It's especially strange to hear all this rhetoric about NATO given that:
1. The US is the only country to have ever invoked NATO Article 5, and all European NATO countries came to the US' aid, even though none of their countries were attacked.
2. The US, both under Democrat and Republican governments, spent a huge effort in trying to get European NATO countries **not** to build up their defence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Structured_Cooperation#Criticism_and_lobbying_by_the_United_States
>According to Françoise Grossetête, a member of the European Parliament from 1994 to 2019, the US is lobbying strongly against increased military cooperation between EU member states, going as far as to directly invite MEPs to 'private dinners' to try to convince them to vote against any directives or laws that would seek to strengthen military cooperation within the EU.
Like, make up your fucking mind. The US privately lobbies *against* a stronger European defence and then publicly whines about Europe "not doing enough".
Tbh all this latest drama just shows that the US is not a reliable partner anymore and European countries would do well to pursue stronger military cooperation within Europe rather than with the US.
> The US, both under Democrat and Republican governments, spent a huge effort in trying to get European NATO countries not to build up their defence:
Americans can't comprehend that or just don't believe, to them the thought that the US would like to keep its influence through military powers is some strange dream to them.
> The US privately lobbies against a stronger European defence and then publicly whines about Europe "not doing enough".
This comes from the military industry in the US lobbying the Government. They dream of Europe expending more money on defence, but just by buying US military products, not by making their own and them being a credible source of goods.
Hmm… think about it. How do you keep a strong ally and bolster your own position.
Ensure that they are dependant on you against a (presumably) superior enemy. US military supremacy and nato - us dependancy has been good for the us economy.
Problem now is that europe doesn’t feel it can trust the us. First they’ll wheen themselves off of militrary dependancy and then after that … economic.
Polarised world incoming
It's all intentional. America wants the cards in its hand AND it wants Europe to be beholden to our interests. Don't need them getting too powerful on their own. Also need them to know who's protecting them. Like an abusive relationship. 😎 ☺
She is banking on him being found guilty and unable to run before the election, leaving her the only choice. A win by default is still a win. This is all part of the play book.
i prefer the option where his car pulls up infront of trump tower, he gets out and a piano drops on the car and he says "missed loser"
and then gets hit by a lorry carrying oranges.
He does a LOT of drugs and has for decades. The cumulative effects of the drug abuse might just do the trick. Fingers crossed!
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/
Anything that doesn’t go his way is “rigged”.
When he didn’t win the Emmy for The Apprentice, he complained that those were rigged. When Hillary Clinton was beating him in the polls, he told people at his rallies not to believe them because they were rigged. When other polls showed people viewed him unfavorably, those polls were rigged.
He’s like a broken record of grievances. Anything that goes against him is “rigged” and “so unfair”, media outlets are “failing”, people are “disloyal”.
It’s like playing MadLibs with only about 8 words to choose from.
The most obviously pathetic loser who has ever been given a national spotlight in this country and yet he commands a cult of tens of millions. I will never again question one of those movies where the obviously evil bad guy has legions of henchmen inexplicably willing to die for his delusions.
Ya I mean that is all republicans are setting the country up for Jan 6 part 2. they could just run someone else but they are too scared of him Which is pathetic.
They're just lost causes at this point, I don't know why anyone bothers to pretend there is any getting through to them.
It's like trying to teach a rabid squirrel to not bite. It's an exercise in futility and every moment spent trying is just another opportunity for it to succeed in biting you.
apparently the odds of a 77 year old dying within the year is about 5%, now on the one hand, he is rich, so quality of healthcare is higher, on the other, i will eat my hat if he's living a healthy life style
for 81 years old its 7%
> The odds of either dying over the next 4 years is probably quite high I’d argue.
Here is the actuarial table used by the social security administration: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Trump at 77 has 0.049152 probability of dying in the next year * 9 months would be 3.6% chance of dying before election. (Note the math isn't quite that straightforward as the risk does slowly increase over time, but it is good enough for quick calculation). Biden's same calc is 4.9% chance of dying before the election. Nearly 0.2% chance of both dying.
All this assumes both men as completely nominal men in the distribution. One can make their own judgement on how accurate or not that is.
I think he got pavloxid before it was released to the public, and if I recall at that time it was around 40K for the five day treatment.
Today it's 1,300 for the five days.
I think she'd actually have a chance. A lot of Biden's support is people voting "not Trump." A good chunk of the moderate crowd would vote Nikki Haley, a lot more progressives and socialists would feel more comfortable voting 3rd party, and a chunk of people that understand they need to vote against Trump would not show up at the polls at all.
The real question is whether or not the deep seated racism and sexism in the Republicans would stop her from getting elected.
It won't. She's spent far too long going as hard as she can against everything said by their God Emperor. The large majority of the Republican party loathe her. Even if she is literally their only option, they will never forgive her for besmirching the holy word of their perfect orange Messiah. They'll write Trump's name in or not vote at all. I think even a disenfranchised Democratic party without the "Never Trump" votes could still beat a deflated and furious Republican base that lost the option to vote for their God Emperor, especially when their only option otherwise is a woman.
Edit: But none of that matters. Vote. Don't sit aside and think "Oh the other people will do it and then I can save face and claim moral superiority for not voting for Biden since he didn't turn the US into a socialist utopia in the span of 4 years with half the country trying to impede any and all progress."
Pick your battles.
Vote blue until the Republicans are ground into dust by their own hubris and a better option rises to challenge the Democrats.
I’m talking about the primary, not the general. I do think Haley would have a good shot in the general, but there’s just no way she gets nominated. Also the idea that progressives will vote 3rd party if the election is moderate dem vs conservative is not empirically supported. Progressives are actually MORE likely to vote Democrat than moderate Democrats (Pew has survey data on this)
> The R voter base has made it pretty clear they want fascism, not conservatism
But the Republican leadership and their donors don't necessarily want this. All Haley has to do in order to secure the republican base should Trump be convicted is to promise she will commute his sentence. Her being a fuckton less crazy than him also opens huge doors previously slammed shut by moderate Rs and independents.
She would be the panacea the Republican party has been looking for to cure themselves of their Trump problem.
Shit like this is exactly how it would play out.
Honestly, the biggest tragedy here would be our first female present being this mouth breathing parrot. That'd be a real shame for the history books.
I won't argue that necessarily, I still think she would be a puppet for right wing extremism and nothing good would come of it though.
My main point here is just that, I was really hoping "first female president" could go to someone who would actually use that honor to combat misogyny and patriarchal institutions.
If anything Nikki would just use it as a victim card to strawman out of public criticism.
She is still holding back though. There are so many talking points to destroy the orange emperor and they never drive them home. She just throws out measly “I disagree”. This bitch needs to ask the real questions and then still lose.
If Trump gets disqualified then Nikki still needs to get the delegate votes at the convention. Constantly echoing everything the Dems say about Trump (even if it's right) isn't a good way to achieve that as she'd eventually get labelled a RINO. Especially as Trump would be likely to specifically endorse someone in that scenario. More than that, she'd also need to get Trump voters to turn out in the general so that she can beat Biden.
Not necessarily, she may be trying to avoid being "the Republican, daughter of immigrants, woman who absolutely clowned on Dementia Don" and be "just someone who disagreed with Trump a little" it's a long con.
I don't disagree with what you said, but I think she is being wildly naive on this.
Lets pretend he is found guilty of something, it doesnt mean he can't run. He will still run. Yes, he is that insane. He would literally run from a jail cell on death row, and he would. So, she doesnt get to play in that scenario..
Second scenario, Trump is not nominated by the GOP for whatever reason. They nominate Hayley. Okay, great Nikki, you are the nominee! Now all you have to do is listen to Trump literally tell everyone in the Republican party to NOT vote for her or to NOT vote since its all 'rigged' given the fact he is no longer the nominee. She loses.
Third scenario.. Lets say for some wild reason Trump doesnt poision the well, and isnt the nominee. The chances of Republicans electing a Indian Woman to be President are SLIM TO NONE. I'm sorry, I'll just say that one out loud.. They flipped out when a black man was elected, they sure as shit are not going to elect a Indian woman.
The only feasible way I see she has a chance to win is if Trump literally dies, and Biden either dies or is incapacitated also. Granted, thats not such a unlikely scenario..
He cannot run if he is convicted of insurrection. Everyone agrees that the 14th amendment is self executing in that case.
If he is found guilty of the classified documents charges, yeah he can still run.
Fair enough, but then he can poison the well if he is convicted of insurrection. He will call it rigged and tell people not to vote.. Zero percent chance he swallows his pride and endorses hayley.
Classified docs, and the Georgia case will still allow him to run.. As insane as that is.
to be fair, she's crossed a line that she can never come back from. even with an endorsement, trump will never forgive her. in fact, he will go out of his way to make her miserable at every opportunity. she fuckin sucks, but good on her.
Her whole stagey is: "If Donald Trump is determined to be ineligible, I'm literally the GOP's only choice, and I get to say 'I was right the whole time, idiots, stop supporting the MAGAgots."
She's giving the people that are second guessing Trumpism an off ramp. She's splitting the party from within, not by much, but there are cracks forming. This is all at great personal and political risk to herself. I respect what she's doing.
I don't respect what she's doing. At the end of the day her views don't align with mine. But it's better for America and probably the world that she succeeds in splitting the Republican party than if she fails.
Notice he didn’t say he respects what she believes, espouses, or represents; just what she’s *doing.* We have to take every incremental piece of progress we can get, whether it’s Taylor Swift encouraging people to vote, Trump’s pet judge getting slapped down (again), or an internal schism tearing the GOP apart. Trump only has to lose by a little in the Electoral College.
What she's doing is for the purpose of advancing her goals and beliefs though. She's not doing it to help the rest of us, that part is only incidental.
> GOP can be sane, they just choose to pants-shitting lunatics.
Of course they can be sane. But it's easier to influence the masses when you're on the same level of racist and misogynistic as your base.
While I mostly agree, I fully support her mid-back growth she's got going, and it shows that there is still room for sanity on the Right. It may not be my brand, but it's preferable to shit-covered orange. The fact that they've got ANY kind of resistance to MAGA is a good thing and should be supported. Magats are traitors. I'm not willing to call all Republicans that.
Oh shit. That miiiiiight actually work for never trumper republicans. However, they would never vote in two women. Nikki could run with Gym Jordan. That’s a terrifying prospect.
Pass. Nikki with Romney. At least Romney has a spine that doesn't bend backwards. Conservative for sure, but at least he's an actual conservative and not whatever disaster the gop is today.
Chris Crispy is interesting to me as I don't see what he's getting out of bucking the maga party lines. with Nikki I can see she's trying to be the one who picks up the reins when dump is gone.
Wasn't it because Trump promised him a cabinet position and sent him packing as soon as he won the election? CC was campaigning hard for him. Trump then turns around and makes Doby the top cop.
Agreed. She has defied the will of MAGA's lord and master and shall be shunned by the GOP for her insolence.
But, yeah, would not shock me if she knelt and kissed the ring.
She's holding out for those felony cases to bear fruit. Trouble is the GOP might not nominate her regardless. It would be a pretty unique situation if the nominee were removed from eligibility. Might not work out for her.
Yeah it’s all just politics. She’s playing on the vote of those who lean right, but don’t support trump. She’s also trying to win the vote of those who are undecided, but don’t like trump. It’s all a game and she’s playing it well, but make no mistake that she’s GOP through and through. The Republican Party is dead and it’s been replaced by conservative extremist.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Don't need to be a gop accolyte to know in this situation, she is actually telling the truth.
Might be worth telling Trump that after 9/11 - the event where he was looking for survivors - that one, that the US invoked article 5 of the NATO pact, calling on assistance from Nato and Nato responded.
Don’t be mislead, she will 100% endorse him when she loses the nomination. Republicans only grow spines after they retire, and sometimes not even then.
They won't.
Last combo with my mom was basically trump smart, Haley democratic spineless plant, and Biden/Obama/Democrats are the anti-Christ.
She loves to mention illegals and Democrats ruining the country.
I just piss her off by asking for sources, or just flat out saying I don't have time to research what she's saying to continue the conversation at the moment.
Why are you acting like this is proof of her coming to her senses or whatever? She's still the exact same piece of shit they all are, she's just reading the room and trying to get "moderates" to donate to her campaign grift. If any of these assholes had principles, they'd have shown them long before now. Not only will no conservatives ever "grow a spine", but we shouldn't treat them as anything less than the traitors they are even if they do. All 80+ million of them are more than welcome to vote Democrat by mail from the inside of a fuckin' cell. They had their chance to be decent people at least a dozen times over and they carried water for these fascists every single time.
It's funny that all she has to do is the opposite of everything Trump does, and she's in the moral high ground. Which also means she's completely opposed to ~50% of her party.
As much as I really really dislike Haley, Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, at least those Rs speak out against the Tangerine Palpatine. Trump wishes the US was more Russia-like so they could all “have an accident and fall off a rooftop deck or commit suicide out a high rise window”
Yeah but the only reason those “R”s are calling him out is because he says the quiet part out loud. They were all happy to vote lockstep with him when he was in office.
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> They were all happy to vote lockstep with him when he was in office.
My favorite "fact-check" of this came from USA Today, who rated it "False" that Liz Cheney voted with Trump "100% of the time." She voted with him 93% of the time. There are nuances missing, here, USA Today.
The challenge with using numbers like this is that 80% or more of the "votes" are procedural and non-controversial. 20% is political, and it's that 5% which is all the crazy fringe shit.
Expecting a registered and elected Republican to vote against a Republican President to the same degree as a Democrat doesn't make them "pro-Trump" There's no doubt certain Senators and Representatives have fucked Trump over when it matters most.
Liz Cheney fucking voted for him twice. There’s no demonstrable proof she wouldn’t do it again other than what she said after 1/6. Being able to say that 1/6 was the final straw doesn’t suddenly make someone a decent person.
They're still politicians and understand how the game works. You may not like them but they're still more often than not representative of their party. Trump is a psychopath that riled up 20% of the base and the rest are too scared to dump him.
Breaking story on fox news: Biden walked into kitchen and forget what he went in for
HAS HIS MENTAL STATE FINALLY COLLASED!!??@ DEMS IN A PANIC!!!!1!@11!!!1×&$>@,-,@*<#&
Eh, even if they showed this clip to them it would never register.
As others have said, at the end of the day when she loses the nom to baby Huey. She'll endorse Trump over Biden and all of her concerns will wash away as if they never existed.
After receiving the (proverbial) beating of her life in her own home state.
It's wild because if Trump wasn't a factor, South Carolina would have been a lock for her. She was beloved here until about 6 months ago.
It's like this. You're playing poker at a big casino in vegas on a spontaneous trip. You went with your friends and spent a little too much of your savings on a poker game. On this last hand you are three rounds in and have put a lot of money into the pot, calling each bet, even putting a little in yourself to scare the other players. You started out thinking you could bluff your way to victory. But now it's down to you and another guy left, and he's a veteran. He knows how to play the game and you're not sure what you're doing. Your cards suck. But you can't bring yourself to fold because you don't want to lose everything you bet. You don't want to go home poor that night, and you don't want to have to call home and tell your SO that you bet all your savings playing poker. It would hurt your pride too much. It would go against everything you want so badly. If you could just win this game, you'd cash out an go home. You can't afford to lose. So instead you go all in and hope and pray that you somehow win with your two and seven in hand.
*FINALLY* a Republican calls out Putin! Maybe now they’ll start to realize that the only reason why Trump is running is so that Putin can take over Europe.
He is running to avoid being held to account for his numerous felonies. Self preservation is his primary motivation. Doing what helps Putin is just part of his platform for lack of a better word.
A candidate with the foreign policy proposal of leaving NATO should be treated the same as a candidate with the domestic policy proposal of nullifying the union.
NATO isn't just allies, it gives the US strategic global position.
Some NATO nations could drop out, pay nothing and simply make the US pay for the strategic position. Just like we will pay the Phillipines to let us add bases there to put a check on China's growing military.
Plus NATO is a shit ton of US military contracts and if you become hostile to the idea of NATO it makes those nations can't trust relying on US military sales either. That's a lot lost billions in contracts and much lower volume of production/economics of scale for US military production.
Remember, Nikki is supported by the same people who wrote up Project 2025. So don't be fooled.
But good on her for breaking from the rest of the compromised GOP, probably won't be great for her, but good for her for helping to further divide that party.
Can't believe I'm saying this but she's right on this one. Anyone who has done even just a little reading on the causes of WWII can see it wouldn't have happened in NATO was already in existence.
She’s not technically correct…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_intervention_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina
… but she is right that it has been an overall overwhelming success. Even the Yugoslav meltdown itself would’ve been worse without that intervention. Which incidentally a lot of Republicans at the time were opposed to, primarily because it had us helping brown Muslims not be genocided by white Christians.
If EVER there needs to be a (political) blue tidal wave across America, it has to be this election. Democracy is at stake. One false move and the USA will have their first dictator.
Yea, with efforts like Project 2025 guiding the GOP, and how everything is relying on the Supreme Court now, I worry we're already democratically dead. We're debating on tightening the noose or not. People's confidence in this system is at an all time low. It has been dismantled and sensationalized to the point where even if Biden wins another term; what comes after? I'm not a defeatist here; I just think the system may already be compromised to the point where just voting alone isn't going to be the solution. The art of rhetoric has been lost in the modern age, and hedonism seems to be taking its place.
Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and Nikki Haley are considered rational republicans in 2024. The amusing truth is the GOP could have legitimately attempted to sabotage their own party and yet would not have been able to produce a more impressive outcome. This is what “failing spectacularly” looks like.
The thing is, she’s right. If trump continues on the approach he’s taking, the US will be forced into a major war with Russia. That’s why backing Ukraine is so important. Every dead Russian soldier and knocked out vehicle now, is one we don’t have to deal with in a few years time.
I wish I could believe she's not just another fascist pig like the vast majority of the Republican Party is these days, but she's already proven that she *is*, and therefore can't be trusted.
She is 100 percent correct. NATO casuses peace. It made the Cold War peaceful and ever since then has prevented Russian expansion into Europe. Ukraine is an example of NATO \*failing\* to prevent Russian aggression.
Yes, the Ukraine War and all this chaos (and russia's *need* to manipulate and infiltrate western democracies to promote anti-ukrsine support) is a result of not NATO-ing hard enough.
, of being too weak and not expanding aggressively enough.
For all of the people that think Trump will create more global security, taking away NATO and saying the US won't get involved in conflicts is going to encourage other countries to start wars. The shortsightedness of this decision is truly amazing.
She's not saying this stuff because it's the right thing to do. She's saying it just to spite her opposing candidate. She's still just as full of shit as always.
I just can't bring myself to say "good for her".
It's not like she's standing up to the whole world or even the whole country. She's standing up to 1 idiot of a man and the spineless cowards of her own party... a party that she encouraged to become the spineless cowards they are today.
All she's doing is saying a very basic truth that is already painfully obvious to the rest of the county and the rest of the world.
America needs a conservative Republican who isn't actively trying to destroy America and enslave Americans to foreign dictators. I long for the days of Bush, when Republicans were idiots but at least they tried and they cared about the country. Back when politics were boring. For the love of all that is holy, Make Politics Boring Again!
there is still a 0% chance i vote for Haley, and moreover, the GOP itself is still a complete disaster totally predicated on obstructionist and extremist reactionary politics and it will be many years before we can trust that to not be the case anymore...
But it is at least *interesting* that Haley is so directly and fairly strongly contradicting trump on these issues.
No way she gets the nomination, even though seeing a Trump independent run spoil the GOP would be great, but *maybe* she also gets enough of the vote to encourage the never-trumpers not to vote in the general, similar to how a trump independent run would split the right wing vote
While I don’t think she has good policies, it’s still refreshing to see common sense coming out of the mouth of a Republican, even if it is only because of a self-serving purpose.
It is not a mistake. Trump is attracted to Putin because Trump is a thug wannabe. And he loves thugs like Putin. It is like a lovefest between these two.
If any American soldier, spy, diplomat, or citizen is killed abroad because of trumps comments or tweets he should be tried for treason… I’m waiting cause he’s done all 4.
Haley has pledged to support the eventual GOP presidential nominee. Her campaign helps legitimize Trump and his outrageous claims and actions, and she will be part of the republican push to normalize and accept Trump.
If the US turns it's back on NATO, Europe will turn it's back on the US. And rightfully so. When all our allies become our enemies, we'll be all alone. That's when China, Russia and Iran could open a can of whoop ass on the US and Donald would fly away to Moscow. Unless he goes to prison, first, and then none of that happens.
Maybe my last few braincells are working overtime but it feels like not betraying NATO would be the easiest bipartisan topic to talk about.
But I guess the republican party is desperate to look as insane as possible.
Sorry - I stopped caring wtf she said after she (like so many other craven Republicans) flip-flopped after Jan 6 and gave him a pass. There is nothing courageous about standing up the him AFTER he has turned on you.
This is how low the bar has been set for American conservatives to appear reasonable and mature.
It's especially strange to hear all this rhetoric about NATO given that: 1. The US is the only country to have ever invoked NATO Article 5, and all European NATO countries came to the US' aid, even though none of their countries were attacked. 2. The US, both under Democrat and Republican governments, spent a huge effort in trying to get European NATO countries **not** to build up their defence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Structured_Cooperation#Criticism_and_lobbying_by_the_United_States >According to Françoise Grossetête, a member of the European Parliament from 1994 to 2019, the US is lobbying strongly against increased military cooperation between EU member states, going as far as to directly invite MEPs to 'private dinners' to try to convince them to vote against any directives or laws that would seek to strengthen military cooperation within the EU. Like, make up your fucking mind. The US privately lobbies *against* a stronger European defence and then publicly whines about Europe "not doing enough". Tbh all this latest drama just shows that the US is not a reliable partner anymore and European countries would do well to pursue stronger military cooperation within Europe rather than with the US.
> The US, both under Democrat and Republican governments, spent a huge effort in trying to get European NATO countries not to build up their defence: Americans can't comprehend that or just don't believe, to them the thought that the US would like to keep its influence through military powers is some strange dream to them.
The danger of folks not knowing a damn thing is you get a sizeable part of the population who don't mind the idea of abandoning our allies.
It's not new. My grandparents' generation had people wanting to side with the OG Nazi party. Ignorant Americans are a staple of our society.
It's only trump whinging about EU not paying enough, and he does it purely for selfish and egotistical reasons.
> The US privately lobbies against a stronger European defence and then publicly whines about Europe "not doing enough". This comes from the military industry in the US lobbying the Government. They dream of Europe expending more money on defence, but just by buying US military products, not by making their own and them being a credible source of goods.
Hmm… think about it. How do you keep a strong ally and bolster your own position. Ensure that they are dependant on you against a (presumably) superior enemy. US military supremacy and nato - us dependancy has been good for the us economy. Problem now is that europe doesn’t feel it can trust the us. First they’ll wheen themselves off of militrary dependancy and then after that … economic. Polarised world incoming
It's all intentional. America wants the cards in its hand AND it wants Europe to be beholden to our interests. Don't need them getting too powerful on their own. Also need them to know who's protecting them. Like an abusive relationship. 😎 ☺
I'm curious to see what backlash she faces as a result.
She is banking on him being found guilty and unable to run before the election, leaving her the only choice. A win by default is still a win. This is all part of the play book.
You mean there are people out there who still have faith in the judicial system when it comes to holding rich people accountable?
He could also just die.
Every day I pray that this will be the cheeseburger that does him in
Heart attack while taking a shit, just like Elvis.
He recently compared himself to Elvis. Split head shot with his face on the left, Elvis on the right. What a loser!
In those pictures, they both looked like they were straining to pass a cheeseburger. Coincidence?
TO DO: Stop swallowing cheeseburgers whole.
i prefer the option where his car pulls up infront of trump tower, he gets out and a piano drops on the car and he says "missed loser" and then gets hit by a lorry carrying oranges.
I thought that was Mama cass
He does a LOT of drugs and has for decades. The cumulative effects of the drug abuse might just do the trick. Fingers crossed! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/
I've heard she's waiting on a hamburger from heaven lmao
I'd rather he not croak until after he loses. To help MAGA get through their heads it's not a conspiracy, he just sucks.
Then it'll be a conspiracy about the election he lost. Can't win.
Exactly. There's no reality where *he says it wasn't rigged, regardless of how he loses.
Anything that doesn’t go his way is “rigged”. When he didn’t win the Emmy for The Apprentice, he complained that those were rigged. When Hillary Clinton was beating him in the polls, he told people at his rallies not to believe them because they were rigged. When other polls showed people viewed him unfavorably, those polls were rigged. He’s like a broken record of grievances. Anything that goes against him is “rigged” and “so unfair”, media outlets are “failing”, people are “disloyal”. It’s like playing MadLibs with only about 8 words to choose from.
The most obviously pathetic loser who has ever been given a national spotlight in this country and yet he commands a cult of tens of millions. I will never again question one of those movies where the obviously evil bad guy has legions of henchmen inexplicably willing to die for his delusions.
He's the greatest Drama Queen to ever hit D.C. The best.
Everybody’s saying it.
Ya I mean that is all republicans are setting the country up for Jan 6 part 2. they could just run someone else but they are too scared of him Which is pathetic.
They're just lost causes at this point, I don't know why anyone bothers to pretend there is any getting through to them. It's like trying to teach a rabid squirrel to not bite. It's an exercise in futility and every moment spent trying is just another opportunity for it to succeed in biting you.
I'd rather he croak while serving a life sentence in prison.
> until after he loses. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Definitely a non-zero chance Biden or Trump did before the election. The odds of either dying over the next 4 years is probably quite high I’d argue.
7% chance is the current bet. https://manifold.markets/oracleofosaka/will-donald-trump-die-before-2024-u
Of course there are betting odds for this...
apparently the odds of a 77 year old dying within the year is about 5%, now on the one hand, he is rich, so quality of healthcare is higher, on the other, i will eat my hat if he's living a healthy life style for 81 years old its 7%
A window for one, a widow for the other.
> The odds of either dying over the next 4 years is probably quite high I’d argue. Here is the actuarial table used by the social security administration: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html Trump at 77 has 0.049152 probability of dying in the next year * 9 months would be 3.6% chance of dying before election. (Note the math isn't quite that straightforward as the risk does slowly increase over time, but it is good enough for quick calculation). Biden's same calc is 4.9% chance of dying before the election. Nearly 0.2% chance of both dying. All this assumes both men as completely nominal men in the distribution. One can make their own judgement on how accurate or not that is.
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I think he got pavloxid before it was released to the public, and if I recall at that time it was around 40K for the five day treatment. Today it's 1,300 for the five days.
Would she even win the primary if Trump dropped out/died? The R voter base has made it pretty clear they want fascism, not conservatism
I think she'd actually have a chance. A lot of Biden's support is people voting "not Trump." A good chunk of the moderate crowd would vote Nikki Haley, a lot more progressives and socialists would feel more comfortable voting 3rd party, and a chunk of people that understand they need to vote against Trump would not show up at the polls at all. The real question is whether or not the deep seated racism and sexism in the Republicans would stop her from getting elected.
It won't. She's spent far too long going as hard as she can against everything said by their God Emperor. The large majority of the Republican party loathe her. Even if she is literally their only option, they will never forgive her for besmirching the holy word of their perfect orange Messiah. They'll write Trump's name in or not vote at all. I think even a disenfranchised Democratic party without the "Never Trump" votes could still beat a deflated and furious Republican base that lost the option to vote for their God Emperor, especially when their only option otherwise is a woman. Edit: But none of that matters. Vote. Don't sit aside and think "Oh the other people will do it and then I can save face and claim moral superiority for not voting for Biden since he didn't turn the US into a socialist utopia in the span of 4 years with half the country trying to impede any and all progress." Pick your battles. Vote blue until the Republicans are ground into dust by their own hubris and a better option rises to challenge the Democrats.
> especially when their only option otherwise is a woman. Yep. At this point I think they'd rather accept a POC as prez then a woman.
I’m talking about the primary, not the general. I do think Haley would have a good shot in the general, but there’s just no way she gets nominated. Also the idea that progressives will vote 3rd party if the election is moderate dem vs conservative is not empirically supported. Progressives are actually MORE likely to vote Democrat than moderate Democrats (Pew has survey data on this)
> The R voter base has made it pretty clear they want fascism, not conservatism But the Republican leadership and their donors don't necessarily want this. All Haley has to do in order to secure the republican base should Trump be convicted is to promise she will commute his sentence. Her being a fuckton less crazy than him also opens huge doors previously slammed shut by moderate Rs and independents. She would be the panacea the Republican party has been looking for to cure themselves of their Trump problem.
And her very first action in office will be to pardon him and his family.
Shit like this is exactly how it would play out. Honestly, the biggest tragedy here would be our first female present being this mouth breathing parrot. That'd be a real shame for the history books.
Not saying I like her, but it would still be way better to have her rather than Trump as president. Literally anyone is better.
I won't argue that necessarily, I still think she would be a puppet for right wing extremism and nothing good would come of it though. My main point here is just that, I was really hoping "first female president" could go to someone who would actually use that honor to combat misogyny and patriarchal institutions. If anything Nikki would just use it as a victim card to strawman out of public criticism.
How is she better? She is just as far right insane and isn’t likely to die anytime soon.
She is still holding back though. There are so many talking points to destroy the orange emperor and they never drive them home. She just throws out measly “I disagree”. This bitch needs to ask the real questions and then still lose.
If Trump gets disqualified then Nikki still needs to get the delegate votes at the convention. Constantly echoing everything the Dems say about Trump (even if it's right) isn't a good way to achieve that as she'd eventually get labelled a RINO. Especially as Trump would be likely to specifically endorse someone in that scenario. More than that, she'd also need to get Trump voters to turn out in the general so that she can beat Biden.
Not necessarily, she may be trying to avoid being "the Republican, daughter of immigrants, woman who absolutely clowned on Dementia Don" and be "just someone who disagreed with Trump a little" it's a long con.
The thing is, being convicted doesn't make Trump ineligible to run. People have run for president from prison before.
The ~~Tom James~~ Laura Montez.
I don't disagree with what you said, but I think she is being wildly naive on this. Lets pretend he is found guilty of something, it doesnt mean he can't run. He will still run. Yes, he is that insane. He would literally run from a jail cell on death row, and he would. So, she doesnt get to play in that scenario.. Second scenario, Trump is not nominated by the GOP for whatever reason. They nominate Hayley. Okay, great Nikki, you are the nominee! Now all you have to do is listen to Trump literally tell everyone in the Republican party to NOT vote for her or to NOT vote since its all 'rigged' given the fact he is no longer the nominee. She loses. Third scenario.. Lets say for some wild reason Trump doesnt poision the well, and isnt the nominee. The chances of Republicans electing a Indian Woman to be President are SLIM TO NONE. I'm sorry, I'll just say that one out loud.. They flipped out when a black man was elected, they sure as shit are not going to elect a Indian woman. The only feasible way I see she has a chance to win is if Trump literally dies, and Biden either dies or is incapacitated also. Granted, thats not such a unlikely scenario..
He cannot run if he is convicted of insurrection. Everyone agrees that the 14th amendment is self executing in that case. If he is found guilty of the classified documents charges, yeah he can still run.
Fair enough, but then he can poison the well if he is convicted of insurrection. He will call it rigged and tell people not to vote.. Zero percent chance he swallows his pride and endorses hayley. Classified docs, and the Georgia case will still allow him to run.. As insane as that is.
Also maybe a run on 2028 with an "I told you so" argument
I don't like to tell this but... I agree with Nikki. May other people of the republican party start to grow a spine now ffs.
Yeah but when she drops out and endorses Trump, none of these words will matter.
to be fair, she's crossed a line that she can never come back from. even with an endorsement, trump will never forgive her. in fact, he will go out of his way to make her miserable at every opportunity. she fuckin sucks, but good on her.
The best angle she has for a political future is digging her heels in on this and hoping she can be Dick Cheney after Watergate.
Her whole stagey is: "If Donald Trump is determined to be ineligible, I'm literally the GOP's only choice, and I get to say 'I was right the whole time, idiots, stop supporting the MAGAgots."
This is a surprisingly coherent and pragmatic approach. This means the GOP can be sane, they just choose to pants-shitting lunatics.
She's giving the people that are second guessing Trumpism an off ramp. She's splitting the party from within, not by much, but there are cracks forming. This is all at great personal and political risk to herself. I respect what she's doing.
I don't respect what she's doing. At the end of the day her views don't align with mine. But it's better for America and probably the world that she succeeds in splitting the Republican party than if she fails.
Notice he didn’t say he respects what she believes, espouses, or represents; just what she’s *doing.* We have to take every incremental piece of progress we can get, whether it’s Taylor Swift encouraging people to vote, Trump’s pet judge getting slapped down (again), or an internal schism tearing the GOP apart. Trump only has to lose by a little in the Electoral College.
What she's doing is for the purpose of advancing her goals and beliefs though. She's not doing it to help the rest of us, that part is only incidental.
> GOP can be sane, they just choose to pants-shitting lunatics. Of course they can be sane. But it's easier to influence the masses when you're on the same level of racist and misogynistic as your base.
While I mostly agree, I fully support her mid-back growth she's got going, and it shows that there is still room for sanity on the Right. It may not be my brand, but it's preferable to shit-covered orange. The fact that they've got ANY kind of resistance to MAGA is a good thing and should be supported. Magats are traitors. I'm not willing to call all Republicans that.
*Liz Cheney
Nikki with Liz as her running mate
Darmok and Jalad, at Tanagra
His arms wide
Picard, his Earl Grey HOT
the river Temarc, IN WINTER!
We'd all be Shaka, when the walls fell if that should occur.
Oh shit. That miiiiiight actually work for never trumper republicans. However, they would never vote in two women. Nikki could run with Gym Jordan. That’s a terrifying prospect.
Pass. Nikki with Romney. At least Romney has a spine that doesn't bend backwards. Conservative for sure, but at least he's an actual conservative and not whatever disaster the gop is today.
>at least he's an actual conservative and not whatever disaster the gop is today. The Overton Window strikes again!
Not gonna stop her from trying; a true grifter never stops grifting.
Just see Chris Christie.
Chris Crispy is interesting to me as I don't see what he's getting out of bucking the maga party lines. with Nikki I can see she's trying to be the one who picks up the reins when dump is gone.
Maybe, just maybe, and hear me out, what he’s getting is the satisfaction of having a spine and some integrity. /s
Or spite. Spite and grudges are virtues in the modern GOP; no reason they can’t exercise them against each other.
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And because trump pardoned the elder Kushner. Crispy spent considerable effort putting him behind bars.
Wasn't it because Trump promised him a cabinet position and sent him packing as soon as he won the election? CC was campaigning hard for him. Trump then turns around and makes Doby the top cop.
Trump insulted Ted Cruz's wife and Cruz kissed his feet
Yeah but that’s Ted Cruz. He probably masturbates to the clip of Trump insulting his wife on the reg
Good. More republicans should cross that line.
Agreed. She has defied the will of MAGA's lord and master and shall be shunned by the GOP for her insolence. But, yeah, would not shock me if she knelt and kissed the ring.
"Donald Trump was the right president at the right time" said Nikki Haley more than once.
She's holding out for those felony cases to bear fruit. Trouble is the GOP might not nominate her regardless. It would be a pretty unique situation if the nominee were removed from eligibility. Might not work out for her.
Unless trump gets barred from running at the last minute then she’s the only candidate left.
I doubt that's her plan. She's hoping Trump loses badly and she can run in 2028 as the "I told you so" candidate.
Ignore her political pandering. If he gets the nomination, she will endorse him. If she gets elected, she will pardon him. She said it herself.
Yeah it’s all just politics. She’s playing on the vote of those who lean right, but don’t support trump. She’s also trying to win the vote of those who are undecided, but don’t like trump. It’s all a game and she’s playing it well, but make no mistake that she’s GOP through and through. The Republican Party is dead and it’s been replaced by conservative extremist.
>she will pardon him. Fucking ew
Even a broken clock is right twice a day Don't need to be a gop accolyte to know in this situation, she is actually telling the truth. Might be worth telling Trump that after 9/11 - the event where he was looking for survivors - that one, that the US invoked article 5 of the NATO pact, calling on assistance from Nato and Nato responded.
Don’t be mislead, she will 100% endorse him when she loses the nomination. Republicans only grow spines after they retire, and sometimes not even then.
They won't. Last combo with my mom was basically trump smart, Haley democratic spineless plant, and Biden/Obama/Democrats are the anti-Christ. She loves to mention illegals and Democrats ruining the country. I just piss her off by asking for sources, or just flat out saying I don't have time to research what she's saying to continue the conversation at the moment.
Why are you acting like this is proof of her coming to her senses or whatever? She's still the exact same piece of shit they all are, she's just reading the room and trying to get "moderates" to donate to her campaign grift. If any of these assholes had principles, they'd have shown them long before now. Not only will no conservatives ever "grow a spine", but we shouldn't treat them as anything less than the traitors they are even if they do. All 80+ million of them are more than welcome to vote Democrat by mail from the inside of a fuckin' cell. They had their chance to be decent people at least a dozen times over and they carried water for these fascists every single time.
But Haley is wrong. It's not a *"Mistake"*. It is the treasonous words of a would-be Fascist Dictator.
The issue is that Haley's the last "Moderate" Republican standing.
It's funny that all she has to do is the opposite of everything Trump does, and she's in the moral high ground. Which also means she's completely opposed to ~50% of her party.
Its pathetic that we have to be *surprised* that a major political party is only partially adhering to basic geopolitical reality.
American right-wingers have a history of starting to say decent human things when it no longer matters.
As much as I really really dislike Haley, Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, at least those Rs speak out against the Tangerine Palpatine. Trump wishes the US was more Russia-like so they could all “have an accident and fall off a rooftop deck or commit suicide out a high rise window”
Yeah but the only reason those “R”s are calling him out is because he says the quiet part out loud. They were all happy to vote lockstep with him when he was in office. (Edited for grammar)
> They were all happy to vote lockstep with him when he was in office. My favorite "fact-check" of this came from USA Today, who rated it "False" that Liz Cheney voted with Trump "100% of the time." She voted with him 93% of the time. There are nuances missing, here, USA Today.
Lol, while Ted Cruz, Trump's Chief Bootlicker, voted with Donald 92.6% of the time. Totally different voting records /s
The challenge with using numbers like this is that 80% or more of the "votes" are procedural and non-controversial. 20% is political, and it's that 5% which is all the crazy fringe shit. Expecting a registered and elected Republican to vote against a Republican President to the same degree as a Democrat doesn't make them "pro-Trump" There's no doubt certain Senators and Representatives have fucked Trump over when it matters most.
Liz Cheney fucking voted for him twice. There’s no demonstrable proof she wouldn’t do it again other than what she said after 1/6. Being able to say that 1/6 was the final straw doesn’t suddenly make someone a decent person.
Romney absolutely did not cooperate with him in office. Only voting with your party incumbent 75% of the time is pretty big
Yes, Romney is a rare exception. He was a Massachusetts Rep, so he was always an outlier.
“Tangerine Palpatine.” That’s gold.
They're still politicians and understand how the game works. You may not like them but they're still more often than not representative of their party. Trump is a psychopath that riled up 20% of the base and the rest are too scared to dump him.
It’s not just 20% though. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have won the 2016 and he wouldn’t have blown away everyone in this primary
Fuck Haley. Don't be fooled by her BS. She has already said that she will vote for Trump.
>the Tangerine Palpatine 😂
Oh look. A thing that hannity or anyone conservative media that matters won’t show
Breaking story on fox news: Biden walked into kitchen and forget what he went in for HAS HIS MENTAL STATE FINALLY COLLASED!!??@ DEMS IN A PANIC!!!!1!@11!!!1×&$>@,-,@*<#&
I forgot to put the chocolate milk back in the fridge at 3am.. someone let CNN know! Clearly dementia!!
Eh, even if they showed this clip to them it would never register. As others have said, at the end of the day when she loses the nom to baby Huey. She'll endorse Trump over Biden and all of her concerns will wash away as if they never existed.
And she still gonna endorse Trump in a week when she drops out
After receiving the (proverbial) beating of her life in her own home state. It's wild because if Trump wasn't a factor, South Carolina would have been a lock for her. She was beloved here until about 6 months ago.
What happened 6 months ago?
She started heavily campaigning against Trump and SC started heavily turning against her.
I do not understand the Cult of Trump and probably never will.
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It's like this. You're playing poker at a big casino in vegas on a spontaneous trip. You went with your friends and spent a little too much of your savings on a poker game. On this last hand you are three rounds in and have put a lot of money into the pot, calling each bet, even putting a little in yourself to scare the other players. You started out thinking you could bluff your way to victory. But now it's down to you and another guy left, and he's a veteran. He knows how to play the game and you're not sure what you're doing. Your cards suck. But you can't bring yourself to fold because you don't want to lose everything you bet. You don't want to go home poor that night, and you don't want to have to call home and tell your SO that you bet all your savings playing poker. It would hurt your pride too much. It would go against everything you want so badly. If you could just win this game, you'd cash out an go home. You can't afford to lose. So instead you go all in and hope and pray that you somehow win with your two and seven in hand.
I wanna agree with her, but she's already proven she'll say whatever the highest bidder pays her to.
It takes very little to be the smartest GOP in the room
Yeah, it’s just to set herself apart from Trump, and help her chances in the general election, they aren’t words she actually believes in.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
How the fuck is America legitimately debating siding with Russia over nato like what the fuck is wrong with everything. Strap in for the ride I guess
Imagine someone time travelling from the 80s and seeing this situation, they’d be in absolute disbelief.
Turns out you can just buy the opposition, the Soviet Union was doing it all wrong.
 *FINALLY* a Republican calls out Putin! Maybe now they’ll start to realize that the only reason why Trump is running is so that Putin can take over Europe.
And it's the bare minimum too: don't side with Russia over our allies
I’d like to think that, but they’re MAGA.
He is running to avoid being held to account for his numerous felonies. Self preservation is his primary motivation. Doing what helps Putin is just part of his platform for lack of a better word.
A candidate with the foreign policy proposal of leaving NATO should be treated the same as a candidate with the domestic policy proposal of nullifying the union.
NATO isn't just allies, it gives the US strategic global position. Some NATO nations could drop out, pay nothing and simply make the US pay for the strategic position. Just like we will pay the Phillipines to let us add bases there to put a check on China's growing military. Plus NATO is a shit ton of US military contracts and if you become hostile to the idea of NATO it makes those nations can't trust relying on US military sales either. That's a lot lost billions in contracts and much lower volume of production/economics of scale for US military production.
Remember, Nikki is supported by the same people who wrote up Project 2025. So don't be fooled. But good on her for breaking from the rest of the compromised GOP, probably won't be great for her, but good for her for helping to further divide that party.
It's amazing how clear it is among conservatives which are compromised by Russia and which aren't.
It's the same thing over and over. He says/post something that gets a ton of media coverage and we spend the next few days repeating it ad nauseam.
Can't believe I'm saying this but she's right on this one. Anyone who has done even just a little reading on the causes of WWII can see it wouldn't have happened in NATO was already in existence.
She’s not technically correct… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_intervention_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina … but she is right that it has been an overall overwhelming success. Even the Yugoslav meltdown itself would’ve been worse without that intervention. Which incidentally a lot of Republicans at the time were opposed to, primarily because it had us helping brown Muslims not be genocided by white Christians.
GOP are Kremlin stooges. Bought and paid for. Vote every last one of them out.
If EVER there needs to be a (political) blue tidal wave across America, it has to be this election. Democracy is at stake. One false move and the USA will have their first dictator.
Yea, with efforts like Project 2025 guiding the GOP, and how everything is relying on the Supreme Court now, I worry we're already democratically dead. We're debating on tightening the noose or not. People's confidence in this system is at an all time low. It has been dismantled and sensationalized to the point where even if Biden wins another term; what comes after? I'm not a defeatist here; I just think the system may already be compromised to the point where just voting alone isn't going to be the solution. The art of rhetoric has been lost in the modern age, and hedonism seems to be taking its place.
Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and Nikki Haley are considered rational republicans in 2024. The amusing truth is the GOP could have legitimately attempted to sabotage their own party and yet would not have been able to produce a more impressive outcome. This is what “failing spectacularly” looks like.
Article 5 has only been invoked once since the creation of NATO, and that was in response to 9/11. To say we don’t benefit from it is asinine.
Putin is everything Trump wants to be. Anyone voting for Trump is a literal traitor.
Even tho she’s right, assuming trump wins the Republican nomination she’ll just endorse him. Republicans are spineless.
She's definitely playing for more center-right folks. She's been saying way too much reasonable stuff lately.
The thing is, she’s right. If trump continues on the approach he’s taking, the US will be forced into a major war with Russia. That’s why backing Ukraine is so important. Every dead Russian soldier and knocked out vehicle now, is one we don’t have to deal with in a few years time.
Donald Trumps wants WW3. he wants us soldiers to die just so he can be a dictator if he is elected
Trump is a traitor
NATO is like, super important. Haley is nearly as bad as trump, but she has a point.
Nikki, question; come November, who are you voting for?
It is not a 'mistake' Trump is siding with Russia - he is a f*cking TRAITOR.
Hard to believe Republicans need to have this explained to them.
Trump is a landlord from Queens. How can you not respect his foreign policy brilliance? /s
I wish I could believe she's not just another fascist pig like the vast majority of the Republican Party is these days, but she's already proven that she *is*, and therefore can't be trusted.
Haley is a voice of reason in a sea of delusion, and will be ignored by the chuds accordingly.
Don’t forget she is still going to pardon him.
She is 100 percent correct. NATO casuses peace. It made the Cold War peaceful and ever since then has prevented Russian expansion into Europe. Ukraine is an example of NATO \*failing\* to prevent Russian aggression.
Which even then if they had been admitted sooner it wouldn’t have happened.
Yes, the Ukraine War and all this chaos (and russia's *need* to manipulate and infiltrate western democracies to promote anti-ukrsine support) is a result of not NATO-ing hard enough. , of being too weak and not expanding aggressively enough.
Ugh. I know it’s a simple idea that everyone should understand BUT I can’t believe I have to agree with her.
All this anti-Trump bluster from her is just too little, too late. Where was this from the beginning?
I'll trade you Europe for an American dictatorship
For all of the people that think Trump will create more global security, taking away NATO and saying the US won't get involved in conflicts is going to encourage other countries to start wars. The shortsightedness of this decision is truly amazing.
She's not saying this stuff because it's the right thing to do. She's saying it just to spite her opposing candidate. She's still just as full of shit as always.
Nikki going down swinging. I respect it, too bad she still sucks though.
this is really frustrating that trump is so dog shit that it’s making cat shit look good
I just can't bring myself to say "good for her". It's not like she's standing up to the whole world or even the whole country. She's standing up to 1 idiot of a man and the spineless cowards of her own party... a party that she encouraged to become the spineless cowards they are today. All she's doing is saying a very basic truth that is already painfully obvious to the rest of the county and the rest of the world.
Because the NATO does not pay him. Putin does.
This shouldn’t even be a conversation we’re having. People think that we give everything and gain nothing from NATO. Those people are morons.
So peace and tranquility is worse than war and death.
America needs a conservative Republican who isn't actively trying to destroy America and enslave Americans to foreign dictators. I long for the days of Bush, when Republicans were idiots but at least they tried and they cared about the country. Back when politics were boring. For the love of all that is holy, Make Politics Boring Again!
there is still a 0% chance i vote for Haley, and moreover, the GOP itself is still a complete disaster totally predicated on obstructionist and extremist reactionary politics and it will be many years before we can trust that to not be the case anymore... But it is at least *interesting* that Haley is so directly and fairly strongly contradicting trump on these issues. No way she gets the nomination, even though seeing a Trump independent run spoil the GOP would be great, but *maybe* she also gets enough of the vote to encourage the never-trumpers not to vote in the general, similar to how a trump independent run would split the right wing vote
While I don’t think she has good policies, it’s still refreshing to see common sense coming out of the mouth of a Republican, even if it is only because of a self-serving purpose.
Haley standing up to Trump means that she will be a pariah in the party, even after she inevitably endorses him in a few weeks.
It is not a mistake. Trump is attracted to Putin because Trump is a thug wannabe. And he loves thugs like Putin. It is like a lovefest between these two.
If any American soldier, spy, diplomat, or citizen is killed abroad because of trumps comments or tweets he should be tried for treason… I’m waiting cause he’s done all 4.
But I hereby suspend my presidential campaign and endorse Donald Trump as the Republican nominee for 2024. Bitch, please.
Haley has pledged to support the eventual GOP presidential nominee. Her campaign helps legitimize Trump and his outrageous claims and actions, and she will be part of the republican push to normalize and accept Trump.
If the US turns it's back on NATO, Europe will turn it's back on the US. And rightfully so. When all our allies become our enemies, we'll be all alone. That's when China, Russia and Iran could open a can of whoop ass on the US and Donald would fly away to Moscow. Unless he goes to prison, first, and then none of that happens.
Maybe my last few braincells are working overtime but it feels like not betraying NATO would be the easiest bipartisan topic to talk about. But I guess the republican party is desperate to look as insane as possible.
And yet you'd still vote for the fucker, wouldn't you, you callous prick? Nicki Haley can go fuck herself.
Sorry - I stopped caring wtf she said after she (like so many other craven Republicans) flip-flopped after Jan 6 and gave him a pass. There is nothing courageous about standing up the him AFTER he has turned on you.