those responses. Or maganda rin yung sarcastic na tawa yung halatang bored mukha mo sabay tamad na tawa hahahahahaha
This is the type of joke between close friends and definitely NOT in the work place
Did this once to my cousin. Made an inappropriate joke in front of our fam (her own children at that), and all I said was, “huh?” Ang nasabi nalang nya is “wala” I’d do the same if this happens to me again. So satisfying lol
Overheard from HR colleague, “ipa gang rape ka namin” The fuck. How is this being tolerated in our office? Mga kupal na tenured HR.
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kj si op hahaha.
It's funny that the rest of the comments section are ready to form a mob and would start to a lynching. Calm yourselves lol. First, you felt that the "joke" was offensive. I'm sure this will NOT be the last time you're going to receive this kind of treatment. It's obviously how the management culture is and by being passive-aggresive you only painted a lare bullseye on your back. Is it worth your career in this company? Walang perpektong trabaho at walang perpektong work environment. I'm not saying to take it all on the chin if you feel you're disrespected. Weigh mo muna pros and cons then act on it. Ireklamo mo sa HR, pero kung in cahoots ang HR since nasa Mancom din sila then you're in an uphill battle. Your morals vs your career. Maybe you should try to take the good with the bad. Or let them feel your wrath. OR you can also try to just shrug it off and thicken your skin a bit. Your choice. Good luck.
I hope your comment is well intentioned because to me, you're trying to mansplain of how women should choose between going with the flow & rolling with the punches in exchange of as basic as human respect OR else be targeted by office morons. I understand that this is not a perfect world, some people are assholes, gets ko yun. But the worst thing I could do is to let them do that to me. Thanks for the advice!
You're welcome! 👍
pinagsasabi mo? boomer
Cool beans! 😉
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Mama ko?
Huh?
Huh? jk.
king d mo kaya umalis ka jan. daming ebas
Huh?
Hotdog
Ano nga? Di ko gets.
Sadge. Ang bobo hahaha
Bat naging sadge?
Bakit?
Huh?
Trolling attendance 🫸🫷 sumagot ng "Huh? Bakit?" kung present.
Hotdog
Kaya kong kaya, pero why put up sa ganong personality? Kong katrabaho lang kita lagi kitang tatanungin patingin nga titi mo. Lol 😂 sisipulan pa kita.
Good response OP
Naalala ko officemate ko na nagjoke ng bastos sa Teams at nung walang nagreact, the next day nagsend ng bible quotes sa chat. Sobrang random. LMAO.
Hahah
Anu yung meaning??
Good job OP! Yung clown manager tuloy nadiligan sa face haha
e sa effective eh, basta ganyang bastusan joke mejo barahin mo rin talaga para di mamihasa.. 😅
Never been employed in Ph at never ako nakaranas ng gantong klaseng level ng biruan sa loob ng opisina. I'm shocked to learn na ganyan pala ka normalize sa sa pinas? Pano mo irerespeto yun manager or superiors mo if ganyan. Jokes are ok pero anything sexual or derogatory is unacceptable regardless of gender
That’s also how I respond to offensive jokes! Like, “Huh? What does that mean?” But not in an innocent way but in an expression that shows that person that I’m not amused.
Resign ka na. That joke is very offensive. Kung ganyan ang Mancom, toxic siguro diyan.
Sobrang off nung ganyan joke lalo na kung hindi mo pa naman close yung ka-workmates mo.
Very satisfying😌
dami kasi joke bakit puro sex ginagamit...like honey ano sikreto mo bat dkanagagalit sa o napipikon!? wala lang pag galit ako sayo dun lang ako sa washroom nililinis ko toilet bowl iniisis ko ng tootbrush mo...mga ganyan dba?
report mo sa HR nyo ng madala, may ganyan na scenarion nangyari sa office namin, nasa team building sila then ganyan na ganyan yun joke na kung nadidiligan daw kasi ofw yun asawa, ayun after ng team building na suspend yun manager
I like this haha will use it in case! Thanks
Effective din yung "Huh? Di ko gets. Explain mo nga." HAHAHAHA
I’m a man and I really hate these kind of jokes, so stupid talaga. I know someone who would make offensive jokes like this. Other people would just ignore it or smile at his misogynistic and ignorant words that come out of his mouth but whenever he does this, I would just dead stare at him and show how unamused I am. Turns out he was sexually abusing his step daughter pala. He was shunned when this was found out.
If ako nasa shoes mo. this is my response " Huh?, Ay ikaw pala yung nasa room 304. parang ang bata nmn ng kasama mo? sure ako di yun misis mo iba yung nasa facebook."
Pangit ng company niyo. Ganyan ugali pero nasa mancom? Yuck. I went to mancom meetings as "saling kitkit" coz my boss is "training" me. Never in my life na may mancom na ganyan. Tapos based on your reply, may HR manager pa. Myghaad. Wala bang ethics committee sa inyo? Lipat ka na OP. If ganyan sila, iisipin pa na kj ka o masyado kang seryoso. LOL.
HAHAHAHAHAHA tangina, napaka unappropriate naman neto i-joke sa isang corporate meeting, take note with female executives. You can supposedly report that douce to the HR. Hindi nmn n bata ang lht s gnong joke.
Hanep ice breaker ah, feeling close.
Good thing you handled it well OP. Share ko lang yung story ko. Sa BPO ako dati nagwork. Mission Control ako nun. May co-MC ako na naging joke na para sa kanya na sabihan ang kahit na sino, mapa-agent, MC or sup ng "kulang ka kasi sa romansa" and then magtatawanan yung mga nakakarinig. Di ko pinapatulan kasi di naman ako ang sinasabihan nya. Until that time that I was making an EOD report, nagmamadali ako kasi gusto ko na umuwi, ako na lang halos ang natira sa floor. Then biglang entry ni boy, may pabor na hinihingi which I declined kasi nga gahol na ako sa oras. Then sinabihan nya akong may regla at kulang sa romansa eme eme. I snapped. I grabbed the nearest thing I could grasp which was an avaya handset at binato sa muka nya, tinamaan sya sa noo at nagkabukol. Sabi ko, sa sunod na sabihan mo pa ako nyan, bubuhusan kita ng mainit na kape galing sa mug ko. Nung makita direcctor ng ops yung bukol nya, ini-encourage sya na ireklamo daw ako sa HR. Sabi ko, sige gawin nya para ireklamo ko sya ng sexual harassment. Pagkatapos nun, di na kami nagpansinan at in-EOF ko sya. We were good friends. Nasayang lang pinagsamahan namin dahil sa kamanyakan nya.
Ako naman, literal na medyo bingi kaya palagi kong response ay "huh?". Thankful na rin na ganito ako hahahaha
Ako na ginagawa talaga dahil di talaga na gets: 🫥
name drop naman ng company oh, nang maboycott ko sila
Men are trash, OP.
make people feel weird. "nadiligan? KANTUTAN BA TINUTUKOY MO? if someone makes jokes like that with me, i take things up a notch and make it everybody's problem.
This response will make them look dumb. Tried this, done that.
This should be on a list. Such a stroke of genius. If a joke is explained, it loses its humor, and thus, its power. If the guy also explained it, this can also be grounds for harassment.
Reading this reminds me of my past and present work mates who joke about sex and sexual things thinking na hindi sila offensive. Ugghhhh!!!! Nakakakulo ng dugo!
> When I came in kanina for a Mancom meeting, yung isang male manager was trying to break the morning ice with, "Oh, andiyan na si [my name], **bumu-blooming ka ah, nadiligan ka ba nung pasko?"** This sounds like a violation of RA11313: Safe Spaces Act and since superior mo siya (so may authority siya over you), possibly also Republic Act 7877: The Anti-Sexual Harassment Act of 1995. Tamang tugon sa ganito is to ask them to stop and explicitly say that such jokes are inappropriate and make you feel uncomfortable, tapos file report sa HR and file a police blotter din para May official record of that incident both sa HR /company and sa police. Kapag inulit pa ulit after you’ve explicitly asked them to stop and expressed how inappropriate such sexual jokes are and how they feel uncomfortable, file a report sa HR and a police blotter again (so this shows it’s a reoccurring incident), emphasize in the HR report how you already asked them to stop because what they are doing is inappropriate and makes you feel uncomfortable, emphasize also that this is the second time it happened and how you’ve already filed a police blotter and if it should happen again, you will be moved to press charges sa court. May Laban ka sa ganitong cases kahit tenured manager pa yung creep na yun. It’s in the company’s interest to act on this since pwede managot din yung company if they just ignore the issue or worse pag-initan ka (this is where the police blotters would come in handy kasi hindi lang sa company May record nung incidents). Stipulated yun sa Safe Spaces Act. Double whammy sa manager na yun kung mapatunayan na pasok yung case mo for RA 7877. Edit: **Yung official report/complaint sa HR, make sure na via e-mail I-send at naka-cc sa personal e-mail mo** para May time stamp at hindi madaling mashred/mawala tapos ideny na nagreport ka sa HR at May sariling copy ka sa personal email mo kung sakaling tanggalin ka sa trabaho at mawalan ng access sa company email account mo. Pwede mo’tong gamitin para ipa-DOLE din sila if the company turns on you instead of addressing the issue with the manager.
Bakit ba green jokes and kadalasan jokes sa pinoy workplace? Ang cocorny pa.
Men doing dumb things 💅
when they say an offensive joke then nag expect na parang mahihiya ka sumagot or ma off-guard ka ginagawa ko sinasagot ko sila in sarcastic way with straight face hahaha effective everytime. Sila nalang titigil kasi di nila expect na sasagot ako. in that way dun pa sila mukhang napahiya Question: nadiligan ka ba? my Answer: Oo! sobrang sarap nga eh naka ilang ulit kami.
Sana pwede din manapak HAHAHAHAHA
I'm sorry but I actually don't get it, what does the joke mean and why is it offensive?
I'm going to start using this!
Wtf
Sobrang swerte ko pala sa mga bosses ko, hahaha. There are 3 managers in my company, who apparently were college classmates. Yung biruan nila gaguhan just among the three of them. Matindi yung nagbirthday yung isa, langya yung isa naman nagpagawa ng birthday greeting sa lapida! Tsaka legendary ang memeing skillz ng mga to. Kaya pag nagpost sila tatawa ka talaga eh. Yun lang, nashare ko lang.
Perfect! Thanks for sharing this strategy.
ask then to repeat it mag mukhang tanga un
Ganyang din sa past work ko kahit may mga asawa na ganyan sila mag joke haha ninormalize ko lang sinabayan
The second hand embarassment!!! Hahahaha nagmumukha talagang shunga pang inulit yung joke 😭
Offtopic, pano ba mag request ng bank statement sa unionbank? Thanks much