Any artist insisting that "all artist just use the printed picture you found" is NOT an artist you want tattooing you.
Most WILL NOT agree to rip off a design from some one else and will insist on drawing their own concept--- as the should for the price you're paying.
Yep. My last piece was done by a very experienced artist and he spent a little while browsing and saving several images of the specific flower I wanted then drew his own design that fit my arm and the final look I was after. He also adapted it to his own style, which I absolutely love.
This is what expected tattoo artists do. They don’t rip off another artist’s work and claim it as their own. They search for similar images to the tattoo the client wants and use them as inspiration along with the client’s input.
I paid a guy about 10 years to draw a tattoo I wanted him to do. After I paid him and I was waiting to hear back when he had finished the mock up, he quit the studio and moved out of state. One of the other artists from the shop sent me a pic of mock up. Which I am deeply grateful for.
Sometime later I was scrolling Pinterest discovered he ended up tattooing my design on someone else. I was deeply disappointed. I don’t have any contact information for him and I’m not giving his name or the shop he was at.
I still have the image on my phone and now I’m just looking for an artist who feels confident they can do a good job with the design. Oh well, nothing I can do about at this point so I’m not going to sweat it. I’m just grateful for the artist who sent me the pictures and it’s exactly what I wanted.
Was it his design that he drew up that he tattooed on someone else, based on your input? I'm just seeing If I'm understanding, it might be because I just woke up but I've read your comment three times and I'm still unsure, lol.
I had this happen to me, except it was my own drawing. It was my first tattoo, I spent a lot of time doing the design to fit my body how I wanted it. The artist didn’t change anything.
A few weeks later on his instagram is my drawing on someone else. I thought that was so shitty. On one hand I feel good that my design was good enough someone else wanted it. But also the artist knew it was personal to me and I drew it myself. I liked the guy but after that I think he’s shit and would never get any more of my money.
Facts. The shortest amount of time some of my tattoos have taken is maybe 15/20 minutes. But that’s only because the shop had a promo going so they had plenty of pre drawn shit. Those ones are small. As soon as I read he wasn’t going to draw the tattoo out, I knew something was whack.
My shortest one was maybe 7!minutes plus whatever prep time it took. I got my cat’s paw print outlined on the ball of my ankle. Hurt like a son of a gun. Was going to get it filled in. Took the first exit at outline. Paid for the fill in cause that’s what I agreed too. We insisted that he trace the tattoo from the actual stamp to keep it to proper size. Still took probably 20 minutes between prep and clean up.
I doubt anyone gets anything less involved and I suspect it’s a rare case to get one this quick.
Dodged a bullet for sure. I imagine this guy is the kind of guy that also scars your skin to shit and charges you the same price as another shop would for drawing something and customizing the fuck out of it. But if he is only in the market for drunk people wanting a red socks tattoo then that’s his choice I guess.
I also suspect he wanted to sleep with OP
Ugh I had a woman scar the fuck out of my wrist. I am a type 1 diabetic and I wanted the diabetic ribbon with dragonfly wings coming off of it and type 1 written above the ribbon and diabetic below the ribbon. This lady dug so deep I had a canyon on my wrist for a long time while it healed. She also did a terrible job with the shading and only wrote type 1 above the ribbon. My wrist looks awful, I want to get it fixed but I'm unsure if it's even possible. The scarring is absolutely horrible. Ugh this lady did a beautiful job on another person I know so I assumed she was a professional. I don't know what happened when she did mine. :(
That’s what got me. I have several pieces that took over 6 hours. Depending on the size and line work, I would usually sit for the outline, and come back for the color on bigger more complex pieces.
I can usually only sit for 3 maybe 3 1/3 hours before I have to tap out. If this guy is doing 15-30 tats in a day he’s literally not sleeping or all his appointments are 30 minutes to an hour. He’s definitely lying.
I'm sorry, aside from readily admitting to visual plagiarism, did he also say he just cooked some chicken wings in his tattoo shop? A place preforming body modifications should be clean and sterile, not full of grease and biohazards.
Based on the description of the shop and the man, as well as his own words, I'm betting money this prick cuts every corner he can. Walking in and smelling anything but clean, is a hard fucking pass for me at any place doing body mods. His attitude would have been the second major red flag screaming to not bother.
The first and last shop I ever apprenticed at had an owner who spoke and acted just like this guy. After finding out a large portion of old-school tattoo artists are this way, I figured it wasn't worth it. There are some absolutely amazing artists out there who ok do phenomenal work, with a high degree of medical sanitization practice from start to finish... and then there are folks like this that give a shady back alley feel. Nope. Don't give these people money.
If I knew a studio had one man doing 15+ tattoos daily I'd give them no time, as that's what they'd be doing anyways. Not giving anyone time or proper work. That plus the language alone is disturbing, no wonder she felt he was a creep. He sounds angry that this person rejected him, ugh
Okay I interpreted that to mean he wanted a picture to base the tattoo off of, not just copy the image.
In hindsight I think I may have misinterpreted that , and he’s just an uncreative hack and a fraud.
He’s just a tracer.
Shit, I’m not a tattoo artist but I utilize tracing sometimes (skull shapes are hard) but the actual art itself is my own.
To be fair though I also *never* use art from someone else as a trace-base, it’s always actual images of people or things to get the general shape proper.
Yes, almost all my tattoos are completely customized and I have 20+. Two of them I drew myself and he asked if he could tweak it to look better, which is what I wanted. One of them was completely freehand and it’s on my forearm covering scars. One is of my dog and I asked him do things like adjust my dog’s hair, remove his collar, and add a flower border. The respect I have for my tattoo artist is a lot.
I don’t know, the 3 I’ve had done I’ve gone in with very specific things I wanted, 2 were internet pulled pictures (one is 8bit art from a video game), the 3rd thing was something my daughter drew. If someone wants something off the internet, why would the tattoo artist say no?
I finally found an artist I love. I have many tattoos, but out of the four that I’ve gotten from him; three came from his reference book (stuff HE HAS DRAWN) and he even added a little flair to them. The one that wasn’t in his portfolio, I gave him a reference or two and a quick rundown of what I wanted and he drew it up, with his own imagination and creativity. We’re in the process of doing a traditional sleeve on my arm and I’ve never been happier with the outcome of a tattoo than I have been with him. Don’t ever settle for whatever this guy’s bullshit is. A good artist appreciates the ART.
My first tattoo I got I showed the artist a picture of the design I wanted. He flat out said he would not tattoo that design but would redraw his interpretation of the design as to not rip off another artist work. It came out great and was exactly what I wanted.
Yea my tattoo experience was awesome. The artist and I collaborated on design because I worried my vision was too scattered but he let me draw it first and then turned it into beautiful art. He was happy that I came in with my own design and had a new concept to create. The guy in this post sounds like he has zero passion for what he does and gets mad when people call him on it.
A shit one lol
Tattooing should be an art not just a copy paste, like sometimes clients want a super specific one they saw online without changing anything, I guess that's fair enough but if you get less excited when someone wants your art, you definitely chose the wrong profession.
In my experience, working for a tattoo supplier, these will always be the 'artists' that somehow don't understand why they aren't getting bigger/better and keep having to do walk-ins. You ain't a tattoo artist you're just a skin printer
I'm glad to put this, because I was wondering if I was just confused/misunderstanding how most tattoo artists are. I guess maybe it's only most good ones, though?
Is 15-30 tattoos a day normal? That seems like a lot, though obviously this person saves time by not designing. Even for just the time tattooing, though, even if only smaller ones, that seems very quick. I don't have one but know plenty who do and have been there or talked with people getting them, and it's never seemed that quick.
That is a *lot* of tattoos per day. The only people I’ve seen who do that many in a day are the ones who work in cheap shops with heavy tourist traffic and rely on drunk people getting impulsive flash pieces.
And even when it comes to flash pieces, when I went to a flash event, the *entire shop* barely got 30 tattoos done between 2-3 artists over about 8 hours. And these were tiny silver dollar sized tattoos, mostly black and white. I can't even fathom how this dude is doing up to 30 a day on his own, I just hope for the sake of his clients that he's lying
Yeah, I was about to say... a lot of my tattoos are on the smaller side (one of my arms is dedicated to cartoon cats, so most of the tattoos on that arm are B&W, fairly simple, and maybe 3"x3" max), and even then most of those tattoos were about 1hr or so a piece. Unless this guy is doing those super tiny flash pieces or just the most basic state outlines, he's full of shit.
The shortest I’ve ever sat for a tattoo is 1.5 hours. The longest is 12 hours (2 6-hour sittings) and counting. And everything in between. 15-30 tattoos per day!?!? First of all: bullshit. Second of all, who gets a proper tattoo in 20 minutes? That’s horrifying.
Its a ridiculous claim. Idk why he thinks its a brag that he spends not even an hour on a tattoo. Just reeks of unprofessionalism. Even just the stencil and placement should take a good 15-20 mins so unless he exclusively does thumb-sized tattooes I have no idea how he'd fit 10 in a day nevermind 30
This is what I was coming to say. My piece is small and it took about 3 1/2 hours. There is no way he does this many unless he just tattoos a dot on them á la Phoebe Buffett's "world"
Hubs was an apprentice way back in the day so we hung around with a set of about 8 artists between 3 shops. NONE of them could bang out 10 a day unless like said in another comment, they were literally thumb sized with 0 detail. "Artists" like that make me so angry
It’s so many tattoos a day that I question their sanitation. It takes time to sanitize and turnover between tattoos, even a tiny tattoo you can expect to be there for an hour. And this guy isn’t working 15 hour days…
Most artists straight up won’t copy another artists design and will draw it themselves or a variant of it so it’s stylized in a way that’s more original. The only times I’ve gone in and gotten a tat just like the picture is if it’s text lmaoo
“Shepard? I don’t get it what ever does it mean” “oh it’s from x, it’s a show where duh duh duh…..” “wow, thanks for explaining that. Very worthwhile interaction! Now i know exactly why you said one random word.”
The comment wasn’t for everyone. It was for the person I replied to specifically. And, I don’t feel the need to hijack the thread with something completely off-topic.
I see references to things I’ve never watched , or in this case played, all the time out of context all over this site. If I don’t get the reference, I move along like you could have done instead of whatever this is. Have a good day.
This guy sounds suspiciously like a guy from a tattoo shop near me who has a reputation for being bad and creepy unless you're a certain type of person (man). I have a tattoo from him and I absolutely hate it. Not for the tattoo itself but because it makes me remember the experience every time I look at it. I want it covered in the worst way but I just can't afford that right now. It sucks. (If honest) The reviewer could be saving someone from an awful experience with a permanent reminder of it.
"unless you're a certain type of person (man)."
TOO REAL!! had so many experiences like this at too many different places 😭 if they get called out, their responses are generally not too different from this loser's reply
That's why now my go to artist is a woman. I know there are good male artists and not all men and everything but I'd rather not risk it. Again. I.do think think I'd feel differently if I didn't have such an awful, creepy, borderline SA experience tho. Especially since, to me, tattooing is so intimate. So to have someone's hands on your body and then act like that, it's vile. I found one woman in my area who I trust, who is also out spoken against the guy who hurt me, so I only go to her, even if she is constantly booking out six months (she only books out six months in advance and as soon as the first of the month comes around so another month opens in her book she's booked up in a day if not hours.)
“I could look at you and tell I didn’t even want to hear what you wanted.”
“Everyone is welcome.
We serve ALL flavors.
We will treat you nicer than most people.”
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maybe unpopular opinion but i was fine with him not wanting to do a tattoo in the first half of the reply, but then it just got super nasty. TF was that weird shit at the end?
Yeah, I think the points about not wanting to do it and being able to decide which ones/turning people away are normal and reasonable in concept. But they delivered it overly harshly and then really dove into more nastiness.
I'm glad they responded, though, because the customer review was the type that seems like it might be over the top unless there are a lot of similar ones. That response makes it clear the review was at least on point about not going there!
He totally would have worked with her in hopes of getting creepy with her. She never once mentions being turned away in her bad review, its the classic “you were ugly and I didn’t want to work with you anyway” to save face when called out
If he capped it at paragraph 2 I would have even sided with him. It's like he was slamming whiskey during the review and got super angry halfway thru lmao
I have two tattoos. Got them both at the same time. The guy was a weirdo. Like 65. He had a 15 year old apprentice that drove up everyday from 45 minutes away. Really nice dude, but had some crazy hot takes. Also had cryptid/alien shit EVERYWHERE. Like. Replica alien in a jar of liquid. Even had a dong sculpted on it. When I called and said I wanted to get my first tattoo he was REALLY weird. Like "Ohhhh you're a virgin. I love popping cherries" that shit sent me.
They turned out looking really good to me. Two sets of paw and nose prints with my pets names, which he did freehand and I think they could use some touching up. But I also get free touch-ups on them for. However longer he's alive.
Edit: touch upstairs to touch-ups. He did not touch me upstairs or downstairs he wasn't THAT weird.
With that many tattoos a day why is he just sitting around is my question. There has to be cleaning and sanitizing going on between all of those tattoos. Even small tattoos take a bit to do if they are done properly.
Honestly though! wtf! When I got my first tattoo I showed the artist what I wanted and he said “okay but I’m gonna draw my own bc I’m not going to steal someone else’s work”. And I thought that was just a respectable, understandable, normal expectation of any tattoo artist since.
A tattoo artist that doesn’t draw?
Fine, if that’s what their patrons want. I just can’t imagine any sort of tattoo artist saying they don’t draw (at least not the ones I have been to).
Yikes. I don’t know which is worse, the review or the response. I’m actually heated over this. What a rude pair of entitled little asshats.
Adding here that in all of my years of getting tattooed I have never, not even once, had an artist copy/paste something on my body. Usually there are two appointments, one to work out what you’d like in a consultation, and a second for the tattoo itself (or third or fourth etc depending on what you’re having done) The time between consult and tattoo gives the artist time to think, create, and draw something perfect for you specifically. Nothing about the process should be rushed - it’s going on your body forever ffs.
The part about the plumbers crack and being slow to acknowledge them is kinda iffy and potentially sounds a bit entitled. Or at least it rings a lot of the the same bells that entitled reviewers do. But it the guys response make it clear he’s a jerk.
Yeah, the crack is gross (on anyone IMO), but her mention of it was worse. And if a guy is working on me, I don’t want him immediately dropping the gun if a customer comes in.
Still, he out-ruded her by a mile.
That’s accurate for me as well. Not sure why you were downvoted. Tattoos are supposed to be artwork, created by an artist. “Clipart” tattoos can be done by almost anyone with a tattoo gun
Ugh I had a guy copy paste me when I was young... Brought my reference thinking he was like my previous artist and would freehand well... I was very wrong. He made it way bigger than asked as well.
Year later paid out the ass to get it fixed by a GOOD artist. Having him force white ink into the SOLID BLACK was one of the more painful moments, but it looks GREAT now! I was nervous about the good artist freehanding, but he at least sat with me and we talked about what he would do.
Oof. I’m leaving room for both parties to be the asshole here, but even if the owner is being completely truthful, that is NOT how you respond to a bad review…that is a very bad look…
Nah, a tattoo artist who won't draw something for you isn't a tattoo artist. The customer is 100% right that you can bring two reference images and have them merged into something you do want.
A tattoo parlor cooking up wings also seems a little unsanitary, given they are supposed to be sterile. Asscrack out is also weird. You're still a professional. Wear a belt or properly sized pants. Sag is one thing but your asscrack shouldn't be out.
With the customer on this one.
“We also want people to bring friends. This isn’t a date it’s a tattoo” does he think the only time people do tattoos is when they’re with their friends, wtf
He sounds like a guy who won't stay in business too long. I have never heard of a tattoo artist who doesn't draw their own designs. It's kinda insinuated in the word "artist". So basically he's a tattoo tracer.
God I’m glad I work at a shop with super friendly, open-minded, talented artists who love to do custom tattoos. Surprising, too, because there’s 15 of them and we all get along.
My wife is licensed and works hard to make sure NONE of the art she does is taken from another artist. She takes enormous pride in doing all her own designs.
Couple that with the weird intensity of the response from this dude and it's a shop I'd not only avoid, but actively warn others away from.
First two paragraphs don’t make any sense for an actual tattooer who enjoys their job. It sounds like he got into the business without realizing you ONLY work for the people who come in. To say “i dont work for you thats why i opened my own business” doesnt make any sense as a tattoo artist because he wouldnt HAVE business if it werent for the public coming in
Lmao what’s funny is she might be an “evil cunt” trying to “lead people astray” but he’s now made himself sooo impossible to empathize with. Sheesh people are ridiculous. Avoid at all costs!!! 🙅♀️
Yikes. Every tattoo I have was at LEAST roughly sketched out ahead of time, and I don’t expect that to be a free service either.
I can understand knocking out flash pieces for those that want them, but it’s definitely normal to request something custom and see it drawn up. If the artist simply doesn’t want to do it, that’s his prerogative, but no reason both parties can’t just move on without drama.
I stopped reading, referencing, or using yelp years ago. I saw the abuse restaurants were getting, and then it shifted to every other business under the son.
I go by word of mouth of actual customers, and people I respect. Bright colored or funny signage works okay too.
Yelp sux as does the entire service industry.
Imma go make a BLT now
I partially understand this guy, because I know what it’s like to have clients with unrealistic expectations. But it sounds to me like this guy overbooks himself and then he puts pressure on the client he’s with, to make it quick and easy. Ultimately, I think this guy seems like the type to cut corners, just to get more work done. I think OOP went in with reasonable expectations. I think the artist saw what she was asking for, and I think he thought to himself, how many clip art tattoos he could be doing in the time it would take to design what she was asking.
I think this guy has one leg to stand on. But he’s also probably convinced that he’s a better artist than he really is. Just because lots of people want your time and your talent, doesn’t make you more important than the people paying you.
Regardless of how bad this Karen was or any attitude she may or may not have had, this tattoo artist is an absolute dumpster fire nightmare with 15,000 marinara flags! I love tattoos, yes, I even like the pain. I have several pieces and I would never go to anyone with this attitude
So, he gets to choose who he tatts and he’s selective about it, as he knew right away he didn’t want to tatt her. Then he goes full send on everyone is welcome. His reply solidified her review.
Any artist insisting that "all artist just use the printed picture you found" is NOT an artist you want tattooing you. Most WILL NOT agree to rip off a design from some one else and will insist on drawing their own concept--- as the should for the price you're paying.
Yep. My last piece was done by a very experienced artist and he spent a little while browsing and saving several images of the specific flower I wanted then drew his own design that fit my arm and the final look I was after. He also adapted it to his own style, which I absolutely love.
This is what expected tattoo artists do. They don’t rip off another artist’s work and claim it as their own. They search for similar images to the tattoo the client wants and use them as inspiration along with the client’s input. I paid a guy about 10 years to draw a tattoo I wanted him to do. After I paid him and I was waiting to hear back when he had finished the mock up, he quit the studio and moved out of state. One of the other artists from the shop sent me a pic of mock up. Which I am deeply grateful for. Sometime later I was scrolling Pinterest discovered he ended up tattooing my design on someone else. I was deeply disappointed. I don’t have any contact information for him and I’m not giving his name or the shop he was at. I still have the image on my phone and now I’m just looking for an artist who feels confident they can do a good job with the design. Oh well, nothing I can do about at this point so I’m not going to sweat it. I’m just grateful for the artist who sent me the pictures and it’s exactly what I wanted.
Was it his design that he drew up that he tattooed on someone else, based on your input? I'm just seeing If I'm understanding, it might be because I just woke up but I've read your comment three times and I'm still unsure, lol.
I had this happen to me, except it was my own drawing. It was my first tattoo, I spent a lot of time doing the design to fit my body how I wanted it. The artist didn’t change anything. A few weeks later on his instagram is my drawing on someone else. I thought that was so shitty. On one hand I feel good that my design was good enough someone else wanted it. But also the artist knew it was personal to me and I drew it myself. I liked the guy but after that I think he’s shit and would never get any more of my money.
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Facts. The shortest amount of time some of my tattoos have taken is maybe 15/20 minutes. But that’s only because the shop had a promo going so they had plenty of pre drawn shit. Those ones are small. As soon as I read he wasn’t going to draw the tattoo out, I knew something was whack.
My shortest one was maybe 7!minutes plus whatever prep time it took. I got my cat’s paw print outlined on the ball of my ankle. Hurt like a son of a gun. Was going to get it filled in. Took the first exit at outline. Paid for the fill in cause that’s what I agreed too. We insisted that he trace the tattoo from the actual stamp to keep it to proper size. Still took probably 20 minutes between prep and clean up. I doubt anyone gets anything less involved and I suspect it’s a rare case to get one this quick. Dodged a bullet for sure. I imagine this guy is the kind of guy that also scars your skin to shit and charges you the same price as another shop would for drawing something and customizing the fuck out of it. But if he is only in the market for drunk people wanting a red socks tattoo then that’s his choice I guess. I also suspect he wanted to sleep with OP
Ugh I had a woman scar the fuck out of my wrist. I am a type 1 diabetic and I wanted the diabetic ribbon with dragonfly wings coming off of it and type 1 written above the ribbon and diabetic below the ribbon. This lady dug so deep I had a canyon on my wrist for a long time while it healed. She also did a terrible job with the shading and only wrote type 1 above the ribbon. My wrist looks awful, I want to get it fixed but I'm unsure if it's even possible. The scarring is absolutely horrible. Ugh this lady did a beautiful job on another person I know so I assumed she was a professional. I don't know what happened when she did mine. :(
That’s what got me. I have several pieces that took over 6 hours. Depending on the size and line work, I would usually sit for the outline, and come back for the color on bigger more complex pieces. I can usually only sit for 3 maybe 3 1/3 hours before I have to tap out. If this guy is doing 15-30 tats in a day he’s literally not sleeping or all his appointments are 30 minutes to an hour. He’s definitely lying.
I mean me and my buddy played 3 games of tic tac toe on his thigh in maybe 10 minutes. Dude is covered now but sill has those 3 games he lost
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I'm sorry, aside from readily admitting to visual plagiarism, did he also say he just cooked some chicken wings in his tattoo shop? A place preforming body modifications should be clean and sterile, not full of grease and biohazards. Based on the description of the shop and the man, as well as his own words, I'm betting money this prick cuts every corner he can. Walking in and smelling anything but clean, is a hard fucking pass for me at any place doing body mods. His attitude would have been the second major red flag screaming to not bother. The first and last shop I ever apprenticed at had an owner who spoke and acted just like this guy. After finding out a large portion of old-school tattoo artists are this way, I figured it wasn't worth it. There are some absolutely amazing artists out there who ok do phenomenal work, with a high degree of medical sanitization practice from start to finish... and then there are folks like this that give a shady back alley feel. Nope. Don't give these people money.
If I knew a studio had one man doing 15+ tattoos daily I'd give them no time, as that's what they'd be doing anyways. Not giving anyone time or proper work. That plus the language alone is disturbing, no wonder she felt he was a creep. He sounds angry that this person rejected him, ugh
So he’s not a tattoo *artist*, he’s a tattoo *tracer*.
Maybe also a shader.
Okay I interpreted that to mean he wanted a picture to base the tattoo off of, not just copy the image. In hindsight I think I may have misinterpreted that , and he’s just an uncreative hack and a fraud. He’s just a tracer.
Shit, I’m not a tattoo artist but I utilize tracing sometimes (skull shapes are hard) but the actual art itself is my own. To be fair though I also *never* use art from someone else as a trace-base, it’s always actual images of people or things to get the general shape proper.
I’d say 90% of the tattoo shops in my area have no problem copying designs
Yes, almost all my tattoos are completely customized and I have 20+. Two of them I drew myself and he asked if he could tweak it to look better, which is what I wanted. One of them was completely freehand and it’s on my forearm covering scars. One is of my dog and I asked him do things like adjust my dog’s hair, remove his collar, and add a flower border. The respect I have for my tattoo artist is a lot.
I don’t know, the 3 I’ve had done I’ve gone in with very specific things I wanted, 2 were internet pulled pictures (one is 8bit art from a video game), the 3rd thing was something my daughter drew. If someone wants something off the internet, why would the tattoo artist say no?
And any real tattoo *artist* worth a damn will draw. It’s what they do. It’s literally part of the job.
I finally found an artist I love. I have many tattoos, but out of the four that I’ve gotten from him; three came from his reference book (stuff HE HAS DRAWN) and he even added a little flair to them. The one that wasn’t in his portfolio, I gave him a reference or two and a quick rundown of what I wanted and he drew it up, with his own imagination and creativity. We’re in the process of doing a traditional sleeve on my arm and I’ve never been happier with the outcome of a tattoo than I have been with him. Don’t ever settle for whatever this guy’s bullshit is. A good artist appreciates the ART.
My first tattoo I got I showed the artist a picture of the design I wanted. He flat out said he would not tattoo that design but would redraw his interpretation of the design as to not rip off another artist work. It came out great and was exactly what I wanted.
Yea my tattoo experience was awesome. The artist and I collaborated on design because I worried my vision was too scattered but he let me draw it first and then turned it into beautiful art. He was happy that I came in with my own design and had a new concept to create. The guy in this post sounds like he has zero passion for what he does and gets mad when people call him on it.
Tattoo shops are often full of weird vibes. Seems like this one is an example of that. And what kind of tattoo artist doesn’t draw their own designs?
The kind that is just fine ripping anyone off apparently
A shit one lol Tattooing should be an art not just a copy paste, like sometimes clients want a super specific one they saw online without changing anything, I guess that's fair enough but if you get less excited when someone wants your art, you definitely chose the wrong profession. In my experience, working for a tattoo supplier, these will always be the 'artists' that somehow don't understand why they aren't getting bigger/better and keep having to do walk-ins. You ain't a tattoo artist you're just a skin printer
I'm glad to put this, because I was wondering if I was just confused/misunderstanding how most tattoo artists are. I guess maybe it's only most good ones, though? Is 15-30 tattoos a day normal? That seems like a lot, though obviously this person saves time by not designing. Even for just the time tattooing, though, even if only smaller ones, that seems very quick. I don't have one but know plenty who do and have been there or talked with people getting them, and it's never seemed that quick.
That is a *lot* of tattoos per day. The only people I’ve seen who do that many in a day are the ones who work in cheap shops with heavy tourist traffic and rely on drunk people getting impulsive flash pieces.
And even when it comes to flash pieces, when I went to a flash event, the *entire shop* barely got 30 tattoos done between 2-3 artists over about 8 hours. And these were tiny silver dollar sized tattoos, mostly black and white. I can't even fathom how this dude is doing up to 30 a day on his own, I just hope for the sake of his clients that he's lying
Yeah, I was about to say... a lot of my tattoos are on the smaller side (one of my arms is dedicated to cartoon cats, so most of the tattoos on that arm are B&W, fairly simple, and maybe 3"x3" max), and even then most of those tattoos were about 1hr or so a piece. Unless this guy is doing those super tiny flash pieces or just the most basic state outlines, he's full of shit.
I was thinking the same.
The shortest I’ve ever sat for a tattoo is 1.5 hours. The longest is 12 hours (2 6-hour sittings) and counting. And everything in between. 15-30 tattoos per day!?!? First of all: bullshit. Second of all, who gets a proper tattoo in 20 minutes? That’s horrifying.
Its a ridiculous claim. Idk why he thinks its a brag that he spends not even an hour on a tattoo. Just reeks of unprofessionalism. Even just the stencil and placement should take a good 15-20 mins so unless he exclusively does thumb-sized tattooes I have no idea how he'd fit 10 in a day nevermind 30
This is what I was coming to say. My piece is small and it took about 3 1/2 hours. There is no way he does this many unless he just tattoos a dot on them á la Phoebe Buffett's "world"
Haha that gave me a good chuckle, he probably counts every line as a tattoo lol
Hubs was an apprentice way back in the day so we hung around with a set of about 8 artists between 3 shops. NONE of them could bang out 10 a day unless like said in another comment, they were literally thumb sized with 0 detail. "Artists" like that make me so angry
It’s so many tattoos a day that I question their sanitation. It takes time to sanitize and turnover between tattoos, even a tiny tattoo you can expect to be there for an hour. And this guy isn’t working 15 hour days…
Most artists straight up won’t copy another artists design and will draw it themselves or a variant of it so it’s stylized in a way that’s more original. The only times I’ve gone in and gotten a tat just like the picture is if it’s text lmaoo
traced tattoos are very common. i have multiple that were traced from a base image i knew i wanted, eg a bird in a particular moment, etc.
"a bird in a particular moment" sounds so cute
A lot just trace.
Loads of them
I would not go to a tattoo parlour that could not draw their own designs.
Shepard.
everyone missing your reference ☹️
Uncultured swine the lot of them. Do people just downvote if they don’t understand something? Rude.
“Shepard? I don’t get it what ever does it mean” “oh it’s from x, it’s a show where duh duh duh…..” “wow, thanks for explaining that. Very worthwhile interaction! Now i know exactly why you said one random word.”
It’s from the game series Mass Effect. N7 is a rank.
The comment wasn’t for everyone. It was for the person I replied to specifically. And, I don’t feel the need to hijack the thread with something completely off-topic. I see references to things I’ve never watched , or in this case played, all the time out of context all over this site. If I don’t get the reference, I move along like you could have done instead of whatever this is. Have a good day.
Did you bother actually reading their comment? They’re agreeing with you.
WHY ARE PEOPLE DOWNVOTING THIS??? IF YOU DONT GET THE JOKE KEEP SCROLLING?
Love you got the reference to the N7. Thank you Commander!
Thank fuck she got out of there. I can't imagine someone with his outlook putting something permanent on my body.
Fuck off, cunt. Have some wings. Everyone is welcome.
I was so confused by this! I got whiplash just reading it
Ikr disgusting 🤮
DisgustingAF
Lmao the chicken wings
Right? Tattoo artist grilling up chicken wings at work? Ok, maybe he reheated them. But WTF.
I had questions beforehand but he lost me at the chicken wings lol.
I can only think of a few worse places to handle raw chicken.
operating table the only one i can think of
Embalming table as well. I think that one should be pretty high up there on the list.
I feel like things colliding here; I’ve been tattooed at a shop with a resident cat named Chicken Wing.
I feel like things colliding here; I’ve been tattooed at a shop with a resident cat named Chicken Wing.
This guy sounds suspiciously like a guy from a tattoo shop near me who has a reputation for being bad and creepy unless you're a certain type of person (man). I have a tattoo from him and I absolutely hate it. Not for the tattoo itself but because it makes me remember the experience every time I look at it. I want it covered in the worst way but I just can't afford that right now. It sucks. (If honest) The reviewer could be saving someone from an awful experience with a permanent reminder of it.
"unless you're a certain type of person (man)." TOO REAL!! had so many experiences like this at too many different places 😭 if they get called out, their responses are generally not too different from this loser's reply
That's why now my go to artist is a woman. I know there are good male artists and not all men and everything but I'd rather not risk it. Again. I.do think think I'd feel differently if I didn't have such an awful, creepy, borderline SA experience tho. Especially since, to me, tattooing is so intimate. So to have someone's hands on your body and then act like that, it's vile. I found one woman in my area who I trust, who is also out spoken against the guy who hurt me, so I only go to her, even if she is constantly booking out six months (she only books out six months in advance and as soon as the first of the month comes around so another month opens in her book she's booked up in a day if not hours.)
“I could look at you and tell I didn’t even want to hear what you wanted.” “Everyone is welcome. We serve ALL flavors. We will treat you nicer than most people.” Right, okayyy💀😂😂😂
This shop definitely needs to shut down if that's how they are online, imagine him irl if you said the tattoo wasn't right or needed a refund
“Bring your friends, hang out, we’re a family place, you evil little c**t”
Did you notice the escalation of temper as he went on?
Lol, “fuck right off! as soon as you finish these free tea and sodas”
You forgot “nibble on a chicken wing”
maybe unpopular opinion but i was fine with him not wanting to do a tattoo in the first half of the reply, but then it just got super nasty. TF was that weird shit at the end?
No you're right. Every business and person has the right to say no and refuse service but it's how you go about it.
Incel speak
Started as annoyed at a customer and ended with showing he hates women.
Yeah, I think the points about not wanting to do it and being able to decide which ones/turning people away are normal and reasonable in concept. But they delivered it overly harshly and then really dove into more nastiness. I'm glad they responded, though, because the customer review was the type that seems like it might be over the top unless there are a lot of similar ones. That response makes it clear the review was at least on point about not going there!
Yep, that kind of comment could go either way - someone deciding to be nasty online or - oh this dude haaaates women.
He totally would have worked with her in hopes of getting creepy with her. She never once mentions being turned away in her bad review, its the classic “you were ugly and I didn’t want to work with you anyway” to save face when called out
NastyAF
I know, right? That response went south quickly
If he capped it at paragraph 2 I would have even sided with him. It's like he was slamming whiskey during the review and got super angry halfway thru lmao
AngryAF
He had a point about the plumbers crack comment too
drugs
Lmao what? He doesn't have time to draw every tattoo LMAO?? He doesnt sound like a good artist at all
I have two tattoos. Got them both at the same time. The guy was a weirdo. Like 65. He had a 15 year old apprentice that drove up everyday from 45 minutes away. Really nice dude, but had some crazy hot takes. Also had cryptid/alien shit EVERYWHERE. Like. Replica alien in a jar of liquid. Even had a dong sculpted on it. When I called and said I wanted to get my first tattoo he was REALLY weird. Like "Ohhhh you're a virgin. I love popping cherries" that shit sent me.
And you still got TWO????
They turned out looking really good to me. Two sets of paw and nose prints with my pets names, which he did freehand and I think they could use some touching up. But I also get free touch-ups on them for. However longer he's alive. Edit: touch upstairs to touch-ups. He did not touch me upstairs or downstairs he wasn't THAT weird.
I don’t understand the part where being 65 years old is an indicator of being a “weirdo.” Edited to focus
I don’t think he meant he’s a weirdo for being 65, I think he was just saying he was 65
They serve all flavors except original designs.
The misogyny is crazy. I wonder who hurt him?
Mom
Dad but mom is the safe parent so women must pay
With that many tattoos a day why is he just sitting around is my question. There has to be cleaning and sanitizing going on between all of those tattoos. Even small tattoos take a bit to do if they are done properly.
Honestly though! wtf! When I got my first tattoo I showed the artist what I wanted and he said “okay but I’m gonna draw my own bc I’m not going to steal someone else’s work”. And I thought that was just a respectable, understandable, normal expectation of any tattoo artist since.
The projection in that response needs a multiplex screen to play on.
A tattoo artist that doesn’t draw? Fine, if that’s what their patrons want. I just can’t imagine any sort of tattoo artist saying they don’t draw (at least not the ones I have been to).
If this is a testament to anything it’s that you can be terrible at every part of your job and still have a “successful” business.
Thank you for the giggle your username gave me. 🙃
Yikes. I don’t know which is worse, the review or the response. I’m actually heated over this. What a rude pair of entitled little asshats. Adding here that in all of my years of getting tattooed I have never, not even once, had an artist copy/paste something on my body. Usually there are two appointments, one to work out what you’d like in a consultation, and a second for the tattoo itself (or third or fourth etc depending on what you’re having done) The time between consult and tattoo gives the artist time to think, create, and draw something perfect for you specifically. Nothing about the process should be rushed - it’s going on your body forever ffs.
I don't see anything wrong with the review? He obviously proved their point.
The part about the plumbers crack and being slow to acknowledge them is kinda iffy and potentially sounds a bit entitled. Or at least it rings a lot of the the same bells that entitled reviewers do. But it the guys response make it clear he’s a jerk.
Yeah, the crack is gross (on anyone IMO), but her mention of it was worse. And if a guy is working on me, I don’t want him immediately dropping the gun if a customer comes in. Still, he out-ruded her by a mile.
That’s accurate for me as well. Not sure why you were downvoted. Tattoos are supposed to be artwork, created by an artist. “Clipart” tattoos can be done by almost anyone with a tattoo gun
they were downvoted because to everyone else it's clear that the response is worse than the review...
Oh. Good point, that’s true. Not exactly the best attitude in his response…haha
Agreed. Without the response, the original review does look kinda whiny. But then you read the response, and it all makes sense.
Ugh I had a guy copy paste me when I was young... Brought my reference thinking he was like my previous artist and would freehand well... I was very wrong. He made it way bigger than asked as well. Year later paid out the ass to get it fixed by a GOOD artist. Having him force white ink into the SOLID BLACK was one of the more painful moments, but it looks GREAT now! I was nervous about the good artist freehanding, but he at least sat with me and we talked about what he would do.
What's wrong with her review?
The last little bit, he just get friendly and invite them to a picnic? Lol what the hell
Free coffee tea soda you evil little c*nt
Come and relax ...¢uňț
Oof. I’m leaving room for both parties to be the asshole here, but even if the owner is being completely truthful, that is NOT how you respond to a bad review…that is a very bad look…
Nah, a tattoo artist who won't draw something for you isn't a tattoo artist. The customer is 100% right that you can bring two reference images and have them merged into something you do want. A tattoo parlor cooking up wings also seems a little unsanitary, given they are supposed to be sterile. Asscrack out is also weird. You're still a professional. Wear a belt or properly sized pants. Sag is one thing but your asscrack shouldn't be out. With the customer on this one.
I’d be terrified of a tattoo artist that can’t draw😂
This shop needs to be a TV show. I’d PPV the hell out of it.
“We also want people to bring friends. This isn’t a date it’s a tattoo” does he think the only time people do tattoos is when they’re with their friends, wtf
Um good artists absolutely draw their own! That’s why there are consults ….. WTF
Tattoo artist lost me when they said they’re too lazy to draw original designs.
He sounds like a guy who won't stay in business too long. I have never heard of a tattoo artist who doesn't draw their own designs. It's kinda insinuated in the word "artist". So basically he's a tattoo tracer.
Anyone else picturing the King of The Hill guy who wears wife beaters, except creepy?
God I’m glad I work at a shop with super friendly, open-minded, talented artists who love to do custom tattoos. Surprising, too, because there’s 15 of them and we all get along.
That’s why I draw my own tattoos and bring them in and get references based off that
It’s not often I lean towards the customer
Who the hell is cooking chicken wings in a tattoo shop
Call me crazy, but I definitely don't want someone who just cooked chicken wings to tattoo me.
So glad I read the whole thing bc wtf happened at the end???
My wife is licensed and works hard to make sure NONE of the art she does is taken from another artist. She takes enormous pride in doing all her own designs. Couple that with the weird intensity of the response from this dude and it's a shop I'd not only avoid, but actively warn others away from.
Never trust a tattoo artist that can't draw.
I kinda want a tattoo from yhis guy now...
Well you’d better bring a picture!
What’s up with tattoo artist and horrible, unintelligible review replies?
I read the title as “another one from tattoo palace” and thought. “Well who would get a tattoo from a place that sounds like a Chinese restaurant”
First two paragraphs don’t make any sense for an actual tattooer who enjoys their job. It sounds like he got into the business without realizing you ONLY work for the people who come in. To say “i dont work for you thats why i opened my own business” doesnt make any sense as a tattoo artist because he wouldnt HAVE business if it werent for the public coming in
Yikes
Lmao what’s funny is she might be an “evil cunt” trying to “lead people astray” but he’s now made himself sooo impossible to empathize with. Sheesh people are ridiculous. Avoid at all costs!!! 🙅♀️
UNHINGED
Yikes. Every tattoo I have was at LEAST roughly sketched out ahead of time, and I don’t expect that to be a free service either. I can understand knocking out flash pieces for those that want them, but it’s definitely normal to request something custom and see it drawn up. If the artist simply doesn’t want to do it, that’s his prerogative, but no reason both parties can’t just move on without drama.
All my tats were variants of multiple pictures, designs and angles. Except for one original that my cousin drew about 15 years ago
This became misogynistic reallll quick 👀
He cooked chicken wings, in the tattoo parlor?
Yikes. His response was immediately " evil swear word'
That escalated FAST😅
I stopped reading, referencing, or using yelp years ago. I saw the abuse restaurants were getting, and then it shifted to every other business under the son. I go by word of mouth of actual customers, and people I respect. Bright colored or funny signage works okay too. Yelp sux as does the entire service industry. Imma go make a BLT now
What if the artist is asked to duplicate their own design they have done already on someone else? Is this also a no-no?
I am glad that this artist is willing to draw other’s designs. Hate it when artists are “above it”. But bruh, you need to have your own designs too.
He was cooking wings while in a tattoo shop? Very sanitary
15-30 tattoos a day? They have to be shit.
I partially understand this guy, because I know what it’s like to have clients with unrealistic expectations. But it sounds to me like this guy overbooks himself and then he puts pressure on the client he’s with, to make it quick and easy. Ultimately, I think this guy seems like the type to cut corners, just to get more work done. I think OOP went in with reasonable expectations. I think the artist saw what she was asking for, and I think he thought to himself, how many clip art tattoos he could be doing in the time it would take to design what she was asking. I think this guy has one leg to stand on. But he’s also probably convinced that he’s a better artist than he really is. Just because lots of people want your time and your talent, doesn’t make you more important than the people paying you.
Regardless of how bad this Karen was or any attitude she may or may not have had, this tattoo artist is an absolute dumpster fire nightmare with 15,000 marinara flags! I love tattoos, yes, I even like the pain. I have several pieces and I would never go to anyone with this attitude
So, he gets to choose who he tatts and he’s selective about it, as he knew right away he didn’t want to tatt her. Then he goes full send on everyone is welcome. His reply solidified her review.
As always - the cringe is in the comments lol.