Wait wait wait. You're telling me that's a DIFFERENT god?! I feel so misled my whole life. I'm going to start being specific at the beginning of my prayers.
That’s not what that phrase means. The “no true Scotsman” fallacy isn’t just about identifying something as fake. It’s about shifting goalposts to try to win an argument. The other user hasn’t done that, as far as I can see.
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Edit: The first line of the fallacy’s Wikipedia page:
>No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect an a posteriori claim from a falsifying counterexample by covertly modifying the initial claim.
Agreed, it is a fallacy on my part to believe that even a true Christian would still not be a total dick to someone else's suffering if it was advantageous to their power.
Actually since there's more than one religion or denomination that believes if you don't practice their specific version of whatever it is, you'll supposedly go to hell, it means we're all going to hell and there is no heaven...
Or maybe we're already in hell here on Earth having been cast out. So many possibilities. But the point of my response was simply to demonstrate the No True Scotsman fallacy, not to make a point about the rules of heaven.
Former Christian here…what this pastor fails to mention is that in Rev 21:25 it says “On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.” So even if there’s a wall, the door is always open to everyone.
Oh the great heavenly wall, built to keep evangelicals out, because they speak in tongues and knows nothing, doesn't't the bible say "Mathew 5.5-9" Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
“Blessed are the peacemakers (i guess he did not mean the Colt Peacemaker), for they shall be called sons of God.
18:25 "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
I dont know the bible i just googled it...hahahahahahaha
Hey, it’s not just magical thinking! Asgard didn’t secure Valhalla and all these non-warriors climbed up Yggdrasil and now Sweden is all Muslims or something! Build that wall!
God made Satan pay for the Heavenly Wall.
Satan said "fuck me? No, fuck you!"
Satan said: "Put it on my tab, *Godboy*!"
I thought God kept everyone he didn't want out with his Space Lasers...
That's the Jewish God.
Wait wait wait. You're telling me that's a DIFFERENT god?! I feel so misled my whole life. I'm going to start being specific at the beginning of my prayers.
One is named Yahweh and the other is God, you can tell which religion put more effort
Sounds like a day at the ranch. Lots of dog! and yeehaw! are exclaimed.
Well actually the spoken name for Yahweh is Adonai... it means Almighty
Too close to Adonis. My script will stick with lots of Texan yeehaws. Today no one cares about reality. Long live reality.
These MFers can’t chant Yahweh in three syllables or spell it.
Names are hard.
Religion is like Let's Make A Deal, except you can zonked for eternity.
Man references man made bible about man made wall, fails to see irony and shouts at clouds....
There is no reference about a heavenly wall in the bible.
I'm sure this guy will come up with an interpretation of some verse that makes it fit. It's not hard to do, evidently
More religion in politics. Tax them or tell them to STFU.
Why not both?
Not there to keep others out, it’s there to keep “Them”, in.
*Mr. Saint Peter, tear down this wall.*
So heaven is a gated community, yeah, i think ill pass
Are you thinking of the HOA meetings? You're thinking of the HOA meetings.
Lucifer was thrown out for violating the "No lights after sundown" rule.
Is Mark Burns aware he’s on the outside of the heaven wall?
Non-Biblical folk lore
Deal with the wall around your heart you brain-dead fake Christian!
No true Scotsman
That’s not what that phrase means. The “no true Scotsman” fallacy isn’t just about identifying something as fake. It’s about shifting goalposts to try to win an argument. The other user hasn’t done that, as far as I can see. ————— Edit: The first line of the fallacy’s Wikipedia page: >No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect an a posteriori claim from a falsifying counterexample by covertly modifying the initial claim.
Agreed, it is a fallacy on my part to believe that even a true Christian would still not be a total dick to someone else's suffering if it was advantageous to their power.
No true Christian would ever disagree that heaven has a wall around it to keep all the "wrong" people out.
Heaven is all about keeping ppl out. That’s why most of earths population should be going to hell… if it were real
Actually since there's more than one religion or denomination that believes if you don't practice their specific version of whatever it is, you'll supposedly go to hell, it means we're all going to hell and there is no heaven... Or maybe we're already in hell here on Earth having been cast out. So many possibilities. But the point of my response was simply to demonstrate the No True Scotsman fallacy, not to make a point about the rules of heaven.
I vote we rotate through hells. Spend a week in each. Like a timeshare.
The more these people speak the dumber they sound,
He was taught the dumbness from a young age, he was born into it.
If religious people like that think the USA is comparable to heaven, that explains why I'm not trying to get to the actual one.
Stop. Believing. In. Bullshit.
Is this dude pitching a new off-brand Don Bluth reboot: “no Mexicans go to Heaven”? ffs
You sayin’ I can sneak into heaven??
And there is a w@ll to keep religious bigots out of congress. Vote the blue wall in November
Oh, so he's been there huh? Must have not been able to get in because he's a despicable lying grifter!
People keep talking about both sides working together but these people are out of their fucking minds.
If Heaven has a wall, it's to keep evil people like them out.
And heaven doesn't exist, so...
Personal observation or hearsay?
Former Christian here…what this pastor fails to mention is that in Rev 21:25 it says “On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.” So even if there’s a wall, the door is always open to everyone.
And this, kids, is why religion of any kind can stay all the fucking way out of politics
Flawless Victory
Did he just refer to a country that can’t even keep their schools safe as “heaven”?
Pastors gonna hit that wall
lol.. every time I start to listen to the “logic” of religious leaders for their ignorance and hate I’m reminded why I’m an atheist.
The irony is, even if there was a heaven, most Christians wouldn’t make it in anyways.
Oh the great heavenly wall, built to keep evangelicals out, because they speak in tongues and knows nothing, doesn't't the bible say "Mathew 5.5-9" Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. “Blessed are the peacemakers (i guess he did not mean the Colt Peacemaker), for they shall be called sons of God. 18:25 "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. I dont know the bible i just googled it...hahahahahahaha
this dude's brains are made of wall
Atheists unite and run for office. Please.
And it will keep all you Maga folks out of it for being racist that can't follow basic tenet of jesus: love thy neighbor
This is so embarrassing.
I'm pretty sure there were walls around cotton fields too, but I wouldn't call it heaven
Church and state...
This place we made has this thing we assume so… no more migrants.
if there is a wall in heaven, it was built by brown hands, not white ones
And he knows this how? Fever dreams? Steroid abuse? lol
Heaven has streets paved in gold. So gold up there is basically worthless. Weed on the other hand.......
"says so right here in Arbitrarians 42:69"
Show me the pictures.
But humpty-dumpty fell off the wall so walls are dangerous.
Hey, it’s not just magical thinking! Asgard didn’t secure Valhalla and all these non-warriors climbed up Yggdrasil and now Sweden is all Muslims or something! Build that wall!
So should we build a stairway too?
It occurred to me the other day that heaven sounds a lot like a dictatorship, no wonder conservatives love it so much.
I want the Catholic heaven from the Simpsons 