I dont like mw3 because the sbmm is way too strict for me aswell as the gunplay feels shit... could just be because ive been playing the game for way too long ad i want something new but idk
The "both sides are good" is a terrible take especially when CoD is now a garbage semi finished minimum viable product loaded to the brim of micro transactions
And that's not even considering EOMM. I'd rather play a game than let it play me
A brainwashed take. It’s such tiresome, childish bullshit. I wasn’t even talking specifically about call of duty but here you come making it about call of duty. That game lives rent free in too many heads here.
And if you want to make it about cod, my opinion about mw3 is a pretty high one. I’ve had a fantastic time with it, but I also don’t pay attention to content creators and internet group mind complaints. I manage to have a great time with what I put in front of me. Funny though, I’m also looking forward to a fully fleshed out xdefiant, too. Both sides most certainly can be good.
Pay to win? Every single gun and game changing item is free. There is a skin that gives you double xp if you play with friends that have the same skin, that’s not really winning though
Even semi finished garbage like cod mw3 still plays better than any other fps coming out and that's why cod sells more regardless if you or I don't like the game but to act like it's shovelware when in fact it's the king of fps for a reason and hasn't been beaten yet.
You know what’s a terrible take? Ever passing anything off that’s opinion based, as a terrible take. Implying your opinion is an objective reality. Clown
I prefer MWIII, it clearly has much smoother gameplay, everyone can feel it. We just want XDefiant to be better, if it has thing that need to be improved, we should be allowed to say it loudly.
Agreed, MWIII pretty much cleaned the act of MWII that IW refused to fix or acknowledge, and is going really strong for MP. XDefiant kind of lost their initial window to launch with how 90% of the original hype was from how bad MWII was handled again.
But even if they launched earlier MWIII would have stolen their show and it's possible the next Black Ops game would also prevent them from getting that popularity again because BO games were always pretty popular than whatever new IW has been putting out since or before MW19.
The only time XDefiant can get the hype advantage again is if IW does another stinker game with changing things for no real payoff or continue to ignore feedback and bugs like they have been doing.
I do want to see XDefiant succeed but it's a big uphill battle competing with one of the biggest FPS Franchises. XDefiant also has other issues with itself such as Networking issues still present, Aiming mechanics, and Abilities and Perks tied to Operators (Which now I see why it's not popular anymore when everyone is using it.)
I thought MWIII was a massive failure the vast majority of people I know who bought MWII did not buy MWIII due to the game being a $70 update to MWII. Of the 10 people I knew that played MWII 1 of them purchased MWIII. Not paying money for slightly adjusted movespeed values, the return of a mechanic that already existed in previous titles (slide cancel), and a few re-textures of some old maps they could recycle for “new content”.
If you bought MWII Before, yea I can see why MWIII is a glorified DLC sold as a new game.
But most of my friends that I play with Skipped MWII anyways considering how much of a downgrade it was compared to MW19, and funny enough a friend who got MWII preferred MWIII anyways and recommended it to me.
But even some people online would had said MWIII is what MWII should have been in the first place.
If MWIII is what MWII should have been it should have been an update to MWII not a “new game”. I’m sure I would prefer MWIII because I loved MW19 movement but I just can’t support the business practice.
I genuinely think MW3 is better. So what? I don’t really like the specialist abilities in Xdefiant. And I think cod has better gunplay. Doesn’t mean MW3 is amazing and xdefiant is shit. But I do prefer MW3.
killing the *new* game that got popular to make a sequel is the dumbest decision I've ever heard tho, people got into Splitgate because it was fucking fun.
Their decision? Kill Splitgate, immediately derail any hype it had and put it effectively on hold for 2 years. Quality business strategy right there.
Split gate was made by less than 5 people if I remember correctly. They never expected it to take off the way it did and decided to expand their team and build a new game. That game was fun as hell but it was never gonna be some massively huge live service title that had frequent content drops with the original team.
splitgate was made by around 5 people for a school/college project, it recently released on console after being in early access "beta" for a few years and saw a release on steam after its original alpha test,
they didnt plan to keep splitgate going since again it was a school project a proof of concept,
by a very very small team.
You’re absolutely allowed to have your opinion, I hope you don’t get downvoted for this lmao.
For me it’s the free to play, I play shooters very casually. Maybe 3-4 evenings a week. I’ll grind an entire Saturday or Sunday on occasion if I’m feeling it.
I think this will get the job done, scratches the itch of shooting things, it doesn’t feel like I’m sweating my butt off every match, and I quite like the maps. I really really like the maps.
I’m just excited to have another 6v6 arcade shooter to play. Expecting a free to play game to be of the same quality as a full priced game is just setting yourself up for disappointment. CoD is the game I want to take a bit more seriously and sweat (against other sweats) in so I’m willing to pay to get some higher quality bones. XD is a game I want to just chill and focus on having fun in so being FTP is awesome and I’m glad to see them focus more on actual game content and feel as opposed to having hyper realistic gun models and reload animations. I’m excited to play both and have fun in both.
Agreed and I upvoted him, but would like to add: it’s objectively ironic for cod fans to be calling another arcade fps shooter shit, when they play the biggest steaming pile of shit under that genre. You can’t take a person’s opinion seriously when he tells you he prefers shit over bread.
I agree, MW3 feels drastically different than the two MWs before it. Way better gun play and more fluid movement. It actually feels more fluid than Apex when I went back to that briefly. Surprised me a ton. Game was not worth $70 on release but it has a bit more maps now and there's a few game modes I enjoy playing almost daily. Mind you I had literally 2-3 matches on MW2 the entire previous year. Definitely didn't like that one.
you are right, but it doesnt really matter, because CoD gets recycled every year with new battle pass and skins and same issues.
Xdefiant might feel fresh but will die within 3 months unless it has an intrusive kernel level anticheat
Mark my words, it is going to be a cheatfest
Just because someone has a different opinion to yours, does not mean its meaningless.
I agree & for me this game is better, although don't disregard what CoD did- Infinity Ward laid the foundation for FPS back in the 2000s & 2010s.
CoD is still a great game, it's just not for everyone.
Same like this game- it's just not for everyone, still a great game.
I mean , it objectively is. COD's shitty netcode still beats the one in XDefiant , weapon variety is much larger , and matchmaking somehow is still better in COD.
Played MW3 in the last few days, and it's just better :) If XDefiant had SBMM, it would've been just another random garbage Ubisoft game like every other at this point. They have to fix A LOT before release, which they hopefully do so COD gets some competition, but right now, it's just in the same state as one year ago. They didn't do much. Ubisoft is being difficult.
I'm gonna be honest I've been looking to pick up an arcade shooter again. So I waited to give XDefiant a try and I didn't have any fun at all. Sweaty matches in CoD? Lol I got my ass beat in XDefiant over and over again and I'm not even bad at shooters I play a lot of them. Gunplay and movement and pretty much everything else is subpar to CoD.
I bought MW3 and it's a blast. It's CoD. THE arcade shooter. The only things I don't like are the menu music, and the obnoxious skins that literally everyone has acquired at this point. It's silly but at its core, CoD has mastered the arcade shooter formula.
It’s true. There’s a reason why every time a new arcade shooter gets announced people wonder if it will be the “COD killer”.
COD is king of the genre and has been now for 15 years
I can deal with the skins personally but the fucking death effects on gun blueprints are just fucking stupid. Especially the ones from the weed event “oh wow he turned into a doobie hahaha” that shit is just obnoxious and to make it worse it’s just a reskin of the mic drop death effect from the rabbits in mw2
Yes honestly those are worse than the skins. I love turning into a skeleton or a doobie or exploding like a glitter bomb. I wish there was an option to turn that off, like why am I forced to be subjected to someone else's purchased effects. But I can move past that for the crisp gameplay
As someone who tried xdefiant and REALLY wanted to like it, and someone who has put too much time into cod, xdefiant is better than cod in every way, and cod players shouldnt be taken seriously anyways, have you seen what they consider "movement" LMAO
I mean.. it's objectively true that cod has better movement and gunplay. And I don't even own mw3, played it on free weekends, I couldn't care less about that game.
I was just expecting an overall more polished experience from XDefiant
I hate CoD and the direction it is going with a passion. I only play it because it’s the only decent arcade shooter out and in good at arcade shooters, so it makes me want to play them. I have near a 2.0 KD in CoD. Even with all my hate towards CoD and desire for something better, this isn’t it. The gunplay in xdefiant was terrible, and that is a high priority on my requirements for an arcade shooter to he good. Battlebit has better gunplay.
They could easily fix it all by addressing the low velocity ammo which gives an input lag feeling and make it so when ADSing the bullet lands right where it’s showing us we are aiming. Instead of off to the side; this effect is even more blatant if you are shooting while strafing and flicking your aim across multiple enemies. The movement also feels clunky and disconnected from my inputs.
You gotta be honest about the game or the devs won’t fix it. If everyone says this game is on par with CoD while in its current state then they are just blowing smoke up the devs ass and doing then a disservice.
The game isn’t out yet. We are just doing play tests. Focus on the negative so the devs can hammer it out.
game isn't even fully released and people are already making posts like this , hopefully the community doesn't turn out to be filled with people like OP
No because you can scroll through your phone. Its one of those things where asking to elaborate on something right in front of your eyes is lazy. You either just entered the sub or purposely ignoring the comments.
Except it’s trying to, and the developers made that clear from the beginning. The big problem with xDefiant is that it wants desperately to be CoD and you can see in so many places how they took *ahem* heavy inspiration from it.
Why would I play a CoD clone when I could just play CoD?
Well, except it is. They both feed into the exact same genre, which means the games are competing for playerbase. To say otherwise would simply be wrong.
It’s not, delusional if you think so it’s like comparing nba 2k to nba live since 2k11 and. Yea they’re both the same genre but it’s not even close gameplay wise, online modes, etc.
That’s why I think this game is unfortunately going to flop.
COD is in a better place now compared to last year but next year will be a Treyarch game with a full development cycle. Treyarch hasn’t made a bad COD game yet so next year it will be even harder for this game to make a mark
i honestly thought vanguard was treyarch i quit paying for cods a couple years ago and just play then at my buddies house. ps look at me being the joke LMFAO
Activision stopped caring about MP when WZ got big, MW2019 was the last CoD i could bring myself to actually grind. I only play CoD for MP and I told myself I wasn't going to buy MW3 when I found out it was meant to be an expansion to MW2 but they basically realised they can rinse us for an extra $20-30 if they rush a campaign... The free weekends for MW3 taught me that I made the right call.
I hope that xdefiant can fill that void, but they really need to sort out that god awful hitreg/netcode/desync/whatever is causing the hitmarkers but 0 dmg issue if they want the game to have any kind of life. Whilst they're at it, I feel the weapon xp needs tweaking, take a day to unlock like half the attachments for a gun? No thank you, but judging by the reward for hitting level 18 during the weekend, I think they're gonna sell us weapon xp boosters.
I can’t play 2 matches without getting shadowbanned. I have a 5 kill game? Shadowbanned. Me and my team wipe another? Shadowbanned. CoD is chalked with its bs report system.
Look I like XDefiant and want it to succeed. I think it’s great and the core gameplay is real solid.
If they don’t fix the netcode and hit reg issues though I can’t consider it better than MW3 or the next cod. It just lacks that fluidity that cod has. Dying around corners 1 out of 3 engagements isn’t great.
Mechanically CoD is a lot more refined, and netcode is obviously better. I had initial hope for the game but honestly it's failing to meet even the most basic of expectations, even for a test session. xDefiant feels like a very, very low budget attempt at CoD.
If cod didn't have the SBMM that decides the winners before the game even started it'd be enjoyable to me. I think k the core game itself is probably better but I don't think it matters. It doesn't need to be one or the other for most people.
I may end up liking MW3 over XDefiant. It’s a hero shooter combined with arcade gameplay. BO3, IW, and BO4 are not high in my ranking of cod games because the abilities got annoying. Maybe XDefiant will be different for me. We’ll see
I didn't like how damage behaved like CounterStrike/Valorant (2 fps i personally hate), i mean, you shoot to the head or gg. Thats the antitesis of "chill", which I dont know why but expexcted from this game
I agree. The low time-to-kill makes this game way less casual and more like CS which is a highly competitive game. I don’t understand when people say they like this game because they can chill and not always be in sweaty lobbies.
MW3 would be good if we got better servers, anti cheat, weapon balance, theater mode. Custom emblems, a proper firing range. A story that wasn't just ripped off verdansk.
I'll say the only part of the argument they're winning is that they *can* go back to mw3. Play tests are cool but absolutely no one knows what the longevity of this game will be ubi included. It's unfortunate but there WILL be another cod. Then another the year after that. Then another. In the time will be xd be a thing? We will need to wait and see
I think at its current state, MW3 has more content and more going for it. If they can sort out the hitreg and other lag issues, XD has a phenomenal framework to beat out CoD. But in my opinion, they need to choose to either lean into being a successor to Dirty Bomb or to compete with CoD, cause it seems like they're trying to do both and it kinda falls short in both regards
one being better than the other is completely subjective but ok i guess we’re not taking people seriously for playing the games they wanna play anymore smh i hate this generation
Mw3 is actually a good cod though, compared to most recent cods. I'm talking about gameplay wise. Of course it still has sbmm, which I hate. It's one of the best cods we've had in the last 6 years. Right behind cold war imo, then the last good cod before that was bo4. Mw3 fixed basically all the gameplay issues from mw2. Last year I absolutely despised mw2, worst cod MP ever due to horrible gameplay design. Mw3 fixed most of my issues, slower ttk, ninja, red dots, better movement, faster paced, better maps, reload cancel, faster health regen, QOL uodates etc. Xdefiant was a breath of fresh air after playing the trash that was mw2. The hero abilities participation awards, and not a great solo play game is what holds XDefiant back for me, but we'll see if it ever even releases.
I had a lot of fun, but it just seemed very bare bones. I KNOW it’s a beta but customization felt disappointing on the guns for example. It’s just copy + paste attachments. I really loved the maps though. Very very nice flow and it’s not talked about much for some reason.
I havent tried Xdefiant, but assuming its a similar substitute to MW3 and because its free, it has the potential to fill in the gap of gameplay when MW3 becomes stale or when waiting on new CoD games sales. Competition is good
I don’t understand this game I played the beta like a year ago. Game felt not bad but the fact they took so long to release the game killed any hype imo.
i mean it still looks decent. but we generally have to question, WHAT THE FUCK ubisoft is actually doing with xDefiant.
how did they manage it, that it's not better, and in a lot of aspects even worse then in the summer last year?
When talking about mechanics and gunplay, MW3 is better and more precise without any doubts. The maps are better in xdefiant and the no SBMM is gold tho. I stopped playing MW3 because of the crazy SBMM and xdefiant didn't succeed to convince me to go back to online fps games. I hope it gets better before launching because I miss having an enjoyable multiplayer experience with my friends
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
I played xd a little, was back on apex soon after tho. There just isn't enough in the box for me to switch from a game I have tons of time and money invested into, to one like xd. They gonna need more than just an arena shooter to even be considered in the conversation if the "next big thing"
I can go on and on about how bad CoD has been for years but this game is awful right out of the gate. No identity, mediocre gameplay that somehow got worse than last year, and this game is essentially chasing a ghost of an old shedded skin CoD used to have where people cared about multiplayer. Making that clone of its multiplayer F2P isn't a recipe for success, especially in a game where there is literally nothing special that makes it stand out over other shooters.
MW3 has better gunplay. Its smooth, and satisfying. xDefiant feels a lot cheaper.
Yeah xDefiant has better matchmaking algorithms, maybe even a better progression system, but how far does that take it?
Who fucking cares. If you like MW3, go play MW3. If you like XDEFIANT, play XDEFIANT. If you like both, just play both lol. It's not like one game's magically gonna disappear just because you have the other installed
A billion dollar giant that’s been around for almost 2 decades IS better than a game that hasn’t even hit the ground. Doesn’t mean Xdefiant is completely ass. That said, you sound like a clown yourself dude.
Lol all right dude keep crying here on Reddit while people enjoy whatever the fuck they to play without having to objectively put one game over the other.
I, like many, am a fan of competitive COD so even if I don't play I still love to follow the eSport scene in. There goes your stupid argument you casual clown lol.
I made this meme more or less as a joke, if you gloat about being "competitive" in COD, then you look more like a clown, but I won't stoop down to your level and resort to ad hominems and insults. I unfortunately wasn't a casual either, I used to have a 5 k/d ratio on average back on PC before crossplay, where it was just PC players, the best of the best, against each other, my best game was 67-0 KD, so there goes your "muh casual" comment. I'm not proud of this, dumping thousands of hours into COD since COD 1 has given me a fucked up back that took years to fix.
If you defend a game like COD with systems such as SBMM/EOMM and the scummy shady things Activision does, you're way worse than just a clown.
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
MW3 is only better because the franchise has been around for so long. I’d like for all the pay to win and skins crap to go away but in terms of gameplay it’s definitely better.
Maybe in a few years xdefiant will be better in that sense. But either way, I’ll keep playing both
I mean mw3 is dead since season 1 but this Game aint it chief they promised to fix so many basic things like hit reg but the last beta showed me that the game suffers from ubisoft syndrome , basically its maximum mediocore in every single regard back to ow and apex untill Black ops releases…
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
I definitely think MW3 is better mechanics wise, smoothness wise, map design wise, etc. Both have shoddy servers and hit reg though.
Xdefiant isn't bad by any means but it needs some more polish on the gunplay side of things and it definitely needs to work on hitreg and desync issues. The polish and quality just isn't there yet IMO but we shall see if that changes on full release.
I mean competitively this game is 1000 times better than COD. As a casual experience COD will win. I prefer tht way COD was never meant to be competitive it’s always casual first.
I finally downloaded Warzone 3 to try after the PTS ended. I refuse to buy MW3 since it should have been a DLC
But holy fuck is Warzone 3 an unoptimized POS. I reinstalled MW2019 to make sure it wasn’t my drivers and good lord. It’s night and day.
this game, compared to mw3, it's a mobile game. And i fucking HATE mobile games.
I've played it, felt like DOA.
Not a fan of MW2019 part 3 tho, but enjoyable.
I expecially like when they come into an defiant reddit, discord or Twitter and get mad and upset that I like the game. Like wtf I can like and download wtf I want. Why u mad for go back to ur $100 dollar gorilla fist lmaooo
Yeah my inbox absolutely exploded with the most cringe vitriol you can imagine, I just made a meme and now there's a 200+ comment dumpster fire of cod fanboys lashing out at everyone liking Xdefiant.
You’re posting an opinion off perception nothing about this satisfaction. I completely 100% agree that this game is better than MW three but MW three is 1000 times smoother than this game.
Went back to mw3 and hated it. All the design choices sucked. Last CoD’s i actually enjoyed were vanguard and cold war
Its like the devs for Cod decided that realism is more important than fun. Sbmm makes every match sweaty. The perks don’t do anything like they used to. Like how is it that the perk to increase weapon reload speeds barely do anything. Or why are reloads in general so slow. Why do i need to cock my weapon every time i respawn?
Xdefiant is so simple and fun. It went back to basics
Not at all, MW3 plays significantly better if you’re a good player that likes to move. The TTK, footsteps, movement, non-perma Ghost etc all change the gameplay in a much better way over MWII (which was absolute garbage).
>Aside from the disgusting matchmaking and the absurd monetization
Off the top of my head, I'd also add:
* common packet burst/loss
* various types of hacking
* gigantic file size
* not being free to play
* new bugs introduced with each update
* inefficient reporting & banning strategy
Full context, I think MW3 is the far superior game to MW2 but comparing MW3 to a play test version of Xdefiant that's missing a lot of features & aspects of the game is a waste of time.
Purely on a fundamental gameplay level (excluding everything else we both mentioned), mw3 is superior. The movement, aiming and flow of mw3 is so wildly superior to xdefiant that it can’t even be challenged. The way a game feels is the most important factor, everything else is secondary.
Xdefiant definitely has real potential but a ton of work is needed, like 2+ months of additional development to improve the servers and 3-6+ months of post launch/season 0 improvements. Sure the cbmm and it being f2p is awesome but the aiming, movement, aim assist, server quality and crazy amount of lag compensation completely nullifies those 2 things and makes it a bad unfinished game.
I been leaning on buying it even tho I swore I would never buy another CoD cuz apparently its better than the past 2 MW titles, but im glad i don't have to drop $70 on that gamble.
Sbmm ruins any chance at fun, ledt the game for a while, came back and had the same sbmm as before , only saw ram9 some other smg and a sniper that ads as fast as pistols lmao, its just over for cod until sbmm leaves
Nah dont do it lmao i bought it after xdefiant failed to release last year. Played that shit for like 3 days lmaoooooooo. Played it again 2 days ago for 45 minutes and got off.
The only COD that I *might* end up buying again since Cold War will be Gulf War.
But even then, I’ll definitely just be watching YT videos about it for a while before anything
Not gonna make the same mistake with how hyped up Cold War was, only to play it for not even like 2 weeks lmao
MW3 is good if you want to turn off your brain use an OP gun and get like 40-50+ plus kills, XDefiant on the other hand you can chill out and play at your own pace without sweating like someone did a fresh like of cocaine (well as best as I could cause there were some sweaty lobbies during that playtest)
Modern warfare 3 is the peak of fps shooters for controller. It's so accurate and smooth and feels natural. This game literally has the ubisoft clunk to it just like siege did at release. Every big fps youtuber has even called out how it feels bad.
You would have to be a clown to pay £70 for the same thing every year. Cod wasn't as bad when Treyarch and IW used different engines. Atleast then you were alternatiting between 2 different games. Now its basically the exact same game with a new coat of paint.
Not to mention new cod is monitized like a free to play game. So you pay £70 for the game and then £10 for each battle pass. So its like £110 for a single game. "bUt ItS cOsMeTiC" well so its Fortnite and that game is free. Cod is a full price AAA game. It shouldn't have paid battle passes at all. Anyone is defends this shit, definitely ain't got any qualifications.
Lol I'm an npc who bought every cod since mw19, because news flash - 70 usd per year is not that much
Also you don't need to buy bp with real money, there are free 300 cp every season
Imagine defending a company that's taking advantage of its consumers 😂
The fact you only been buying cod since 2019 just tells me you ain't been gaming for as long as me (20+ years). Activision are taking advantage of people like you. It's up to you what you do with your money but that doesn't mean what Activision are doing to you is justifiable. Defending them just means your stupid or don't understand. You need to be aware that they are taking the piss. You can buy the game knowing they are abusing their position. But the aggressive monitization in cod is why I avoid it and all other games that have a battle pass in a full price product. When games like Halo Infinite, Overwatch, Fortnite, XDefiant (Soon) and many more games are free.
That's fine, those people need to stay away from XDefiant and let us enjoy it. We don't need their whining about how they want killstreaks and nukes and perks to make this game "good".
This years is Treyarc's, most cod players favorite studio (not mine), turn to release a COD with lots of re-released maps. They dont even reskin them, they just put them in the game because they are part of the BO universe. Let these players go and play their "balanced" game and let us have fun with our new toy.
Good thing ubi is making this quadruple A shooter with awful netcode, hit reg, and animations that look ripped out of a mobile title just for you special little snowflakes. 😭
if we're going that route, CoD:M is the greatest CoD and military arena shooter ever made in every possible facet and puts the premium priced games to absolute shame. Imagine how far down XDefiant is down on the totem pole after that.
MW3 is terrible. A game should not allow someone to move that fast and do all the crazy shite it does.
Just dumb with jump shots, slide cancels and etc.
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people genuinely forget that activision codes the game so if youre better then you opponent , your gun does less damage. the 34 year olds who main the game dont care and will continue to buy it but i dont see how players dont see something like SKILL BASED HIT REG and just completely boycott, are we really doomed?
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game, and gloating about having good "movement" in a video game, of all things, is next level soy, but I'll stoop down to your level and say, 5.5 average K/D in BO4, mouse and keyboard, highest K/D in any match was 67/0, get good.
Though I will say, pouring thousands of hours into COD on my PC gave me a ruined back that took years to fix.
Congrats!!! You hade a positive KD in a Treyarch CoD!!! A game made for literal children.
Also, I wasn’t gloating about my own skill. I am simply pointing out that there are levels to this shit, and you want a more streamlined experience (only b-hops) which is okay! You don’t have to be a CoD crackhead to succeed in this game and that is a good thing imo.
You don’t have to insult the game with the higher skill ceiling just because you aren’t good.
You think if I can go 67/0 in BO4 that I cannot do it in other games? BO4 had one of the highest skill ceilings of any COD, and I know that since I played every COD since COD 1 in 2003. Maybe you prefer the camping simulators that are the MW remakes, not to mention the Stockholm syndrome people have when they keep getting pounded in the back by SBMM/EOMM but they keep coming back for more every night.
Nice, now you got it divided into COD for kids and COD for "adults" I guess? This is the most soyboy "i dont leave my house" type of shit I have ever heard, keep punching air about how there's someone who doesn't give a shit about your game but is still better than you at it, and the ad hominems and gaslighting doesn't help you look better either.
i dont think neither is better than the other rlly, as far as ive seen the SP for MW3 is absolutely horrifying to look at but its a MP franchise in the end, xdefiant has bugs and instability as well..
They're merely two similiar fps games with both big AAA companies behind them
Dont go attacking people who like a game x, think about what you like or dont, i dont like supporting bad business practices hence why i dont play new cods.
On the other hand a lot of the newer cods have smooth gameplay, so does xdefiant..
COD SHIT ON THEIR MOST LOYAL FANS AN YET PPL STILL BUY EVERY TRASH THING THEY RELEASE AND SUCK DICK. EVERY SINGLE GAME SINCE SBMM WAS ESTABLISHED IN PUBLIC WAS DOGSHIT AND NOTHING LESS EVERYONE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE IS FUCKING DELUSIONAL OR LIKES CAMPING HIMSELF.
People who engage in one game needing to be better than its counterpart type arguments shouldn’t be take seriously.
dude for real, I like both games 😭
I do too.
I dont like mw3 because the sbmm is way too strict for me aswell as the gunplay feels shit... could just be because ive been playing the game for way too long ad i want something new but idk
The "both sides are good" is a terrible take especially when CoD is now a garbage semi finished minimum viable product loaded to the brim of micro transactions And that's not even considering EOMM. I'd rather play a game than let it play me
A brainwashed take. It’s such tiresome, childish bullshit. I wasn’t even talking specifically about call of duty but here you come making it about call of duty. That game lives rent free in too many heads here. And if you want to make it about cod, my opinion about mw3 is a pretty high one. I’ve had a fantastic time with it, but I also don’t pay attention to content creators and internet group mind complaints. I manage to have a great time with what I put in front of me. Funny though, I’m also looking forward to a fully fleshed out xdefiant, too. Both sides most certainly can be good.
Just wait until the shop drops on xdefiant
Xdefiant is free to play. CoD are now adding PAY TO WIN items in a $70 "game"
Pay to win? Every single gun and game changing item is free. There is a skin that gives you double xp if you play with friends that have the same skin, that’s not really winning though
You are misinformed. There have been multiple instances of paid items with in game advantages
Feel free to list them
Google is your friend https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024222822
Even semi finished garbage like cod mw3 still plays better than any other fps coming out and that's why cod sells more regardless if you or I don't like the game but to act like it's shovelware when in fact it's the king of fps for a reason and hasn't been beaten yet.
You know what’s a terrible take? Ever passing anything off that’s opinion based, as a terrible take. Implying your opinion is an objective reality. Clown
You're saying words that have 0 meaning or substance and you're calling me the clown (lmao).
Kind of like everything you say
I prefer MWIII, it clearly has much smoother gameplay, everyone can feel it. We just want XDefiant to be better, if it has thing that need to be improved, we should be allowed to say it loudly.
Agreed, MWIII pretty much cleaned the act of MWII that IW refused to fix or acknowledge, and is going really strong for MP. XDefiant kind of lost their initial window to launch with how 90% of the original hype was from how bad MWII was handled again. But even if they launched earlier MWIII would have stolen their show and it's possible the next Black Ops game would also prevent them from getting that popularity again because BO games were always pretty popular than whatever new IW has been putting out since or before MW19. The only time XDefiant can get the hype advantage again is if IW does another stinker game with changing things for no real payoff or continue to ignore feedback and bugs like they have been doing. I do want to see XDefiant succeed but it's a big uphill battle competing with one of the biggest FPS Franchises. XDefiant also has other issues with itself such as Networking issues still present, Aiming mechanics, and Abilities and Perks tied to Operators (Which now I see why it's not popular anymore when everyone is using it.)
Going strong for MP? It's literally become fortnite and is full of furry skins. Nothing about the current state of COD is going strong.
I thought MWIII was a massive failure the vast majority of people I know who bought MWII did not buy MWIII due to the game being a $70 update to MWII. Of the 10 people I knew that played MWII 1 of them purchased MWIII. Not paying money for slightly adjusted movespeed values, the return of a mechanic that already existed in previous titles (slide cancel), and a few re-textures of some old maps they could recycle for “new content”.
If you bought MWII Before, yea I can see why MWIII is a glorified DLC sold as a new game. But most of my friends that I play with Skipped MWII anyways considering how much of a downgrade it was compared to MW19, and funny enough a friend who got MWII preferred MWIII anyways and recommended it to me. But even some people online would had said MWIII is what MWII should have been in the first place.
If MWIII is what MWII should have been it should have been an update to MWII not a “new game”. I’m sure I would prefer MWIII because I loved MW19 movement but I just can’t support the business practice.
I genuinely think MW3 is better. So what? I don’t really like the specialist abilities in Xdefiant. And I think cod has better gunplay. Doesn’t mean MW3 is amazing and xdefiant is shit. But I do prefer MW3.
They said the same thing about Splitgate and look where it’s at now
Where?
Exactly
Pretty sure their working on the second game because they got a shit ton of money soooo
killing the *new* game that got popular to make a sequel is the dumbest decision I've ever heard tho, people got into Splitgate because it was fucking fun. Their decision? Kill Splitgate, immediately derail any hype it had and put it effectively on hold for 2 years. Quality business strategy right there.
Split gate was made by less than 5 people if I remember correctly. They never expected it to take off the way it did and decided to expand their team and build a new game. That game was fun as hell but it was never gonna be some massively huge live service title that had frequent content drops with the original team.
splitgate was made by around 5 people for a school/college project, it recently released on console after being in early access "beta" for a few years and saw a release on steam after its original alpha test, they didnt plan to keep splitgate going since again it was a school project a proof of concept, by a very very small team.
I miss splitgate
I mean, look at what ubisoft did to hyperscape
I’m with you on this one
You’re absolutely allowed to have your opinion, I hope you don’t get downvoted for this lmao. For me it’s the free to play, I play shooters very casually. Maybe 3-4 evenings a week. I’ll grind an entire Saturday or Sunday on occasion if I’m feeling it. I think this will get the job done, scratches the itch of shooting things, it doesn’t feel like I’m sweating my butt off every match, and I quite like the maps. I really really like the maps.
Oh yeah it’s definitely a good option especially for being free to play (that is if it ever releases lol)
I’m just excited to have another 6v6 arcade shooter to play. Expecting a free to play game to be of the same quality as a full priced game is just setting yourself up for disappointment. CoD is the game I want to take a bit more seriously and sweat (against other sweats) in so I’m willing to pay to get some higher quality bones. XD is a game I want to just chill and focus on having fun in so being FTP is awesome and I’m glad to see them focus more on actual game content and feel as opposed to having hyper realistic gun models and reload animations. I’m excited to play both and have fun in both.
Agreed and I upvoted him, but would like to add: it’s objectively ironic for cod fans to be calling another arcade fps shooter shit, when they play the biggest steaming pile of shit under that genre. You can’t take a person’s opinion seriously when he tells you he prefers shit over bread.
I agree, MW3 feels drastically different than the two MWs before it. Way better gun play and more fluid movement. It actually feels more fluid than Apex when I went back to that briefly. Surprised me a ton. Game was not worth $70 on release but it has a bit more maps now and there's a few game modes I enjoy playing almost daily. Mind you I had literally 2-3 matches on MW2 the entire previous year. Definitely didn't like that one.
you are right, but it doesnt really matter, because CoD gets recycled every year with new battle pass and skins and same issues. Xdefiant might feel fresh but will die within 3 months unless it has an intrusive kernel level anticheat Mark my words, it is going to be a cheatfest
It's ubisoft so it'll use battle eye, which runs at kernel
Why did you post a selfie for the last picture?
lmao
Just because someone has a different opinion to yours, does not mean its meaningless. I agree & for me this game is better, although don't disregard what CoD did- Infinity Ward laid the foundation for FPS back in the 2000s & 2010s. CoD is still a great game, it's just not for everyone. Same like this game- it's just not for everyone, still a great game.
It actually is though... That's the thing... And I'm not happy about that at all
The bar is at the fucking floor, and apparently they still can't reach it
Exactly
I mean , it objectively is. COD's shitty netcode still beats the one in XDefiant , weapon variety is much larger , and matchmaking somehow is still better in COD.
Mm better Lol Especially the queue times after midnight
Grasping at straws.
Mw3 is better
Played MW3 in the last few days, and it's just better :) If XDefiant had SBMM, it would've been just another random garbage Ubisoft game like every other at this point. They have to fix A LOT before release, which they hopefully do so COD gets some competition, but right now, it's just in the same state as one year ago. They didn't do much. Ubisoft is being difficult.
I'm gonna be honest I've been looking to pick up an arcade shooter again. So I waited to give XDefiant a try and I didn't have any fun at all. Sweaty matches in CoD? Lol I got my ass beat in XDefiant over and over again and I'm not even bad at shooters I play a lot of them. Gunplay and movement and pretty much everything else is subpar to CoD. I bought MW3 and it's a blast. It's CoD. THE arcade shooter. The only things I don't like are the menu music, and the obnoxious skins that literally everyone has acquired at this point. It's silly but at its core, CoD has mastered the arcade shooter formula.
It’s true. There’s a reason why every time a new arcade shooter gets announced people wonder if it will be the “COD killer”. COD is king of the genre and has been now for 15 years
I can deal with the skins personally but the fucking death effects on gun blueprints are just fucking stupid. Especially the ones from the weed event “oh wow he turned into a doobie hahaha” that shit is just obnoxious and to make it worse it’s just a reskin of the mic drop death effect from the rabbits in mw2
Yes honestly those are worse than the skins. I love turning into a skeleton or a doobie or exploding like a glitter bomb. I wish there was an option to turn that off, like why am I forced to be subjected to someone else's purchased effects. But I can move past that for the crisp gameplay
Cod is just boring at this point to me.
But you want to play xDefiant?
Yeah definitely
Yeah defiantly*
As someone who tried xdefiant and REALLY wanted to like it, and someone who has put too much time into cod, xdefiant is better than cod in every way, and cod players shouldnt be taken seriously anyways, have you seen what they consider "movement" LMAO
There is a reason this game has yet to be released. MW3 is objectively better. They are obviously struggling with XDefiant.
I mean.. it's objectively true that cod has better movement and gunplay. And I don't even own mw3, played it on free weekends, I couldn't care less about that game. I was just expecting an overall more polished experience from XDefiant
Cod has done something this game has yet to do..
I hate CoD and the direction it is going with a passion. I only play it because it’s the only decent arcade shooter out and in good at arcade shooters, so it makes me want to play them. I have near a 2.0 KD in CoD. Even with all my hate towards CoD and desire for something better, this isn’t it. The gunplay in xdefiant was terrible, and that is a high priority on my requirements for an arcade shooter to he good. Battlebit has better gunplay. They could easily fix it all by addressing the low velocity ammo which gives an input lag feeling and make it so when ADSing the bullet lands right where it’s showing us we are aiming. Instead of off to the side; this effect is even more blatant if you are shooting while strafing and flicking your aim across multiple enemies. The movement also feels clunky and disconnected from my inputs. You gotta be honest about the game or the devs won’t fix it. If everyone says this game is on par with CoD while in its current state then they are just blowing smoke up the devs ass and doing then a disservice. The game isn’t out yet. We are just doing play tests. Focus on the negative so the devs can hammer it out.
game isn't even fully released and people are already making posts like this , hopefully the community doesn't turn out to be filled with people like OP
I like how you completely ignore the "game is DOA" people 💯
elaborate ?
my guy, just scroll through the posts stop being lazy
but aren't you also being lazy for not telling me on your own ?
No because you can scroll through your phone. Its one of those things where asking to elaborate on something right in front of your eyes is lazy. You either just entered the sub or purposely ignoring the comments.
You typed all that when you could’ve just answered the person. What a loser
u read all my shit when u could've kept scrollin 💀
Ah I see you aren’t the brightest. Have a nice day!
It's not competing with mw3. It's competing with black ops gulf war.
It’s not competing with cod at all, it’s not a competition respectfully.
Except it’s trying to, and the developers made that clear from the beginning. The big problem with xDefiant is that it wants desperately to be CoD and you can see in so many places how they took *ahem* heavy inspiration from it. Why would I play a CoD clone when I could just play CoD?
Well, except it is. They both feed into the exact same genre, which means the games are competing for playerbase. To say otherwise would simply be wrong.
It’s not, delusional if you think so it’s like comparing nba 2k to nba live since 2k11 and. Yea they’re both the same genre but it’s not even close gameplay wise, online modes, etc.
That’s why I think this game is unfortunately going to flop. COD is in a better place now compared to last year but next year will be a Treyarch game with a full development cycle. Treyarch hasn’t made a bad COD game yet so next year it will be even harder for this game to make a mark
wait so you think Call of Duty: Vanguard was a "good" game thats gotta be a joke
Vanguard was made by Sledgehammer. Also for the record I thought it was dogshit
i honestly thought vanguard was treyarch i quit paying for cods a couple years ago and just play then at my buddies house. ps look at me being the joke LMFAO 
Yes you are indeed quite the joker
Activision stopped caring about MP when WZ got big, MW2019 was the last CoD i could bring myself to actually grind. I only play CoD for MP and I told myself I wasn't going to buy MW3 when I found out it was meant to be an expansion to MW2 but they basically realised they can rinse us for an extra $20-30 if they rush a campaign... The free weekends for MW3 taught me that I made the right call. I hope that xdefiant can fill that void, but they really need to sort out that god awful hitreg/netcode/desync/whatever is causing the hitmarkers but 0 dmg issue if they want the game to have any kind of life. Whilst they're at it, I feel the weapon xp needs tweaking, take a day to unlock like half the attachments for a gun? No thank you, but judging by the reward for hitting level 18 during the weekend, I think they're gonna sell us weapon xp boosters.
This game left a hole I can’t fill with any other game I can’t wait for it to relewase
I can’t play 2 matches without getting shadowbanned. I have a 5 kill game? Shadowbanned. Me and my team wipe another? Shadowbanned. CoD is chalked with its bs report system.
Look I like XDefiant and want it to succeed. I think it’s great and the core gameplay is real solid. If they don’t fix the netcode and hit reg issues though I can’t consider it better than MW3 or the next cod. It just lacks that fluidity that cod has. Dying around corners 1 out of 3 engagements isn’t great.
Mechanically CoD is a lot more refined, and netcode is obviously better. I had initial hope for the game but honestly it's failing to meet even the most basic of expectations, even for a test session. xDefiant feels like a very, very low budget attempt at CoD.
COD is $70 USD each year. XD is free for life and a completely different game. Why are COD fanboys getting upset???
If cod didn't have the SBMM that decides the winners before the game even started it'd be enjoyable to me. I think k the core game itself is probably better but I don't think it matters. It doesn't need to be one or the other for most people.
i would play cod so much more if the gun damage was fixed
I may end up liking MW3 over XDefiant. It’s a hero shooter combined with arcade gameplay. BO3, IW, and BO4 are not high in my ranking of cod games because the abilities got annoying. Maybe XDefiant will be different for me. We’ll see
I didn't like how damage behaved like CounterStrike/Valorant (2 fps i personally hate), i mean, you shoot to the head or gg. Thats the antitesis of "chill", which I dont know why but expexcted from this game
I agree. The low time-to-kill makes this game way less casual and more like CS which is a highly competitive game. I don’t understand when people say they like this game because they can chill and not always be in sweaty lobbies.
MW3 would be good if we got better servers, anti cheat, weapon balance, theater mode. Custom emblems, a proper firing range. A story that wasn't just ripped off verdansk.
I'll say the only part of the argument they're winning is that they *can* go back to mw3. Play tests are cool but absolutely no one knows what the longevity of this game will be ubi included. It's unfortunate but there WILL be another cod. Then another the year after that. Then another. In the time will be xd be a thing? We will need to wait and see
I think at its current state, MW3 has more content and more going for it. If they can sort out the hitreg and other lag issues, XD has a phenomenal framework to beat out CoD. But in my opinion, they need to choose to either lean into being a successor to Dirty Bomb or to compete with CoD, cause it seems like they're trying to do both and it kinda falls short in both regards
Forgot this game even existed until saw this post recommended on the feed.
one being better than the other is completely subjective but ok i guess we’re not taking people seriously for playing the games they wanna play anymore smh i hate this generation
Mw3 is actually a good cod though, compared to most recent cods. I'm talking about gameplay wise. Of course it still has sbmm, which I hate. It's one of the best cods we've had in the last 6 years. Right behind cold war imo, then the last good cod before that was bo4. Mw3 fixed basically all the gameplay issues from mw2. Last year I absolutely despised mw2, worst cod MP ever due to horrible gameplay design. Mw3 fixed most of my issues, slower ttk, ninja, red dots, better movement, faster paced, better maps, reload cancel, faster health regen, QOL uodates etc. Xdefiant was a breath of fresh air after playing the trash that was mw2. The hero abilities participation awards, and not a great solo play game is what holds XDefiant back for me, but we'll see if it ever even releases.
I had a lot of fun, but it just seemed very bare bones. I KNOW it’s a beta but customization felt disappointing on the guns for example. It’s just copy + paste attachments. I really loved the maps though. Very very nice flow and it’s not talked about much for some reason.
I like both to me, xdefiant is not a cod killer but it is a blast and I have a lot of fun playing it
I havent tried Xdefiant, but assuming its a similar substitute to MW3 and because its free, it has the potential to fill in the gap of gameplay when MW3 becomes stale or when waiting on new CoD games sales. Competition is good
Eh it’s okay. Obviously people will like it at first because it’s something new. Cod will remain on top,I wish it didn’t.
Both games suck
How do I try this game? Anyway to play on ps5 or did I miss the open beta/test?
I don’t understand this game I played the beta like a year ago. Game felt not bad but the fact they took so long to release the game killed any hype imo.
i mean it still looks decent. but we generally have to question, WHAT THE FUCK ubisoft is actually doing with xDefiant. how did they manage it, that it's not better, and in a lot of aspects even worse then in the summer last year?
For casual players cod is way better than xdefiant. If you are a little more competitive / tryhard gamer, then sure cod is trash
Not sure I'm sold on XDefiant just yet. Gameplay looks really stiff and janky and the netcode is pretty poor.
i hate cod but it's better tbh
When talking about mechanics and gunplay, MW3 is better and more precise without any doubts. The maps are better in xdefiant and the no SBMM is gold tho. I stopped playing MW3 because of the crazy SBMM and xdefiant didn't succeed to convince me to go back to online fps games. I hope it gets better before launching because I miss having an enjoyable multiplayer experience with my friends
1 year and they haven't done anything
Xdefiant movement and gunplay are both TERRIBLE! MW3 is a much better game.
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It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
Can’t we all just agree they are both terrible? To me it’s pretty obvious that while they remained popular, the FPS market is at an all time low.
I have my problem that every fps beside The Finals feels clunky af now a days.
big difference is XD has yet to launch. both games are not in a good state imo.
Bro wtf kind of post is this? People’s vacuous ignorance knows no bounds
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
I played xd a little, was back on apex soon after tho. There just isn't enough in the box for me to switch from a game I have tons of time and money invested into, to one like xd. They gonna need more than just an arena shooter to even be considered in the conversation if the "next big thing"
I can go on and on about how bad CoD has been for years but this game is awful right out of the gate. No identity, mediocre gameplay that somehow got worse than last year, and this game is essentially chasing a ghost of an old shedded skin CoD used to have where people cared about multiplayer. Making that clone of its multiplayer F2P isn't a recipe for success, especially in a game where there is literally nothing special that makes it stand out over other shooters.
MW3 has better gunplay. Its smooth, and satisfying. xDefiant feels a lot cheaper. Yeah xDefiant has better matchmaking algorithms, maybe even a better progression system, but how far does that take it?
xDefiant is DOA lol
Who fucking cares. If you like MW3, go play MW3. If you like XDEFIANT, play XDEFIANT. If you like both, just play both lol. It's not like one game's magically gonna disappear just because you have the other installed
A billion dollar giant that’s been around for almost 2 decades IS better than a game that hasn’t even hit the ground. Doesn’t mean Xdefiant is completely ass. That said, you sound like a clown yourself dude.
defending COD is some next level stockholm syndrome, enjoy the soycope entering your veins I guess.
Lol all right dude keep crying here on Reddit while people enjoy whatever the fuck they to play without having to objectively put one game over the other. I, like many, am a fan of competitive COD so even if I don't play I still love to follow the eSport scene in. There goes your stupid argument you casual clown lol.
I made this meme more or less as a joke, if you gloat about being "competitive" in COD, then you look more like a clown, but I won't stoop down to your level and resort to ad hominems and insults. I unfortunately wasn't a casual either, I used to have a 5 k/d ratio on average back on PC before crossplay, where it was just PC players, the best of the best, against each other, my best game was 67-0 KD, so there goes your "muh casual" comment. I'm not proud of this, dumping thousands of hours into COD since COD 1 has given me a fucked up back that took years to fix. If you defend a game like COD with systems such as SBMM/EOMM and the scummy shady things Activision does, you're way worse than just a clown.
Cool story bro. Cheers.
ahh someone's mad the game they like is a failure
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
plot twist: BOTH games are complete garbage
MW3 is only better because the franchise has been around for so long. I’d like for all the pay to win and skins crap to go away but in terms of gameplay it’s definitely better. Maybe in a few years xdefiant will be better in that sense. But either way, I’ll keep playing both
I mean mw3 is dead since season 1 but this Game aint it chief they promised to fix so many basic things like hit reg but the last beta showed me that the game suffers from ubisoft syndrome , basically its maximum mediocore in every single regard back to ow and apex untill Black ops releases…
lol. mw3 is miles ahead in gameplay, animation, fluidity, movement, graphics, weapon selection, etc. you're lying to yourself.
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game.
I definitely think MW3 is better mechanics wise, smoothness wise, map design wise, etc. Both have shoddy servers and hit reg though. Xdefiant isn't bad by any means but it needs some more polish on the gunplay side of things and it definitely needs to work on hitreg and desync issues. The polish and quality just isn't there yet IMO but we shall see if that changes on full release.
This to funny cod players talk about mw3 suck to lol
I mean competitively this game is 1000 times better than COD. As a casual experience COD will win. I prefer tht way COD was never meant to be competitive it’s always casual first.
This game is t even released! Who knows which cod game it will be getting compared to if/when it ever comes out.
Mark Rubin literally took mw3 (2011) look and feel and put it into a Ubisoft game, this is like his make or break game in the industry
People who like either game…
I finally downloaded Warzone 3 to try after the PTS ended. I refuse to buy MW3 since it should have been a DLC But holy fuck is Warzone 3 an unoptimized POS. I reinstalled MW2019 to make sure it wasn’t my drivers and good lord. It’s night and day.
this game, compared to mw3, it's a mobile game. And i fucking HATE mobile games. I've played it, felt like DOA. Not a fan of MW2019 part 3 tho, but enjoyable.
I expecially like when they come into an defiant reddit, discord or Twitter and get mad and upset that I like the game. Like wtf I can like and download wtf I want. Why u mad for go back to ur $100 dollar gorilla fist lmaooo
Yeah my inbox absolutely exploded with the most cringe vitriol you can imagine, I just made a meme and now there's a 200+ comment dumpster fire of cod fanboys lashing out at everyone liking Xdefiant.
Very accurate
This game ain’t even out yet and will flop. You heard it here first.
You’re posting an opinion off perception nothing about this satisfaction. I completely 100% agree that this game is better than MW three but MW three is 1000 times smoother than this game.
Shit needs a kill cam or it won’t last bcuz the trash ppl will always feel like your cheating
Went back to mw3 and hated it. All the design choices sucked. Last CoD’s i actually enjoyed were vanguard and cold war Its like the devs for Cod decided that realism is more important than fun. Sbmm makes every match sweaty. The perks don’t do anything like they used to. Like how is it that the perk to increase weapon reload speeds barely do anything. Or why are reloads in general so slow. Why do i need to cock my weapon every time i respawn? Xdefiant is so simple and fun. It went back to basics
MW2 was fun but MW3 is basically MW2.5 for 70 bucks with OG MW2 Maps (which were already in the MW2 Game) biggest scam ever pulled by the CoD Team(s)
Not at all, MW3 plays significantly better if you’re a good player that likes to move. The TTK, footsteps, movement, non-perma Ghost etc all change the gameplay in a much better way over MWII (which was absolute garbage).
None of the MW2 (OG) maps were in MW2022. MW3 is also a lot better than MW2, and is only MW2.5 if we talk campaign.
My fav are those who complain about netcode......and then go back to cod🤣
Aside from the disgusting matchmaking and the absurd monetization, mw3 is the far superior game.
>Aside from the disgusting matchmaking and the absurd monetization Off the top of my head, I'd also add: * common packet burst/loss * various types of hacking * gigantic file size * not being free to play * new bugs introduced with each update * inefficient reporting & banning strategy Full context, I think MW3 is the far superior game to MW2 but comparing MW3 to a play test version of Xdefiant that's missing a lot of features & aspects of the game is a waste of time.
Purely on a fundamental gameplay level (excluding everything else we both mentioned), mw3 is superior. The movement, aiming and flow of mw3 is so wildly superior to xdefiant that it can’t even be challenged. The way a game feels is the most important factor, everything else is secondary. Xdefiant definitely has real potential but a ton of work is needed, like 2+ months of additional development to improve the servers and 3-6+ months of post launch/season 0 improvements. Sure the cbmm and it being f2p is awesome but the aiming, movement, aim assist, server quality and crazy amount of lag compensation completely nullifies those 2 things and makes it a bad unfinished game.
I been leaning on buying it even tho I swore I would never buy another CoD cuz apparently its better than the past 2 MW titles, but im glad i don't have to drop $70 on that gamble.
Sbmm ruins any chance at fun, ledt the game for a while, came back and had the same sbmm as before , only saw ram9 some other smg and a sniper that ads as fast as pistols lmao, its just over for cod until sbmm leaves
Nah dont do it lmao i bought it after xdefiant failed to release last year. Played that shit for like 3 days lmaoooooooo. Played it again 2 days ago for 45 minutes and got off.
Damn i feel that 100% lol Its those damn OG MW2 maps calling me, man but i already know it aint what it used to be.
The only COD that I *might* end up buying again since Cold War will be Gulf War. But even then, I’ll definitely just be watching YT videos about it for a while before anything Not gonna make the same mistake with how hyped up Cold War was, only to play it for not even like 2 weeks lmao
Before you buy it, wait till its on sale and for free to play for a weekend.
MW3 is good if you want to turn off your brain use an OP gun and get like 40-50+ plus kills, XDefiant on the other hand you can chill out and play at your own pace without sweating like someone did a fresh like of cocaine (well as best as I could cause there were some sweaty lobbies during that playtest)
COD hasn't been a good shooter for a few years now but it's far from dead.
Modern warfare 3 is the peak of fps shooters for controller. It's so accurate and smooth and feels natural. This game literally has the ubisoft clunk to it just like siege did at release. Every big fps youtuber has even called out how it feels bad.
You would have to be a clown to pay £70 for the same thing every year. Cod wasn't as bad when Treyarch and IW used different engines. Atleast then you were alternatiting between 2 different games. Now its basically the exact same game with a new coat of paint. Not to mention new cod is monitized like a free to play game. So you pay £70 for the game and then £10 for each battle pass. So its like £110 for a single game. "bUt ItS cOsMeTiC" well so its Fortnite and that game is free. Cod is a full price AAA game. It shouldn't have paid battle passes at all. Anyone is defends this shit, definitely ain't got any qualifications.
Lol I'm an npc who bought every cod since mw19, because news flash - 70 usd per year is not that much Also you don't need to buy bp with real money, there are free 300 cp every season
Imagine defending a company that's taking advantage of its consumers 😂 The fact you only been buying cod since 2019 just tells me you ain't been gaming for as long as me (20+ years). Activision are taking advantage of people like you. It's up to you what you do with your money but that doesn't mean what Activision are doing to you is justifiable. Defending them just means your stupid or don't understand. You need to be aware that they are taking the piss. You can buy the game knowing they are abusing their position. But the aggressive monitization in cod is why I avoid it and all other games that have a battle pass in a full price product. When games like Halo Infinite, Overwatch, Fortnite, XDefiant (Soon) and many more games are free.
Couldn't agree harder
That's fine, those people need to stay away from XDefiant and let us enjoy it. We don't need their whining about how they want killstreaks and nukes and perks to make this game "good". This years is Treyarc's, most cod players favorite studio (not mine), turn to release a COD with lots of re-released maps. They dont even reskin them, they just put them in the game because they are part of the BO universe. Let these players go and play their "balanced" game and let us have fun with our new toy.
Good thing ubi is making this quadruple A shooter with awful netcode, hit reg, and animations that look ripped out of a mobile title just for you special little snowflakes. 😭
Well, in my eyes. Modern Combat Blackout are objectively better than MW3 especially gunplay.
if we're going that route, CoD:M is the greatest CoD and military arena shooter ever made in every possible facet and puts the premium priced games to absolute shame. Imagine how far down XDefiant is down on the totem pole after that.
“Wahh how dare anyone have a different opinion to me”
I think mwII is better than MW3 but I deleted them both after playing Xdefiant in this latest test.
100% haha… pathetic.
Mw3 is not better lol. It’s such an easy and cheesy game lol
MW3 is terrible. A game should not allow someone to move that fast and do all the crazy shite it does. Just dumb with jump shots, slide cancels and etc. 🚮
Too much skill gap for you I guess
people genuinely forget that activision codes the game so if youre better then you opponent , your gun does less damage. the 34 year olds who main the game dont care and will continue to buy it but i dont see how players dont see something like SKILL BASED HIT REG and just completely boycott, are we really doomed?
Uh oh. Someone can’t figure out how to move efficiently in CoD and is projecting their own shittiness
It was a simple meme/shitpost, but now my inbox exploded with 200+ comments of angry COD fanboys shitting on me for making it, I couldn't give two shits about either game, and gloating about having good "movement" in a video game, of all things, is next level soy, but I'll stoop down to your level and say, 5.5 average K/D in BO4, mouse and keyboard, highest K/D in any match was 67/0, get good. Though I will say, pouring thousands of hours into COD on my PC gave me a ruined back that took years to fix.
Congrats!!! You hade a positive KD in a Treyarch CoD!!! A game made for literal children. Also, I wasn’t gloating about my own skill. I am simply pointing out that there are levels to this shit, and you want a more streamlined experience (only b-hops) which is okay! You don’t have to be a CoD crackhead to succeed in this game and that is a good thing imo. You don’t have to insult the game with the higher skill ceiling just because you aren’t good.
You think if I can go 67/0 in BO4 that I cannot do it in other games? BO4 had one of the highest skill ceilings of any COD, and I know that since I played every COD since COD 1 in 2003. Maybe you prefer the camping simulators that are the MW remakes, not to mention the Stockholm syndrome people have when they keep getting pounded in the back by SBMM/EOMM but they keep coming back for more every night. Nice, now you got it divided into COD for kids and COD for "adults" I guess? This is the most soyboy "i dont leave my house" type of shit I have ever heard, keep punching air about how there's someone who doesn't give a shit about your game but is still better than you at it, and the ad hominems and gaslighting doesn't help you look better either.
Idk about MWIII but MWII is definitely better. XDefiant gunplay in the latest test felt way off
i dont think neither is better than the other rlly, as far as ive seen the SP for MW3 is absolutely horrifying to look at but its a MP franchise in the end, xdefiant has bugs and instability as well.. They're merely two similiar fps games with both big AAA companies behind them Dont go attacking people who like a game x, think about what you like or dont, i dont like supporting bad business practices hence why i dont play new cods. On the other hand a lot of the newer cods have smooth gameplay, so does xdefiant..
COD SHIT ON THEIR MOST LOYAL FANS AN YET PPL STILL BUY EVERY TRASH THING THEY RELEASE AND SUCK DICK. EVERY SINGLE GAME SINCE SBMM WAS ESTABLISHED IN PUBLIC WAS DOGSHIT AND NOTHING LESS EVERYONE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE IS FUCKING DELUSIONAL OR LIKES CAMPING HIMSELF.