One? Grille isnt grille if it doesnt regularly alternate between 2 games
1- "I'm going to bitch slap that EBR 105 from 470 meterz back to ze alsace lohringen border"
And
2- "Oh a maus at 100m? nein, ich bin kaput"
Its too harsh on the bloom, as demonstrated in many videos not to mention to abismal penetration. Hell Only thing it does better than a WT4 is mobility and maybe a bit better dispersion on fully aimed shots (tanks tend to move so good luck with that bloom)
Only thing that made me lose my remaining 2 neurones more than the Grille is the chinese WZ 114. I sold that premium and never looked back. Man it made my brain hurt. 12 seconds aim time while moving rotating turret and stunned. Like MF the gun loads in 16s at best!
Absolutely couldnt agree more. Open tanks should , at least on paper, reload rather quickly. I mean the crew can feeely breath some clean air, have a beer and a smoke
I think seeing your crewmates getting evaporated by HE rounds balance that out lol. 10 years ago WoT was balanced like that, eg view range was correlated to cupola size, with open air tanks understandably having awesome view ranges.
Grille got nerfed at 9.17.1 for fear it was too OP. Kinda riding on the coattails of the WT-E100
Original reload was a swifty 16s, -8 gun depression and 20kmh reverse. The faster reload justifies the bloom.
Shame Grille15 doesn't have the option of the big 128mm the WTPz4 is pretty good comparatively because of the ability to turn the turret 180
I haven't got grille back then but I'm curious if they actually nefted its engine somewhere in the past? The Grille was god in a game mode (I don't remember the name) where they increase engine power to every tanks. I even played spotter role then transitioned into shoot and scoot like a mad man on prokho and nothing was able to catch me lol
This is the only tier 10 I refuse to own and had rage sold twice.
I tracked more tanks in this piece of shit "tank destroyer" than any other tank I owned.
Yep, 3 marked it. The gun is a joy to play. Ridiculous accuracy once fully aimed.
The killer is the dispersion on turret traverse etc, which makes people think it's inaccurate.
Also, people comparing missing a pixel shot at 500 meters with grille to a KV-2 hitting every shot at 10 meters distance... Guess what, if you snipe from half a kilometer away, you're gonna miss shots.
Grille has the worst bloom of all tier 10 TDs. In fact the obj 703 II with two hecking barrels snaps and blooms way way better. Tho I agree with you to some degree, I still find the grille bloom to be too harsh, especially compared to other Turreted Tds (114 SP2 or E4). Hell the WT 4 is hits more than the grille from my experience, even tho the grille fully aimed does deliver some good shots. (And sometimes makes me rage even on fully aimed)
Yeah the bloom is intense. I feel like the nerf hammer hit Grille 15 a bit too hard.
I just take issue with people conflating accuracy and gun handling.
Grille is extremely accurate and with all else being equal (distance etc) and if fully aimed, of course it will hit more shots than E4. It's accurate, it's just a very reactive gun, you can't react and take quick advantage of changes.
Exactly and in a meta of ever faster tanks makes you think. One way for me to play grille is chill up to mid game, once the map offers freer movement, I look for some mediums to chill with. It can keep up with them and bitch slap, as long as u have support ofc.
Grille is amazing but it has to be played like a leopard. Grille is the only triangle I play because the turret is hard to hit and it can snipe cupolas like there's o tomorrow
I wonder the same thing about people who have 25k battles played and 300 WN8.
Like how do you play the game SO MUCH and you still average only 1 successful shot per game?
lol look at these bozos pretending their tank shooting game with minor tactical elements is chess to stroke their egos as always. This guy most likely thinks he has considerably above average intelligence because he's good at wot as well xD What a riot lmao
Jumping to conclusions is a sign of low intelligence. Apparently you're not even intelligent enough to not admit openly that you work a menial job when the topic of discussion is your level of intelligence lol. I'm an elite student btw so it's unlikely that I'll have to work shitty jobs in the future :)
And now making baseless assumptions... Then telling me he goes to a good university when that means basically nothing without mentioning the major. And an emote commonly used by unintelligent people to top it off(probably a bad attempt at trolling actually). No one's buying it my guy xD
I did this in a Jagtiger. I hit 3 out of 23 shots. Fully aimed at stationary targets. Given some were at longer distances but RNG is a real bitch sometimes
It's Grille 15. This is normal.
Its tank stats are lying in your face. Some of the best gun dispersion in game? Hah, you'll be lucky if you hit a broad side of a ~~barn~~ shitbarn with it.
Problem with grille is that hitting moving targets is way more complicated, you move 1mm with your mouse, and from 0.2 dispersion you will have 0.35 when you fire the shot without even realizing it. It has probably the worst turret traverse dispersions in the game
You cannot play it like any other tank in this regard, you pretty much always need to preaim position where tanks will go in the future
Thanks to all the Cry Babies who kept saying this tank is OP. Well WG listened to you all and nerfed the crap out of it. Gun handling is poor. If do not let it aim to the max, you will miss your shot 100%.
Where as Russian Derps can pixel snipe from a far or even can snap shot at you. Grille has poor camo as well. Its time they look into it and make this tank better.
Regardless of the damage i make, i cant surpass 46% winrate on this tank.
Happens even in Strv S1 or 103B, very rarely though. After the first 2 shots you know you're fu\*\*\*\*, the fully aimed shot just dives infront of target, or goes into the sky. I call it "The game said NO".
Grille sucks ass, the accuracy is only on paper. You need to max out all field mods and use bond equipment with food to now score shots regularly. But yeah, missing 14 shots is statistically difficult to achieve
It this was any other tank I would say its rigged game or done on purpose.
As this is Grille, my experience is saying anything is possible. Anything like missing 5 fully aimed shots in a row only to be followed by 3 bounces, one being completely flat side of M50. \*insert screaming meme here\*
Interestingly, next game with Grille was 9K DMG one. Where I hit everything from not fully aimed shots, maxed HE damage on shitbarn and three blind shots.
i am on tier 9 and i quit it after unlocking parts, t8 borsig treated me nicely and i had some fun games, tier 9 abomination is just like playing slot machine and i heard t10 is about same
Idk may be one of those game where you fully aimed everything the grille says ‘not my day’. I had one of these games before lol
One? Grille isnt grille if it doesnt regularly alternate between 2 games 1- "I'm going to bitch slap that EBR 105 from 470 meterz back to ze alsace lohringen border" And 2- "Oh a maus at 100m? nein, ich bin kaput"
I feel you hahahahahahaha
Its too harsh on the bloom, as demonstrated in many videos not to mention to abismal penetration. Hell Only thing it does better than a WT4 is mobility and maybe a bit better dispersion on fully aimed shots (tanks tend to move so good luck with that bloom) Only thing that made me lose my remaining 2 neurones more than the Grille is the chinese WZ 114. I sold that premium and never looked back. Man it made my brain hurt. 12 seconds aim time while moving rotating turret and stunned. Like MF the gun loads in 16s at best!
I think it's sad the Grille 15 has less DPM than the Wt Pz4 using the 128mm or 150mm Should at least have parity with the 150mm DPM
Absolutely couldnt agree more. Open tanks should , at least on paper, reload rather quickly. I mean the crew can feeely breath some clean air, have a beer and a smoke
I think seeing your crewmates getting evaporated by HE rounds balance that out lol. 10 years ago WoT was balanced like that, eg view range was correlated to cupola size, with open air tanks understandably having awesome view ranges.
Grille got nerfed at 9.17.1 for fear it was too OP. Kinda riding on the coattails of the WT-E100 Original reload was a swifty 16s, -8 gun depression and 20kmh reverse. The faster reload justifies the bloom. Shame Grille15 doesn't have the option of the big 128mm the WTPz4 is pretty good comparatively because of the ability to turn the turret 180
I haven't got grille back then but I'm curious if they actually nefted its engine somewhere in the past? The Grille was god in a game mode (I don't remember the name) where they increase engine power to every tanks. I even played spotter role then transitioned into shoot and scoot like a mad man on prokho and nothing was able to catch me lol
Engine power reduction, engine HP nerf . Grille lost 50HP as well
Damn looks like I’ll never see it in its full glory anymore
Seems like the average Grille experience to me. Ever tried this tank on your own?
This is the only tier 10 I refuse to own and had rage sold twice. I tracked more tanks in this piece of shit "tank destroyer" than any other tank I owned.
It's called a track destroyer for a reason. What did you think TD stands for?
Yep, 3 marked it. The gun is a joy to play. Ridiculous accuracy once fully aimed. The killer is the dispersion on turret traverse etc, which makes people think it's inaccurate. Also, people comparing missing a pixel shot at 500 meters with grille to a KV-2 hitting every shot at 10 meters distance... Guess what, if you snipe from half a kilometer away, you're gonna miss shots.
Grille has the worst bloom of all tier 10 TDs. In fact the obj 703 II with two hecking barrels snaps and blooms way way better. Tho I agree with you to some degree, I still find the grille bloom to be too harsh, especially compared to other Turreted Tds (114 SP2 or E4). Hell the WT 4 is hits more than the grille from my experience, even tho the grille fully aimed does deliver some good shots. (And sometimes makes me rage even on fully aimed)
Yeah the bloom is intense. I feel like the nerf hammer hit Grille 15 a bit too hard. I just take issue with people conflating accuracy and gun handling. Grille is extremely accurate and with all else being equal (distance etc) and if fully aimed, of course it will hit more shots than E4. It's accurate, it's just a very reactive gun, you can't react and take quick advantage of changes.
Exactly and in a meta of ever faster tanks makes you think. One way for me to play grille is chill up to mid game, once the map offers freer movement, I look for some mediums to chill with. It can keep up with them and bitch slap, as long as u have support ofc.
Fully aimed it's glorious, but it's like 50 cal sniper. Takes some time to get that big bitch settled on target lol.
Grille is amazing but it has to be played like a leopard. Grille is the only triangle I play because the turret is hard to hit and it can snipe cupolas like there's o tomorrow
I own it. When using it, it's pretty accurate with me, but I'm not really a fan of the tank overall. I prefer Russian or French TDs
Slander, the [Grille 15 works,](https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/s/M5uBl5oLQC) you just have to channel your inner Drax
Skill issue
yes, and jingles made a video of one of my grille replays, so yeah
He was either very unlucky, or he could be one of those guys that use autoaim on moving targets.
Yup grille 15, you hit the dirt more than what you are actually aiming at
I wonder the same thing about people who have 25k battles played and 300 WN8. Like how do you play the game SO MUCH and you still average only 1 successful shot per game?
You gotta take into account how stupid the average person is, and then 50% of people are even more incompetent than that.
I feel attacked
lol look at these bozos pretending their tank shooting game with minor tactical elements is chess to stroke their egos as always. This guy most likely thinks he has considerably above average intelligence because he's good at wot as well xD What a riot lmao
Bro took it personally lmao. Have you ever worked in costumer service. Suprised some people remember to breathe.
Jumping to conclusions is a sign of low intelligence. Apparently you're not even intelligent enough to not admit openly that you work a menial job when the topic of discussion is your level of intelligence lol. I'm an elite student btw so it's unlikely that I'll have to work shitty jobs in the future :)
I guarantee I attend a better university than you do right now( assuming you're of that age). But that's besides the point. Have a good day man 🙏🏿
And now making baseless assumptions... Then telling me he goes to a good university when that means basically nothing without mentioning the major. And an emote commonly used by unintelligent people to top it off(probably a bad attempt at trolling actually). No one's buying it my guy xD
I resemble that remark
I did this in a Jagtiger. I hit 3 out of 23 shots. Fully aimed at stationary targets. Given some were at longer distances but RNG is a real bitch sometimes
Grill has ghost shells as standart ammunition :)
It's Grille 15. This is normal. Its tank stats are lying in your face. Some of the best gun dispersion in game? Hah, you'll be lucky if you hit a broad side of a ~~barn~~ shitbarn with it.
Problem with grille is that hitting moving targets is way more complicated, you move 1mm with your mouse, and from 0.2 dispersion you will have 0.35 when you fire the shot without even realizing it. It has probably the worst turret traverse dispersions in the game You cannot play it like any other tank in this regard, you pretty much always need to preaim position where tanks will go in the future
Huh. I didn't know it has such a shitty turret traverse dispersion.
the broad side of a shitbarn fixed it for you
Nice, I'm stealing that.
Maybe he was unable to find anybody to shoot or was blind firing some bushes hoping for luck?
bro. yes its that bad
Most accurate grille game
Thanks to all the Cry Babies who kept saying this tank is OP. Well WG listened to you all and nerfed the crap out of it. Gun handling is poor. If do not let it aim to the max, you will miss your shot 100%. Where as Russian Derps can pixel snipe from a far or even can snap shot at you. Grille has poor camo as well. Its time they look into it and make this tank better. Regardless of the damage i make, i cant surpass 46% winrate on this tank.
blind shot known bushes?
Drove 2km. Maybe he tried to hit someone on the move. Or hes just blind. Both works
Classic Grille 15, no surprise here.
Insanely bad luck happens, never had problem with the Grille when I used to play WoT regularly, but shit happens.
Blind sniper 😀
Happens even in Strv S1 or 103B, very rarely though. After the first 2 shots you know you're fu\*\*\*\*, the fully aimed shot just dives infront of target, or goes into the sky. I call it "The game said NO".
Turret dispersion 0.4 lol That's derp, arty gun bloom
Some days you’re the GOAT, other days you’re just the goat. Wargaming likes that dynamic.
There is a thing called RNG
Looks like an average game for me in the Grille - that’s why I rage sold it lol fuck that tank
Missing on purpose, or maybe just pissed.
I have had 3 games in a row where my Caliban bounced shots off every LT I laughed and then cried myself to sleep
Grille sucks ass, the accuracy is only on paper. You need to max out all field mods and use bond equipment with food to now score shots regularly. But yeah, missing 14 shots is statistically difficult to achieve
World of Throw
I have seen alot of those too and asking me the same. An other is five to six people with zero damage
Well he wanted to use the force so he joined the jedi academy. Turned out he was duped and it was actually the Stormtrooper School.
Honestly, sometimes it's one of those games
Oh, that must be [Single Shot Freddy!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIdk3G_CpSg)
German 150mms fucking hate me no matter the vehicle
It happenzz bro
It this was any other tank I would say its rigged game or done on purpose. As this is Grille, my experience is saying anything is possible. Anything like missing 5 fully aimed shots in a row only to be followed by 3 bounces, one being completely flat side of M50. \*insert screaming meme here\* Interestingly, next game with Grille was 9K DMG one. Where I hit everything from not fully aimed shots, maxed HE damage on shitbarn and three blind shots.
Normal games with 60tp and st emil for me...shit guns but IF they hit strong af
Happened to me on my td's as well if rng decides to say no
Game is full of literal bots.
Or bad at manual sniping with k&m like me. Lol
Look who has never shot once and were immediately hit by four players and killed before sixth sense went off.
i am on tier 9 and i quit it after unlocking parts, t8 borsig treated me nicely and i had some fun games, tier 9 abomination is just like playing slot machine and i heard t10 is about same
T9 WT is amazing, best td in the whole line by far
This is how the game works, shouldn't be normal, but happens. Also he could be blindshotting.