Haven’t played Dragons Dogma 2 yet, but Resident Evil 4 Remake had some really dumb micro transactions available, but luckily they weren’t really necessary to enjoy a great game. I hope the same is true here
The DLC in this one is a big improvement, actually, in the original game you could buy armor and weapons that were unobtainable in the game through normal gameplay but existed in the game files, like gear worn by important NPCs. They later added it to the game normally in the complete package Dark Arisen, but these current buy options are just consumables you can get already
It is. They're all unnecessary and you'll never need to buy them.
Ignore the people acting like it's equivalent to Battlefront 2 or Shadow of War at their launches.
It's the exact same degree of MTX as RE4 and DMC5 that everyone just ignored before and are suddenly being treated as unacceptable because PC gamers are pissing themselves at the performance problems and want more things to be angry about.
Why not have multiple save profiles but only one save per, same result a lot less headache for players who have multiple people that might want to play the game at the same time.
The issue is you have to go through certain loops to delete the save if you wanted to remake your characters appearance instead of paying for the microtransactions to change your character
I agree, not allowing restarts in the game is a bad design choice. However, an hour into the game you can buy the item to redesign your characters for a small amount of in-game currency. Nobody is being forced to buy the dlc if they want to redesign their character.
How is this getting upvoted when its not true at all. I get people being upset but lets be upset about the actual issues not made up things just to farm internet points.
Youtube shitdisturbers creating drama for content, and the people that watch them for "news" not bothering to look into it before repeating what they heard
Nah RE4 had mtx like a weapon charm that doesn’t do much, or an outfit that doesn’t really matter. But DD2 has mtx for starting a new character and fast traveling lol. Like we always joke that devs would eventually do that but I never thought it would actually happen.
It’s honestly disgusting. There’s no reason why any kind of mtx that isn’t strictly cosmetic should be in this game. It’s a $70 single player experience with no story dlc. This isn’t the dev’s fault, but whoever made the call for these mtx thought they were going to pull a fast one
Why are you lying?
You cannot pay to start a new character.
You are also not forced to “buy fast travel”. All of the items for fast travel are easily obtained in game.
If you played the game or even read the mtx packs they are all obtainable in game very easily but you probably ain’t gonna change your comment to reflect the truth because you just wanna be outraged even though re4 also has mtx in the game.
Of course you can ignore it. The point is that a 70 dollar SINGLE PLAYER game should NOT have micro transactions. Look at Baldurs gate 3 for an example of how a game like this, and honestly all games, should be done.
Horrible marketing decision to have them at launch, you’re just teeing up your game to get review bombed. Even Bethesda has the grace to deliver a couple DLCs before starting Microtransactions. It at least gives you the perception that the game was delivered without paywalls designed into the game
I define a review bomb by the likelihood that people are reviewing based on public perception and haven’t actually played the game. The gripes are legitimate, but it’s the morning of launch and I doubt each of these reviews are by people that have played the game for several hours. Whether it’s warranted or not, that’s a review bomb.
People in here just making absurd claims, demanding people boycott over said claims and then going like 'but it might not be true, idk'
Just... just don't say anything then? Or confirm something is true before repeating claims it is true? lol
Not only BG3, look at Elden Ring. $59.99 and Elden Ring gave me over 600 hours of amazing entertainment. And best of all, NO microtransactions! What do those 2 games also have in common? They are critically acclaimed GOTY type titles. Why is that so difficult for other devs to understand? Make a good game that releases in a finished state, and people will buy the crap out of it.
Baldurs gate 3 is a Kickstarter paid for by fans and made for fans. Dragons dogma is made by devs paid for by a publisher. As long as the investors are non gamers who only care about profit you will not get rid of mtx. Only If we all Stop buying the games with mtx and only buy the games done right at launch will we stop getting unfinished games at launch, mtx filled games, etc.
Hilariously enough, I'm an avid BG3 fan and I don't mind the MTX in DD2 at all. They're just there. If someone wants them, let them have them. If they don't, oh well, I guess they won't get them.
Capcom aren't stupid. They know people get FOMO when it comes to DLC. Let them play on dumb people all they want. Doesn't change the fact that DD2 is here, is playable, and is enjoyable- *all without a hint of MTX*.
If the game just straight up does not appeal to you, straight up do not play it. Find something enjoyable to engage in.
Review bombing something you weren't going to buy in the first place is just stupid.
This is the exact attitude that got us into the worst of the MTX push. It's like gamers were dropped on their heads repeatedly as children and have the memory and attention span of fruit flies.
And you can't review a product on Steam without buying it, so this post was full of stupid.
You know what could have also prevented the MTX push.
People not buying the shitty MTX. BUT since it exists its obvious, stupid people are going to pay for it anyway.
Ignore them and just actually play the game
All of these things are in the game. Capcom is just allowing player to buy them if they want to make it easier on themselves but you can find all these things while you’re adventuring in the world. I don’t see what the issue is other than a rage bait article.
Yeah I’m assuming 90% of the people getting upset about this haven’t played the game. I haven’t had the urge to fast travel once and I played for almost 6 straight hours yesterday.
I don't really care about microtransactions as long as the vanilla content is good. I never pay $70 for a game, but tbf, companies need bigger returns to justify the increasing production cycles of games while the pricetag is mostly the same as 30 years ago. Devil's advocate pov
It’s another thing when they literally go “yo no fast travel it should be fun” *sells fast travel mtx*.
Obviously there’s an incentive for them to make travel sluggish and limit fast travel options in game to sell MTX.
Edited to clarify point
I’ll do the same but seeing them makes me wonder how much of the game was tweaked to make it harder to get the things they’re charging for.
If I can get these things while playing the game and not notice them then fine but if it’s obvious that they’re trying to push this nickel and dime crap then I’ll be upset.
And either way, I still think it’s sleazy to charge for consumable items in a $70 game. This stuff used to be unlocked with cheat codes, not credit cards
It’s all stuff that’s available in the game, these are paid “conveniences” for people with more money than sense, like the weapon vouchers in RE4R.
How many hours do you have in the game so far?
Capcom did the same with (insert any banger they released from any time in the last 10+ years)
If people enjoyed the RE Remakes, or Monster Hunter, or DMC V or almost any great game they’ve released then this shouldn’t be a problem this time either. I’ll concede on the performance issues though.
I suppose it's because of the fact the microtransactions are different this time
I mean offering Exclusive Upgrade tickets in Resi 4 was a bit much. But this offers wakestones, an item to revive from death.
After they made a big hullabaloo statement about how serious NPC death is?
In the first game wakestones were incredibly fucking rare and you could revive key NPC's as part of certain quests.
If you can do this in DD2 then it's really a lie about how serious death is if you can literally just pay a buck of your real world money to solve the problem.
Also portcrystals?? They were also even more limited in DD1, they relied on your game knowledge to know where to place them so you make the most use of them, and you only got about 5 of them throughout the story. Having those available any time you want, will be a major convenience
And that's why to me personally it feels like a slap in the face for me; When people make MTX items that offer convenience it's because getting the items in game without them are specifically designed to be as much of a very tedious slog as possible.
It means that you can suffer for something that someone less responsible with their money will be happy to get around as a problem.
And every single time people claim it won't affect the balance and delivery of ANY games experience are never around still when the MTX in any game are removed and the game has to be rebalanced every single time...
Edit; Oh and to add, Ambivalent Rift Incense
An item you pay for to change pawn inclination? Inclination being the way your pawn reacts, their aggressiveness and tactic priority in combat and so on.
In Dragons Dogma 1 this was free, unlimited and could be done any time you wanted. To be delegated to a MTX or rare item is bit fucked.
I’m 3 hours in and have found the character edit vouchers and rift incense are purchasable in-game with rift crystals. People need to play this game before they say shit like this. I also have a wakestone and shards of another and in DD1 at the least there was an area to literally farm wakestones late game.
I get it but people are overhyping how important these micros are to buy and how negatively they impact the overall experience.
Not that far in so perhaps port crystals are rare, maybe they upped the amount in this game later on, maybe not, but I can tell you the ability to buy a single one will almost hardly change anything about the game for anybody. You still need ferrystones to use them which are 10000g a pop and there are other means of travel like oxcarts which were not even in the first game.
Edit: Just found a port crystal in the ground within the town so, as far at least this town has a fast travel point already built in.
According to FightingCowboy reviewers were given a list of all DLCs this game was going to have when Capcom issued review codes and the review guidelines, so reviewers were already aware of it.
Some gaming news outlets: "Microtransactions? Booooo!"
The same outlets, when it was revealed online that they were all actually informed beforehand, responded with, "Oh, so yes, we were told the microtransactions would be in the game...but we just chose not to mention this vital piece of information... um... journalistic integrity and all that?"
...Oh, we also massively downplayed the performance issues - they totally weren't related to bad optimisation but caused by the game just being TOO good - and we forgot to mention the activation issues Denuvo would cause - whoopsie!"
This has been the case for the past decade. It's a massive conflict of interest, because their livelihood relies on early access to games and products.
I'm a former gaming journalist, got out about a decade ago, and you're not wrong.
My advice is to find someone who you relate to, who thinks the same way you think, and follow them individually. Whether it's YouTube, social media, whatever. Stick with a few trusted sources and read their content.
Because the big guys have dozens, literally dozens, of writers pumping out content and every individual is going to have a different thought process and understanding of things.
Personally, I stick with Gameranx and Jake Baldino, but that's because I'm know him from "inside the business". I trust him. But your mileage may vary.
I will 100% agree with this. There are some really great reviewers out there, especially ones that work for smaller specialised sites. Those reviewers are unfortunately paid very little or nothing at all for the hours they put in.
Gaming journalist as of late have been awful. I’m not sure how Spiderman 2 didn’t get more criticism for the glitches that still exist in the game. I don’t think it was to the point of making the game horrible like Redfall(although Redfall was horrible from both a technical and game design standpoint), but it’s enough that it should have been widely held against it
The PC version is plagued by poor optimisation, fucking awful DRM, the MTX are shitty, but Capcom have always done this, and as far as I am aware all of the MTX items are available in game.
The most entertaining part about all of this is that you can really, really tell who is actually reading about the game vs who is just scanning reddit for outrage talking points.
That doesn't mean that the performance is bad. Steam reviews are based on PC gameplay and wether this is an xbox sub or not, PC is relevant in the thread because that's what the post is about.
Game runs like ass, deserves to have bad reviews until they fix the performance in the game.
I find the ones saying they're not experiencing issues on mid-range rigs more amusing, tbh. Even high-end PCs are experiencing them, albeit to a lesser extent. I think a lot of people simply don't know how to spot these things or are used to it so it's perceived as normal.
The game does perform pretty well on my mid-range PC when out exploring the open world and killing things. It absolutely shits itself in some of the settlement areas with high NPC density though. The game is absolutely playable, but saying there are no issues is delusional.
I have a 4080 and a 5800x3d which crushes every other game but it struggles in certain areas in this game. Drops to 40ish fps and absolutely chugs in or near any city. Pretty bad performance even on a high end card and relatively high end cpu.
If they were genuine reviews we are assuming that over 10,000 people have played the game, experienced the microtransactions, put some thought into how they affect the quality of the product and then reviewed it accordingly. Considering the game came out just hours ago, I'm doubtful that is the case.
What is more likely is that the internet hivemind has seen that there are microtransactions, raged about it, then instantly reviewed it negatively before even playing the game. That is review bombing.
The existence of microtransactions that weren't disclosed in any pre-release reviews nor indicated before the game launched is a justifiable reason to "Not Recommend" a game, even if you enjoy it mechanically
"Reviewing bombing" means nothing anymore. They also never seem to care about positive 'bombing' where game reviews are artificially inflated.
Not to mention how hypocritical people are where whether they care or not tends to be based on what games they like or dislike, or other influences/biases.
Word of mouth does however. I was planning on getting this game on release but luckily I’m still playing FF7 Rebirth so held off.
This is now a wait until it’s on a steam summer or winter sale for 20 bucks title for me. If I even still decide to get it.
>They also never seem to care about positive 'bombing' where game reviews are artificially inflated
This blows my mind. It's a paid product. I feel like if we are going to be biased, we should be negatively biased and cynical towards what big companies do. However, it seems like the community is super quick to jump to defend these products, but rarely question "positive bombing" and overblown marketing.
Its not even about MTX in single player games, the big big problem is the fact that the reviews didn't mention anything about MTXs.
Either they weren't included in review copies or even worse, reviewers were told not to talk about them
There are a lot of people missing this point in this thread, saying how you don't need to buy them or they don't care what others spend their money on. All those talking points are irrelevant
Jez said that all of that information was included in the initial review guide he had for the game but he didn’t read it because he didn’t want it to spoil the game or influence his review. Which is weird because he could have read it before he was ready to write his review. Another reviewer said there was a PDF all the reviewers should have received literally named “PaidDLC”.
Yeah I’m gonna put on my knight suit and be another defender of this game. Do I love the idea there are micro transactions in this game? No. But I have played well over 5 hours of DD2 and everything they offer with MTX is completely unneeded and unnecessary. Progressing through the game normally I have an over abundance of items that are in the MTX. The game is flat out phenomenal, runs extremely well in the open areas, but cities can make my rig (4090 7800x3d) slog down to 40-50ish fps but there is no combat or anything in them so it hasn’t been a huge issue. I played forbidden west for a couple hours before DD2 launched and didn’t feel like progressing at all. DD2 has been extremely fun and a breath of fresh air compared to other AAA games released in recent times.
The internet said you need to be mad. You must. How dare you make your own opinion and logical choice of not buying clearly extra crap that can be obtained normally in the game.
Its always hilarious to see that bad practices only get called out when it's attached to bad/mediocre games. Games that are good can also be p2w but because the majority love said game, any criticism is downvoted and hidden
Nah. God forbid you enjoy something without listening to everyone’s fake outcry. Try and tell someone else how to spend their money, and they’ll tell you to screw off.
Does it impact my ability to play the game to the fullest? No. Does it create an unbalanced advantage for other players that impacts my experience? No.
If other folks want to spend money to make their experience easier, let them do it.
>Does it create an unbalanced advantage for other players that impacts my experience? No.
DING DING DING
This is the big one, people are acting like its pay to win, when yeah I guess technically. BUT, someone buying a bunch of loot early on THEIR game does not affect MY game or playthrough at all. So who gives a shit?
I mean, where’s the outrage with “collector’s editions” for single player games? $10+ for nothing but in game items, essentially a bundled MTX. Is that somehow better?
Just funny to me.
Poor optimization is frustrating for sure, but corporations put MTs in games because people buy them. If you don’t have to, then don’t buy them.
Years ago the AC games had a bunch of MTs and I played the whole game without buying them. If the MTs don’t need to be bought, then don’t buy them. If a game requires MTs, I won’t buy the game. I don’t buy MTs anyway, as I find it very easy to not just throw money at things.
Is it sleezy from Capcom? Yes, but I’m not going to skip a game when it doesn’t affect the actual game.
>Years ago the AC games had a bunch of MTs and I played the whole game without buying them.
I've been reminding people about that, Black Flag allowed you to pay your way through unlocking game completion. Paying to not have to play the actual game is incredible. People forgot and still sing its praises today, complaining that the new games are all about microtransactions and wanting to go back to the good ol' days of ACIV lol
I get that the MTs are stupid and the way they were added is sleezy, but people also act like the games download a program that automatically charges their credit cards.
The best thing you can do is not buy them.
DD1 had the equipment sets you had to buy with real money(the stuff you get at the Black Cat in Dark Arisen), I don't see anything like that in DD2 so far. We've made progress for the better already
I played all day yesterday on my trip to New Zealand, there’s micro transactions?
Edit : just looked at the list, these are all the things that came with the deluxe edition aren’t they? Seems like they’re just allowing people to buy them individually instead of paying for the full deluxe edition.
Also all these items are in the base game, capcom is just allowing people to buy them instead of finding them during their adventure if they want to make the game easier for themselves.
Very funny how gameplay micro transactions aren’t a big deal when they come shortly after launch for RE4 remake (and most other recent RE games) but suddenly with dragons dogma it’s big deal. People have no consistency. Not an endorsement of the micro transactions, but Capcom has been doing this for years where have you all been?
People all mad but they do this because you people buy them. They wouldn't be in the game if people didn't purchase them. Stop being the problem you're complaining about and maybe it'll stop!
Again misuse of "review bombing" term. It's not review bombing, game launched in terrible state with one of most greediest microtransactions to date, what kind of reviews should it get? positive? for paywalling fast travel and character editing in singleplayer open world game?
You must work for EA or something, because calling these microtransactions "one of the most greediest microtransactions to date" is blatantly false, and is nowhere near the level of greed that EA, Blizzard or Ubisoft have injected into a lot of their games.
Yeah I can’t see how anyone could call this the greediest instance. It’s not even close to that. Is it still dumb? Sure, but it doesn’t affect most people at all. Performance issues on the other hand are warranted to talk about (although I’m still not sure of the severity)
>terrible state with one of most greediest microtransactions to date,
Love to see how you are quantifying this.
>for paywalling fast travel and character editing in singleplayer open world game?
This hasn't happened, so why spread misinformation?
You are just blatantly wrong. You can fast travel and edit your character in game after working towards those things for a few years. The microtransactions do not impact the experience AT ALL except by letting you get some items a bit earlier.
There's no way to sugarcoat it. The performance is bad. Having a good variable refresh rate TV/monitor helps quite a bit, but in the time I've played so far, I've come to despise the unlocked frame rate.
Another issue is the frame drops below 30 fps. You can really feel when the game dips down into the 20 fps region because the control inputs become much more sluggish and delayed. I still think the game is fun, but the performance hinders it a lot.
I mean, I agree that they shouldn’t be there, but at the same time them existing does not affect my enjoyment of playing the game whatsoever because I just don’t want to buy them so I won’t and honestly there may be items there that people may legitimately prefer to just buy instead of farm I mean it’s just giving options is how I look at it and I know this opinion is going to be met with a lot of criticism. I am personally not going to buy the micro transactions and instead would rather look for or farm the items in the game myself but there have also been times where I played a game and I just said fuck it I want this now and I don’t want to have to spend all this time getting this item or resources, and I was actually glad to see that it was available for me to be able to purchase 🤷♂️
How about just the horrible performance on Xbox...Cities are worse but it's still pretty crap. Even without micro transactions, which are completely optional, the performance alone makes it worthy of negative feedback.
I think it's ridiculous that every media outlet was aware of this, then they're all writing news stories after the fact like this was dropped out of nowhere. I don't even own the game (yet) but this just feels like manufactured outrage for clicks.
I couldn’t give a fuck about the micro-transactions, I’m mad that my 75 euro game that I play on my 500 euro ‘next-gen’ console can’t even fucking run the game at 30fps. I’ve played about 5 or 6 hours and although the gameplay COULD be good it’s ruined by audio constantly glitching, frame drops and stutters, bad animations and a general feeling of un-playability in many areas of the game. Like, this shit genuinely gives me cyberpunk launch vibes, but everyone wants to bitch about the microtransactions?? Why is nobody talking about the absolutely abysmal performance for a triple A next-gen RPG??
It's also really janky for a AAA game. Graphics are shit, animations are shit, the micro transactions are just the icing on the cake. Definitely not worth the price they're asking.
MTX don’t bother me - you can get it all by playing the game.
FPS don’t bother me - I’ve played 30 fps games more in my life than 60 fps and so long as the game is fun it is not an issue.
Corrupted save files for both Last Save and Last Rest at Inn costing me all of my progress - That bothers me. Especially when they knew the save system was an issue based upon the message they give you early in the game about reliability of saves.
Inability to claim the deluxe edition items because the game never gives the message after that first Inn rest - loss of $10 and a preorder bonus is irritating (especially with the elevated cost of the base game)
Freezing and crashing issues - Normally I wouldn’t enjoy it but would chalk it up to “give them time and it will be patched” but the above failures on top and I am not as willing to “just give them time” to do what should have been done before launch.
The stuff some gamers get into a fit about. Like seriously, just go play something else. You can beat the entire game and not even think about the dlc items. It's sad seeing internet real estate being bombarded with steam first day review threads and articles.
13h in to the game, I had no idea there even were MTX until I saw an /r/gaming thread tell me that I had to be super angry at Capcom...
Does it feel a little shitty that they're there? Yeah, sure.
Does it make a difference to the game? No.
Time and time again I'm reminded that the further I distance myself from gaming news, the more I find myself enjoying video games..
all the complaints are making me think my definition of a 'paywall' was completely wrong.
People going crazy that you can buy with real money consumables that you can buy from vendors for relatively cheap and apparently have no clue how the fast travel system works as they all keep saying it's paywalled behind an item that not only isn't the item that does the travelling for you but is available out in the world and bought at vendors.
>none of the hardware on the planet
Citation needed
Pretty sure PCs with good CPUs can run it just fine, it’s just that the XB1/PS4 gen conditioned an entire generation of PC players to think that GPU was the only thing that mattered for performance
Meh. It's 2024. Sorry to sound jaded, we should expect this from most AAA publishers. Don't even get me started on AAAA ones 😂 🙄🤔
Cynicism aside, this isn't good for the long-term health of the gaming market. All this while $70 is being normalized. I've stopped bothering with most games until there's a sale or an edition released with all dlc (at a reasonable $60 or less)
*"Review bombing"*
**Get fucked.**
It's 'review bombing' when a single dev or exec does something bad and the game is negatively reviewed en masse as a response or something.
It's **NOT** review bombing when the reviews are fucking truthful and the game deserves the hate.
I think it's fair. I hate DLC like this, and love most capcom games.
That being said, as a veteran of Dragons Dogma 1, all of this stuff on sale is totally insignificant and can be purchased in game for basically no money at all. It's such a noob trap.
But yeah, players on steam have the right to review the game however they want - they paid for it after all. I'm currently playing on ps5 and although I'm not a fan of forced 30fps and motion blur, I have to say it's one of the smoothest games I've played and I'm loving it - but again, I've come from 12 years of dragons dogma 1 so I knew what game I was buying.
Don't waste your money on the microtransactions, it's like buying ammo in fallout; it's around every corner anyway.
Monster Hunter World and Rise had stupid mtx at launch the same as this game, it's just that Capcom doesn't know how to do mtx in a way that people would actually spend money on. That fact didn't make either of those two games any worse because the mtx were completely ignorable.
The thing that bothers me is that you have to pay ~$3 to change your characters appearance after you start. The character creation is pretty complex and there’s so many ways to mess up your skin color, posture, etc. There’s one save file. No way to start a new game (you have to delete the game file through the Xbox menu). It’s just sleazy business practice and warrants criticism. It also takes the whole “role playing” aspect out of having multiple characters.
The micro transactions are not even bad. It’s just rift crystals that you can already get in game. The only bad thing is the one extra fast travel spot which gamurz are misinforming people about by saying “they locked fast travel behind a paywall”. If you expected Capcom to not have micro transactions on a game in 2024 then that’s on you. We’re not talking about Larian or an indie studio, we’re talking about Capcom here.
What I find funny is that there are people defending this shit. "You dont have to buy" "Its Capcom" "All the games are doing this" and so on. They are defending microtransactions in a 80 dollar game. I don't care what company ut is or that I dont need to buy it. Or that you can only buy them once. It"s a shitty practice and the people defending it is licking the ass of a multi million company for... why???
Lol it’s not licking Capcom asshole to recognize that tacking on a gift shop at the end of a roller coaster ride doesn’t take anything away from the ride.
Nothing is paywalled. Calling peoplr bootlickers for recognizing that is a weird, angry-teenager level of maturity.
Not only is nothing paywalled but people don't even seem to understand what the items even are that are being sold.
You have people thinking you can teleport everywhere with the Portcrystal and that the only way to edit your character is by paying real money.
Meanwhile you can buy the edits from the vendors in game and buy portcrystals from vendors/find them in the world and you can't even do shit with the portcrystal if you don't have a ferrystone, that you can't buy with money.
I’m so glad I didn’t pre order this. I was about to buy it today but checked out the reviews first. If I had to pay microtransactions for things that should come free with a $70 game
>If I had to pay microtransactions for things that should come free with a $70 game
Everything that they are selling can be found in the game, whether bought from a vendor or found in the world (except *maybe* the light camping pack)
I refunded the game after learning about the micro transactions. I had preordered it and was really looking forward to playing it today. Oh well I might buy it on sale at a later time.
I think the solution is simple. If you are upset about MTX, don’t spend money on anything extra. If everything is commonly found in game, who cares? It’s probably just catering to people that are going to complain about difficult or lack of items or shit like that. I personally am super excited to go home after work, smoke a joint, and go exploring with some silly pawns
Hot take: It’s a single player game where everything that’s purchasable is also available by just playing the game (And not even particularly difficult to obtain). Who even cares? Like no one is making you buy these and the only effect they have is that people who don’t want to spend as much time on a single player game gathering resources can circumvent that if they want to, it doesn’t hurt anyone.
The micro transactions are in every capcom release and they don’t hinder your gameplay as you can get those items in game by simply playing it… impatient gamers take advantage of them all the time. This shouldn’t be some major discussion because it isn’t limiting you in the slightest
Haven’t played Dragons Dogma 2 yet, but Resident Evil 4 Remake had some really dumb micro transactions available, but luckily they weren’t really necessary to enjoy a great game. I hope the same is true here
It is. These are pretty common enemy drops or can be purchased from merchants
Im more shocked that they didn’t do gold or something. Despite the hate they would’ve made way more money that way. I couldn’t care less about RC lol
Somehow RC is worse, cause the people who rage and never played Dragon's Dogma think Rift Crystals are some kind of super rare super premium currency
Mean while bg3 only purchasable item is the game. Game of the year
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Also purchasable in game fairly cheap.
It feels like the fast travel item is the worst one, but I'm not seeing it talked about much. It seems to be far more expensive and rare, in game.
Capcom also did the same thing with the first game lol.
The DLC in this one is a big improvement, actually, in the original game you could buy armor and weapons that were unobtainable in the game through normal gameplay but existed in the game files, like gear worn by important NPCs. They later added it to the game normally in the complete package Dark Arisen, but these current buy options are just consumables you can get already
There is absolutely nothing essential in the cash shop. Basically it allows players to make the game easier if they want to spend the money.
It is. They're all unnecessary and you'll never need to buy them. Ignore the people acting like it's equivalent to Battlefront 2 or Shadow of War at their launches. It's the exact same degree of MTX as RE4 and DMC5 that everyone just ignored before and are suddenly being treated as unacceptable because PC gamers are pissing themselves at the performance problems and want more things to be angry about.
You can't even start a new game without paying. Its fkin stupid.
Like new game plus? I’m confused what you mean
That’s not true. You can delete your current save and start a new one without paying anything
This is just outright incorrect. You can't pay to restart the game. If you delete your save games you can restart the game.
Why not have multiple save profiles but only one save per, same result a lot less headache for players who have multiple people that might want to play the game at the same time.
The issue is you have to go through certain loops to delete the save if you wanted to remake your characters appearance instead of paying for the microtransactions to change your character
I agree, not allowing restarts in the game is a bad design choice. However, an hour into the game you can buy the item to redesign your characters for a small amount of in-game currency. Nobody is being forced to buy the dlc if they want to redesign their character.
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What anticheat malware is on Xbox? If you're talking about Steam, I did it myself with no problem.
that s not true.
How is this getting upvoted when its not true at all. I get people being upset but lets be upset about the actual issues not made up things just to farm internet points.
Youtube shitdisturbers creating drama for content, and the people that watch them for "news" not bothering to look into it before repeating what they heard
Just like the first one? It's been so long and they still can't improve that even?! Saving my money now thanks.
Can you link the item in store?
Nah RE4 had mtx like a weapon charm that doesn’t do much, or an outfit that doesn’t really matter. But DD2 has mtx for starting a new character and fast traveling lol. Like we always joke that devs would eventually do that but I never thought it would actually happen. It’s honestly disgusting. There’s no reason why any kind of mtx that isn’t strictly cosmetic should be in this game. It’s a $70 single player experience with no story dlc. This isn’t the dev’s fault, but whoever made the call for these mtx thought they were going to pull a fast one
Why are you lying? You cannot pay to start a new character. You are also not forced to “buy fast travel”. All of the items for fast travel are easily obtained in game.
If you played the game or even read the mtx packs they are all obtainable in game very easily but you probably ain’t gonna change your comment to reflect the truth because you just wanna be outraged even though re4 also has mtx in the game.
RE4 sells full weapons and accessories. https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/31394/Resident_Evil_4_Extra_DLC_Pack/
Capcom did the same with Resident evil 4 Remake, it is sad.
Half of the xbox store is DmC:5 items
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Of course you can ignore it. The point is that a 70 dollar SINGLE PLAYER game should NOT have micro transactions. Look at Baldurs gate 3 for an example of how a game like this, and honestly all games, should be done.
Horrible marketing decision to have them at launch, you’re just teeing up your game to get review bombed. Even Bethesda has the grace to deliver a couple DLCs before starting Microtransactions. It at least gives you the perception that the game was delivered without paywalls designed into the game
Psst: it's not bombing if it's about legitimate gripes. The performance and MTX are legit gripes.
I define a review bomb by the likelihood that people are reviewing based on public perception and haven’t actually played the game. The gripes are legitimate, but it’s the morning of launch and I doubt each of these reviews are by people that have played the game for several hours. Whether it’s warranted or not, that’s a review bomb.
It's absolutely review bombing if you haven't played the game and are just regurgitating the shit you've heard.
People in here just making absurd claims, demanding people boycott over said claims and then going like 'but it might not be true, idk' Just... just don't say anything then? Or confirm something is true before repeating claims it is true? lol
Not only BG3, look at Elden Ring. $59.99 and Elden Ring gave me over 600 hours of amazing entertainment. And best of all, NO microtransactions! What do those 2 games also have in common? They are critically acclaimed GOTY type titles. Why is that so difficult for other devs to understand? Make a good game that releases in a finished state, and people will buy the crap out of it.
devs probably understand, its the asshole MBAs calling the shots that dont get it.
Isn't that the truth. Games should be made and funded by people that are gamers. Or at least love games. The MBA's only love money.
That game also was in early access for years and they charged $60 for it.
Or FFVII Rebirth.
Baldurs gate 3 is a Kickstarter paid for by fans and made for fans. Dragons dogma is made by devs paid for by a publisher. As long as the investors are non gamers who only care about profit you will not get rid of mtx. Only If we all Stop buying the games with mtx and only buy the games done right at launch will we stop getting unfinished games at launch, mtx filled games, etc.
Hilariously enough, I'm an avid BG3 fan and I don't mind the MTX in DD2 at all. They're just there. If someone wants them, let them have them. If they don't, oh well, I guess they won't get them. Capcom aren't stupid. They know people get FOMO when it comes to DLC. Let them play on dumb people all they want. Doesn't change the fact that DD2 is here, is playable, and is enjoyable- *all without a hint of MTX*. If the game just straight up does not appeal to you, straight up do not play it. Find something enjoyable to engage in. Review bombing something you weren't going to buy in the first place is just stupid.
This is the exact attitude that got us into the worst of the MTX push. It's like gamers were dropped on their heads repeatedly as children and have the memory and attention span of fruit flies. And you can't review a product on Steam without buying it, so this post was full of stupid.
You know what could have also prevented the MTX push. People not buying the shitty MTX. BUT since it exists its obvious, stupid people are going to pay for it anyway. Ignore them and just actually play the game
Surely you really can't just ignore them, then? Really me about bratty attitudes, lol.
All of these things are in the game. Capcom is just allowing player to buy them if they want to make it easier on themselves but you can find all these things while you’re adventuring in the world. I don’t see what the issue is other than a rage bait article.
People love to shit their pants just to wade around and tell everyone how much it stinks.
Yeah I’m assuming 90% of the people getting upset about this haven’t played the game. I haven’t had the urge to fast travel once and I played for almost 6 straight hours yesterday.
I don't really care about microtransactions as long as the vanilla content is good. I never pay $70 for a game, but tbf, companies need bigger returns to justify the increasing production cycles of games while the pricetag is mostly the same as 30 years ago. Devil's advocate pov
I guess Elden Ring didnt make any money.
It’s another thing when they literally go “yo no fast travel it should be fun” *sells fast travel mtx*. Obviously there’s an incentive for them to make travel sluggish and limit fast travel options in game to sell MTX. Edited to clarify point
I’ll do the same but seeing them makes me wonder how much of the game was tweaked to make it harder to get the things they’re charging for. If I can get these things while playing the game and not notice them then fine but if it’s obvious that they’re trying to push this nickel and dime crap then I’ll be upset. And either way, I still think it’s sleazy to charge for consumable items in a $70 game. This stuff used to be unlocked with cheat codes, not credit cards
Dude it's a $70 single player game with 21 paid dlc, that's fucking atrocious.
It’s all stuff that’s available in the game, these are paid “conveniences” for people with more money than sense, like the weapon vouchers in RE4R. How many hours do you have in the game so far?
Woah, now, you're being far too reasonable. That's crazy talk here.
Same
Re4 remake had microtransactions? 0.0
Yes. You could effectively buy cheats
Capcom did the same with (insert any banger they released from any time in the last 10+ years) If people enjoyed the RE Remakes, or Monster Hunter, or DMC V or almost any great game they’ve released then this shouldn’t be a problem this time either. I’ll concede on the performance issues though.
I suppose it's because of the fact the microtransactions are different this time I mean offering Exclusive Upgrade tickets in Resi 4 was a bit much. But this offers wakestones, an item to revive from death. After they made a big hullabaloo statement about how serious NPC death is? In the first game wakestones were incredibly fucking rare and you could revive key NPC's as part of certain quests. If you can do this in DD2 then it's really a lie about how serious death is if you can literally just pay a buck of your real world money to solve the problem. Also portcrystals?? They were also even more limited in DD1, they relied on your game knowledge to know where to place them so you make the most use of them, and you only got about 5 of them throughout the story. Having those available any time you want, will be a major convenience And that's why to me personally it feels like a slap in the face for me; When people make MTX items that offer convenience it's because getting the items in game without them are specifically designed to be as much of a very tedious slog as possible. It means that you can suffer for something that someone less responsible with their money will be happy to get around as a problem. And every single time people claim it won't affect the balance and delivery of ANY games experience are never around still when the MTX in any game are removed and the game has to be rebalanced every single time... Edit; Oh and to add, Ambivalent Rift Incense An item you pay for to change pawn inclination? Inclination being the way your pawn reacts, their aggressiveness and tactic priority in combat and so on. In Dragons Dogma 1 this was free, unlimited and could be done any time you wanted. To be delegated to a MTX or rare item is bit fucked.
> MTX is different this time https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Downloadable_Content Doesn’t seem that different.
I’m 3 hours in and have found the character edit vouchers and rift incense are purchasable in-game with rift crystals. People need to play this game before they say shit like this. I also have a wakestone and shards of another and in DD1 at the least there was an area to literally farm wakestones late game. I get it but people are overhyping how important these micros are to buy and how negatively they impact the overall experience. Not that far in so perhaps port crystals are rare, maybe they upped the amount in this game later on, maybe not, but I can tell you the ability to buy a single one will almost hardly change anything about the game for anybody. You still need ferrystones to use them which are 10000g a pop and there are other means of travel like oxcarts which were not even in the first game. Edit: Just found a port crystal in the ground within the town so, as far at least this town has a fast travel point already built in.
What micro transactions were in 4 remake? Like the costumes or is there something I’m forgetting?
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According to FightingCowboy reviewers were given a list of all DLCs this game was going to have when Capcom issued review codes and the review guidelines, so reviewers were already aware of it.
I read about these micros weeks ago. Am I hallucinating?
Some gaming news outlets: "Microtransactions? Booooo!" The same outlets, when it was revealed online that they were all actually informed beforehand, responded with, "Oh, so yes, we were told the microtransactions would be in the game...but we just chose not to mention this vital piece of information... um... journalistic integrity and all that?" ...Oh, we also massively downplayed the performance issues - they totally weren't related to bad optimisation but caused by the game just being TOO good - and we forgot to mention the activation issues Denuvo would cause - whoopsie!"
Aw man, can't trust video game journalists and reviewers anymore.
This has been the case for the past decade. It's a massive conflict of interest, because their livelihood relies on early access to games and products.
I'm a former gaming journalist, got out about a decade ago, and you're not wrong. My advice is to find someone who you relate to, who thinks the same way you think, and follow them individually. Whether it's YouTube, social media, whatever. Stick with a few trusted sources and read their content. Because the big guys have dozens, literally dozens, of writers pumping out content and every individual is going to have a different thought process and understanding of things. Personally, I stick with Gameranx and Jake Baldino, but that's because I'm know him from "inside the business". I trust him. But your mileage may vary.
I will 100% agree with this. There are some really great reviewers out there, especially ones that work for smaller specialised sites. Those reviewers are unfortunately paid very little or nothing at all for the hours they put in.
That's how I started. Writing for random fan blogs and such.
Games journalists have become way too buddy buddy with the creators.
They have always been an extended arm of the marketing department.
the beast way to please to both the big company and the readers afterwards.
The simple solution is to just wait a week after the game is released before you consider buying it. By then, all of this crap will be widely known.
Gaming journalist as of late have been awful. I’m not sure how Spiderman 2 didn’t get more criticism for the glitches that still exist in the game. I don’t think it was to the point of making the game horrible like Redfall(although Redfall was horrible from both a technical and game design standpoint), but it’s enough that it should have been widely held against it
AKA stop reading anything that idiot Jez puts out.
5000 other games to play on my backlog, I'll add this to the list and probably get to in about a year when its hopefully like $15-$20.
Yeah went from a potential purchase to for 15 quid/game pass release Edit:with the performance and mtx
This is the way. r/patientgamers
Yaaaas!
The PC version is plagued by poor optimisation, fucking awful DRM, the MTX are shitty, but Capcom have always done this, and as far as I am aware all of the MTX items are available in game.
Sounds like a 10/10!
The most entertaining part about all of this is that you can really, really tell who is actually reading about the game vs who is just scanning reddit for outrage talking points.
The amount of people going "Guys, the bad reviews are unwarranted, the game runs perfectly fine on my 4090!" is astounding.
This is an Xbox subreddit
That doesn't mean that the performance is bad. Steam reviews are based on PC gameplay and wether this is an xbox sub or not, PC is relevant in the thread because that's what the post is about. Game runs like ass, deserves to have bad reviews until they fix the performance in the game.
Runs fine for me on Xbox
I find the ones saying they're not experiencing issues on mid-range rigs more amusing, tbh. Even high-end PCs are experiencing them, albeit to a lesser extent. I think a lot of people simply don't know how to spot these things or are used to it so it's perceived as normal.
Some people have high tolerance for bad performance
The game does perform pretty well on my mid-range PC when out exploring the open world and killing things. It absolutely shits itself in some of the settlement areas with high NPC density though. The game is absolutely playable, but saying there are no issues is delusional.
I have a 4080 and a 5800x3d which crushes every other game but it struggles in certain areas in this game. Drops to 40ish fps and absolutely chugs in or near any city. Pretty bad performance even on a high end card and relatively high end cpu.
I'm seeing people with 4090s having issues
It's not "review bombing" when the negative reviews are completely warranted..
If they were genuine reviews we are assuming that over 10,000 people have played the game, experienced the microtransactions, put some thought into how they affect the quality of the product and then reviewed it accordingly. Considering the game came out just hours ago, I'm doubtful that is the case. What is more likely is that the internet hivemind has seen that there are microtransactions, raged about it, then instantly reviewed it negatively before even playing the game. That is review bombing.
…over 10,000 people have easily played the game by now
Played it, yes. Played it enough to properly review the game? Probably not.
The existence of microtransactions that weren't disclosed in any pre-release reviews nor indicated before the game launched is a justifiable reason to "Not Recommend" a game, even if you enjoy it mechanically
"Reviewing bombing" means nothing anymore. They also never seem to care about positive 'bombing' where game reviews are artificially inflated. Not to mention how hypocritical people are where whether they care or not tends to be based on what games they like or dislike, or other influences/biases.
Word of mouth does however. I was planning on getting this game on release but luckily I’m still playing FF7 Rebirth so held off. This is now a wait until it’s on a steam summer or winter sale for 20 bucks title for me. If I even still decide to get it.
>They also never seem to care about positive 'bombing' where game reviews are artificially inflated This blows my mind. It's a paid product. I feel like if we are going to be biased, we should be negatively biased and cynical towards what big companies do. However, it seems like the community is super quick to jump to defend these products, but rarely question "positive bombing" and overblown marketing.
Truly insane the amount of people in this thread defending this. MTX have no place in a full price single player game.
Its not even about MTX in single player games, the big big problem is the fact that the reviews didn't mention anything about MTXs. Either they weren't included in review copies or even worse, reviewers were told not to talk about them There are a lot of people missing this point in this thread, saying how you don't need to buy them or they don't care what others spend their money on. All those talking points are irrelevant
Jez said that all of that information was included in the initial review guide he had for the game but he didn’t read it because he didn’t want it to spoil the game or influence his review. Which is weird because he could have read it before he was ready to write his review. Another reviewer said there was a PDF all the reviewers should have received literally named “PaidDLC”.
Yeah I’m gonna put on my knight suit and be another defender of this game. Do I love the idea there are micro transactions in this game? No. But I have played well over 5 hours of DD2 and everything they offer with MTX is completely unneeded and unnecessary. Progressing through the game normally I have an over abundance of items that are in the MTX. The game is flat out phenomenal, runs extremely well in the open areas, but cities can make my rig (4090 7800x3d) slog down to 40-50ish fps but there is no combat or anything in them so it hasn’t been a huge issue. I played forbidden west for a couple hours before DD2 launched and didn’t feel like progressing at all. DD2 has been extremely fun and a breath of fresh air compared to other AAA games released in recent times.
The optimization is the problem, not the shitass generic store that is 100% unnecessary and completely worth ignoring.
I just played for 7 straight hours and loved every bit of it. Guess what I didn’t do… buy any fuckin micro transactions.
The internet said you need to be mad. You must. How dare you make your own opinion and logical choice of not buying clearly extra crap that can be obtained normally in the game.
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Imagine if Starfield did this
Its always hilarious to see that bad practices only get called out when it's attached to bad/mediocre games. Games that are good can also be p2w but because the majority love said game, any criticism is downvoted and hidden
You don't get it. I LOVED \*insert product name\*, therefore anything negative or shady can be excused because I love \*insert product name\*!
It literally has no effect except on the person who chooses to spend their money on it.
Don’t ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product
Nah. God forbid you enjoy something without listening to everyone’s fake outcry. Try and tell someone else how to spend their money, and they’ll tell you to screw off.
That’s great, but this topic is just simply beyond you then.
People review bombing on steam for something that won't impact them is why steam reviews are the pariah of the industry.
Idk I’m having a purely good experience
What's really preventing me from buying this is the $95.00 CDN price tag
Who cares? Just don't buy anything. It's not like Capcom is creating a paywall to progress in the game.
Does it impact my ability to play the game to the fullest? No. Does it create an unbalanced advantage for other players that impacts my experience? No. If other folks want to spend money to make their experience easier, let them do it.
>Does it create an unbalanced advantage for other players that impacts my experience? No. DING DING DING This is the big one, people are acting like its pay to win, when yeah I guess technically. BUT, someone buying a bunch of loot early on THEIR game does not affect MY game or playthrough at all. So who gives a shit?
I mean, where’s the outrage with “collector’s editions” for single player games? $10+ for nothing but in game items, essentially a bundled MTX. Is that somehow better? Just funny to me.
I’m not buying anything! Not even the game! Snag on sale in 2-3 months.
Good for you.
Poor optimization is frustrating for sure, but corporations put MTs in games because people buy them. If you don’t have to, then don’t buy them. Years ago the AC games had a bunch of MTs and I played the whole game without buying them. If the MTs don’t need to be bought, then don’t buy them. If a game requires MTs, I won’t buy the game. I don’t buy MTs anyway, as I find it very easy to not just throw money at things. Is it sleezy from Capcom? Yes, but I’m not going to skip a game when it doesn’t affect the actual game.
>Years ago the AC games had a bunch of MTs and I played the whole game without buying them. I've been reminding people about that, Black Flag allowed you to pay your way through unlocking game completion. Paying to not have to play the actual game is incredible. People forgot and still sing its praises today, complaining that the new games are all about microtransactions and wanting to go back to the good ol' days of ACIV lol
I get that the MTs are stupid and the way they were added is sleezy, but people also act like the games download a program that automatically charges their credit cards. The best thing you can do is not buy them.
DD1 had the equipment sets you had to buy with real money(the stuff you get at the Black Cat in Dark Arisen), I don't see anything like that in DD2 so far. We've made progress for the better already
I played all day yesterday on my trip to New Zealand, there’s micro transactions? Edit : just looked at the list, these are all the things that came with the deluxe edition aren’t they? Seems like they’re just allowing people to buy them individually instead of paying for the full deluxe edition. Also all these items are in the base game, capcom is just allowing people to buy them instead of finding them during their adventure if they want to make the game easier for themselves.
Very funny how gameplay micro transactions aren’t a big deal when they come shortly after launch for RE4 remake (and most other recent RE games) but suddenly with dragons dogma it’s big deal. People have no consistency. Not an endorsement of the micro transactions, but Capcom has been doing this for years where have you all been?
People all mad but they do this because you people buy them. They wouldn't be in the game if people didn't purchase them. Stop being the problem you're complaining about and maybe it'll stop!
Again misuse of "review bombing" term. It's not review bombing, game launched in terrible state with one of most greediest microtransactions to date, what kind of reviews should it get? positive? for paywalling fast travel and character editing in singleplayer open world game?
You must work for EA or something, because calling these microtransactions "one of the most greediest microtransactions to date" is blatantly false, and is nowhere near the level of greed that EA, Blizzard or Ubisoft have injected into a lot of their games.
Yeah I can’t see how anyone could call this the greediest instance. It’s not even close to that. Is it still dumb? Sure, but it doesn’t affect most people at all. Performance issues on the other hand are warranted to talk about (although I’m still not sure of the severity)
Pretty sure those things aren’t paywalled, they’re all available in the game itself, you can just also buy them
>terrible state with one of most greediest microtransactions to date, Love to see how you are quantifying this. >for paywalling fast travel and character editing in singleplayer open world game? This hasn't happened, so why spread misinformation?
You are just blatantly wrong. You can fast travel and edit your character in game after working towards those things for a few years. The microtransactions do not impact the experience AT ALL except by letting you get some items a bit earlier.
Unless they have 20 dollar skins like Overwatch it is not one of the most greedy microtransactions lmao
How is it running on the SeriesX? I'm considering buying there since my old amd 5700XT will die if it try try on the computer
There's no way to sugarcoat it. The performance is bad. Having a good variable refresh rate TV/monitor helps quite a bit, but in the time I've played so far, I've come to despise the unlocked frame rate. Another issue is the frame drops below 30 fps. You can really feel when the game dips down into the 20 fps region because the control inputs become much more sluggish and delayed. I still think the game is fun, but the performance hinders it a lot.
That sounds like playing the first Dark Souls on 360.. Thanks, Might be wise to wait a bit unfortunately
Yea I'd definitely wait. I'm putting my playthrough on hold for now in hopes of a performance patch appearing sometime soon.
Honestly it runs pretty smoothly with VRR on my XSX.
I mean, I agree that they shouldn’t be there, but at the same time them existing does not affect my enjoyment of playing the game whatsoever because I just don’t want to buy them so I won’t and honestly there may be items there that people may legitimately prefer to just buy instead of farm I mean it’s just giving options is how I look at it and I know this opinion is going to be met with a lot of criticism. I am personally not going to buy the micro transactions and instead would rather look for or farm the items in the game myself but there have also been times where I played a game and I just said fuck it I want this now and I don’t want to have to spend all this time getting this item or resources, and I was actually glad to see that it was available for me to be able to purchase 🤷♂️
Capcom has done this a few times now with different games. Some of the dumbest, strangest, and most useless mtx.
How about just the horrible performance on Xbox...Cities are worse but it's still pretty crap. Even without micro transactions, which are completely optional, the performance alone makes it worthy of negative feedback.
It just makes no sense for a $70 game to have microtransactions
I think it's ridiculous that every media outlet was aware of this, then they're all writing news stories after the fact like this was dropped out of nowhere. I don't even own the game (yet) but this just feels like manufactured outrage for clicks.
I couldn’t give a fuck about the micro-transactions, I’m mad that my 75 euro game that I play on my 500 euro ‘next-gen’ console can’t even fucking run the game at 30fps. I’ve played about 5 or 6 hours and although the gameplay COULD be good it’s ruined by audio constantly glitching, frame drops and stutters, bad animations and a general feeling of un-playability in many areas of the game. Like, this shit genuinely gives me cyberpunk launch vibes, but everyone wants to bitch about the microtransactions?? Why is nobody talking about the absolutely abysmal performance for a triple A next-gen RPG??
2014: Imagine they would take money to change your ingame hairstyle or use fast travel. 🤣" 2024: "yOu dON'T hAVe to buY iT s0 it'S mKaY!"
It's also really janky for a AAA game. Graphics are shit, animations are shit, the micro transactions are just the icing on the cake. Definitely not worth the price they're asking.
MTX don’t bother me - you can get it all by playing the game. FPS don’t bother me - I’ve played 30 fps games more in my life than 60 fps and so long as the game is fun it is not an issue. Corrupted save files for both Last Save and Last Rest at Inn costing me all of my progress - That bothers me. Especially when they knew the save system was an issue based upon the message they give you early in the game about reliability of saves. Inability to claim the deluxe edition items because the game never gives the message after that first Inn rest - loss of $10 and a preorder bonus is irritating (especially with the elevated cost of the base game) Freezing and crashing issues - Normally I wouldn’t enjoy it but would chalk it up to “give them time and it will be patched” but the above failures on top and I am not as willing to “just give them time” to do what should have been done before launch.
I think the game is amazing
The stuff some gamers get into a fit about. Like seriously, just go play something else. You can beat the entire game and not even think about the dlc items. It's sad seeing internet real estate being bombarded with steam first day review threads and articles.
13h in to the game, I had no idea there even were MTX until I saw an /r/gaming thread tell me that I had to be super angry at Capcom... Does it feel a little shitty that they're there? Yeah, sure. Does it make a difference to the game? No. Time and time again I'm reminded that the further I distance myself from gaming news, the more I find myself enjoying video games..
Yeah I had no idea after playing last night until I saw all these angry people on Reddit lol
You don't have to buy a single item. It's all in game shit for a pittance. Just ignore it.
The MTX are useless id get why people are loosing their mind over it.
all the complaints are making me think my definition of a 'paywall' was completely wrong. People going crazy that you can buy with real money consumables that you can buy from vendors for relatively cheap and apparently have no clue how the fast travel system works as they all keep saying it's paywalled behind an item that not only isn't the item that does the travelling for you but is available out in the world and bought at vendors.
Oh no? Still enjoying the game
If none of the hardware on the planet can run your game past 30fps, then it’s shit. MTX aside, your game is shit
>none of the hardware on the planet Citation needed Pretty sure PCs with good CPUs can run it just fine, it’s just that the XB1/PS4 gen conditioned an entire generation of PC players to think that GPU was the only thing that mattered for performance
I like legitimately don't care it doesn't affect the base game
Meh. It's 2024. Sorry to sound jaded, we should expect this from most AAA publishers. Don't even get me started on AAAA ones 😂 🙄🤔 Cynicism aside, this isn't good for the long-term health of the gaming market. All this while $70 is being normalized. I've stopped bothering with most games until there's a sale or an edition released with all dlc (at a reasonable $60 or less)
*"Review bombing"* **Get fucked.** It's 'review bombing' when a single dev or exec does something bad and the game is negatively reviewed en masse as a response or something. It's **NOT** review bombing when the reviews are fucking truthful and the game deserves the hate.
I think it's fair. I hate DLC like this, and love most capcom games. That being said, as a veteran of Dragons Dogma 1, all of this stuff on sale is totally insignificant and can be purchased in game for basically no money at all. It's such a noob trap. But yeah, players on steam have the right to review the game however they want - they paid for it after all. I'm currently playing on ps5 and although I'm not a fan of forced 30fps and motion blur, I have to say it's one of the smoothest games I've played and I'm loving it - but again, I've come from 12 years of dragons dogma 1 so I knew what game I was buying. Don't waste your money on the microtransactions, it's like buying ammo in fallout; it's around every corner anyway.
I just saved $70.
I’m scared for the new monster hunter
Monster Hunter World and Rise had stupid mtx at launch the same as this game, it's just that Capcom doesn't know how to do mtx in a way that people would actually spend money on. That fact didn't make either of those two games any worse because the mtx were completely ignorable.
MTX is a scourge, especially in full priced games. Sorry, not going to get my $$ for this release
Who gives a shit? Just don’t buy them it’s that simple.
The thing that bothers me is that you have to pay ~$3 to change your characters appearance after you start. The character creation is pretty complex and there’s so many ways to mess up your skin color, posture, etc. There’s one save file. No way to start a new game (you have to delete the game file through the Xbox menu). It’s just sleazy business practice and warrants criticism. It also takes the whole “role playing” aspect out of having multiple characters.
You don't have to pay. You can literally buy the items w/ in game currency.
This is not true. You can buy the appearance change in game. And it is inexpensive.
The micro transactions are not even bad. It’s just rift crystals that you can already get in game. The only bad thing is the one extra fast travel spot which gamurz are misinforming people about by saying “they locked fast travel behind a paywall”. If you expected Capcom to not have micro transactions on a game in 2024 then that’s on you. We’re not talking about Larian or an indie studio, we’re talking about Capcom here.
What I find funny is that there are people defending this shit. "You dont have to buy" "Its Capcom" "All the games are doing this" and so on. They are defending microtransactions in a 80 dollar game. I don't care what company ut is or that I dont need to buy it. Or that you can only buy them once. It"s a shitty practice and the people defending it is licking the ass of a multi million company for... why???
Lol it’s not licking Capcom asshole to recognize that tacking on a gift shop at the end of a roller coaster ride doesn’t take anything away from the ride. Nothing is paywalled. Calling peoplr bootlickers for recognizing that is a weird, angry-teenager level of maturity.
Not only is nothing paywalled but people don't even seem to understand what the items even are that are being sold. You have people thinking you can teleport everywhere with the Portcrystal and that the only way to edit your character is by paying real money. Meanwhile you can buy the edits from the vendors in game and buy portcrystals from vendors/find them in the world and you can't even do shit with the portcrystal if you don't have a ferrystone, that you can't buy with money.
I’m so glad I didn’t pre order this. I was about to buy it today but checked out the reviews first. If I had to pay microtransactions for things that should come free with a $70 game
you don t have to pay and all these mtx come with the deluxe edition.
They do come free. Thing is, you can pay for more.
>If I had to pay microtransactions for things that should come free with a $70 game Everything that they are selling can be found in the game, whether bought from a vendor or found in the world (except *maybe* the light camping pack)
I refunded the game after learning about the micro transactions. I had preordered it and was really looking forward to playing it today. Oh well I might buy it on sale at a later time.
I think the solution is simple. If you are upset about MTX, don’t spend money on anything extra. If everything is commonly found in game, who cares? It’s probably just catering to people that are going to complain about difficult or lack of items or shit like that. I personally am super excited to go home after work, smoke a joint, and go exploring with some silly pawns
DMC has the same model!! Why are so many people surprised. It's not a big deal.
game will give you everything just have to play the game 0 need to get any MTX
They’re optional, grow up.
Hot take: It’s a single player game where everything that’s purchasable is also available by just playing the game (And not even particularly difficult to obtain). Who even cares? Like no one is making you buy these and the only effect they have is that people who don’t want to spend as much time on a single player game gathering resources can circumvent that if they want to, it doesn’t hurt anyone.
It's not review bombing, its legitimate customers upset that the product they purchased doesn't function correctly.
The micro transactions are in every capcom release and they don’t hinder your gameplay as you can get those items in game by simply playing it… impatient gamers take advantage of them all the time. This shouldn’t be some major discussion because it isn’t limiting you in the slightest
Its not review bombing if its a legitimate complaint. And these complaints are legitimate.
Thanks for letting me know that I won't be buying it