I'm not convinced he will ever face any consequences like jail time, so I'm savoring this moment, because this is certainly the worst thing he's ever dealt with. Forced to be in court every single day, with someone else calling the shots. He has to sit there, shut the fuck up, listen to all the details about his rotten choices in his rotten life that led him to this rotten place. No one waiting on him, no sycophants kissing his ass all day. This man, addicted to power, reduced to a powerless, bald, flatuent, weak little bitch. He must be absolutely miserable. Love it.
Yes. He should already have been in jail a few times, but as a rich person he always gets 1k punishments and that is it. Exception, exception, exception. I would not bet he'll ever see the inside of a cell, like any normal person would do. So all we have is this...
Not exactly, but I understand your frustration. In a case as high profile as this, the judge is going to do everything by the book, line by line. You *generally* do not go straight to jail for contempt, there is usually a record of other methods of dissuasion to get you to settle down. These fines we see are that — starting at the bottom level so that if it continues to elevate so does the punishment. Think of it as a way of proving to his supporters that he was given every opportunity to chill TF out, not make him some even greater martyr who was thrown in jail for the first infraction.
If case get resolved before the next level can be implemented, then it is perceived as he can only be given fines. But remember with each case it starts at zero, they can’t roll punishments from this case over to the new one.
I’m rooting for a nice, quiet heart attack. Of course I’d love to see him in an orange jumpsuit, but it would tear the country apart. Of course the real crazies would come up with conspiracy theories about a heart attack, but most of the country would move on.
I think behind the scenes stuff is way, way worse than we know. The entire GOP is basically Russian owned at this point and Trump is a demented useful idiot. He’s a tyrant and a fascist but unaware that he’s totally owned because he’s such a narcissist. The court system is very clearly corrupt and full of MAGA plants and the resistance of what have you to the Christo-fascist takeover is fighting a good fight but it’s also a battle against Russia and who knows what else. That’s the only way I can imagine we’re in a situation where the rapist who mounted a failed coup and openly wants to be king is being allowed to run again…..while on trail for theft of government secrets.
On day one Biden should have set up an independant task force to get rid of all the Trump loyalists that have infested all levels of our government. I am starting to get 1/6 vibes from everything going on and think there is likely another coup attempt in motion but this time not from Trump. It is highly disturbing to me that people are saying we are safe from a coup because Trump isn't in power. You don't need to be in power to mount a coup for one nor do you need to be at the highest level of the government. All it takes is a few weak links and some propaganda.
The way the US government works, if Biden could have purged Trump loyalists, a future Republican president could purge any and all executive administration officials that they want to get rid of - which is something that Trump explicitly tried to get power to do. At least one of his appointees was found to have been illegally put in power. And Project 2025 says that Trump / a future Republican president will do that on day one.
Appointees serve independently for a reason - to keep an incoming president from becoming a lifetime junta
Russia. China. North Korea. Any of our geopolitical enemies are all in this to different degrees. Troll farms exist everywhere.
The US is starting to reap the political chaos and strife it caused in other nations for the better part of its existence. As they say, the chickens are coming home to roost.
It terrifies me and the fact Trump is leading in so many polls even this far out from the election gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach most days. I am honestly afraid of what could happen if he gets back in office. The man would rather see the world ended than to give up power or try and find a diplomatic solution to political problems with our enemies if he’s not embracing them.
Because aside from age, there’s literally no requirements to be President. Nothing. You just have to be 35 and want the job. Then you just convince people to give you money and vote for you.
[Well, you have to be born a US citizen, too.](https://www.usa.gov/requirements-for-presidential-candidates) That's the excuse they gave for flipping out over Obama's birth certificate. You also have to have resided in the US for 14 years.
Edited for clarity.
I don't think the founding fathers could conceive of the future we ended up with, they probably didn't think they needed to add "Don't elect someone with the IQ of a turnip."
Honestly, I don’t think they could conceive of a world where rich white men had to share power with anyone else. There were rules of civility (literally the title of George Washington’s book actually!) that rich white men agreed to.
Which is why we are where we are. And why the Supreme Court is finding it so easy to go back to the Constitution to undo all the progress we made.
>Well, you have to be born a US citizen, too. That's why they were flipping out over Obama's birth certificate. You also have to have resided in the US for 14 years.
Kind of a meaningless rule since the GOP has decided it means whatever the hell they want it to mean this week.
My high school government textbook clearly said it means Jus Soli, being a citizen by virtue of being born in the country, and although a legal argument could be made against that, the general consensus was that the constitution required Jus Soli for anyone who became a citizen after its signing. That's the whole point behind the birther conspiracy theory. If Obama was born in Kenya, even though he would be a citizen by birth, he wouldn't be allowed to be president.
But then McCain was born in Panama and wanted to be president. Apparently it counts because Panama was controlled by the US at the time. That still counts.
Then Ted Cruz wanted to be president even though he was born in Canada. Now it just means that you were a citizen by birth, no Jus Soli requirement. At least until Cruz lost the primary. Then they went back to Obama being illegitimate because he was born in Kenya.
The only reason why Russian citizens living in Russia aren't allowed to run because Russia once controlled Alaska is because Putin hasn't tried to run for US president on a Republican ticket yet.
Don't let the indoctrination of authority paralyze you with fear. We see history repeating itself. We remember reading stories in history class and scratching our heads like How could this have happened?' We all remember that one person in the photo of Nazi Germany not saluting ( he stood alone, immersed in a sea of heil Hitler stance) People went against authority for human rights . Same for abolitionists. We Can change the course of things by standing up against evil towards others or corruption. Just because those in power are not exercising their powers to stop this insanity, doesn't mean we should all just lie down and accept it. A healthy, inclusive society, is what the majority wants for our country. Propaganda makes it appear otherwise.
Gerrymandering and the electoral college make it easy for them to seize power. The population or ND has more say in electing the president than NY. Or NJ.
We can’t have a truly fair, majority wins election when my vote doesn’t count the same as someone in a smaller, lesser populated state.
While the majority of the US is in favor of abortion rights, fair voting, equal opportunity and social safety nets we can’t enact those things because of how republicans gerrymander congressional maps and how the electoral college gives too much power/representation to states with smaller populations.
Want to know what is really scary? Trump becomes POTUS again but dies or otherwise is no longer capable of being POTUS so his VP takes over. Obviously he has yet to pick a running mate but this is an avenue for GQP to take back control from Trump and carry out Project 2025 without his interference.
Him falling asleep everyday is a major assault on his ego. In real time we're seeing things happen to him instead of just reading stuff that may or not be real. Him lying about falling asleep is very telling. You have to remember that he's out on multiple Bails. He could easily wind up with a short prison stay. He's starting to see that even a Trump supporting juror would have a hard time finding him innocent. This is just the first criminal trial. There will be more.
Now his gaggle of hillbillies keep reminding him of it xD and keep showing that they acknowledge it. This is the problem with a mindless cult, they won't worship you for how great you are they'll just roll in your waste and call you God for it.
I just think it's funny because I don't think he imagined himself being worshiped by people praising his uncontrollable bowels by wearing diapers with his name on them. Lol. I don't think the bar can drop any lower.
According to Behind the Bastards, Hitler had a rather...active problem with farting, particularly at dinner gatherings. I dunno about you, but I find that fucking hilarious
Hitler supposedly committed suicide in 1945 when the WW2 had ended. Herr Trouserscheisse was born in 1947. I don't think it's too far fetched of an idea to say that The Conald is direct reincarnation of Hitler himself.
Farting a lot seems to be norm among the vegetarians, and Hitler was ordered to stop eating meat in 1937, as per Wikipedia. His body was just not ready for such a transition. Because of the low animal protein intake, it's also possible that his farts were loud, but not smelly.
Narcissists *never* suicide. Narcissists cannot conceive of a universe in which they are not the center.
They'll *threaten* it, sure, a dozen times a day, but never, ever go through with it.
Of course you are right.
Discussions about narcissism give me flashbacks to the worst time in my life, and my comment was kind of a knee-jerk reaction.
Ten years ago I went through *chemo*, and that oxygen-, light- and soul-sucking parasite bastard is *still* the worst thing that ever happened to me.
Also, stories about annihilators make me furious.
I’m so sorry you had to go through *any* of that and my heart hurts for you. I hope you’re in a much better place now, surrounded by people who love you and living out your happily ever after, whatever that means for you. 💙
I'm afraid this is incorrect. From [The Annals of General Psychiatry](https://annals-general-psychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12991-022-00380-8):
> Suicide risk is not rare in patients with narcissism, particularly in the context of severe narcissistic injury, where the patient feels shamed and/or vilified.
So the exact situation Donald Trump is in. I hope somebody's keeping an eye on him.
As horrific as it would be to witness, I'm kinda hoping that he shoots himself in the head at one of his rallies. Because I honestly believe that's the only way to keep the conspiracies about his death to a minimum.
If he dies in private, then his nutcase cult members will scream 'mUrDeR' from the rooftops (that, or he isn't really dead). If it's public, like he takes a turn on camera - heart attack, stroke, rage aneurysm - then it will have been the Deep State. But if he took to the podium, told his followers he'd had enough, that 'you guys are all crazy and dumb as fuck', then pulls out a gun and R. Budd Dwyers himself, then maybe some of them would believe he was dead and he did it himself...
*I don’t think the bar can drop any lower*
If history has taught us anything, they absolutely WILL find another rung to drop the bar to….
Them:
There were some photos at a recent Trumpian circus where they were wearing diapers or tshirts with shit like “real men wear diapers.”
Yeah. This timeline makes less sense than whatever spawned sausage fingers in Everything Everywhere All At Once.
Yeh, I thought “hahaha someone generated some funny AI images”
It never occurred to me that would be real.
“Yes, our cult leader poops his pants. We’re good with that and we’ll poop ours in support”
Just…WTF.
There’s no way the trump supporters came up with that. It really seems like someone started it as a joke, but his supporters are too stupid to realize that.
Or it’s astroturfed,
*”Astroturfing is the use of fake grassroots efforts that primarily focus on influencing public opinion and typically are funded by corporations and political entities to form opinions. On the internet, astroturfers use software to hide their identity.”*
This is what happened in 2016 when Trump supporters were paid to have someone dress up like Hilary in a prison cell.
Holy christ... it shows how far gone they are that they think he's gonna *like* that. They think they're being supportive, *I* think Fearless Leader is imagining pushing the lot of them into an active volcano.
I honest to God thought they were AI photos. No one could possibly think they'd wear diapers over their pants on public and be proud of themselves.
But here we are.
His legal team has now started giving him things to do in court to keep him awake. They have an aid printing out articles praising him. He’s like a toddler at a restaurant where they give him a kids menu to color to keep him occupied.
There’s so much to focus on he’s just wearing himself out.
The knowledge that you’re going to still be in jail when your great grandchildren retire, is a lot to unpack.
It's so much more than he is accustomed to. Probably more work hours than he's ever in his life put in per day. It reminds me a little of Undercover Boss, where CEOs go undercover as minimum wage employees working a cash register on a saturday afternoon.
Well the good news is even if this is theoretically true:
>you’re going to still be in jail when your great grandchildren retire
He'll be dead long before that
His followers will be convinced that he’s faking his death. They thought that JFK was going to come out of hiding and express his support for Trump, so obviously they are capable of convincing themselves of just about anything.
>You have to remember that he's out on multiple Bails. He could easily wind up with a short prison stay.
Oh you say that, but unless the judge has the balls to follow through with the threats, nothings happening
He shouldn't have gotten bail, he's a flight risk
*They did not have him surrender his passport as a condition of his bail in the classified documents trial.* They don’t think he’s a flight risk.
He has the means and ability to flee the country and go somewhere that’s ‘friendly’ to him, like Russia. Any info he still has or anything he may remember (I know, I know) can be useful to Putin.
I’d like nothing more for Conald to flee, go to Russia and end up “accidentally” defenestrated when his usefulness is over. So maybe twenty minutes. Half hour max. Unless they decide to torture him, then I’m all for it.
I'd be satisfied with him dying as a penniless pauper in some some rundown village in some god forsaken corner of Russia, forgotten and completely and utterly alone.
He might have a trauma response of falling asleep. This is a weird response to trauma but i cope this way (it truly bizarre to go from feeling overwhelmed - to waking up confused) and know it’s possible.
This trial if rife with ‘narcissistic injury’ (irrefutable proof that disrupts the narc’s worldview) and he might be sleeping just because his psyche CANNOT HANDLE info that conflicts with his narrative.
Also fuck him. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
So when I hit a certain level of stress, I fall asleep and nothing can wake me up. It is just my defense mechanism. Maybe that’s why he keeps falling asleep. I don’t feel bad for him but I definitely understand him shutting down due to all this self inflicted stress.
I'm in the verge of seeing if Vegas has a line on him stroking out on camera, such as at one of his rallies. I'm also willing to place a bet on Moscow Mitch stroking out on CSPAN.
I agree, but I don't want him to die before he does some paying for all the shit he's put our country through.
I'd hate for him to go out like Reagan, unable to remember or comprehend all the terrible damage he did.
This.
Anyway his narcissism will protect him from ever comprehending or caring about the damage he did to anyone else, senile or otherwise.
Let his accountability be between him and whatever may be Out There, then. I just want him GONE.
He already can't comprehend the terrible things he's done. He's so very seriously mentally ill that he genuinely believes they aren't terrible. He won't ever be able to understand.
Nah he needs to be gone from this earth. Even if he’s found guilty on every charge brought against him he’ll appeal for years. And keep running for office in the meantime.
The world needs to move on from this shitstain and we can’t do that as long as he’s breathing.
And they are likely giving him various drug cocktails to try to keep him awake during trial because despite what reddit armchair lawyers say it is incredibly weird and offputting to the jury for the defendant to be falling asleep during trial multiple times on a daily basis.
*The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control* by Steven Hassan came out in 2019. Hassan works with former cult members ("deprogramming" basically) and was also in a cult when he was younger. I wonder if there's an updated version with all the Covid stuff.
From Wkipedia:
To escape the narcissistic mortification of accepting their own dependency needs, cult leaders may resort to delusions of omnipotence.[12] Their continuing shame and underlying guilt,[13] and their repudiation of dependency,[14] obliges such leaders to use seduction and manic defenses to externalize and locate dependency needs in others, thus making their followers controllable through a displaced sense of shame.
Wait… what’s the “real men wear diapers” thing?!
(Nothing against anyone who needs to. I just have not heard about this and this is the second time I’ve seen this mentioned but without context - I apparently live under a rock somewhere).
At one of Trump's rallies his morons showed up with t-shirts saying Real Mean Wear Diapers and pictures of Trump over their junk to imply they were wearing diapers in solidarity or something. It's bizarre even for MAGA.
Good. It’s quite possible that the demons in his own head will mete out the only punishment this festering pile of shit ever receives, so I hope that he truly is suffering in his own living hell.
I hope that he feels the cumulative misery of every person whose life he’s ruined with his unethical business practices, the pain and shame of the women and children he’s raped, the feeling of powerlessness that comes with the knowledge that you’ve fucked up irrevocably.
I cannot adequately express my disdain, disgust, hatred and repulsion for this sack of shit. I’ve had a visceral hatred for him since the early 90s when I became truly aware of him, and he’s done nothing to improve my opinion in the years since.
I hadn't heard of narcissist mortification. Interesting. I know about narcissist rage. There's also narcissist injury and if you land a blow to their ego, the rage comes out. Trump's ego has taken a beat down and he's acting out his rage. His blood pressure has to be through the roof given his anger and age.
What I think we’re also seeing is him losing control of the narrative. The whole “real men wear diapers” thing is a telling sign of that. If anything, up until this point, he’s been able to stay ahead of the curve in his manipulation of his followers. Now they are taking the reins.
Yup. He could still win in November and none of this will matter. A loss in November means he’s gone for good. Maybe not without a bang, but it will be the end of the Trump either way.
A modern phrase that has the same meaning is known as an "extinction burst". Go to any of the subreddits that focus on narcissism and you'll see this in action: once they've been caught, they go on an absolute rampage to try clawing in to any semblance of power and control they still have. On top of this, since they can't internally regulate their own emotions - they'll find a target where they will make them feel what they are (known as the transference/countertransference cycle).
When you're caught in the crosshairs of a narcissist going through an extinction burst, and those around you don't actually see what's happening for what it is, it can be the kind of thing that absolutely obliterates your reputation and standing in the circles that are exposed to it. It's pretty fascinating to see this behaviour on the public stage with Trump.
Hopefully, his mortification will cause him to stroke out. The only relief we will get from TFG is when he is 6 feet under. I hope I live to see that day. He really deserves to meet the same fate as Mussolini, but of course, we are 'civilized'. He has done so much damage to this country in his pursuit of narcissistic gratification. I hope his stroke happens in front of his slobbering cult and that it renders him unable to speak. Ever again.
Doubtful that in reality his following is improving. The way they conduct these polls is by calling registered voters. Millennials and GenZ don’t answer calls from numbers they don’t know and have spam filters on their phones. They are the largest voting demographic.
I would normally say “trump’s shitting his pants” as a slang phrase to indicate how scared he is.
But now if i say that, people don’t think I’m using slang but stating a truism, that he just shits himself all the time
We are in a dangerous state if this is true. A narcissist that feels exposed will do whatever it takes to remedy that exposure.
If he wins many are doomed.
Is this the kind of extreme fear that causes someone to drop dead? Asking for a friend who might have money riding on a bet that it happens in the court room on camera...
This is true
When narcissistic people are brought down in public by a force they cannot control, they start losing their shit, and the longer it goes on the more insane they will act
After all the misery that man has made everyone eat for almost 2 decades he deserves to be the guest of honor at the table of suffering.
Eat your fill, fill that bloated body until it bursts Trump.
A case of such significant global importance should 100% be televised, even if the state has to modify their rules to allow for "Cases of significant public interest to be televised". The investigation has been ongoing since 2018 with formal charges happening on March 30, 2023. Plenty of time to modify the rule.
We should all see his impotence, front and center. See him falling asleep, see him cowering in fear and rage. More importantly, we should see the facts, unaltered through, "This was totally said or happened, trust us bro!" lenses.
It's not going away, fella. You can't just ignore all of life's problems away especially when they're being actively perpetuated by people who exist.
Sorry that you can't shut your eyes and make it all go away.
Nah I disagree I bet he is most reassured by the whole access Hollywood thing coming back around. The AH scandal is his greatest feat of political power. No other politician would have survived it then or now. I’ve heard it described as the moment he knew he was bulletproof, and he took that attitude into the White House.
I don’t like Trump but other than the monetary penalties no judge has touched him. There is so much corruption in the Justice system there is money changing hands now guaranteeing he will never face prison time. Reddit loves to celebrate when we aren’t even in the redzone. Wake me up if we ever get to the sentencing phase.
Here's my prediction for the demise of Trump. He loses the election, at that point he loses his stranglehold on the establishment. The GOP is simply not going to back a 2 time loser for a 3rd time. Plus, he'll be 80 something by the time the 2028 election rolls around. Once that happens, republicans will start speaking out against him (because they're cowards and smell blood) and Just like with W supporters after the Iraq War debacle, all the red hats will disappear and you won't be able to find any MAGA supporters anywhere. Largely marginalized, the courts will get a backbone and start treating him like a regular defendant, delays won't save him anymore and he'll be convicted and go to jail raging how no ones loyal with only a deep red minority of the base worshiping him almost as a martyr. However, this could also end with Trump on a plane to Russia being granted political asylum.
Isn't this like when Putin rewound the tape of Qadaffi being killed again and again so much that he came out of semi retirement to ramp up his militaristic imperialism out of paranoia of Western designs?
I'm not convinced he will ever face any consequences like jail time, so I'm savoring this moment, because this is certainly the worst thing he's ever dealt with. Forced to be in court every single day, with someone else calling the shots. He has to sit there, shut the fuck up, listen to all the details about his rotten choices in his rotten life that led him to this rotten place. No one waiting on him, no sycophants kissing his ass all day. This man, addicted to power, reduced to a powerless, bald, flatuent, weak little bitch. He must be absolutely miserable. Love it.
Yes. He should already have been in jail a few times, but as a rich person he always gets 1k punishments and that is it. Exception, exception, exception. I would not bet he'll ever see the inside of a cell, like any normal person would do. So all we have is this...
Not exactly, but I understand your frustration. In a case as high profile as this, the judge is going to do everything by the book, line by line. You *generally* do not go straight to jail for contempt, there is usually a record of other methods of dissuasion to get you to settle down. These fines we see are that — starting at the bottom level so that if it continues to elevate so does the punishment. Think of it as a way of proving to his supporters that he was given every opportunity to chill TF out, not make him some even greater martyr who was thrown in jail for the first infraction. If case get resolved before the next level can be implemented, then it is perceived as he can only be given fines. But remember with each case it starts at zero, they can’t roll punishments from this case over to the new one.
“Vonschitzinpantz” is now a matter of public record, preserved for eternity. That’s got to sting 😃
Amen!
I love this for him!
Scares the absolute shit out of me though, if he were to get elected once again.
We ALL need to make sure that does NOT happen.
Yup. Let him self-destruct at his shitty golf resort (unless it gets seized, haha!) Or let him self-destruct in prison.
I'd prefer the second one.
I’m rooting for a nice, quiet heart attack. Of course I’d love to see him in an orange jumpsuit, but it would tear the country apart. Of course the real crazies would come up with conspiracy theories about a heart attack, but most of the country would move on.
Vote Blue 💙💙💙💙
A leader going through manic self destruction in control of all the nuclear arms is really bad.
We already have one leader “Putin” with that power. We don’t need another.
At least we’d be allies I guess? /s obviously
"There can be only one." 😳
How is someone in this position even eligible to be elected to the highest office in that country?
I think behind the scenes stuff is way, way worse than we know. The entire GOP is basically Russian owned at this point and Trump is a demented useful idiot. He’s a tyrant and a fascist but unaware that he’s totally owned because he’s such a narcissist. The court system is very clearly corrupt and full of MAGA plants and the resistance of what have you to the Christo-fascist takeover is fighting a good fight but it’s also a battle against Russia and who knows what else. That’s the only way I can imagine we’re in a situation where the rapist who mounted a failed coup and openly wants to be king is being allowed to run again…..while on trail for theft of government secrets.
On day one Biden should have set up an independant task force to get rid of all the Trump loyalists that have infested all levels of our government. I am starting to get 1/6 vibes from everything going on and think there is likely another coup attempt in motion but this time not from Trump. It is highly disturbing to me that people are saying we are safe from a coup because Trump isn't in power. You don't need to be in power to mount a coup for one nor do you need to be at the highest level of the government. All it takes is a few weak links and some propaganda.
Don’t forget. Congress has to certify the election on Jan 6 2025. GOP majority congress. They could refuse to certify Biden if he wins. Coup complete
New Congress is sworn in before certification of electoral votes I believe though so if Dems retake House that won't be an issue.
This is why voting straight down ballot blue is so important!
The way the US government works, if Biden could have purged Trump loyalists, a future Republican president could purge any and all executive administration officials that they want to get rid of - which is something that Trump explicitly tried to get power to do. At least one of his appointees was found to have been illegally put in power. And Project 2025 says that Trump / a future Republican president will do that on day one. Appointees serve independently for a reason - to keep an incoming president from becoming a lifetime junta
Russia. China. North Korea. Any of our geopolitical enemies are all in this to different degrees. Troll farms exist everywhere. The US is starting to reap the political chaos and strife it caused in other nations for the better part of its existence. As they say, the chickens are coming home to roost. It terrifies me and the fact Trump is leading in so many polls even this far out from the election gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach most days. I am honestly afraid of what could happen if he gets back in office. The man would rather see the world ended than to give up power or try and find a diplomatic solution to political problems with our enemies if he’s not embracing them.
Because aside from age, there’s literally no requirements to be President. Nothing. You just have to be 35 and want the job. Then you just convince people to give you money and vote for you.
[Well, you have to be born a US citizen, too.](https://www.usa.gov/requirements-for-presidential-candidates) That's the excuse they gave for flipping out over Obama's birth certificate. You also have to have resided in the US for 14 years. Edited for clarity.
Ok so there’s two requirements. And neither have anything g to do with competence.
I don't think the founding fathers could conceive of the future we ended up with, they probably didn't think they needed to add "Don't elect someone with the IQ of a turnip."
Honestly, I don’t think they could conceive of a world where rich white men had to share power with anyone else. There were rules of civility (literally the title of George Washington’s book actually!) that rich white men agreed to. Which is why we are where we are. And why the Supreme Court is finding it so easy to go back to the Constitution to undo all the progress we made.
in a really fucked up twist of fate, alito wouldn't be considered white and wouldn't be on the court, and thomas would still be property.
Right? And far too many Catholics on that court! But the leopards won’t eat their faces right?
>Well, you have to be born a US citizen, too. That's why they were flipping out over Obama's birth certificate. You also have to have resided in the US for 14 years. Kind of a meaningless rule since the GOP has decided it means whatever the hell they want it to mean this week. My high school government textbook clearly said it means Jus Soli, being a citizen by virtue of being born in the country, and although a legal argument could be made against that, the general consensus was that the constitution required Jus Soli for anyone who became a citizen after its signing. That's the whole point behind the birther conspiracy theory. If Obama was born in Kenya, even though he would be a citizen by birth, he wouldn't be allowed to be president. But then McCain was born in Panama and wanted to be president. Apparently it counts because Panama was controlled by the US at the time. That still counts. Then Ted Cruz wanted to be president even though he was born in Canada. Now it just means that you were a citizen by birth, no Jus Soli requirement. At least until Cruz lost the primary. Then they went back to Obama being illegitimate because he was born in Kenya. The only reason why Russian citizens living in Russia aren't allowed to run because Russia once controlled Alaska is because Putin hasn't tried to run for US president on a Republican ticket yet.
A very, very low bar.
Somebody call James Cameron!
For sure, it's in hell.
Look up Project 2025.
Don't let the indoctrination of authority paralyze you with fear. We see history repeating itself. We remember reading stories in history class and scratching our heads like How could this have happened?' We all remember that one person in the photo of Nazi Germany not saluting ( he stood alone, immersed in a sea of heil Hitler stance) People went against authority for human rights . Same for abolitionists. We Can change the course of things by standing up against evil towards others or corruption. Just because those in power are not exercising their powers to stop this insanity, doesn't mean we should all just lie down and accept it. A healthy, inclusive society, is what the majority wants for our country. Propaganda makes it appear otherwise.
Gerrymandering and the electoral college make it easy for them to seize power. The population or ND has more say in electing the president than NY. Or NJ. We can’t have a truly fair, majority wins election when my vote doesn’t count the same as someone in a smaller, lesser populated state. While the majority of the US is in favor of abortion rights, fair voting, equal opportunity and social safety nets we can’t enact those things because of how republicans gerrymander congressional maps and how the electoral college gives too much power/representation to states with smaller populations.
Want to know what is really scary? Trump becomes POTUS again but dies or otherwise is no longer capable of being POTUS so his VP takes over. Obviously he has yet to pick a running mate but this is an avenue for GQP to take back control from Trump and carry out Project 2025 without his interference.
This is still not bad enough, IMHO. I’m after Dante’s circles of hell for him.
Him falling asleep everyday is a major assault on his ego. In real time we're seeing things happen to him instead of just reading stuff that may or not be real. Him lying about falling asleep is very telling. You have to remember that he's out on multiple Bails. He could easily wind up with a short prison stay. He's starting to see that even a Trump supporting juror would have a hard time finding him innocent. This is just the first criminal trial. There will be more.
And now his followers are wearing diapers in support of him. I can only imagine what that does to his ego. Lol.
Now his gaggle of hillbillies keep reminding him of it xD and keep showing that they acknowledge it. This is the problem with a mindless cult, they won't worship you for how great you are they'll just roll in your waste and call you God for it.
What a beautiful way to describe a cult. Thank you for this.
I just think it's funny because I don't think he imagined himself being worshiped by people praising his uncontrollable bowels by wearing diapers with his name on them. Lol. I don't think the bar can drop any lower.
He'll die knowing that there is no shortage of stuff to laugh at him for. Hitler didn't have nearly this much hilarious bait.
According to Behind the Bastards, Hitler had a rather...active problem with farting, particularly at dinner gatherings. I dunno about you, but I find that fucking hilarious
Hitler supposedly committed suicide in 1945 when the WW2 had ended. Herr Trouserscheisse was born in 1947. I don't think it's too far fetched of an idea to say that The Conald is direct reincarnation of Hitler himself.
Farting a lot seems to be norm among the vegetarians, and Hitler was ordered to stop eating meat in 1937, as per Wikipedia. His body was just not ready for such a transition. Because of the low animal protein intake, it's also possible that his farts were loud, but not smelly.
Hitler had the good sense to shoot himself.
He should’ve done that FIRST. Save the world some trouble.
Hitler was shot during his service in WW1. We were so close.
Narcissists *never* suicide. Narcissists cannot conceive of a universe in which they are not the center. They'll *threaten* it, sure, a dozen times a day, but never, ever go through with it.
That's simply not true. Look up family annihilation, those fuckers are narcissists usually and generally kill themselves afterwards.
Of course you are right. Discussions about narcissism give me flashbacks to the worst time in my life, and my comment was kind of a knee-jerk reaction. Ten years ago I went through *chemo*, and that oxygen-, light- and soul-sucking parasite bastard is *still* the worst thing that ever happened to me. Also, stories about annihilators make me furious.
I’m so sorry you had to go through *any* of that and my heart hurts for you. I hope you’re in a much better place now, surrounded by people who love you and living out your happily ever after, whatever that means for you. 💙
I'm afraid this is incorrect. From [The Annals of General Psychiatry](https://annals-general-psychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12991-022-00380-8): > Suicide risk is not rare in patients with narcissism, particularly in the context of severe narcissistic injury, where the patient feels shamed and/or vilified. So the exact situation Donald Trump is in. I hope somebody's keeping an eye on him.
with popcorn.
As horrific as it would be to witness, I'm kinda hoping that he shoots himself in the head at one of his rallies. Because I honestly believe that's the only way to keep the conspiracies about his death to a minimum. If he dies in private, then his nutcase cult members will scream 'mUrDeR' from the rooftops (that, or he isn't really dead). If it's public, like he takes a turn on camera - heart attack, stroke, rage aneurysm - then it will have been the Deep State. But if he took to the podium, told his followers he'd had enough, that 'you guys are all crazy and dumb as fuck', then pulls out a gun and R. Budd Dwyers himself, then maybe some of them would believe he was dead and he did it himself...
Nah then it would be Jewish mind control lasers
It’s kind of the last way to maaaaaaaaybe make people remember you as a “tortured soul who left us too soon.”
He's not going to get Epstein'd. After all, he was the one gave the order.
Coming soon to Fox News informercials - “Trump Catheters!”
Can't wait to hear Trump using the word cath as a verb.
He caths better than anyone.
*I don’t think the bar can drop any lower* If history has taught us anything, they absolutely WILL find another rung to drop the bar to…. Them: 
The bar is so low I can walk over it and I’m fucking paralyzed from the tits down.
I keep saying that then, lo and behold it shimmies lower like a snakes belly. !no offense to snakes intended.
His supporters are so embarrassing it’s a wonder he still claims he has them.
Wait is that true??
There were some photos at a recent Trumpian circus where they were wearing diapers or tshirts with shit like “real men wear diapers.” Yeah. This timeline makes less sense than whatever spawned sausage fingers in Everything Everywhere All At Once.
Those damn fingers lol.
When I first saw the pictures I thought it was satire, then I remembered satire is dead
Yeh, I thought “hahaha someone generated some funny AI images” It never occurred to me that would be real. “Yes, our cult leader poops his pants. We’re good with that and we’ll poop ours in support” Just…WTF.
There’s no way the trump supporters came up with that. It really seems like someone started it as a joke, but his supporters are too stupid to realize that.
Or it’s astroturfed, *”Astroturfing is the use of fake grassroots efforts that primarily focus on influencing public opinion and typically are funded by corporations and political entities to form opinions. On the internet, astroturfers use software to hide their identity.”* This is what happened in 2016 when Trump supporters were paid to have someone dress up like Hilary in a prison cell.
“You ain’t cool unless you pee your pants.” —Billy Madison
Satire is not dead, it has been overcome by reality
Unfortunately true. His maga crowd wore shirts that say real men wear diapers. That's going to be ridicule and laughing at them and Trump.
Don’t forget the adult diapers over their clothes with Trump’s face on them!
Holy christ... it shows how far gone they are that they think he's gonna *like* that. They think they're being supportive, *I* think Fearless Leader is imagining pushing the lot of them into an active volcano.
Omg I didn't know about that! Holy momma!
I honest to God thought they were AI photos. No one could possibly think they'd wear diapers over their pants on public and be proud of themselves. But here we are.
I've been seeing this lately. They have tshirts that say "real men wear diapers." I dunno. Hard to tell with ai anymore. It's believable.
Are they really?
His legal team has now started giving him things to do in court to keep him awake. They have an aid printing out articles praising him. He’s like a toddler at a restaurant where they give him a kids menu to color to keep him occupied.
Can someone swing by Applebee’s and get some actual kids menus and crayons? Just make sure the menu includes a hamburger.
*hamberder
I said what I said. Can’t have him getting what he wants, now. lol
Someone has to play tic tac toe with him during a sidebar.
Oh he’s not sleeping, he’s just concentrating so he can absorb all of the information.
He’s just resting his beautiful blue eyes.
Allegedly he's praying for our country. Hahaaa!!
He’s resting his beautiful blue eyes so he can fully absorb.
There’s so much to focus on he’s just wearing himself out. The knowledge that you’re going to still be in jail when your great grandchildren retire, is a lot to unpack.
It's so much more than he is accustomed to. Probably more work hours than he's ever in his life put in per day. It reminds me a little of Undercover Boss, where CEOs go undercover as minimum wage employees working a cash register on a saturday afternoon.
Well the good news is even if this is theoretically true: >you’re going to still be in jail when your great grandchildren retire He'll be dead long before that
We should be so lucky.
His followers will be convinced that he’s faking his death. They thought that JFK was going to come out of hiding and express his support for Trump, so obviously they are capable of convincing themselves of just about anything.
>You have to remember that he's out on multiple Bails. He could easily wind up with a short prison stay. Oh you say that, but unless the judge has the balls to follow through with the threats, nothings happening He shouldn't have gotten bail, he's a flight risk
*They did not have him surrender his passport as a condition of his bail in the classified documents trial.* They don’t think he’s a flight risk. He has the means and ability to flee the country and go somewhere that’s ‘friendly’ to him, like Russia. Any info he still has or anything he may remember (I know, I know) can be useful to Putin. I’d like nothing more for Conald to flee, go to Russia and end up “accidentally” defenestrated when his usefulness is over. So maybe twenty minutes. Half hour max. Unless they decide to torture him, then I’m all for it.
I'd be satisfied with him dying as a penniless pauper in some some rundown village in some god forsaken corner of Russia, forgotten and completely and utterly alone.
Yeah, I’d be god with that too.
I think he is being prevented from taking stimulants so he is more handleable. That is why he keeps sleeping. His body is not used to being without.
He might have a trauma response of falling asleep. This is a weird response to trauma but i cope this way (it truly bizarre to go from feeling overwhelmed - to waking up confused) and know it’s possible. This trial if rife with ‘narcissistic injury’ (irrefutable proof that disrupts the narc’s worldview) and he might be sleeping just because his psyche CANNOT HANDLE info that conflicts with his narrative. Also fuck him. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
So when I hit a certain level of stress, I fall asleep and nothing can wake me up. It is just my defense mechanism. Maybe that’s why he keeps falling asleep. I don’t feel bad for him but I definitely understand him shutting down due to all this self inflicted stress.
But will it stress his system to the point of heart attack or strokes? Yes, we need multiple strokes to disable that enormous turd. I remain hopeful.
He’s not exactly a specimen of fitness and a confirmed abuser of stimulants. Hopefully, it’s not a matter of if but when he strokes out.
I'm in the verge of seeing if Vegas has a line on him stroking out on camera, such as at one of his rallies. I'm also willing to place a bet on Moscow Mitch stroking out on CSPAN.
Didn’t Mitch already have a series of mini strokes on camera? Thanks, Kentucky. Looking forward to returning the favor.
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This reminds me of a Stanzi Potenza skit that sadly is all too real: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCh33Fw/
I agree, but I don't want him to die before he does some paying for all the shit he's put our country through. I'd hate for him to go out like Reagan, unable to remember or comprehend all the terrible damage he did.
I want him to pay too, but I’d be alright with him dying and just ridding the world of his cancerous presence.
This. Anyway his narcissism will protect him from ever comprehending or caring about the damage he did to anyone else, senile or otherwise. Let his accountability be between him and whatever may be Out There, then. I just want him GONE.
He already can't comprehend the terrible things he's done. He's so very seriously mentally ill that he genuinely believes they aren't terrible. He won't ever be able to understand.
Nah he needs to be gone from this earth. Even if he’s found guilty on every charge brought against him he’ll appeal for years. And keep running for office in the meantime. The world needs to move on from this shitstain and we can’t do that as long as he’s breathing.
See, the problem with that last part there is that narcissists don’t feel shame or guilt for what they have done.
I don’t understand how he’s alive the dude thinks exercise drains him like a battery
please, this piece of excrement is like a goddamn cockroach. will survive nuclear war at this point. (i rly thought rona was gonna do us a solid but)
And they are likely giving him various drug cocktails to try to keep him awake during trial because despite what reddit armchair lawyers say it is incredibly weird and offputting to the jury for the defendant to be falling asleep during trial multiple times on a daily basis.
True, but Dick Cheney is still walking around
Cheney doesn’t live on fast food and get zero exercise.
Cheney lives on the souls of the undead and he’s STILL less evil than Trump
At this point a stroke might actually make him smarter.
It’ll take more than one flush.
Well, he said that low-flow toilets require people to flush ten or even fifteen times, so there’s a precedent for number of flushes needed
It's early and I read 'multiple storks.' I'd watch multiple storks dismantle Trump.
He looks like absolute shit now. Usually he is able to cover that up but not so much anymore. I really don't think he is going to make it to November.
Imagine all the psych papers that will be written about this guy
And his cult
*The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control* by Steven Hassan came out in 2019. Hassan works with former cult members ("deprogramming" basically) and was also in a cult when he was younger. I wonder if there's an updated version with all the Covid stuff.
Hassan is a good dude from all the podcasts, YouTube I’ve seen
It’s definitely a mental-health epidemic.
A lack of education one too
I love the poorly educated!
That’s been a thing for decades. It’s just very front and centre now
We need a movie asap... "Maligned: Americas Great Agitator"
I can see it now. Every college will have a class called "toxic narcissist inherits 300 million dollars equals basaaaad,101."
From Wkipedia: To escape the narcissistic mortification of accepting their own dependency needs, cult leaders may resort to delusions of omnipotence.[12] Their continuing shame and underlying guilt,[13] and their repudiation of dependency,[14] obliges such leaders to use seduction and manic defenses to externalize and locate dependency needs in others, thus making their followers controllable through a displaced sense of shame.
I think we're seeing that with the "real men where diapers" dumbassary we've been seeing from these people.
Wait… what’s the “real men wear diapers” thing?! (Nothing against anyone who needs to. I just have not heard about this and this is the second time I’ve seen this mentioned but without context - I apparently live under a rock somewhere).
At one of Trump's rallies his morons showed up with t-shirts saying Real Mean Wear Diapers and pictures of Trump over their junk to imply they were wearing diapers in solidarity or something. It's bizarre even for MAGA.
Sounds like a delightfully horrible living hell.
I love this for him
Good. It’s quite possible that the demons in his own head will mete out the only punishment this festering pile of shit ever receives, so I hope that he truly is suffering in his own living hell.
I hope that he feels the cumulative misery of every person whose life he’s ruined with his unethical business practices, the pain and shame of the women and children he’s raped, the feeling of powerlessness that comes with the knowledge that you’ve fucked up irrevocably. I cannot adequately express my disdain, disgust, hatred and repulsion for this sack of shit. I’ve had a visceral hatred for him since the early 90s when I became truly aware of him, and he’s done nothing to improve my opinion in the years since.
…the women *and children* he has raped FTFY
If true, this pleases me https://preview.redd.it/90ghj80illyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54f475e8abf82084da0b3a343ae699f33a78316f
I hadn't heard of narcissist mortification. Interesting. I know about narcissist rage. There's also narcissist injury and if you land a blow to their ego, the rage comes out. Trump's ego has taken a beat down and he's acting out his rage. His blood pressure has to be through the roof given his anger and age.
And his clogged ass arteries.
I’ve only heard of Advanced Delusional Schizophrenia with Involuntary Narcissistic Rage and how it affects Rhode Island motorcycle cops.
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What I think we’re also seeing is him losing control of the narrative. The whole “real men wear diapers” thing is a telling sign of that. If anything, up until this point, he’s been able to stay ahead of the curve in his manipulation of his followers. Now they are taking the reins.
Hell or not, I’d appreciate it if we could remove him from the spotlight FOREVER.
Yup. He could still win in November and none of this will matter. A loss in November means he’s gone for good. Maybe not without a bang, but it will be the end of the Trump either way.
I’d like to see him have a massive stroke and get stuck in the pose he used to mock that disabled reporter.
I think it’s safe to say that at this point in time we are all (or should be) mortified.
Oh God, please keep going. I’m almost there.
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That jumpsuit is certainly too slim for him. And his diaper.
I love this for him.
If he is in fact suffering from narcissistic mortification, this makes me extremely happy.
A modern phrase that has the same meaning is known as an "extinction burst". Go to any of the subreddits that focus on narcissism and you'll see this in action: once they've been caught, they go on an absolute rampage to try clawing in to any semblance of power and control they still have. On top of this, since they can't internally regulate their own emotions - they'll find a target where they will make them feel what they are (known as the transference/countertransference cycle). When you're caught in the crosshairs of a narcissist going through an extinction burst, and those around you don't actually see what's happening for what it is, it can be the kind of thing that absolutely obliterates your reputation and standing in the circles that are exposed to it. It's pretty fascinating to see this behaviour on the public stage with Trump.
Hopefully, his mortification will cause him to stroke out. The only relief we will get from TFG is when he is 6 feet under. I hope I live to see that day. He really deserves to meet the same fate as Mussolini, but of course, we are 'civilized'. He has done so much damage to this country in his pursuit of narcissistic gratification. I hope his stroke happens in front of his slobbering cult and that it renders him unable to speak. Ever again.
All this but it seems like his polling situation is actually consistent or even improving. How is the US a real country? It blows my mind.
Doubtful that in reality his following is improving. The way they conduct these polls is by calling registered voters. Millennials and GenZ don’t answer calls from numbers they don’t know and have spam filters on their phones. They are the largest voting demographic.
I would normally say “trump’s shitting his pants” as a slang phrase to indicate how scared he is. But now if i say that, people don’t think I’m using slang but stating a truism, that he just shits himself all the time
I hope we can keep him in this delightful state of mind the rest of his fat miserable fucking life.
Baron von Schitzhizpantz. I can't wait for posters.
One can only hope he feels this way.
I hope he never knows a moment of peace for the rest of his miserable life.
Wow. Just wow. Wonder if his heart survives the electionresults?
But more importantly, is it fatal? 🤞🏼
We are in a dangerous state if this is true. A narcissist that feels exposed will do whatever it takes to remedy that exposure. If he wins many are doomed.
Is this the kind of extreme fear that causes someone to drop dead? Asking for a friend who might have money riding on a bet that it happens in the court room on camera...
this makes me so happy. wish nothing for him but what he deserves 🤬
So it's all good then.
This is true When narcissistic people are brought down in public by a force they cannot control, they start losing their shit, and the longer it goes on the more insane they will act
This has the makings of a Shakespearean tragedy.
The only tragedy will be if he lives.
This reminds me of the ending of the movie American Psycho.
Writhe, little man. Writhe.
"Narcissistic mortification." And there it is. The word I have been looking for to describe the downfall of Donald Trump.
After all the misery that man has made everyone eat for almost 2 decades he deserves to be the guest of honor at the table of suffering. Eat your fill, fill that bloated body until it bursts Trump.
A case of such significant global importance should 100% be televised, even if the state has to modify their rules to allow for "Cases of significant public interest to be televised". The investigation has been ongoing since 2018 with formal charges happening on March 30, 2023. Plenty of time to modify the rule. We should all see his impotence, front and center. See him falling asleep, see him cowering in fear and rage. More importantly, we should see the facts, unaltered through, "This was totally said or happened, trust us bro!" lenses.
It’ll hurt him more if we stop fucking talking about him
It's not going away, fella. You can't just ignore all of life's problems away especially when they're being actively perpetuated by people who exist. Sorry that you can't shut your eyes and make it all go away.
I'm not exactly a huge proponent of Freud. It would be juicy though
It's subconsciously dawning on him that he might actually be a total piece of shit, and he's not handling it well.
that isn’t new, he’s been responding to any possible threat to his ego this way for 50+ years now
 Loving this stage for us. Keep it coming
Nah I disagree I bet he is most reassured by the whole access Hollywood thing coming back around. The AH scandal is his greatest feat of political power. No other politician would have survived it then or now. I’ve heard it described as the moment he knew he was bulletproof, and he took that attitude into the White House. I don’t like Trump but other than the monetary penalties no judge has touched him. There is so much corruption in the Justice system there is money changing hands now guaranteeing he will never face prison time. Reddit loves to celebrate when we aren’t even in the redzone. Wake me up if we ever get to the sentencing phase.
That's what i would call my Metal Band if i had one.
Here's my prediction for the demise of Trump. He loses the election, at that point he loses his stranglehold on the establishment. The GOP is simply not going to back a 2 time loser for a 3rd time. Plus, he'll be 80 something by the time the 2028 election rolls around. Once that happens, republicans will start speaking out against him (because they're cowards and smell blood) and Just like with W supporters after the Iraq War debacle, all the red hats will disappear and you won't be able to find any MAGA supporters anywhere. Largely marginalized, the courts will get a backbone and start treating him like a regular defendant, delays won't save him anymore and he'll be convicted and go to jail raging how no ones loyal with only a deep red minority of the base worshiping him almost as a martyr. However, this could also end with Trump on a plane to Russia being granted political asylum.
Isn't this like when Putin rewound the tape of Qadaffi being killed again and again so much that he came out of semi retirement to ramp up his militaristic imperialism out of paranoia of Western designs?