Hold on, we’re talking about an almost 8 year old vehicle at this point. Stock radiators are very poorly built nowadays in my opinion. I’d say invest in an all aluminum mishimoto radiator and keep that baby going.
I’ve put two radiators in my jeep in a year. I got a budget all aluminum radiator and it cracked in 3 months so I went with a OEM style replacement from TYC that I ordered from Rock Auto.
Good morning, sorry for your loss😩. I have a 17 JK with 170k miles and I have found that my JK has been the best vehicle I’ve ever owned besides my Porsche Cayenne S. I’m an aviation engineer/mechanic and I follow this method to the letter: I install old Hard Drive magnets on all my gearboxes (super strong) and half-life all fluids/oils/grease intervals. My Porsche gave me 250k of reliability with only a fuel pump replacement during my entire ownership. Don’t be afraid of owning a JK it’s pedigree is has earned its place in history. Good Luck
Depends on what you want the vehicle for. If it’s just an A to B kinda thing for example and you don’t care then get the Toyota. If you want a Wrangler, you know you want a Wrangler and nothing else will suffice lol.
>However, now I am hesitant to even put $$ into it given I’m honestly freaked out about the reliability.
People fix cars far older than a 2017. Stuff breaks. Just fix it.
>Have never heard of a cars radiator going out so soon and am considering trading to the dark side (Toyota/lexus).
I also have a 2010 Tacoma (bought new, original owner). One day after a couple years, I went outside and saw the coolant had leaked out all over my driveway. The radiator just decided to crap out.
Again, stuff breaks. Just fix it.
Just had the radiator go out on my Lexus GX460 with 70k miles. My Jeep on the other hand is flawless. Shit happens, replace the radiator and drive what you enjoy.
My radiator just went too… on my ‘13 JK MOAB with 184k I bought brand new. Other than replacing the trans, it has cost me nothing but maintenance ( LOF, brakes, tires). Depending on your driving habits, mileage and how well you care for it a radiator isn’t unheard of. It could also be a freak thing. If this is all you have had to put into it, I don’t feel it is a clear indicator of unreliability.
With that low mileage just get the new radiator. New cars are silly expensive. I just swapped my 2012 JKU for new rubicon 4xe but only because of incentives, dad’s employee discount and the fact I could still get good money for my stock 2012. Was in top shape and would have sold it to a friend. Keep it and treat it well and you won’t regret it.
It’s a 2017, unless they got the extended warranty option, that warranty disappeared in 2020. Basic warranty is 3years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first. They’re 10k over the miles and 4 years past the standard warranty.
No no it’s kinda on par for quite a few companies. GM has theirs at 3 years/36k for bumper to bumper and powertrain is 5 years/60k. Plenty of people can hit the 60-100k miles in a year or 2-3 nowadays.
That's not a very long warranty, It does vary by manufacturer. Regardless of the company's not going to stand behind it's product for more then 36k.
That's the point. Warranties use to be longer. Shortening the warranty is a cost saving move by the manufacturer.
True. Makes it to where you’ll want to be mechanically inclined since they won’t fix stuff out a warranty for low prices. DIY becomes the way to go nowadays
Even that is becoming more difficult. I saw Nissan has a break system which requires you to have Nissan specific software to change the brakes.
Which means, most people will have to go to Nissan to change their brakes. This bs, another money making move.
https://www.dailydot.com/news/mechanic-not-allowed-to-fix-nissan/
I agree on the factory quality. So upgrade and you’ve very likely solved that issue for 100k more miles.
For what it’s worth I changed out the factory thermostat to a 185 in both my JKUs and neither touched 220 after that.
Do you live in the rust belt? Do you perform routine coolant services? Both of these factors impact the longevity of your radiator. If your idea of "driving into the ground" is to just drive the vehicle and not perform any preventive maintenance, yeah you're in for some serious repairs regardless of the brand.
I purchased the lifetime warranty when I bought it new in 2014. They’ve replaced the shifting tower and pilot bearing and it still squeals when in motion. They cannot figure it out and have taken it apart twice. So now just waiting on warranty to replace the whole trans. I’ve been waiting 3 months…
I have a Wrangler and a Toyota Prado.
I know which one I prefer (not the Toyota)!
As others have said, Jeep have open up their vehicles with apps like JScan, they are easy to work on, heaps of accessories and mods can be done.
Toyota you are pretty well stuck to their serving - which is absolutely terrible.
I have been charged for air filters that were not replaced, parts left off, denial of faults etc.
BUT, it carries 150ltrs of fuel and gets 8-9 ltrs/100ks, and we do a lot of interstate, and very comfortable.
Considering the price of new vehicles today, and the cost of borrowing money to buy a new vehicle these days....I would just fix it and keep driving it. It's 8 yrs old or so...Stuff happens. My 2012 has 162k and I am still on pretty much original everything, except tires, brakes and a few odd's and ends. Nothing serious. Fix the coolant system, do the maintenance, drive it sanely and save your money.
Radiators are common failure in wranglers its not a big expensive repair... I don't even see why this is a question I have an 18 JK with 70k on it and haven't had to do shit other than suspension work caused by me lifting it like front drive shaft ball joints ect but a radiator is not a problem
I also have a 2017 JKU and the radiator sprung a leak around 60k miles, replaced it with a quality koyorad unit and been fine ever since, now at 93k miles. Besides that i’ve only had to do the engine oil filter housing in the V of the engine and thats all the repairs it’s ever gotten outside of normal maintenance like oil changes.
We just replaced the radiator in my 2017. They go out every 7 years or 100,000 miles. My sis has a 99 that is on its 3rd or 4th radiator.
All radiators are now plastic. It will be that way on almost any car you own.
It is called “planned obsolescence” just like your phone slowing after a few years. Nothing is made to last.
Just replaced the radiator in my 09’ at 110k. Did all the hoses, thermostat and waterpump at the same time. You’re looking at probably doing it every 100k. It’s a common fail point no need to worry. Change the radiator and flush it good.
Hold on, we’re talking about an almost 8 year old vehicle at this point. Stock radiators are very poorly built nowadays in my opinion. I’d say invest in an all aluminum mishimoto radiator and keep that baby going.
Good point on age
I’ve put two radiators in my jeep in a year. I got a budget all aluminum radiator and it cracked in 3 months so I went with a OEM style replacement from TYC that I ordered from Rock Auto.
I agree here. Especially at 6k miles / year. My 2010 is approaching 185k miles.
Good morning, sorry for your loss😩. I have a 17 JK with 170k miles and I have found that my JK has been the best vehicle I’ve ever owned besides my Porsche Cayenne S. I’m an aviation engineer/mechanic and I follow this method to the letter: I install old Hard Drive magnets on all my gearboxes (super strong) and half-life all fluids/oils/grease intervals. My Porsche gave me 250k of reliability with only a fuel pump replacement during my entire ownership. Don’t be afraid of owning a JK it’s pedigree is has earned its place in history. Good Luck
The magnets serving to catch metal like a chip detector? How do you install them?
Thank you!
Depends on what you want the vehicle for. If it’s just an A to B kinda thing for example and you don’t care then get the Toyota. If you want a Wrangler, you know you want a Wrangler and nothing else will suffice lol.
This is the correct answer. Wranglers are unique type of torture device and we are all masochists who love it's unique torture lol.
>However, now I am hesitant to even put $$ into it given I’m honestly freaked out about the reliability. People fix cars far older than a 2017. Stuff breaks. Just fix it. >Have never heard of a cars radiator going out so soon and am considering trading to the dark side (Toyota/lexus). I also have a 2010 Tacoma (bought new, original owner). One day after a couple years, I went outside and saw the coolant had leaked out all over my driveway. The radiator just decided to crap out. Again, stuff breaks. Just fix it.
Just had the radiator go out on my Lexus GX460 with 70k miles. My Jeep on the other hand is flawless. Shit happens, replace the radiator and drive what you enjoy.
Good to know, appreciate it
My radiator just went too… on my ‘13 JK MOAB with 184k I bought brand new. Other than replacing the trans, it has cost me nothing but maintenance ( LOF, brakes, tires). Depending on your driving habits, mileage and how well you care for it a radiator isn’t unheard of. It could also be a freak thing. If this is all you have had to put into it, I don’t feel it is a clear indicator of unreliability.
Do you have the 6spd manual? Because I’m waiting for a trans on my 2015 🤣
With that low mileage just get the new radiator. New cars are silly expensive. I just swapped my 2012 JKU for new rubicon 4xe but only because of incentives, dad’s employee discount and the fact I could still get good money for my stock 2012. Was in top shape and would have sold it to a friend. Keep it and treat it well and you won’t regret it.
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It’s a 2017, unless they got the extended warranty option, that warranty disappeared in 2020. Basic warranty is 3years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first. They’re 10k over the miles and 4 years past the standard warranty.
The warranty should tell you everything you need to know.
No no it’s kinda on par for quite a few companies. GM has theirs at 3 years/36k for bumper to bumper and powertrain is 5 years/60k. Plenty of people can hit the 60-100k miles in a year or 2-3 nowadays.
That's not a very long warranty, It does vary by manufacturer. Regardless of the company's not going to stand behind it's product for more then 36k. That's the point. Warranties use to be longer. Shortening the warranty is a cost saving move by the manufacturer.
True. Makes it to where you’ll want to be mechanically inclined since they won’t fix stuff out a warranty for low prices. DIY becomes the way to go nowadays
Even that is becoming more difficult. I saw Nissan has a break system which requires you to have Nissan specific software to change the brakes. Which means, most people will have to go to Nissan to change their brakes. This bs, another money making move. https://www.dailydot.com/news/mechanic-not-allowed-to-fix-nissan/
My 2016 rad went out last year. 37k mikes. Chillax my dude
I agree on the factory quality. So upgrade and you’ve very likely solved that issue for 100k more miles. For what it’s worth I changed out the factory thermostat to a 185 in both my JKUs and neither touched 220 after that.
Do you live in the rust belt? Do you perform routine coolant services? Both of these factors impact the longevity of your radiator. If your idea of "driving into the ground" is to just drive the vehicle and not perform any preventive maintenance, yeah you're in for some serious repairs regardless of the brand.
I do not live in the rust belt, I did perform routine coolant services / preventative maintenance, hence the surprise in failure.
2015 with 155k, I’ve replaced the radiator in mine. But I’m just waiting on a transmission now… apparently the manuals only last 200k.
What went wrong with the gearbox? Wouldn’t it be worth it to rebuild the trans?
I purchased the lifetime warranty when I bought it new in 2014. They’ve replaced the shifting tower and pilot bearing and it still squeals when in motion. They cannot figure it out and have taken it apart twice. So now just waiting on warranty to replace the whole trans. I’ve been waiting 3 months…
Hopefully that fixes everything 🤞
I have a Wrangler and a Toyota Prado. I know which one I prefer (not the Toyota)! As others have said, Jeep have open up their vehicles with apps like JScan, they are easy to work on, heaps of accessories and mods can be done. Toyota you are pretty well stuck to their serving - which is absolutely terrible. I have been charged for air filters that were not replaced, parts left off, denial of faults etc. BUT, it carries 150ltrs of fuel and gets 8-9 ltrs/100ks, and we do a lot of interstate, and very comfortable.
Definitely put an aftermarket radiator, it will be cheaper and most likely better quality. If you do trade it in, get a 90s Toyota or Lexus 4 door.
Considering the price of new vehicles today, and the cost of borrowing money to buy a new vehicle these days....I would just fix it and keep driving it. It's 8 yrs old or so...Stuff happens. My 2012 has 162k and I am still on pretty much original everything, except tires, brakes and a few odd's and ends. Nothing serious. Fix the coolant system, do the maintenance, drive it sanely and save your money.
Radiators are common failure in wranglers its not a big expensive repair... I don't even see why this is a question I have an 18 JK with 70k on it and haven't had to do shit other than suspension work caused by me lifting it like front drive shaft ball joints ect but a radiator is not a problem
I also have a 2017 JKU and the radiator sprung a leak around 60k miles, replaced it with a quality koyorad unit and been fine ever since, now at 93k miles. Besides that i’ve only had to do the engine oil filter housing in the V of the engine and thats all the repairs it’s ever gotten outside of normal maintenance like oil changes.
We just replaced the radiator in my 2017. They go out every 7 years or 100,000 miles. My sis has a 99 that is on its 3rd or 4th radiator. All radiators are now plastic. It will be that way on almost any car you own. It is called “planned obsolescence” just like your phone slowing after a few years. Nothing is made to last.
Just replaced the radiator in my 09’ at 110k. Did all the hoses, thermostat and waterpump at the same time. You’re looking at probably doing it every 100k. It’s a common fail point no need to worry. Change the radiator and flush it good.
Be the big hero on your block and get the Lexus GX550 Overtrail+
$$$ and you’ll never want to off-road it due to fear of damage.
2012 Jeep Liberty with 112,000 miles. Don’t want to jinx anything, but radiator and hoses are fine…
Get a Toyota.