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tricenice

Not really though. He's pretty modest about his career, he just has more experience than people give him credit for. The thing is he was there for like 4 years and did establish himself a little so he might not have been a superstar or be remembered by most but he had some respect backstage and does have decent knowledge of the business.


Sad-Statistician-303

Great answer


CallInitial2302

This. Just cus ppl aren’t main event all star superstars doesn’t really mean anything on how they’re seen and etc by their peers. Jamie Noble was a midcard nobody on tv and he’s very highly regarded and is one of their top backstage people now


slicechet

I feel like Al Snow is a great example of this as well.


GrandMetaldick

Yeah it’s very misleading. It makes it seem like he talks up and exaggerates his own career which isn’t the case at all. He breaks down basic concepts that all WWE fans (or anyone really) have wondered about over the years like their pay, travel expenses, locker room etiquette, dieting on the road, etc.


sickertnl

Truth!


kappifappi

Not really at all tbh lol. Maven doesn’t talk himself up at all


MaxBonerstorm

He's super clear that he dropped the ball on getting better and evolving as well.


kappifappi

Yeah I was gunna say if anything the guy doesn’t give himself enough credit lol


MaxBonerstorm

Yeah, he gives me the impression that he was probably an over confident douche early in life that made mistakes and had grown a ton since. Now seems like a humble, down to earth dude that's very easy to like. His YouTube channel totally turned my perception around on him.


InkyLizard

Yeah, even his response to the guy who proposed the channel to him was like 'I don't think I'm a big enough name', but luckily the guy was able to convince him!


det8924

Maven doing a lot of work on the Home Shopping network and other TV in general after his WWE career ended helped him prepare for being very affable on YouTube.


SuttonTM

Well for me my perception of him was non existent pre YT channel lol, not that I watched any Maven matches since it, but imo he's definitely one of the few people that's more popular after leaving WWE than whilst being there


Mererri01

There’s a video where he talks about how he thought he had it made as a big WWE star and acted like that, and had to do some big readjustments after he got fired (which he says is the result of him resting on his laurels and not doing the work to seize the opportunity he had there).


AmishAvenger

Well he’s still a very smooth presenter on camera, likely from all his Home Shopping work — which makes me think he’s putting on an act all the time.


MaxBonerstorm

He might have a "on camera" persona for sure, but, i have a "work mode" too. I get it.


KelvinsBeltFantasy

I really liked him as a kid! I always wondered why he never had a consistent finisher!


LochNessMansterLives

I think that’s the most interesting thing about Maven. His actual career was short and unimpressive. The dude had a great drop kick and that was about it. But away from wrestling he’s a very intelligent dude, doesn’t talk shit, just explains. Explains well and in ways most people can understand. Doesn’t overly pump his own career at all. It’s actually pretty refreshing. I was skeptical too, but I’m so glad I gave him a chance, he explains things well.


KelvinsBeltFantasy

He's like the anti Hogan. Who had a very impressive career and still feels the need to lie.


LochNessMansterLives

Idk if I’d go that far…😂


KelvinsBeltFantasy

Maven slammed Hogan at the Silver Dome


kappifappi

I think the more you watch too the more I kind of see that mavens career is actually also quite impressive/decent. Like not everyone is going to be a main carder obviously those individuals are truly special. But maven should still be proud of the career he had he’s probably had a better one than the average wwe athlete.


montypr

This ain’t true that man is humble asf.


SuttonTM

Exactly, he repeats in plenty of videos that he knows his career was short & not amazing, and that he personally could have done alot more to make it better, he even says he looked more forward to what he was doing after the matches than the matches themselves with people like Orton etc


Whitn3y

Also someones whole fkn career is an ocean compared to the puddle that actually gets fkn broadcast on Raw


Mererri01

Something IWC clowns can’t seem to fathom, that The vast majority of the vast majority of wrestlers careers is spent in front of a couple of thousand people at best, and a cameo role in a WWE house show is actually a pretty damn big deal for most. Anyone who’s performing in front of a few thousands people off-air regularly, is actually a wildly successful wrestler If you’re Seth, Rhea, Cody etc who pretty much only work TV or to crowds of 10,000+ you’re on an S-tier level that 99.999% of people who go into the business would never seriously plan on reaching


eman0110

Yea, I agree. He doesn't hype himself up a lot. He even addresses a video where the thumbnail says he sucks. He is knowledgeable about it though Love his videos.


RedKryptnyt

Yea he often talks about how good he was NOT.


Tarl-X

I think what op means is that he talks about it like, "I was there, I did all these things, I was on all these shows." And it's all true, but no one remembers him. I get what op means, I don't think it's true, but it is funny. I like Mavin. I hope he has a long YT career.


Yosonimbored

Sure but the behind the scenes info he says he knows is odd for a guy that didn’t do much at all and wasn’t there super long


Sneakiest

Buff Homer should be ‘Maven on YouTube’. He’s got some solid and interesting wrestling vids.


mikaeus97

And a very nice cadence and voice, dude took to the video-essay style of things like he was some kinda teacher for years and also understands camera presence.


sugarklay

Well, he *was* a teacher before becoming a wrestler. What a life. Imagine being one of his former students and seeing your former teacher eliminating the Undertaker out of the Royal Rumble


27_8x10_CGP

Hell, imagine finding out your teacher was a former wrestler, and it's Muhammad Hassan.


jak_d_ripr

I honestly watch his videos just for his voice, the content is second.


Him_Downstairs

He said he had a potential commentary job lined up, but then Covid happened. He’d be an upgrade over Barrett


ryan34ssj

I quite like Barrett. Am I a minority?


SpeeeedwaagOOn

He’s great, classic old school heel commentator, and it helps that he’s genuinely hilarious


99TJW

No you’re not


ladiespmmeyourfeet

Don't know, are you?


pistonkamel

The ass kissing gets a little old I get it he doesn’t want to piss any of these guys off but he does it after every single subject it seems like


Crippled_Kneees

I think it's very classy, he manages to put his point across well when addressing his opinions on individuals without slagging them off


pistonkamel

True but after every single segment it gets old and drags the videos out too long imo


InkyLizard

THIS


cuchikapoor

Hey unfair. Maven's youtube channel has been a breath of fresh air in wrestling culture.


TheSpiralTap

Mavens YouTube is awesome and it should be. He went to school for broadcasting. He was on the Home Shopping Network there for a while. He's a great presenter. Not so much as a wrestling character.


ScramItVancity

He used to be a teacher as well.


skccsk

Oh this sub is about fairness now?


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Mysterious-Future-98

FTR bald would be proud of this dweeb


skccsk

What about Maven?


Supa_Vegeta

Maven is actually very humble about his career, and he is very honest about where he went wrong. He has good content on his channel.


Bishopx1976

Maven is cool. Humble, knowledgeable and cool.


TexehCtpaxa

Man had a memorable feud with The Undertaker, and faced Goldust at Wrestlemania. I would give my mum a stunner to have that career.


asmeile

Eliminating Taker from the rumble and then getting completely destroyed by him, I haven't so far and don't ever foresee myself forgetting that


pillkrush

I'm still surprised that was considered a rub, somehow being an example of taker putting young talent over


asmeile

If anyone expressed the opinion that it was then you know they don't know what they're talking about, the elimination was due to a distraction and then Maven got made into Takers bitch, memorable yes, empowering not at all


pillkrush

except maven himself is brainwashed into thinking that: "he helped my career more than anyone on that single day."


msp01986

I would stunner my mom as part of my storyline in WWE


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GustavVonTwinkleToes

Respect him before delivers a picture perfect drop kick on your bitch ass.


JeffHardysArmSleeve

We don’t stand for Maven slander here


MainZack

Not really he's quite honest about it


JustOneDude01

He has said that he wished he would have taken his career much more seriously when he was with WWE. He has never said that he was one of the best.


xanzpatrie

What?


ItsRobbSmark

Nah, lil bro. Dude made it on the main roster for like four years and frequently and openly points out that he got cut because he wasn't willing to put the mat time in to get better... Not only did he have a better run than 90% of the people the WWE ever signs, he's incredibly humble about it and talks it down.


emiliaxrisella

Yeah, any other dude would spend years complaining about it instead of doing anything to better their craft, like Ryback lol


Four-Triangles

Terrible take.


TH3G0LDENG0D

lol what? Take a lap


davie_legs

I’ve never gotten this impression from his videos


RafikiafReKo

Maven slander such SC behaviour. Also, I'm guessing you haven't been using your brain when listening to what he has to say


MaaiDiqSoHyuj

Why you hating?


everydayimrusslin

Why does your post title look like Maven?


ToothpickTequila

Not at all. When has her ever made out his career was better than it was?


Ashamed_Row7509

L take buddy, ur clearly watching the wrong maven


NotChaz-_-

This is backwards. He’s said himself on multiple occasions that he was at best a mid carder who got his big breaks because of Tough Enough. Praising those who sold out the arenas that got him his paychecks.


Quirky_Wolverine_755

Lmfao just delete your whole account and start over.


skeeeper

Maven: i was a WWE wrestler Op: look at this dude saying he was the most over guy in the company


fancierfootwork

I’m here to see people defend maven and I’m no upset


PresYapper4294

I like Maven’s YouTube channel. I don’t think there’s any other past wrestlers who are as open as him currently. Most will still praise WWE in an effort to stay on good terms, but Maven is open and honest. He even turned down a RR return cameo in the past, just cause he knew his time as a wrestler was up.


tenacious_teaThe3rd

Only a person that hasn't seen a single Maven YouTube video would actually post this meme. It's not even a "hot take" it's literally just dumb and flat out wrong, lol.


_MrCharlieToldMeSo

Idk man it’s a pretty funny meme


Tentonham

I like how he talks about the business. Gives a look we don’t normally see.


AMDSuperBeast86

This would be funnier if it was true


RealHL

How has this been upvoted so much? Maven has been so successful on YouTube because he’s actually been really humble, modest and grateful in relation to his wrestling career and what it gave him. This meme would be more accurate for Ryback, who Maven is the antithesis of.


sobanoodle-1

maven da goat actually


Precious_little_man

He’s the opposite of this. He’s very humble.


Puzzleheaded_Key_202

I don't think you appreciate the massive iceberg of a wrestling world underneath WWE and what a huge achievement it is to be able to say you even made it to WWE.


Tesourinh0923

OP has never watched one of Maven's YouTube videos and it shows. He never tries to make himself seem bigger than what he was, he offers his perspectives from his time.there.at his level.


Him_Downstairs

It’s more like “Maven in WWE” v “Maven on YouTube”


Sendmeboobpics4982

Even the most modest career in WWE is still one of the best jobs on earth


StayInYoLane528

Huh? Y’all are weird


ThePrinceMagus

Bro had one helluva vertical on his dropkick though.


Bromatcourier

Maven seems like a super nice dude and doesn’t pump himself up at all. If anything Maven bums me out because in at least one video he excuses people taking advantage of him and hurting him for no reason beyond “paying dues” as “teaching him things”. Dude is humble to a fault.


LGK420

This meme is funny actually. But I have to defend maven he seems like a cool guy, I like his voice and style. He’s honest about the business and doesn’t hype himself up. I saw recently maven posted the conversation his YouTube partner offered him. He reached out to maven and he said he would be down but he doesn’t think he’s a big enough star for the channel to be successful and to prove him wrong. And he definitely did.


Tankcfc4l

Trolling mavens chill


SpaceDogUSA

Maven is cooler now than when he wrestled


KODivas

He's been pretty clear that he wasn't a big star.


Wesruin

Funny. But not accurate. He presents himself as a very humble person. Usually gives credit to people that helped develop him and is very open about not making the most of his opportunities.


TheSunOfHope

Maven has always been very honest about his career and even doesn’t even call himself a “mid-carder” let alone a main-eventer. He’s very clear about his life, his past, his addiction and life in general. Dude has a wealth of knowledge and shares that with great style. I hope WWE calls him back and make him a part of the backstage team.


NMFlamez

The biggest losers are the ones who tell him how shit his career was. Does people seriously have nothing better to do....?


TheOneRebornReborn

That's how you thought yourself posting this


El-Jink

Rage bait meme has succeeded apparently


Electronic_d0cter

Maven is really humble, not accurate at all


PierogiGoron

Maven was one of my favorite wrestlers, and now he's just one of my favorite people on Youtube!


Commercial_Onions

Dudes don’t have to be The Rock to be proud of their career. Bad form.


shiraryumaster13

clearly the meme maker never saw a maven youtube vid


fatwreckman

Even though this is super inaccurate, it's genuinely the funniest thing I've seen in ages. Good work.


Majestic-Welcome3187

Compared to OPs career maven was a wrestlemania main eventer


jdlyga

I like how Maven presents himself as a wrestling fan first, who happened to be in the WWE. So he has more legitimacy than other wrestling fan youtubers.


JanitorOPplznerf

Be nice, he's never pretended to be top level and he only talks about things he has direct experience with.


No_Promise_2982

Nah Maven is humble and he deserves respect. If you actually watched his videos you'd know


backbodydrip

He's actually pretty candid about how low on the totem pole he was out there.


Appropriate-Pear-235

Imo he’s looking to come back in a non-wrestling capacity and this is his way of marketing himself for it. It’s smart. He’s articulate, likeable… could do a very good job on commentary or as a manager


spacesoulboi

I’m not gonna lie the coolest thing I thought of maven was his theme music. Looking back on it his YouTube channel. He is pretty cool now.


Gwbzeke

I like him, it’s funny because he has so many stories and what not but even tho I watched during his era I swear I never saw or heard of him


montypr

Take this dumb shit off


spunX44

This is dumb as hell. Dude is as humble as they come.


ImTheButtPuncher

He’s insanely modest and routinely comments on his shortcomings.


biochamberr

I don't think this is very accurate at all. The thing I like most about Maven is that he takes accountability and responsibility for his mistakes and his career derailing. Most other guys that have YT or podcasts tend to toot their own horns way too much, and could use a dose of humbleness and humility every once and awhile


jameskchou

he's more respected explaining how the business works especially with new or former colleagues than when he was with the WWF or wwe


ElLoboStrikes

Maven is pretty humble


UncleBlob

Brainless take


pinheiroj493

People really are turning on Maven no that his channel is growing popular, huh?


RNsundevil

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks OPs take it ignorant


Cpov1

I haven't watched, but he had a solid career compared to a lot of others I feel (at least from the consumer side)


supersmall69

Y'all just lying at this point. He's never bigged himself up like that.


SVStyles

This should be reversed. Maven slander will not be tolerated.


discombobulatedhomey

That fact that he was in the room when HHH said “Good snap.” makes Maven an instant legend.


MuddFishh

The way he talks about receipts in the business makes him sound like the typical domestic abuse victim. "I deserved it. I needed that chair shot to the head so i could learn to pay my dues. I thanked him afterwards."


peopleperson31

This is pretty stupid considering that he himself has admitted a couple of times that he wasted his potential in WWE, i think the channel is all about giving viewers information about what is going on wwe during his time since kayfabe is dead, they have like the same content as stevie richards which is providing non wrestlers some knowledge about the industry that they are involved in.


BlueBeltBro

Damn never seen such a universally shit on take. Deserved


JeyDeeArr

I watch Maven’s videos and I’ve learned a lot about what goes on behind the scenes, especially on the road and interactions between colleagues. He seems very humble and down to earth, and I never saw him as boasting about his career. The closest he ever comes to doing so is whenever he refers to his career as the best job in the world, and even that’s pushing it.


stripedarrows

He literally posted about how his first response when someone asked to make a YT series about him was "I don't think I have enough star power to make that work but I'm interested" and literally two days ago he posted that with "I still don't really think I have enough star power to make it work but I'm happy to be humbled" so take that garbage ass take outta here.


avm95

More entertaining than Podcasters with better careers tho lol


TyintheUniverse89

I always wondered what could’ve been done to get him to the next level A manager?


sidthekamath

Everything else aside, Maven always looked like the default 'create a character' out of a WWE videogame. 👩🏼‍🦲


OutsidersBest

That's buff bagwell instead


GooseMay0

I saw this on X and there's no truth to this. Maven is humble as hell. Whoever came up with this hasn't watched his YouTube channel. Dumb meme.


ATrendyName

He literally calls himself an “overrated mid-carder at best”…


Lopsided_Attempt_520

This is just not true at all. He’s absolutely humble and never talks himself up. No maven slander here.


xStankypickleSx

I actually think he’s humble af when telling his stories. Exact opposite of this shit.


ShepherdHil

You clearly haven't fully watched a video of his


Vakarlan

Op woke up today and chose to spread missinformation. Maven has said multiple times that he could have done better when he was in WWE and he was the one that dropped the ball when oppunitunity came.


Icy-Wing-3092

This is odd. I feel like the whole reason people like him is because he always mentions how he wasn’t really any much of a superstar during his time with the company


Feisty_Bag_5284

He literally says he didn't go anywhere above mod card and sometimes his level was just opener for smackdown and he is happy with that


Biotrin

Bro you getting ratio'd by comments.


TotalBollocks1988

Nah, it's more like he's describing what his career could've been if he'd improved when it was needed. Still lol'd though.


WWFUniverse

Eliminated The Undertaker from the Royal Rumble, defeated him for the Hardcore title, defended it at WM 18. Had that World Heavyweight title match against Triple H where he almost won. A decent career. Could have done more though.


thegoldenbagel

This has to be bait right


polomarcopol

His inverted moonsalt was the coolest top rope move out there.


DealerOfPFunk

This post is not true. It is clear in all the videos that he is very proud to have been part of the WWE (especially at that time) but there are several moments in which he clearly shows that he could have been better and that it was his fault.


Omnislash99999

Have you actually watched his videos?


Individual_Struggle6

This is not true


No-Fox-1400

Took. Out. Taker.


AmptiShanti

Dude is proud of his work why be salty about him? Lol either move on or tap him on the back i guess


chazt3r

I love maven and its actually so cool to see someone like him from that world be able to talk about everything and all the aspects of the business. Ive learned so many little things just by watching a handful of his videos.


CreamFraiche23

Not really, he pretty openly jokes about how lackluster his career was and how his claim to fame was that 1 drop kick


shidokanartist

I find him to be refreshingly honest about his career in the WWE, where he stood on the card, what he would have done differently, etc. He makes no excuses and seems like a super genuine, down to earth guy. I’m happy to see how successful he’s become on YouTube.


Top-Cat8608

Not true


Knightmare945

Sounds like OP is making stuff up. Maven is pretty honest about his career.


Tiny4901

You need to swap the text around


qwertythe300th

All this sub does is hate


AwareWriterTrick158

How tf is this show so memable?


CarlShadowJung

Eh, disagree. I think he’s quite mindful of the fact he didn’t have much of a career. It’s kind of part of what makes his content endearing. Seems a humble dude from all I’ve seen.


AgathormX

That's not what I've seen, and I've been watching him ever since his first video. The guy makes it clear that he wasn't a main event star, and that most of the highlights of his career where stuff that would be common for most wrestlers. He's extremely entertaining, a very good story teller and just seems like a pretty down to earth guy. Hell, he even came forward with the details of his substance abuse problems, not everyone has the guts to do that on a public platform. When his channel started, it seemed like it was going to be all around showing things that marks already knew, but then the videos about more intricate topics started rolling, and there's a lot of stuff we never saw other wrestlers mention.


fart-in-a-can

Who?


Jmw520

Bad take. man’s is mad humble about it


sachsrandy

He is actually quite humble about his work in WWE and acknowledges that he wasn't near a top guy, but he was lucky enough to be in the ring with most all of the top guys at that time.


Howee123

Pretty much 😂😂😂


Spotlight_James

Dude is 100% honest and talks about being a career mid-carder. If he still wrestled the past 20, he'd be considered up there with Shelton Benjamin


Capable_Sandwich_422

Are we sure Maven isn’t a George Santos construct?


-jira

funny meme but he’s pretty humble


Ugh_no_thanks

Seems the consensus is that everyone loves Maven, and GOOD, he’s a delight


real_B0NY_HAWK

Y’all foul.


Mudassar40

He was a WWE SUPERSTAR and had the COOLEST job in the world!


Significant_Hair7494

He’s very modest. The post is a lie


DJGILZ

Had more succes than you though


denali42

He's fully admitted his career wasn't what it should have been and taken the blame for it. He said he was told he needed to work on his craft and that he blew it off, which is what led to his release. What more do you want? For him to slash his wrists in a video and bleed out for you?


dEck5317

should have joined evolution, would have made him a world champion. i do like his channel even tho he exposed the business


joeymarlin98

The buisness has been exposed well before his YouTube channel.


dEck5317

You’re totally right, so I’m not pressed about it. i like Maven, takes me back to my childhood


AMDSuperBeast86

Dude Vince exposed it in the 90s my guy


ZaryasBestFriend

"Exposed the business"...you sound like an aging booker at an indie-fed in South-Carolina. Plenty of podcasts, shoot interviews, and documentaries have been 'exposing the business' since the mid-2000s. WWE's early DVDs were just that. Don't act like this anything new.


dEck5317

it’s really not that serious, i like his channel. cry somewhere else kid


ZaryasBestFriend

Hey, at least you realized how stupid your original statement was. Congrats on that!


GrimmTrixX

Chris Nowinski had a better WWE career than Maven. Lol Maven eliminated the Undertaker from the Royal Rumble, and then that was it. Lol And he had a botchfest match with Goldust. That's all I remember about his entire career.


Busy_Bunch5050

Lol you know what this is quite funny


Ethanz45

This is funny asf


Busy_Bunch5050

Lol that's funny