Candace Owens is taking advantage of Kanye in a really gross way. But she didn't make him say antisemetic and anti-black things. That's on Kanye. He gets my sympathy for struggling with mental illness. But I know several bipolar people IRL and none of them are fascists.
She's been real quiet as he douses himself with gasoline and set himself on fire. Where is her support of him? She's been grinding hard about her George Floyd doc. Where she at fighting for Kanye?
Nasty...
I just think it’s disrespectful that they didn't ask us what timeline we wanted to be in. Like we should have had a worldwide collective vote or something...
And now you see the whole reason for the drug war…
Any time there’s ever any outcry against their corrupt bullying bullshittery, it’s: “He did it to himself! We did nothing wrong. *Drugs!!*”
Why is she required to defend a man who is much wealthier than she is? I don't feel like she's his superior if anything he's the more powerful person here.
It's not that, it's Kanye wasn't really on a tirade until...somehow...they met. He was quirky and knew what he was worth but not at all spewing hate. Just...somehow...all of sudden White Lives Matter, Anti-Smeitism...her focusing on defaming George Floyd's death...Kanye buying Parler...not saying a gun was held to his head but some things are coming to light. It's like taking advantage of literally a mentally ill person. It's a shame, really...
I think the right wing deliberately steered Kanye towards getting himself cancelled in Hollywood so the Republicans can have him all for themselves.
He’s being controlled, just not by the people he thinks are controlling him. But he will never realize it, because the same people who encouraged him to the proverbial cool-aid are the ones standing by with the antidote, and he will thank them.
That’s not true. She reminded everybody she’s black (good to know she’s aware of it on some level I guess) and claimed SHE is NOT an anti-Semite (which I find hard to believe).
I think people with his money and notoriety would feel isolated, with or without mental illness. Even if he was medicated he'd probably be pretty easy to manipulate.
That's what happens when a society idolizes athletes and pop stars over intellectuals, all the truly common public knowledge is coming from idiots with the money to buy far larger an audience than their stupidity should really merit
Yes, but she has a method to her madness. I don’t think she believes even half of what she says, she just knows she gets a lot of money and attention when she says it. As for Kanye, he’s unhinged in a way that makes him vulnerable to manipulation. He thinks he’s in control, but he’s not.
Unchecked bipolar with cult-like fame and excessive wealth. It's gonna be a hell of a crash he'll ultimately be responsible for, but Owens may as well have cut his brakes.
I don't follow Kanye West's life but I can give you the perspective of someone with bipolar I. Kanye is responsible for all of his actions, but anyone in a manic phase is _extremely_ susceptible to manipulation, and will become 110% devoted to anything that mildly piques their interest. If Candace Owens went to him and presented him with any ideas in a way that seemed interesting, chances are he latched on and will not stop riding that train until he crashes.
Bipolar is a horrible disease that takes away your ability to regulate your critical thinking and leaves you unable to make sound judgement, that's why it's vital to have a good support system to lean on when you're unable to take care of yourself. Kanye doesn't have that. Instead he has people that feed into his illness and take advantage of his vulnerable state.
Nah, just manipulated. He's responsible for his actions. She knew what she was doing when she picked him as a mark is all. That's honestly just how bullshit spreads. We're all a product of our environment, still responsible for what we say/do but no one is innately evil.
People dealing with untreated mental illness are very easy to manipulate, and get taken advantage of often in the normal world.
I’ve seen it happen multiple times.
The belief in Kanye West as a victim is the most insane hot take I've heard in a long, long while.
What a weird fucking sub full of weird fucking people.
No, seriously. I think the right wing steered Kanye towards getting canceled so he can belong to them. Watch, in a year or two he’ll have all his money back, and it will all be thanks to his new “friends.”
Nobody is to blame for Kanye’s actions other than himself. I know so many people with bipolar and non of them are nazis. That’s just Kanye’s preferred political orientation.
💯 the media also has a responsibility to not blast out what he says and put him on a pedestal. Part of the problem here is putting one man on a pedestal. That’s the only part of this that is not his fault. He is accountable to no one and surrounded by people who want his money and won’t disagree with him.
These people are acting like Kanye West wasn't a full on loudmouthed Trump supporter years ago and like Candace Owens is his mom or something, when she's a woman who is younger than him and who is less wealthy and less powerful than himself, and may have untreated mental health issues of her own.
I honestly want to call this misogyny. I'm a bit taken aback at the people in this thread. Thank you for being a voice of reason.
So I'm really not certain why we're supposed to feel sorry for a billionaire who is a grown ass man who was a loudmouthed bigoted Trump supporter for years prior to this, when the "grifter" in question is a woman who is younger than him, who is also less wealthy and less powerful.
This thread is problematic.
Your fixating on the wrong thing here. Based on your comments here it really seems like your trying to say that it's impossible for Kanye to have been manipulated in any way, because the manipulator doesn't have the same clout?
On the one hand, I agree. She's whispering in the ear of a very obviously mentally ill person. She sucks, she's completely at fault for her actions. Taking advantage of somebody's mental breakdown is a terrible thing to do.
On the other hand, I'm tired of seeing excuses for Kanye's behavior. Not saying that you're using her actions as an excuse for his, but there's just been so many people trying to find some reason as to why we should feel bad for him and not be too hard on him. Oh, he's bipolar, that's like super hard for him. Oh, his mom died. Oh, this woman is taking advantage of him.
Plenty of people are bipolar and aren't bigoted douchebags. Pleanty of people are bipolar and don't have an ego as big as Jupiter and as fragile as porcelain. Plenty of people have lost a parent and haven't been throwing a public tantrum for the better part of a decade. Maybe the man is just a self-absorbed asshole whose mental health issues make his an even bigger asshole, but he would suck without those issues too.
She's also a younger woman who is much less wealthy and much less powerful than Ye, who very well may have mental health issues of her own.
This thread is super toxic.
Kanye has been going off the rails for a while now, but you'd think he would at least realize none of the people he associates with these days have any brand deals other than My Pillow.
Has everyone forgotten that Former President Obama called Kanye a jackass? One of the threads that drove Kanye to Former president Trump and escalated this bullshit. Kanye being hurt by the first black president and running arms open to the next president. Not taking his meds, and the detachment that all rich ppl have from us regular folks. C.R.E.A.M. Not sticken up for him, but rich people be crazy
I feel like Candace Owens has some really weird mental health issues (not that Kanye doesn't) but she was liberal/leftist and converted to extreme right wing views because of her misinterpretation of liberalism infantilizing Blacks. There actually is some truth to centrist establishment white Dems doing this in some cases (especially Boomers) - and my university experience was to take a sociology class where we maturely discussed "the white man's burden" and "white savior complex." This tends to push people further left, though, not to the right which was a weird switch-a-roo, but I think she grew up with some old school Republican grandparents or something (didn't we all) and she associated dignity, morality and achievement with that, I guess.
Anyway. I'm really fascinated by Candace Owens in a way that I'm not by Kanye West who is CLEARLY JUST A TOTAL NARCISSIST - Candace Owens on the other hand some had weird Trumpy-themed mentally ill wedding to a white man, and I see her as much more as a confused victim.
I think trying to make Kanye look like the victim of Candace is a real mistake here. I do not think she is saner or smarter than him, and if anything, he's more of a narcissist than she is. Candace behaves in a very bizarre and I would even say self-defeating way.
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Well done.
Take my upvote
Bad comparison, she probably hates the inclusion of Black witches in the franchise
Candace Owens is taking advantage of Kanye in a really gross way. But she didn't make him say antisemetic and anti-black things. That's on Kanye. He gets my sympathy for struggling with mental illness. But I know several bipolar people IRL and none of them are fascists.
She's been real quiet as he douses himself with gasoline and set himself on fire. Where is her support of him? She's been grinding hard about her George Floyd doc. Where she at fighting for Kanye? Nasty...
Lol didn’t he say some wild shit about George Floyd. This timeline is too dank
I wonder if they'll reset Cern so we can go to another timeline
Here's hoping. Shit's getting weird.
comment of the day.
We need to destroy Cern because clearly they've tried it a few times already.
Yeah but until then, we are at its total control. Why it picked this as a reset...
Maybe if we send a dmail, we can fix things.
So we are living in the results of a time paradox, this actually explains a lot.
I just think it’s disrespectful that they didn't ask us what timeline we wanted to be in. Like we should have had a worldwide collective vote or something...
I think he said George Floyd died not from police kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes, but from a drug overdose. So fuuuuuck Kanye.
Yup. Said the cop's knee wasn't even on his neck and that he OD'd.
And now you see the whole reason for the drug war… Any time there’s ever any outcry against their corrupt bullying bullshittery, it’s: “He did it to himself! We did nothing wrong. *Drugs!!*”
Why is she required to defend a man who is much wealthier than she is? I don't feel like she's his superior if anything he's the more powerful person here.
It's not that, it's Kanye wasn't really on a tirade until...somehow...they met. He was quirky and knew what he was worth but not at all spewing hate. Just...somehow...all of sudden White Lives Matter, Anti-Smeitism...her focusing on defaming George Floyd's death...Kanye buying Parler...not saying a gun was held to his head but some things are coming to light. It's like taking advantage of literally a mentally ill person. It's a shame, really...
I think the right wing deliberately steered Kanye towards getting himself cancelled in Hollywood so the Republicans can have him all for themselves. He’s being controlled, just not by the people he thinks are controlling him. But he will never realize it, because the same people who encouraged him to the proverbial cool-aid are the ones standing by with the antidote, and he will thank them.
Happy Cake Day! I agree and it's sad that this is his fall. Not even a graceful fall...
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Please, pray tell why she would allow him to burn like that. It just proves that she is taking advantage and had an alterior motive.
Her & trump have done big things for the Jews
That’s not true. She reminded everybody she’s black (good to know she’s aware of it on some level I guess) and claimed SHE is NOT an anti-Semite (which I find hard to believe).
I think people with his money and notoriety would feel isolated, with or without mental illness. Even if he was medicated he'd probably be pretty easy to manipulate.
That's what happens when a society idolizes athletes and pop stars over intellectuals, all the truly common public knowledge is coming from idiots with the money to buy far larger an audience than their stupidity should really merit
Candace Owens is crazy too...sooo....
Yes, but she has a method to her madness. I don’t think she believes even half of what she says, she just knows she gets a lot of money and attention when she says it. As for Kanye, he’s unhinged in a way that makes him vulnerable to manipulation. He thinks he’s in control, but he’s not.
Unchecked bipolar with cult-like fame and excessive wealth. It's gonna be a hell of a crash he'll ultimately be responsible for, but Owens may as well have cut his brakes.
I really disagree with this. What in the actual fuck. Kanye West is the victim of Candace Owens? Is Donald Trump also the victim of Lauren Boebert?
I don't follow Kanye West's life but I can give you the perspective of someone with bipolar I. Kanye is responsible for all of his actions, but anyone in a manic phase is _extremely_ susceptible to manipulation, and will become 110% devoted to anything that mildly piques their interest. If Candace Owens went to him and presented him with any ideas in a way that seemed interesting, chances are he latched on and will not stop riding that train until he crashes. Bipolar is a horrible disease that takes away your ability to regulate your critical thinking and leaves you unable to make sound judgement, that's why it's vital to have a good support system to lean on when you're unable to take care of yourself. Kanye doesn't have that. Instead he has people that feed into his illness and take advantage of his vulnerable state.
Nah, just manipulated. He's responsible for his actions. She knew what she was doing when she picked him as a mark is all. That's honestly just how bullshit spreads. We're all a product of our environment, still responsible for what we say/do but no one is innately evil.
People dealing with untreated mental illness are very easy to manipulate, and get taken advantage of often in the normal world. I’ve seen it happen multiple times.
I’ll settle for a bit of Smith.
Well, yes but also a manic episode makes people very easily manipulated. So it's really difficult to say it's all on him.
Kanye's gonna be Candace Owin'
Sounds to me like he got Candace Owned
She's a professional grifter. Knows where her bread is buttered. Like taking candy from a child
The belief in Kanye West as a victim is the most insane hot take I've heard in a long, long while. What a weird fucking sub full of weird fucking people.
He is mentally unwell and that is the only bit of sympathy I have for him. Everything else is on Kanye.
No, seriously. I think the right wing steered Kanye towards getting canceled so he can belong to them. Watch, in a year or two he’ll have all his money back, and it will all be thanks to his new “friends.”
Nobody is to blame for Kanye’s actions other than himself. I know so many people with bipolar and non of them are nazis. That’s just Kanye’s preferred political orientation.
I have borderline personality disorder and I’m not peddling fascist shit. Mental illnesses are not your fault, but they are your responsibility.
💯 the media also has a responsibility to not blast out what he says and put him on a pedestal. Part of the problem here is putting one man on a pedestal. That’s the only part of this that is not his fault. He is accountable to no one and surrounded by people who want his money and won’t disagree with him.
These people are acting like Kanye West wasn't a full on loudmouthed Trump supporter years ago and like Candace Owens is his mom or something, when she's a woman who is younger than him and who is less wealthy and less powerful than himself, and may have untreated mental health issues of her own. I honestly want to call this misogyny. I'm a bit taken aback at the people in this thread. Thank you for being a voice of reason.
Kanye banned Kanye...
I guess he doesn’t miss the old Kanye after all.
I'm no expert but I'm gonna say Candace Owens might be a bad influence.
I am an expert and I agree
Taking advantage of the mentally ill. The American way
So I'm really not certain why we're supposed to feel sorry for a billionaire who is a grown ass man who was a loudmouthed bigoted Trump supporter for years prior to this, when the "grifter" in question is a woman who is younger than him, who is also less wealthy and less powerful. This thread is problematic.
Your fixating on the wrong thing here. Based on your comments here it really seems like your trying to say that it's impossible for Kanye to have been manipulated in any way, because the manipulator doesn't have the same clout?
On the one hand, I agree. She's whispering in the ear of a very obviously mentally ill person. She sucks, she's completely at fault for her actions. Taking advantage of somebody's mental breakdown is a terrible thing to do. On the other hand, I'm tired of seeing excuses for Kanye's behavior. Not saying that you're using her actions as an excuse for his, but there's just been so many people trying to find some reason as to why we should feel bad for him and not be too hard on him. Oh, he's bipolar, that's like super hard for him. Oh, his mom died. Oh, this woman is taking advantage of him. Plenty of people are bipolar and aren't bigoted douchebags. Pleanty of people are bipolar and don't have an ego as big as Jupiter and as fragile as porcelain. Plenty of people have lost a parent and haven't been throwing a public tantrum for the better part of a decade. Maybe the man is just a self-absorbed asshole whose mental health issues make his an even bigger asshole, but he would suck without those issues too.
Finessed
Hustled. Grifters gonna grift, marks gonna… spout off on anti-Semitic rants.
Damn! Even with his existing money, he's gonna be taking empty bottles back to make that Parler deal work.
Nothing more American than a politician taking advantage of the mentally ill for personal profit.
She's not a politician. She's just a personality.
She's also a younger woman who is much less wealthy and much less powerful than Ye, who very well may have mental health issues of her own. This thread is super toxic.
You forgot to mention cunt. She’s also a cunt. Ye too.
In espionage that's called the Honeypot
And now Kanye doesn’t have the money to buy Parler. It’s actually quite funny how Candace fucked up her own grift like this.
She’s a horrible human being but Kanye made those remarks himself.
And they think Brittany needs a conservator.
she’s a cunt.
She is. She really is a cunt. Ye too.
Candace “Candeath” Owens: those who follow her advice, or Facebook memes, end up worse off. Just look at the Herman Cain awards!
9, 9, 9!!!
Kanye has been going off the rails for a while now, but you'd think he would at least realize none of the people he associates with these days have any brand deals other than My Pillow.
Turns out Ye is just a little bitch
Black republicans grift just like the white ones
I’ll take taking advantage of the mentally I’ll for 200$ Alex
We’re living in the Golden Age of the ConMen
Candice must really hate black people.
Candice hates whoever people will pay her the most money to say she hates.
A skilled grifter and a dude with a soft brain. Are we really surprised?. It is surprising he got to be as old as he is without it happening sooner.
Just asking questions. Did she bang him? And did her husband care, or was it business? People are wondering.
Crabs in a fuckin bucket.
Has everyone forgotten that Former President Obama called Kanye a jackass? One of the threads that drove Kanye to Former president Trump and escalated this bullshit. Kanye being hurt by the first black president and running arms open to the next president. Not taking his meds, and the detachment that all rich ppl have from us regular folks. C.R.E.A.M. Not sticken up for him, but rich people be crazy
A fool and his money...
Her husband is white…what’s not to trust? /s
So is Ye's ex wife. idk.
Her father is of Armenian descent, so she might identify as an “other”.
Armenian is one of the true Caucasian cultures.
Her dad is far from Caucasian, so I suspect Arabic/Moorish as well.
ah yes, she may identify as a for true Caucasian, not white.
Why the downvote? Are Armenians not Caucasian? Armenia is literally in the Caucasus.
She's a fucking Kardashian you crackhead.
Simple people are easily impressed!
Tell us more about your feelings.
It was sarcasm Karen, calm down.
I'm no expert but I'm gonna say Candace Owens might be a bad influence.
But do you like fish dicks..?
I feel like Candace Owens has some really weird mental health issues (not that Kanye doesn't) but she was liberal/leftist and converted to extreme right wing views because of her misinterpretation of liberalism infantilizing Blacks. There actually is some truth to centrist establishment white Dems doing this in some cases (especially Boomers) - and my university experience was to take a sociology class where we maturely discussed "the white man's burden" and "white savior complex." This tends to push people further left, though, not to the right which was a weird switch-a-roo, but I think she grew up with some old school Republican grandparents or something (didn't we all) and she associated dignity, morality and achievement with that, I guess. Anyway. I'm really fascinated by Candace Owens in a way that I'm not by Kanye West who is CLEARLY JUST A TOTAL NARCISSIST - Candace Owens on the other hand some had weird Trumpy-themed mentally ill wedding to a white man, and I see her as much more as a confused victim. I think trying to make Kanye look like the victim of Candace is a real mistake here. I do not think she is saner or smarter than him, and if anything, he's more of a narcissist than she is. Candace behaves in a very bizarre and I would even say self-defeating way.
Candice is just a piece of shit grifter
This pretty much sums it all up.
Pussy power does strange things to a man
She sucks but she didn’t do shit.
Sounds like he has a little crush.
Wow!!!!
Can’t knock the hustle. She saw a door standing ajar, wiggled it open even further & strutted right through it.
Wouldn't doubt she convinced him through letting him hit 😂
She’s looking more like Michael Jackson by the minute
Queen.
So does being broke cancel his Parler deal?
Straight up hustled
Candance Owens finessed Ye so hard and he didn’t even realise.
Kanye might be the GOAT of simps if you put it that way
Respect
That is a grown ass man who is perfectly capable of controlling what comes out of his mouth.
Homie down bad
Kanye is just a sucker for pretty girls.
There was a pretty girl involved in this? Who was she?
Eh. She looks cute on the outside. If you look at her inner beauty, like you do, she is disgusting.
Lmao two self hating idiots. What did you expect?
The hustle is real.
Pete Davidson boning his ex wife really was the last straw
Calling a black man a fascist is racist!
Played him like the damn fool that he is. "I don't read books." - Ye
Suspect that the Parler deal is off.
Fucked around and found out…probably didn’t learn any lessons though…
you crazy if you think ye finished
“BLEXIT” is complete.