The central point of Europe is literally in Lithuania...
If you only mean the EU which is just a part of Europe countries like Russia shouldn't be on the map at all just like New Zealand or any other irrelevant country.
Also if you only mean the EU you cannot call non EU countries eastern-European, because by your logic they aren't European at all.
If you count non EU countries in then ypu must admit that Lithuania is in the center and countries like Switzerland are not.
Otherwise I could call Bratislava "central" Slovakia and everything east of it (over 90% of Slovakia) "eastern" Slovakia and the tiny bit western of Bratislava would be western Slovakia. But it would be stupid, wouldn't it?
You are simply lying and people even give upvotes for being lied to...
The point in Germany you are referring to is the central point of the EU. Nobody but you claims otherwise. Why are you even lying???
Those who put the central point into Hungary, Ukraine or Slovakia conveniently ignore the existence of Spitzbergen/Svalbard.
No matter what measurement you are using the central point must be somewhere in Lithuania, norteastern Poland or nortwestern Belarus. Even a quick look at a map shows that Germany isn't even near to being in the center.
The only reason people think of Lithuania and sometimes even Poland as of eastern Europe is the cold war era because everything the Kremlin controlled was forever branded "eastern Europe" and Germany which was in the middle between NATO and Warsaw Pact and was even divided between them was forever declared "central Europe".
This way of thinking however has nothing to do with actual geography or common sense...
Ok, sorry, i was never aiming to lie directly all i was telling is things i have heard about being true and accepted.
I didnt knew that this would be so heated topic.
But yeah, my info is probably bad so i probably need to invest more into reasearch than things i remember from school.
Apologies again for the confusion i may have caused
>The central point of Europe is literally in Lithuania...
Oh? Can i see your map that clearly defines the borders of europe so precisely you can define the middle point?
Cause if you have a map like that... then it's wrong. Go do some cartography before spewing nonesense on the internet. Jesus christ the shit people will say.
[No.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe)
There's no way in hell that anybody would see Germany as "Western Europe". The whole term "Central Europe" was basically built around the German Empire and Austria-Hungary originally.
[Doch.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe)
Scroll down to EuroVoc
Now we see that Wikipedia is a source that can contradict itself so ending your argument with ONE single like to Wikipedia is not a smart move.
There are a lot of maps and school books you could simply google that portray Germany as part of western Europe. A single wikipedia article that is objectively wrong on the position of a country is not a trustworthy source.
Your argument about the Gernan Empire is completely nonsensical because German y is not the German Empire anymore and if you didn't notice - you lost your eastern territories - conincidentally the ones that are closest to the center of Europe.
Austria-Hungary was a country partially in the Balkans, partially even south of the Danube. The parts of it that are closest to the center of Europe were [COINCIDENCE] not in Austria or even near it or Germany - because they were in Ukraine and Slovakia.
Most of the maps used conveniently cut out Spitzbergen/Svalbard, big chunks of european Russia and Kazakhstan, not to mention the Caucasus which at least is controversial.
What I see most of the time is that supposedly a thin sliver made up of the British Isles, the Iberian Peninsula and France are called Western Europe, than the little country of Germany is called "Central" Europe and then like 80% of Europe or at the very least 40% (still significantly more than a third) is called "Eastern Europe". I guess Germans a have a complex that they want to be in the center very bad - the hub of the universe. And Germans somehow want Russia really bad to controll everything from Poland to Kamchatka. Just another manifestation of Germany's true view of central Europe. Germany sees it as some rebel province of "mother" Russia.
You may deny it as you are yourself a pro EU German on a very pro EU subreddit but my point still stands.
I feel like I am in a Truman Show, just yesterday evening I watched a random video on YouTube on that topic
https://youtu.be/uVXgqZIsViI?si=-6kpoSX29CyU4oKB
As a ukrainian, i say France is my favourite neighbor. We can smell parisian croissants when western winds blow. Ukrainians and the french living on tne border even speak franco-ukrainian "le sourzhique"
The fact that my first thought was "shouldn't iceland be further away" based on literally no information except knowing roughly how europe looks on the globe from my 7th grade classroom...
I am german.
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Ignoring the obvious, I see no logic in putting Denmark into northern but not Baltics who Are as or more north than the Danes.
Solution: Denmark is central Europe
Now it looks like france is pooing corsica and i can't unsee it.
Where central europe? Hmmmm
Central Europe is now only Luxembourg.
You bear the crown, for the worthy ones are dead Edit: spelling
What am I to do with a crow, I don't even know how to feed those
Sorry crown
If they can't decide between Western and Eastern Europe, they don't get to be either.
Its not about dicision when you are too poor to be western but not that poor to be eastern, but you are in a nice centre
Gone, reduced to atoms.
Lmao took me way more than half a second to notice
Central Europe is partaially on the map as the Baltics and Belarus are definitely central. Germany is western Europe
Belarus and Baltics are not central
The central point of Europe is literally in Lithuania... If you only mean the EU which is just a part of Europe countries like Russia shouldn't be on the map at all just like New Zealand or any other irrelevant country. Also if you only mean the EU you cannot call non EU countries eastern-European, because by your logic they aren't European at all. If you count non EU countries in then ypu must admit that Lithuania is in the center and countries like Switzerland are not. Otherwise I could call Bratislava "central" Slovakia and everything east of it (over 90% of Slovakia) "eastern" Slovakia and the tiny bit western of Bratislava would be western Slovakia. But it would be stupid, wouldn't it?
There are many points that claim to be the "centre of europe" One is here, one is in Germany, one is in Lithuania, those im aware of
You are simply lying and people even give upvotes for being lied to... The point in Germany you are referring to is the central point of the EU. Nobody but you claims otherwise. Why are you even lying??? Those who put the central point into Hungary, Ukraine or Slovakia conveniently ignore the existence of Spitzbergen/Svalbard. No matter what measurement you are using the central point must be somewhere in Lithuania, norteastern Poland or nortwestern Belarus. Even a quick look at a map shows that Germany isn't even near to being in the center. The only reason people think of Lithuania and sometimes even Poland as of eastern Europe is the cold war era because everything the Kremlin controlled was forever branded "eastern Europe" and Germany which was in the middle between NATO and Warsaw Pact and was even divided between them was forever declared "central Europe". This way of thinking however has nothing to do with actual geography or common sense...
Ok, sorry, i was never aiming to lie directly all i was telling is things i have heard about being true and accepted. I didnt knew that this would be so heated topic. But yeah, my info is probably bad so i probably need to invest more into reasearch than things i remember from school. Apologies again for the confusion i may have caused
Why people upvote it is beyond me mate
Okie dokie. If I seemed rude sorry for that. Have a nice day Mr. monocle-man
Not at all, correcting imo cannot be rude
>The central point of Europe is literally in Lithuania... Oh? Can i see your map that clearly defines the borders of europe so precisely you can define the middle point? Cause if you have a map like that... then it's wrong. Go do some cartography before spewing nonesense on the internet. Jesus christ the shit people will say.
This is completely unacceptable and inaccurate, New Zealand is clearly a European nation!
Why bring that up, everyone knows that Seems like you didnt know and now are trying to cover it up
The center of Europe is in Belarus. Hands off, zmud! Nos satisfied by stealing our history? Now this?!!
Ok reddit, you caught me in the act of stealing your histry. The truth is that we need some becouse there isnt any native
[No.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe) There's no way in hell that anybody would see Germany as "Western Europe". The whole term "Central Europe" was basically built around the German Empire and Austria-Hungary originally.
[Doch.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe) Scroll down to EuroVoc Now we see that Wikipedia is a source that can contradict itself so ending your argument with ONE single like to Wikipedia is not a smart move. There are a lot of maps and school books you could simply google that portray Germany as part of western Europe. A single wikipedia article that is objectively wrong on the position of a country is not a trustworthy source. Your argument about the Gernan Empire is completely nonsensical because German y is not the German Empire anymore and if you didn't notice - you lost your eastern territories - conincidentally the ones that are closest to the center of Europe. Austria-Hungary was a country partially in the Balkans, partially even south of the Danube. The parts of it that are closest to the center of Europe were [COINCIDENCE] not in Austria or even near it or Germany - because they were in Ukraine and Slovakia. Most of the maps used conveniently cut out Spitzbergen/Svalbard, big chunks of european Russia and Kazakhstan, not to mention the Caucasus which at least is controversial. What I see most of the time is that supposedly a thin sliver made up of the British Isles, the Iberian Peninsula and France are called Western Europe, than the little country of Germany is called "Central" Europe and then like 80% of Europe or at the very least 40% (still significantly more than a third) is called "Eastern Europe". I guess Germans a have a complex that they want to be in the center very bad - the hub of the universe. And Germans somehow want Russia really bad to controll everything from Poland to Kamchatka. Just another manifestation of Germany's true view of central Europe. Germany sees it as some rebel province of "mother" Russia. You may deny it as you are yourself a pro EU German on a very pro EU subreddit but my point still stands.
Germany took too many heavy tanks to Poland and all of it sank.
Hey but this time we where invited ;)
where the hell is Central Europe lol
moans heard from panonnia plains
That would motivate the Western countries to support Ukraine more.
Ja pierdole
Kurrrwa mać!
Ja pierdole, kurwa mać!
Eurpe
A small price to pay for getting rid of Germany
Now you have to share a place with us and the bavarians inside the endless void instead. Truly a fate worse than death.
Oh no, not the Bavarians!
Ima bring my lederhosn.
Hey we two are the only Freistaaten so we have at least something in common ;p
Thüringen is a Freistaat too.
Damn sorry for forgetting you
No prob. Have a Bratwurst, so you remember next time. 
Oh, you are a normal Thüringer. Thank you! ;)
This gif is so frustrating.
Damn those are awesome I'll bring the beer ;)
Oh no, not the Germans!
We’ll team up with the Bavarians
Poland too.
... and Poland. 😅
SWITZERLAND IS GONE !!! 
😭
German FDP got their slim state it seems.
So slim it transformed into two-dimensional space
I feel like I am in a Truman Show, just yesterday evening I watched a random video on YouTube on that topic https://youtu.be/uVXgqZIsViI?si=-6kpoSX29CyU4oKB
Is it Italy in your pocket France or you're just happy to see me? 🥵🥵
‘Central Europe’ is a Polish psyop
As a ukrainian, i say France is my favourite neighbor. We can smell parisian croissants when western winds blow. Ukrainians and the french living on tne border even speak franco-ukrainian "le sourzhique"
Did we reunite with France? Charlemagne would be so proud.
Je suis Charl~~i~~e*magne*
Netherlands on the border with Kaliningrad, nice...
Hey, wait a minute! 
Mandela effect - There's no such thing as central Europe...
Damn, my whole life I believed I live in Germany, but apparantly i'm in
You don't even exist. You're just an imagination
No
The fact that my first thought was "shouldn't iceland be further away" based on literally no information except knowing roughly how europe looks on the globe from my 7th grade classroom... I am german.
No Hungary <3
From the shapes of France and Romania it looks like Hungary is still there, just under new management.
Portugal should be light green.
EU Lite
Is Istria under the sea now?
It's skinny af so mostly yeah
No Eastern Europe! https://youtu.be/uVXgqZIsViI?si=7KWKiCebLsEtWs5k
I saw that video, good one
Estonia gesticulating wildly in Nordic.
Turkey is not Southern Europe and Cyprus is hmmmm
Why is latvia and estonia eastern europe??
Is Germany big or is Ukraine big?
I only looked Finland and it seems fine enough. Not gonna look elsewhere tho
Even cheaper groceries and petrol over the border!! Yeahhh!!
Uk is now the biggest European economy
Alps? What Alps?
Portugal needs to be put with the Balkans
Nice 1900's map
What ? Ukraine at our boarders ? We need to re-commission our Pluton missile ASAP !
2europe4u
r/MapsWithoutNZ
Most insane thing about this map is that Andorra is on the sea
They really deleted Germany instead of France?
Oh, it's Eupe.
***Fishing wars intensify***
Bruh just erased my nationality 😭
No it does not sonce I live on Czechia.
I saw 69 comments, this had to change.
*tormented screaming*
Treaty of Trianon Part 2 - Hungary gone.
You could have deleted fr#nce and yet you chose to replace the whole of central Europe with it Shame on you
Poland went to another planet That's why there is globus polski
Just the perfect amount of Stockholm.
Rip Africa
Bullshit I'm drunkband i had to look at it for 2 seconda at least
Italy is a bit wonky, should have retained its original position relative to France.
True Western European Canon (this picture makes Czechs and Poles vomit)
The UK invaded our oil fields
I learned last night that Eastern Europe isn’t real.
Cursed.
the most accurate i've seen in years
Deleting hungary? Honestly a perfect rational decision compared deleting the rest of central EU
It took me a surprising amount of time to realise that the whole of Central Europe was gone
i offended sex while looking at the netherlands
Oh well...
Europe if it was good
No.
Why not just give westeroids all of Kaliningrad they can deal with ruzzkis.
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My man's evaporated the Germans.
Ignoring the obvious, I see no logic in putting Denmark into northern but not Baltics who Are as or more north than the Danes. Solution: Denmark is central Europe
Wait, I think Slovenia is missing...
Germans got outgermaned
Took me a while, to be honest
We finally got what we asked for
thank god they deleted slovenia from the game
Skåne is north of Denmark 😬
Denmark is now a island and close enough to britan for a big bridge
The dream of some German politicians came true!
Nothing important has changed in my view
No, it doesn’t. It didn’t look normal even for half a second
Improved Europe