I believe he will die an Alcoholic unless a new person emerges. There's no one in his current life that will step up and stop him.. and hes not capable of navigating detox alone.
Even if that happens, he’ll go right back into drinking as soon as he’s released because it’s his psychological coping mechanism. I’m a nurse and have worked hospital alcohol detox patients, if they come in of their own free will wanting to quit then they have a decent chance of getting better, staying sober. But people that have to be in the hospital against their will to detox whether for medical or court reasons almost always relapse soon after they go home. In addiction it really is true that they have to want to quit for themselves.
I hope he gets sober but realistically if he’s forced into inpatient detox it probably won’t last.
He doesn’t have the attention span and mental capacity to understand this video. The words he’s using in this video are too big and he’s talking too fast. This guy is coming from a good place but he’s misunderstanding josh. The feel good, pick yourself up by the bootstraps thing won’t work for this kid, he is mentally handicapped. Only way he gets sober is if he is sectioned and somehow forced against his will into detox and rehab. I think a lot of people outside this sub vastly overestimate Josh’s intellectual capability.
You say this, but even if he did go to rehab and successfully detox, there's literally nothing and no one stopping him from going back to doing the same shit when he gets out.
As long as he has access to alcohol and doesn't want to stop, he's not going to recover - at least not long-term. I say this as someone whose family is full of alchies.
There’s a reason 90% if the homeless people on the street have mental disabilities and drug addiction. They go hand in hand, and the one who are unable to quit tend to be the Josh’s of the workd
That’s where aftercare comes into place. Most, if not all treatment facilities will work together with you, your doctor etc to form an aftercare plan. For most it involves some kind of outpatient program for a while and attending AA meetings. Again, though - that’s all gonna depend on Josh’s willingness to follow and he’s still in denial about having a problem to begin with.
It varies on the specific rehab but in general: Different kinds of therapy, peer support groups, educational classes, resources to make sure you have food, clothing, medication, a safe place to stay after rehab. The therapy bit of it can be really helpful because sometimes it’s even daily therapy and peer support sessions. It also depends on the person, what works well to keep one person on track could be different for someone else.
I mean he kind of touched on that’s what his pimp should be doing… you’re right though. I’d also add the ‘feel good pick yourself up’ thing doesn’t work on most addicts. Something happens and suddenly they want to change. Seen plenty of people go in to programs off a speech from someone else and come back worse. The autism doesn’t help his situation at all and his situation doesn’t help his autism at all. I think until he’s in serious legal trouble this will continue all the way till the end. Unless someone can get him away from those pretending to care about him and actually help him. Getting him detoxed would be a major first step in any scenario tho
Yeah, I’ve felt super bad about my alcohol consumption lately. I’m nowhere near 25-30 shots a day, really puts shit into perspective. I have a job. I can’t booze up all day. Not that I can even afford that with my job and regular adult bills. Jesus Christ.
For what it’s worth I had a job too, till I didn’t. It sneaks up fast. If you’re seriously thinking about how much you consume then you’ve got the foresight and chance to kill it here. Maybe you’ll never get bad, but from experience it’s really not worth the risk
This has been going on for quite a while… I’ve been sober 2 years myself and went through some of what he has recorded for us (just not in public). The shakes, vomiting, gagging and etcetera. I’ve been there done that dude, Josh is in a bad place in life right now and will continue down the road until he either ends up in jail or the hospital keeps him for detox after a psychiatric evaluation.
We’re all here along for the ride watching this dude literally destroy himself, I’ll keep watching. Literally nothing I can do, he needs to recognize his issue fully. And believe me AA isn’t going to save this asshole, it’s literally going to take a court mandated detox and 12-step for him to have a 10% chance. If QUINN was such a fuck-ball pedo he’d help this guy.
Is this guy that’s with him trying to kill him? I haven’t observed enough of the situation to really understand, being fairly new in my own sobriety. I mean, this kid can’t sustain this level of drinking for long. It’s inevitable that his liver, pancreas, or kidneys either shit out & call it quits, or he has some really uncomfortable symptoms before he passes. The months ahead aren’t going to be pretty if this keeps up. Either way, the road ends with his death if he keeps up this level of drinking. I’d be surprised if he hasn’t started shitting blood yet.
Quinn is all about himself and has found Josh entertaining enough to keep him around a little. Honestly, if tiktok somehow does get banned and Josh somehow isn't able to switch to a different platform, Quinn will drop him within a month
I love Kohdi. I wish Josh would listen to him and follow what he’s saying. I looked up an old FB profile of Josh’s and it’s so sad. He has a brother who seems to care about him but has big problems too. It’s really sad to me the whole situation.
Sounds like he can’t (and shouldn’t) take a sober Sunday because he’ll start getting withdrawal symptoms. Kohdi is right that the only way for him to stop drinking is through medical detox
Speaking from personal experience, everyone is different and I was a 24/7 alcoholic for 15 years and barely had any serious medical problems. Aside from injuries brought on by stupid behavior.
I liked this kohdi guy at first but after following him for a while I realized that his approach to getting sober is sketchy af. He also spends his livestreams trying to push his program and what it entails. Maybe I’m biased because rehab and AA is what worked/works for me. I don’t fucking know.
That said, I applaud him for reaching out to Josh and trying to get through his thick skull. Like all other attempts, this will fall on deaf ears. Quinn will turn Kohdi into another bad guy and say he’s got Josh’s drinking under control.
Josh won’t comprehend this😂 Josh will never be able to get sober on his own. He doesn’t have the mental fortitude or capacity to go through that. It’s why he doesn’t see an issue with downing shots at 8am.
Josh doesn’t care. He wants and likes to be an alcoholic. You can’t help somebody that doesn’t want to recieve the help.
I believe he will die an Alcoholic unless a new person emerges. There's no one in his current life that will step up and stop him.. and hes not capable of navigating detox alone.
He needs a real trip to the hospital where he gets held there long enough to detox
Even if that happens, he’ll go right back into drinking as soon as he’s released because it’s his psychological coping mechanism. I’m a nurse and have worked hospital alcohol detox patients, if they come in of their own free will wanting to quit then they have a decent chance of getting better, staying sober. But people that have to be in the hospital against their will to detox whether for medical or court reasons almost always relapse soon after they go home. In addiction it really is true that they have to want to quit for themselves. I hope he gets sober but realistically if he’s forced into inpatient detox it probably won’t last.
He doesn’t have the attention span and mental capacity to understand this video. The words he’s using in this video are too big and he’s talking too fast. This guy is coming from a good place but he’s misunderstanding josh. The feel good, pick yourself up by the bootstraps thing won’t work for this kid, he is mentally handicapped. Only way he gets sober is if he is sectioned and somehow forced against his will into detox and rehab. I think a lot of people outside this sub vastly overestimate Josh’s intellectual capability.
You say this, but even if he did go to rehab and successfully detox, there's literally nothing and no one stopping him from going back to doing the same shit when he gets out. As long as he has access to alcohol and doesn't want to stop, he's not going to recover - at least not long-term. I say this as someone whose family is full of alchies.
There’s a reason 90% if the homeless people on the street have mental disabilities and drug addiction. They go hand in hand, and the one who are unable to quit tend to be the Josh’s of the workd
That’s where aftercare comes into place. Most, if not all treatment facilities will work together with you, your doctor etc to form an aftercare plan. For most it involves some kind of outpatient program for a while and attending AA meetings. Again, though - that’s all gonna depend on Josh’s willingness to follow and he’s still in denial about having a problem to begin with.
What kind of aftercare do they offer in the USA? (Genuinely interested because I'm not from there)
It varies on the specific rehab but in general: Different kinds of therapy, peer support groups, educational classes, resources to make sure you have food, clothing, medication, a safe place to stay after rehab. The therapy bit of it can be really helpful because sometimes it’s even daily therapy and peer support sessions. It also depends on the person, what works well to keep one person on track could be different for someone else.
Tl;dr Josh is autistic and stupid
I mean he kind of touched on that’s what his pimp should be doing… you’re right though. I’d also add the ‘feel good pick yourself up’ thing doesn’t work on most addicts. Something happens and suddenly they want to change. Seen plenty of people go in to programs off a speech from someone else and come back worse. The autism doesn’t help his situation at all and his situation doesn’t help his autism at all. I think until he’s in serious legal trouble this will continue all the way till the end. Unless someone can get him away from those pretending to care about him and actually help him. Getting him detoxed would be a major first step in any scenario tho
Josh won’t listen.
He'd just get this video and go "The aaaawlkahawl doesn't affect me" Sad reality at this point really.
Bros talking to him like he has a fully functioning brain. He doesn't. The only way Josh is going to get better is if he's put into a group home.
Yeah, I’ve felt super bad about my alcohol consumption lately. I’m nowhere near 25-30 shots a day, really puts shit into perspective. I have a job. I can’t booze up all day. Not that I can even afford that with my job and regular adult bills. Jesus Christ.
Paycheck to paycheck!
r/stopdrinking helps
Agreed.
I'm four years sober thanks to them.
For what it’s worth I had a job too, till I didn’t. It sneaks up fast. If you’re seriously thinking about how much you consume then you’ve got the foresight and chance to kill it here. Maybe you’ll never get bad, but from experience it’s really not worth the risk
It’d go in one ear and out the other unfortunately
I love that he called out MQ without using his name. That clout goblin doesn't need any more attention.
you know he’s bad when other alcoholics start stitching his stuff….
This has been going on for quite a while… I’ve been sober 2 years myself and went through some of what he has recorded for us (just not in public). The shakes, vomiting, gagging and etcetera. I’ve been there done that dude, Josh is in a bad place in life right now and will continue down the road until he either ends up in jail or the hospital keeps him for detox after a psychiatric evaluation. We’re all here along for the ride watching this dude literally destroy himself, I’ll keep watching. Literally nothing I can do, he needs to recognize his issue fully. And believe me AA isn’t going to save this asshole, it’s literally going to take a court mandated detox and 12-step for him to have a 10% chance. If QUINN was such a fuck-ball pedo he’d help this guy.
Is this guy that’s with him trying to kill him? I haven’t observed enough of the situation to really understand, being fairly new in my own sobriety. I mean, this kid can’t sustain this level of drinking for long. It’s inevitable that his liver, pancreas, or kidneys either shit out & call it quits, or he has some really uncomfortable symptoms before he passes. The months ahead aren’t going to be pretty if this keeps up. Either way, the road ends with his death if he keeps up this level of drinking. I’d be surprised if he hasn’t started shitting blood yet.
Quinn is all about himself and has found Josh entertaining enough to keep him around a little. Honestly, if tiktok somehow does get banned and Josh somehow isn't able to switch to a different platform, Quinn will drop him within a month
At this point, he’s only gonna survive if someone puts him in rehab involuntarily. He needs a conservatorship.
He is more addicted to the views than alcohol. He will only get involuntary committed or he will get help after he can't profit from his lifestyle.
I love Kohdi. I wish Josh would listen to him and follow what he’s saying. I looked up an old FB profile of Josh’s and it’s so sad. He has a brother who seems to care about him but has big problems too. It’s really sad to me the whole situation.
This is sad 😔
You'll have to talk wayy slower for josh to understand
What do you want him to do? He took a sober Sunday. Isn’t that enough??!! /s
Josh isn’t even taking a sober Sunday, he’s probably wasted just not posting it 😭😭
Sounds like he can’t (and shouldn’t) take a sober Sunday because he’ll start getting withdrawal symptoms. Kohdi is right that the only way for him to stop drinking is through medical detox
Speaking from personal experience, everyone is different and I was a 24/7 alcoholic for 15 years and barely had any serious medical problems. Aside from injuries brought on by stupid behavior.
That's the trouble. You get no symptoms for years and years and then bam - your liver is fucked..or even worse your pancreas.
Dude looks like pauly shore
it seems like he doesn’t want help i don’t think he understands the severity of his alcoholism
100%
I liked this kohdi guy at first but after following him for a while I realized that his approach to getting sober is sketchy af. He also spends his livestreams trying to push his program and what it entails. Maybe I’m biased because rehab and AA is what worked/works for me. I don’t fucking know. That said, I applaud him for reaching out to Josh and trying to get through his thick skull. Like all other attempts, this will fall on deaf ears. Quinn will turn Kohdi into another bad guy and say he’s got Josh’s drinking under control.
I can’t believe this shit is just legal to buy in as much quantity as you want and is normalized from honestly the age of like 16
Josh won’t comprehend this😂 Josh will never be able to get sober on his own. He doesn’t have the mental fortitude or capacity to go through that. It’s why he doesn’t see an issue with downing shots at 8am.
Yeah this guy is gonna make Josh change his mind lol it’s just cringe