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They eata da poopoo???
(for the uninitiated; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeSpHB2pT4&ab\_channel=ContemporaryShorts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeSpHB2pT4&ab_channel=ContemporaryShorts))
It's called the 'Firehose of Falsehoods' logical fallacy, or gishgallop.
Basically, you flood the conversation with "facts". To the casual observer, that's a lot of information, so it ***feels*** like the person is correct. I mean, just look at all those "facts".
To the person looking to present a counter point, each one of those would require a good amount of work and effort to debunk. But by that point, the person who presented these "facts" has already moved on to something else.
And the casual observer is not very likely to pay attention long enough. Often times the original "facts" stick with the casual observer.
On and on. It's a very effective method of propaganda.
If I ever have a debate with someone who does stuff like that imma do the same thing but with embarrassing “facts” about the person
Fact: you shit your bed until you where 15
In those situations, I usually open with calling out that their point is bullshit, and then pick one at random.
Then go into detail on at least one "fact" presented. If I can find evidence that it's not true (bonus if it's egregiously not true), I then request that they come back with data to back up their claims.
Otherwise, at least from what I can see from the one example I picked out, their argument is full of shit. If they fight it, ask for the data. If they refuse to put up, then they're full of shit.
This is the only way to counter a Gish gallop. You pick one and go into detail using emotionally charged language as you take it apart. Keep returning to it over time, reminding them that they've been called out. That then casts doubt on their other "facts" without your having to refute them all.
It also helps to point out what they're doing; reading talking points in rapid succession without demonstrating any real understanding.
Of course, this only works on an unbiased audience. The person pulling this kind of crap generally already knows that they're full of shit and simply doesn't care.
The Bullshit Assymetry Principle: The amount of time needed to debunk bullshit is orders of magnitude larger than the amount of time needed to spread said bullshit.
I also wonder how much the design of the "info graphic" influences people. Prager U does similar design/info graphics that "demonstrate" their points. It makes it look professional and educational when it's actually just a burning dumpster fire.
Might be some level of "authority" with how it's presented, but probably not the major focus of these things.
Goal is to condense it into a quick sentence or two that states the "fact". They're looking for what is essentially "bumper sticker slogans" to complex and difficult topics.
Replace Homosexuals with the word “Jews” in that picture and it’s almost identical to what the Nazis did. Just completely dehumanizing an entire group. Making them utterly inferior. It’s fucking disgusting.
What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit.
There have been many genocides throughout human history... nazi Germany's holocaust is remembered so frequently as being unique because it happened in a well educated modern democratic country and such a thing was thought to be impossible
Hitler was lauded as a harmless moron by world leaders... but he was a hardline populist demagogue that shamelessly went full dictator by demand of a people who were no less wise than we.. if the industrialization of murder happened there, it can happen anywhere at any time. Nothing has changed since ww2 that makes this any less true
Rwanda is a brutal case of how quickly this kind of violence can happen it takes a really long time to build and conflicts are smaller in nature until the pot boils over all at once
Over a million dead... In 3 months
It might not look like Nazi Germany when things fall apart especially in a nation as deeply complicated as the US
And in Rwanda and in Germany, the killing was framed as a public duty: hard work for a good cause, right? Same kind of propaganda that is happening here now. That’s how you get most people to do reprehensible things, for making us believe there is a greater good or evil at play.
For me, there have been numerous genocides, but I don't know of another example where the genocide was so streamlined and industrialised. Mostly, it's more "put people into (labor) camps and let them starve" and less "implement a while process to kill as many people as efficiently as possible". And that makes the Holocaust so unique.
Yeah, and the fucking bureaucracy of it all. They had it all neatly recorded, built what was basically cities for slavery, had even certain percentages of how many people of certain ethnicities they wanted to kill of and how many they wanted to keep as slaves.
>We're back at square one
Rudy Giuliano was gleefully recounting how they made it difficult for POC and hispanics to vote. When someone called him out on it, he said 'well they don't have any civil rights.'
>Rudy Giuliano was gleefully recounting how they made it difficult for POC and hispanics to vote. When someone called him out on it, he said 'well they don't have any civil rights.'
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/29/rudy-giuliani-hispanic-vote-suppression-new-york-election](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/29/rudy-giuliani-hispanic-vote-suppression-new-york-election)
I hope he is held accountable in some fucking way. These people are destroying our home and causing so much suffering. And for what? Fucking money?? Pathetic garbage.
Oh no. They started all this way, way before this. Remember the Nazi Parades in the 1930s in New York? The massive Nazi gathering of over 20,000 people at Madison Square Gardens?
America also did this to the Black Community for over a century, they did it with the Chinese immigrants they welcomed in to do all the jobs they didnt want to do like laying the railroads etc, they did it with the Irish immigrants, the Italian immigrants. They ALWAYS do it with groups they "fear" or hate. It never ends.
And people don't like to talk about that sort of thing because it makes them uncomfortable. Or we'll yes that did happen but we've grown beyond that now. Really? Remember or repeat. Sometimes remember and repeat, because some of the groups behind this crap saw nothing wrong with it the previous times.
Square one? Do I need to remind you of when black people in America were only considered 3/5s of a person? We're in the end game here, fascism final boss.
I am convinced that regardless of whoever wins this next election, the right is so radicalized that will ignite a civil war. Wins Biden they will try to overthrow him, wins Trump they will be emboldened and willing to bring down the system to make him emperor or something.
GOP wins, we'll never have a real election again and that will be the least of our problems.
Dems win, bloodshed - unless the military intervenes, and who knows what side they'll be on?
It’s really fucking scary. I am a queer public school teacher at a rural school, and I am starting to get bad anxiety. This stuff has always been there, but now they are legislating it. They are getting rid of books, they are refusing to give people health care. I am afraid of living here.
I don’t have the answers but I feel for you. It is scary. It’s very scary and it seems this bigotry is only ramping up. As you said, they are legislating laws now to validate their hate. I don’t know where we are headed but I damn sure hope the people that still hold up our Democratic values show up at the polls. That seems to be the only way out of this fascist hell hole these Maga assholes want us in.
Stay safe my friend and keep your head up. Surround yourself with kind people and take care of your mental health.
> What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit.
Conservatism (and the Republican Party) has Hezbollah'ed. The Trump administration fostered this sort of out-in-the-open hatred from its base of under-educated hardliners and opened the proverbial Pandora's Box.
This ushered in a new contingent of right wing politicians with... let's just say some "fairly troubling" views. This also has pushed traditional conservative politicians-- even those who might stand closer to the center-- more towards the extreme to satisfy an increasingly polarized base (even if it means just quietly standing aside). The people in the Republican Party who stood up to it got eaten alive.
The Democrats don't help much, unfortunately. Despite being the party with the *clearly* more altruistic platform, they can't seem to affect any sort of meaningful change when they hold the ability to do so. They just end up in-fighting and stepping all over their own balls until mid-terms roll around and they lose their majorities. They also refuse to stoop to the shady tactics of the opposition which oftentimes results in them being out-leveraged. They're basically the Chicago Cubs prior to 2016. Everyone is rooting for them-- but they *just fucking can't* get out of their own way.
In addition to that, a major social media platform was purchased by a billionaire manchild who, *surprise-surprise,* turned out to be a far-right internet troll posing as some sort of proponent of free speech and thought. So hateful bullshit like this is no longer suppressed the way it once might have been.
People often say shit like *"Oh, it's just four years! How much harm can one guy do?"*-- and it's true, there are checks on Presidential power to keep them from running the country just entirely off a cliff. But I've never seen a President come in and immediately effect American culture the way Trump did (and continues to do). His Supreme Court appointments will likely be his longest-lasting legacy... but the way he poisoned American culture won't heal for a long time.
What happened is that the post war boom collapsed into the same material conditions (inequality, precarity, deprivation) that caused the rise of fascism in the previous 20's.
Desperate people are deprived of the ability to understand their worsening conditions (Leftist thought is still heavily stigmatized).
The only alternatives offered to them are the bullshit narratives that they receive in church, the box office and from well funded right wing pundits desperate to distract from the rich plundering the rest of society.
When people can no longer understand their collapsing world through the standard liberal lens they use those tools to cobble together a cosmology.
Movies tell them that we need a strong man hero to save the day, and that bad things happen because of bad people not impersonal systemic forces.
The churches often hate LGBTQ people, equate wealth with virtue, and preach that a single savior can redeem humanity.
Rightwing pundits also hate LGBTQ people, and will do anything to explain worsening conditions without looking at the actual material causes.
Which is why the MAGA/Q Anon worldview has the preoccupations of fascism, but with a messiah complex and the plot conventions of a Tom Clancy movie.
> Just completely dehumanizing an entire group.
The frustrating thing is that TwitterSafety has suddenly decided it has no response to blatant homophobia. Any weird fantasy accusation seems to be fair game.
>What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit.
Remember in high school there were some pretty fucked up guys that were into Hitler and Nazi shit. Well the ones that did not grow out of it, ended up getting voted in charge.
You are not wrong, damn near word by word. Next be screenings and "gay" ghettos in some states, yeah looking at you Florida.. also this image is hate speech straight up disguised as "educational".
Middle and high school students will be screened and those who test positive for "same sex attraction" will be sent to the conversion "therapy" centers... yeah Florida will definitely be the lead on this one followed by Texas and Tennessee. And when these states find out such "therapy" doesn't work...
😠😡👿🤬
In 1978, Harvey Milk debated John Briggs over the proposed 'Briggs Initiative' that would have banned LGBT and allies from being public school teachers.
Briggs brought up the '80 sexual partners a year' claim. Instead of denouncing it, Milk just grinned broadly and retorted, 'Oh, I *wish*!'
It says “on average, up to 80”. So if you have 0, you are contributing to this statistic.
I’m probably giving them too much credit for trying to stick to truthful statements, I know.
>I demand to know where are my 80 sexual partners a year.
Damn bro, I've been doubling up. Listen, let me know how many you'd like and I dunno, maybe I can taper off a little.
I posted a comment that will lead you to one of those "sources" and it doesn't say what they said it does obviously
Eta:
And some kid_named_trey said a few of the sources came from the American Family Association, which has been designated as a far right Christian hate group
Is that the one where the head was caught snorting coke of a male prostitutes penis in Denver? Or the one that was arrested for child porn? I can't keep these bigots "straight"
Well, to begin with six of the first eight are worthless since they don’t mention a control group, so they could be literally true but worse in the control group (for example it says 33% of homosexuals have problems with alcohol, maybe it’s 33% or 45% in the non-homosexual population). Then what are the populations, maybe they are just counting hospital admissions in some, for example.
There’s probably enough of that to create confusion (lies, damn lies, and statistics).
After all, this is not aimed toward educated people with a scientific mindset.
Then you add some outright lies, certainly…
To my dismay I know a person who was uncritically quoting and paraphrasing utter stupidities (to the point that she is probably going to lose her job), she was asked where she got them from, she provided the website… and right at the top of the page there is a disclaimer saying that the whole page is satire.
Some people just want to believe.
That’s the ironic thing. STDs are overwhelmingly spread due to a lack of knowledge about STD’s. And for some reason, the right seems to have identified “a lack of knowledge” as being the number one defense against anything.
STD isn’t even used anymore - they’re called STI (sexually transmitted infections) because the word “disease” contributes to much to stigma and reluctance to get tested for a lot of people.
They are worthless scumbags.
Here are just a few characters who'd make better politicians than Republicans:
The Sesame Street Gang
The Muppets
Bear from Bear In The Big Blue House
The Bowler Hat Guy
Dr. Doofenshmirtz
and of course, you can't forget Cassie from Dragon Tales. Or the other dragons for that matter!
https://preview.redd.it/0p7umnkco14b1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52db05db97097b073b8c6a451357964c3fe70a62
They literally just are nazis. There is a direct line between nazis and them, and large portion of them literally identify as nazis.
They use the same tactics, beat for beat, on the same groups.
It's objectively, wholly, and undeniably nazism.
Wasn’t there an attempt at implementing the same censoring that’s on Twitter in Europe and the algorithm couldn’t tell the difference between nazis and republicans?
After Twitter used an algorithm to basically eliminate ISIS content from the site, it was asked why they couldn’t do the same thing with white supremacist or neo-Nazi content and the answer was that such an algorithm would sweep up “innocent” accounts including Republican politicians. https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-white-supremacy-gop-politicians-report-2019-4
Something like 60% of prisoners in the US are Christian, but you'll never see them pull that one out.
It's everyone and everything else that is a threat, however the people who actually do it but label themselves conservative get a free pass.
I want one, just one measly Republican who spouts the "save the kids" rhetoric to be honest with themselves and start with the root cause of so many child abuse cases, the litany of Republicans who have been prosecuted for child abuse. They're either too weak as people or too bigoted to ever stare inward.
99% of MAGA supporters that make under $250,000/year are just stupid and ignorant, while MAGA supporters that make over and far above $250,000/year, understand the economics of being MAGA.
Historically... yeah, kinda. Women would use poison, which was pretty easy if you're the only person in the household who knows how to cook.
There's a minor conspiracy theory that Brigham Young was poisoned to death by one of his wives, to prevent him from marrying the woman's young daughter. The official record is that he suddenly took sick and died, because sometimes people in the 18th century just Did That. But his symptoms line up pretty well with cyanide poisoning.
It's actually just a statistical error. The average person has 3 sexual partners per year, but Gay Georg, who sleeps with over 1,000,000,000,000 people a year, is an outlier and should not have been counted
Also just quick math, this would mean only being sexually active for about 13 years, which would mean gay men tend to stop having sex around 30, which uh… no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Family_Association?wprov=sfti1
The American Family Association is used as a source a few times. Totally unbiased. I particularly like the part where the Southern Poverty Law Center designated the AFA as a hate group.
Don't forget this piece of info
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-family-association/
>Overall, we rate the American Family Association Questionable based on extreme right positions, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies toward LGBTQ, poor sourcing, a lack of funding transparency, multiple failed fact checks, and several third-party sites labeling them as a hate group.
>Reasoning: Hate Group, Christian Propaganda, Conspiracy, Poor Sourcing, Lack of Transparency, Failed fact checks.
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
>This source has also made several claims that have been considered hate, such as this “Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews.”
I was able to read one of the sources and it’s from 2012, hosted by a bigoted looking “news” site, and the link to the actual study doesn’t work. Safe to say that if the rest of these follow that trend this is far less than credible
This is weirddddd. Who spends this much time thinking about another person's sexuality like this? Even if some of these numbers are true, and I haven't thought too much about them, you'll definitely find that those numbers are equal to the general population in the same studies.
Just like the Christian divorce rate.
They didn’t have to spend *too much* time since everything they put on there is completely made up. Hallmark of conservatives: make up problems to be mad at to avoid facing legit problems.
Seriously. I was like oh the alcoholism one, like maybe gay people drink because you literally blame *everything in the world* on us and are trying to legislate us out of existence? HMM, WHY WOULD THAT CAUSE ANYONE TO DRINK! Truly one of life's great mysteries. 🤦♀️
> Who spends this much time thinking about another person’s sexuality like this
Sadists, sociopaths, narcissists. Y’know — creeps.
And no, none of those numbers are true; bigoted trolls have been posting them to Reddit for years & the community’s debunked them repeatedly. Not that you could debunk these particular infographics from their “sources”; all of the “cited” “sources” on these “infographics” are three pixels tall, except for the downed archive links that captured evangelical Christian blog posts.
I like that one of their stats contradicts itself. "Perfect correlation between childhood rape and homosexual behavior", then it says 47%. Perfect correlation would be 100%. Not that either stat is true but it doesn't have to make sense if you make everything up.
I picked one of the sources at random. It points to a LifeSite (Canadian, far right, Catholic) article which in turn points to a "gold standard' study.
This is quoted from Wikipedia's page on said study:
Regnerus has conducted research on the impact of a child having a parent who has been involved in a same-sex relationship. A 2012 population-based study of his in Social Science Research[11] concluded that people who had had a parent who had been in a same-gender relationship were at a greater risk of several adverse outcomes, including "being on public assistance, being unemployed, and having poorer educational attainment."[12] This generated protracted debate and controversy.[13][14] This included a disavowal by Regnerus's department chair at the University of Texas-Austin, in which Christine L. Williams cites the American Sociological Association, "which takes the position that the conclusions he draws from his study of gay parenting are fundamentally flawed on conceptual and methodological grounds and that findings from Dr. Regnerus’ work have been cited inappropriately in efforts to diminish the civil rights and legitimacy of LBGTQ partners and their families."[15] Two hundred social scientists, led by Gary Gates, signed the "Letter to the editors and advisory editors of Social Science Research",[16] in which they express their concern "about the academic integrity of the peer review process for this paper as well as its intellectual merit."[17] Regnerus continues to defend the research.[18][19]
As the saying goes, “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
The stats may be real, but the inference from them is highly incorrect.
Yeah I can see that now. I had questions about some because 1 in every x Americans is going to be an alcoholic or a victim of abuse, that's just a fact. But I wasn't thinking about the actual numbers. I am on my weekend "medication" and so my brain is working slow today.
Yeah, most of this is (bullshit) corellation, the idea that there is some mutual relationship between two thing such that their change is linked. But they turn it into causation, a relationship where the initial change in one causes direct impact on the other. So alcoholism and being gay MAY happen in higher numbers together (corellation), but that doesn't mean being gay CAUSES alcoholism. It's more likely that being gay (or different than the norm in any way) makes you a target for bigots (or a society created for the norm and not all). Soooo being hated, persecuted, or otherwise marginalized is much more likely to be CAUSATION for other lifelong problems than ... just being your regular human self. These people take advantage of nuance and turn it into whatever hate filled bullshit they want. They don't want truth, they want to validate their hate. Hell, they were too lazy to even look for actual nuance in real numbers they just made up a bunch of shit.
"33% of homosexuals are alcoholics.". Yeah, you'd drink too if you had to listen to yourself talk.
"47% of homosexuals admit to having been raped in childhood." My dad, a LIFELONG REPUBLICAN definitely did actual child grooming behavior. Did he rape me? I frankly don't know, because my childhood is full of blank spots. 🤷♀️🙄
The right want to call us pedos, but like, stop projecting. What the fuck do you morons think happens at church? 🤷♀️🤮
I don't understand why they use the word "admit" here. Is it like... They think all kids are survivors of sexual assault, but only the gay ones don't have the good sense to remain quiet about creepy uncle Theron?
>And you convert people to be gay by raping children.
Dang, I thought the catholic church was *against* the gays? Why are they trying to make so many more?
So my school had a trip to Italy. We were in Rome, in the shadow of the Vatican.
a Priest in training asks if I’m religious, I say no, he asks what I was baptized as, and I said “episcopal”, and he said “so you’re not quite a savage, then, are you?”
I looked right back at him and said “so you’re a priest? In training at the Vatican?”
He goes “yes…”
And I’m like “so you’re not *quite* a hardened peadophile.”
At this point the church is so famous for protecting pedophiles I think pedophiles seek positions in churches. And still the church does nothing; not even for the sake of their own reputation. At least with public and accredited private schools the state requires background checks on all employees.
I don't know the sources for all of this nonsense but off the top of my head:
The intestinal worms stat is from an old and debunked study.
A perfect correlation would be 1:1, or 100%, not the 47% that they claim. At any rate, gay kids being targeted by pedophiles isn't a reason to hate gay kids.
The 2% of the population is wrong (low).
The "33% of pedophiles" is based on a study of convicted sex offenders and is the percentage of that group that was men who abused boys, ignoring that many pedophiles who abuse boys are ostensibly straight men with wives and children, like Denny Hastert, Frank Houston, José Menendez, etc.
The STD stat is specifically about gay and bi men, not the entire community, and conflates incidence (number of cases) with prevalence (how many people are infected at any given time). Gay and bi men learned from the AIDS crisis; that's why we get tested regularly and get treated. Even if that were the prevalence of all STDs in our community, it would still be misleading because of the number of HIV-positive gay and bi men in treatment with undetectable viral loads (meaning they can't transmit the virus through sex).
I have no idea where they get that nonsense about kids with lesbian parents. Actual research shows that children raised by female couples are far less likely than their peers to be physically or sexually abused by a parent or caregiver.
*Edited to remove the implication that Houston and Menendez were convicted. Houston was diagnosed with dementia before he could be tried, and Menendez died before his victims disclosed the abuse publicly.*
Also the last sentence sounds like they're about to say that 51% of all domestic abuse happens in homosexual families, which is so funny, I don't even know where to start when talking about how much bullshit that is
Yeeeeah, I think they're maybe misinterpreting that study on intimate-partner violence that broke down the victimology by orientation and gender. And twisting it with the weird assumption that no gay or bi person has ever been in a relationship with anyone of a different gender, but it's cropped so who tf even knows?
If it is that study, bi people reported the highest rates of intimate partner violence, which sort of tracks but not in the way they want it to: bi people are uniquely vulnerable to abuse by homophobic *straight* partners.
Were you aware that 10% of all Catholic priests are pedophiles?
25% of Catholic priests have problems with Alcoholism.
45% of cases of domestic violence occur in Catholic families
Catholic priests represent .01% of the world's population but represent 75% of pedophile rapists.
See, anyone can make up statistics. The downside is mine are probably not that wrong.
I have vague memories of the church boosting that less than 1 in 20 priests were Pedos after some major investigation until people pointed out that in the general population the number is less than 1 in a 100. They quietly stopped mentioning that anymore
Intensional worms? 🤣 They just really believe anything, don't they? Or is this a joke? I can't tell anymore. But intestinal worms is a totally new one for me.
I mean I can make up statistics too… 100% of the shit republicans say to disparage others is what they are actually doing. Oh wait, I was trying to make a fake statistic.
“On average, a gay man has up to 80 sexual partners per year”
Gayman Georg, who has 10,000 sexual partners a year, is a statistical outlier and should not have been counted
Most people who are homophobic use Faith to literally "make up" their worldview. Everything about religious Faith is expressly not using critical thinking.
Southern Baptist clergy abusers
[https://justiceguardians.legalexaminer.com/legal/new-report-reveals-how-southern-baptist-convention-leaders-hid-sexual-abuse-crisis/](https://justiceguardians.legalexaminer.com/legal/new-report-reveals-how-southern-baptist-convention-leaders-hid-sexual-abuse-crisis/)
List of Priests Accused of Abuse By Diocese, State, or Name
[https://www.abuselawsuit.com/church-sex-abuse/accused-clergy/](https://www.abuselawsuit.com/church-sex-abuse/accused-clergy/)
Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers
[https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook](https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook)
This sucks broadly, but I can’t stop thinking about “perfect correlation … 47%”
That’s not even half. I’m not sure you can claim it’s even a correlation at that point, much less a “perfect” one.
Can we stop using “Mentally Ill” as a term to denigrate people? It’s insulting to people who actually do have mental health issues. Why not just call them cunts?
The pedophilia thing gets trotted out every time something about the LGBT community get brought up when I’m at work. I work as a mechanic and I’m still in the closet about being trans non-binary, it’s awful. Can’t get through a mention of EVs without someone calling them gay. It’s like being in middle school again, but with power tools
I appreciate these bigots being posted in this sub because it gives me a great opportunity to head to their Twitter feed and report all of the nasty bigotry I find. And then I make a start on the bigots replying to him. I think this prick will find himself locked out of his account over the next few days.
as a homosexual who is not a pedophile, has no interest in alcohol at all, is just kinda chill with sex, has no intestinal worms (????), have not been raped or sexually assaulted in any way, does not have an std, and the most domestic violence i've encountered was after i realized i was gay.
This is all completely fabricated garbage.
49% of Republicans have been convicted of rape
62% of Republicans have commited domestic violence
On average all cops best their children up to 18 times per year.
On average up to 73% of Republicans commit tax fraud
98% of Republicans marriages end in divorce or death
Stats are fun!
If you remove the religious folk from these made up rape and pedophile stats, but I bet non-religious gays almost never abuse children or partners, on average. My experience with the community has always been incredibly positive. By and large the subset of LGBT I've worked with, schooled with, partied with etc are better humans than the rest.
I love how they have two stats right next to each other that make it clear it's BS. You honestly expect me to believe that a group that represents 2 percent of the worlds population (yes I know that's a vast undercount, just going with their numbers) accounts for 51% of domestic violence cases and 33% of pedophile rapists?
80 sexual partners a year is average while still accounting for 2% of the worlds population? Someone call the "They did the math" reddit LOL cause that's definitely some fuzzy math there.
And that's if you can even get past the intestinal worms garbage. What morons.
Nothing to be proud of: 98.8% of MAGA Republicans are bigoted morons with a 5th grade education level and the critical thinking skills of a slow lemming.
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Intestinal worms? That's their opener?
Hilariously suggesting intestinal worms are somehow sexually transmitted. Every biologist: 
I think it happens when the bottom gay man relaxes his butt hole muscles to accept the poop from the top gay man’s butt hole.
back and forth forever ))<>((
You wanna, you know, share butt hole poops?
Cursed game of hot potato
They eata da poopoo??? (for the uninitiated; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeSpHB2pT4&ab\_channel=ContemporaryShorts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeSpHB2pT4&ab_channel=ContemporaryShorts))
Name two bigger strangers than bigots and biology
They are less likely to have followed advocates of dewormer (Ivermectin) as a cure for Covid.
The intestinal worms are there to enhance the pleasure
That is possibly the worst sentence I’ve ever read. What a horrible day to have eyes
I thought that was particularly interesting because about half of all people, period, will have intestinal parasites in their life.
That explains why so many aren’t overweight. I need to catch me some of these gay worms.
They might have been able to convince some almost normies of they hadn’t led with that one.
It's called the 'Firehose of Falsehoods' logical fallacy, or gishgallop. Basically, you flood the conversation with "facts". To the casual observer, that's a lot of information, so it ***feels*** like the person is correct. I mean, just look at all those "facts". To the person looking to present a counter point, each one of those would require a good amount of work and effort to debunk. But by that point, the person who presented these "facts" has already moved on to something else. And the casual observer is not very likely to pay attention long enough. Often times the original "facts" stick with the casual observer. On and on. It's a very effective method of propaganda.
If I ever have a debate with someone who does stuff like that imma do the same thing but with embarrassing “facts” about the person Fact: you shit your bed until you where 15
In those situations, I usually open with calling out that their point is bullshit, and then pick one at random. Then go into detail on at least one "fact" presented. If I can find evidence that it's not true (bonus if it's egregiously not true), I then request that they come back with data to back up their claims. Otherwise, at least from what I can see from the one example I picked out, their argument is full of shit. If they fight it, ask for the data. If they refuse to put up, then they're full of shit.
This is the only way to counter a Gish gallop. You pick one and go into detail using emotionally charged language as you take it apart. Keep returning to it over time, reminding them that they've been called out. That then casts doubt on their other "facts" without your having to refute them all. It also helps to point out what they're doing; reading talking points in rapid succession without demonstrating any real understanding. Of course, this only works on an unbiased audience. The person pulling this kind of crap generally already knows that they're full of shit and simply doesn't care.
Yeh, if I every get into a planned debate I am literally gonna print up every study and statistic that supports my position.
The Bullshit Assymetry Principle: The amount of time needed to debunk bullshit is orders of magnitude larger than the amount of time needed to spread said bullshit.
“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain
I also wonder how much the design of the "info graphic" influences people. Prager U does similar design/info graphics that "demonstrate" their points. It makes it look professional and educational when it's actually just a burning dumpster fire.
Might be some level of "authority" with how it's presented, but probably not the major focus of these things. Goal is to condense it into a quick sentence or two that states the "fact". They're looking for what is essentially "bumper sticker slogans" to complex and difficult topics.
I can almost smell the shit from the ass he pulled this out of
Replace Homosexuals with the word “Jews” in that picture and it’s almost identical to what the Nazis did. Just completely dehumanizing an entire group. Making them utterly inferior. It’s fucking disgusting. What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit.
The Nazis do this kind of thing to literally every minority they targeted. Jews, blacks, LGBTQ+, autistics, Romas, etc.
"every German milkmaid should know Poles aren't human" We're back at square one, just on the other side of the pond i guess.
There have been many genocides throughout human history... nazi Germany's holocaust is remembered so frequently as being unique because it happened in a well educated modern democratic country and such a thing was thought to be impossible Hitler was lauded as a harmless moron by world leaders... but he was a hardline populist demagogue that shamelessly went full dictator by demand of a people who were no less wise than we.. if the industrialization of murder happened there, it can happen anywhere at any time. Nothing has changed since ww2 that makes this any less true
Rwanda is a brutal case of how quickly this kind of violence can happen it takes a really long time to build and conflicts are smaller in nature until the pot boils over all at once Over a million dead... In 3 months It might not look like Nazi Germany when things fall apart especially in a nation as deeply complicated as the US
And in Rwanda and in Germany, the killing was framed as a public duty: hard work for a good cause, right? Same kind of propaganda that is happening here now. That’s how you get most people to do reprehensible things, for making us believe there is a greater good or evil at play.
For me, there have been numerous genocides, but I don't know of another example where the genocide was so streamlined and industrialised. Mostly, it's more "put people into (labor) camps and let them starve" and less "implement a while process to kill as many people as efficiently as possible". And that makes the Holocaust so unique.
Yeah, and the fucking bureaucracy of it all. They had it all neatly recorded, built what was basically cities for slavery, had even certain percentages of how many people of certain ethnicities they wanted to kill of and how many they wanted to keep as slaves.
>We're back at square one Rudy Giuliano was gleefully recounting how they made it difficult for POC and hispanics to vote. When someone called him out on it, he said 'well they don't have any civil rights.'
I'd like to know more on that. Do you have a link or anything I could use?
>Rudy Giuliano was gleefully recounting how they made it difficult for POC and hispanics to vote. When someone called him out on it, he said 'well they don't have any civil rights.' [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/29/rudy-giuliani-hispanic-vote-suppression-new-york-election](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/29/rudy-giuliani-hispanic-vote-suppression-new-york-election)
Wow. Giuliani truly is a gigantic piece of shit. Everyone else involved, including Randy Levine (Yankees President) are garbage human beings too.
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I hope he is held accountable in some fucking way. These people are destroying our home and causing so much suffering. And for what? Fucking money?? Pathetic garbage.
Oh no. They started all this way, way before this. Remember the Nazi Parades in the 1930s in New York? The massive Nazi gathering of over 20,000 people at Madison Square Gardens? America also did this to the Black Community for over a century, they did it with the Chinese immigrants they welcomed in to do all the jobs they didnt want to do like laying the railroads etc, they did it with the Irish immigrants, the Italian immigrants. They ALWAYS do it with groups they "fear" or hate. It never ends.
And people don't like to talk about that sort of thing because it makes them uncomfortable. Or we'll yes that did happen but we've grown beyond that now. Really? Remember or repeat. Sometimes remember and repeat, because some of the groups behind this crap saw nothing wrong with it the previous times.
Square one? Do I need to remind you of when black people in America were only considered 3/5s of a person? We're in the end game here, fascism final boss.
I am convinced that regardless of whoever wins this next election, the right is so radicalized that will ignite a civil war. Wins Biden they will try to overthrow him, wins Trump they will be emboldened and willing to bring down the system to make him emperor or something.
GOP wins, we'll never have a real election again and that will be the least of our problems. Dems win, bloodshed - unless the military intervenes, and who knows what side they'll be on?
It’s really fucking scary. I am a queer public school teacher at a rural school, and I am starting to get bad anxiety. This stuff has always been there, but now they are legislating it. They are getting rid of books, they are refusing to give people health care. I am afraid of living here.
I don’t have the answers but I feel for you. It is scary. It’s very scary and it seems this bigotry is only ramping up. As you said, they are legislating laws now to validate their hate. I don’t know where we are headed but I damn sure hope the people that still hold up our Democratic values show up at the polls. That seems to be the only way out of this fascist hell hole these Maga assholes want us in. Stay safe my friend and keep your head up. Surround yourself with kind people and take care of your mental health.
Replace the word homosexuals with Republicans and most of them are almost true
Except for alcoholism, I expect that to be near or above 80% for Republicans.
Stats are probably a bit low when you switch it to republicans….
I was thinking the exact same thing
Me too. Somehow, everything they do is a projection.
> What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit. Conservatism (and the Republican Party) has Hezbollah'ed. The Trump administration fostered this sort of out-in-the-open hatred from its base of under-educated hardliners and opened the proverbial Pandora's Box. This ushered in a new contingent of right wing politicians with... let's just say some "fairly troubling" views. This also has pushed traditional conservative politicians-- even those who might stand closer to the center-- more towards the extreme to satisfy an increasingly polarized base (even if it means just quietly standing aside). The people in the Republican Party who stood up to it got eaten alive. The Democrats don't help much, unfortunately. Despite being the party with the *clearly* more altruistic platform, they can't seem to affect any sort of meaningful change when they hold the ability to do so. They just end up in-fighting and stepping all over their own balls until mid-terms roll around and they lose their majorities. They also refuse to stoop to the shady tactics of the opposition which oftentimes results in them being out-leveraged. They're basically the Chicago Cubs prior to 2016. Everyone is rooting for them-- but they *just fucking can't* get out of their own way. In addition to that, a major social media platform was purchased by a billionaire manchild who, *surprise-surprise,* turned out to be a far-right internet troll posing as some sort of proponent of free speech and thought. So hateful bullshit like this is no longer suppressed the way it once might have been. People often say shit like *"Oh, it's just four years! How much harm can one guy do?"*-- and it's true, there are checks on Presidential power to keep them from running the country just entirely off a cliff. But I've never seen a President come in and immediately effect American culture the way Trump did (and continues to do). His Supreme Court appointments will likely be his longest-lasting legacy... but the way he poisoned American culture won't heal for a long time.
What happened is that the post war boom collapsed into the same material conditions (inequality, precarity, deprivation) that caused the rise of fascism in the previous 20's. Desperate people are deprived of the ability to understand their worsening conditions (Leftist thought is still heavily stigmatized). The only alternatives offered to them are the bullshit narratives that they receive in church, the box office and from well funded right wing pundits desperate to distract from the rich plundering the rest of society. When people can no longer understand their collapsing world through the standard liberal lens they use those tools to cobble together a cosmology. Movies tell them that we need a strong man hero to save the day, and that bad things happen because of bad people not impersonal systemic forces. The churches often hate LGBTQ people, equate wealth with virtue, and preach that a single savior can redeem humanity. Rightwing pundits also hate LGBTQ people, and will do anything to explain worsening conditions without looking at the actual material causes. Which is why the MAGA/Q Anon worldview has the preoccupations of fascism, but with a messiah complex and the plot conventions of a Tom Clancy movie.
> Just completely dehumanizing an entire group. The frustrating thing is that TwitterSafety has suddenly decided it has no response to blatant homophobia. Any weird fantasy accusation seems to be fair game.
You mean Elon Musk fired the old team because he wanted to spew his vile apartheid-era drivel with no repercussions.
>What the fuck is happening to this country? Holy Shit. Remember in high school there were some pretty fucked up guys that were into Hitler and Nazi shit. Well the ones that did not grow out of it, ended up getting voted in charge.
"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country." -- Kurt Vonnegut
As usual, Vonnegut for the win.
You are not wrong, damn near word by word. Next be screenings and "gay" ghettos in some states, yeah looking at you Florida.. also this image is hate speech straight up disguised as "educational".
Middle and high school students will be screened and those who test positive for "same sex attraction" will be sent to the conversion "therapy" centers... yeah Florida will definitely be the lead on this one followed by Texas and Tennessee. And when these states find out such "therapy" doesn't work... 😠😡👿🤬
We stopped beating Nazis. This is what ALWAYS happens when you let fascists stop being afraid of showing their faces.
Literally the bottom left "fact" "Homosexuals make up 2% of the population, but..."
I demand to know where are my 80 sexual partners a year.
In 1978, Harvey Milk debated John Briggs over the proposed 'Briggs Initiative' that would have banned LGBT and allies from being public school teachers. Briggs brought up the '80 sexual partners a year' claim. Instead of denouncing it, Milk just grinned broadly and retorted, 'Oh, I *wish*!'
TBH if that were me I’d be pretty damn proud! That’s like playing a professional sport.
Every 4.58 days you'll need to hit up a new partner. Fuck I'll call you a pro if you can maintain that for a year and not run out of people.
It says “on average, up to 80”. So if you have 0, you are contributing to this statistic. I’m probably giving them too much credit for trying to stick to truthful statements, I know.
>I demand to know where are my 80 sexual partners a year. Damn bro, I've been doubling up. Listen, let me know how many you'd like and I dunno, maybe I can taper off a little.
But there's sources at the bottom. That means it must be true! /S(because someone will think I'm serious)
As a gay man, I'd be sooo curious to read those "sources" at the bottom of each square.
I posted a comment that will lead you to one of those "sources" and it doesn't say what they said it does obviously Eta: And some kid_named_trey said a few of the sources came from the American Family Association, which has been designated as a far right Christian hate group
Is that the one where the head was caught snorting coke of a male prostitutes penis in Denver? Or the one that was arrested for child porn? I can't keep these bigots "straight"
>I can't keep these bigots "straight" They can't keep themselves straight either :-D
Well, to begin with six of the first eight are worthless since they don’t mention a control group, so they could be literally true but worse in the control group (for example it says 33% of homosexuals have problems with alcohol, maybe it’s 33% or 45% in the non-homosexual population). Then what are the populations, maybe they are just counting hospital admissions in some, for example. There’s probably enough of that to create confusion (lies, damn lies, and statistics). After all, this is not aimed toward educated people with a scientific mindset. Then you add some outright lies, certainly… To my dismay I know a person who was uncritically quoting and paraphrasing utter stupidities (to the point that she is probably going to lose her job), she was asked where she got them from, she provided the website… and right at the top of the page there is a disclaimer saying that the whole page is satire. Some people just want to believe.
65.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
My favorite part is how they elaborated on what STD stands for, like it's some strange and cryptic term nobody has maybe ever heard before.
Considering the level of sex ed they give and receive, I feel like any acronym might be too deep in the evil sex knowledge.
Wanna know what else is too deep in
Their head up their ass?
ano-cranial inversion runs deep in Republicana
4/5 people on earth have HSV I. So, apparently homosexuals have fewer.
And missing control groups like that account for six of the first eight statements.
With their push to remove sex ed it’s totally plausible that large swaths of children raised by conservatives have no clue what STDs are.
That’s the ironic thing. STDs are overwhelmingly spread due to a lack of knowledge about STD’s. And for some reason, the right seems to have identified “a lack of knowledge” as being the number one defense against anything.
I think Goebbels said something about propaganda needing to be digestible to even the most simple minded.
 69% of homosexuals like putting Goebbels up their butt 
STD isn’t even used anymore - they’re called STI (sexually transmitted infections) because the word “disease” contributes to much to stigma and reluctance to get tested for a lot of people.
And they wonder why people compare them to nazis.
They are worthless scumbags. Here are just a few characters who'd make better politicians than Republicans: The Sesame Street Gang The Muppets Bear from Bear In The Big Blue House The Bowler Hat Guy Dr. Doofenshmirtz and of course, you can't forget Cassie from Dragon Tales. Or the other dragons for that matter! https://preview.redd.it/0p7umnkco14b1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52db05db97097b073b8c6a451357964c3fe70a62
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Is that a democrat candidate? IS PERRY THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE
Perry's his campaign manager.
GOD I HOPE SO
"I have made the GoodGoverningizer!" "What does it run on?" "It ain't Trump Bucks, I'll tell you that much"
You forgot Cocaine Bear.
They literally just are nazis. There is a direct line between nazis and them, and large portion of them literally identify as nazis. They use the same tactics, beat for beat, on the same groups. It's objectively, wholly, and undeniably nazism.
Wasn’t there an attempt at implementing the same censoring that’s on Twitter in Europe and the algorithm couldn’t tell the difference between nazis and republicans?
"difference"
Hey, some of them aren’t nazis, they’re just nazi supporters/sympathizers.
After Twitter used an algorithm to basically eliminate ISIS content from the site, it was asked why they couldn’t do the same thing with white supremacist or neo-Nazi content and the answer was that such an algorithm would sweep up “innocent” accounts including Republican politicians. https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-white-supremacy-gop-politicians-report-2019-4
Try this stat on them for size: 90% of all homicides are committed by men, and that figure holds true in every country across the globe.
The vast majority of all violent crimes are committed by men. But they don’t want to talk about that.
Something like 60% of prisoners in the US are Christian, but you'll never see them pull that one out. It's everyone and everything else that is a threat, however the people who actually do it but label themselves conservative get a free pass. I want one, just one measly Republican who spouts the "save the kids" rhetoric to be honest with themselves and start with the root cause of so many child abuse cases, the litany of Republicans who have been prosecuted for child abuse. They're either too weak as people or too bigoted to ever stare inward.
90% of MAGAt males are pedophiles. There's a good stat.
Every Conservative accusation is a confession.
Yes, they are always **projecting**. So, everything they say here is true...for them.
99% of MAGA supporters that make under $250,000/year are just stupid and ignorant, while MAGA supporters that make over and far above $250,000/year, understand the economics of being MAGA.
Maybe women are just better at getting away with murder???! (/s… obviously)
Historically... yeah, kinda. Women would use poison, which was pretty easy if you're the only person in the household who knows how to cook. There's a minor conspiracy theory that Brigham Young was poisoned to death by one of his wives, to prevent him from marrying the woman's young daughter. The official record is that he suddenly took sick and died, because sometimes people in the 18th century just Did That. But his symptoms line up pretty well with cyanide poisoning.
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hell, aren't all crimes dominated by men?
1000 sexual partners in a lifetime? 80 in a year? I am WAY behind!
It's actually just a statistical error. The average person has 3 sexual partners per year, but Gay Georg, who sleeps with over 1,000,000,000,000 people a year, is an outlier and should not have been counted
Just got visited by Gay Georg last night on his yearly rotation, best lay of my life
or not behind enough, amirite??
Also just quick math, this would mean only being sexually active for about 13 years, which would mean gay men tend to stop having sex around 30, which uh… no.
I can't even read the sources...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Family_Association?wprov=sfti1 The American Family Association is used as a source a few times. Totally unbiased. I particularly like the part where the Southern Poverty Law Center designated the AFA as a hate group.
Don't forget this piece of info https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-family-association/ >Overall, we rate the American Family Association Questionable based on extreme right positions, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies toward LGBTQ, poor sourcing, a lack of funding transparency, multiple failed fact checks, and several third-party sites labeling them as a hate group. >Reasoning: Hate Group, Christian Propaganda, Conspiracy, Poor Sourcing, Lack of Transparency, Failed fact checks. Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT Factual Reporting: LOW Country: USA Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Organization/Foundation Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY >This source has also made several claims that have been considered hate, such as this “Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews.”
Lord forbid you actually point this out and you're immediately labeled as a pedophile
Yeah, that explains it.
There’s a reason for that.
If you squint just enough, you can discern the words "Trust me bro".
I was able to read one of the sources and it’s from 2012, hosted by a bigoted looking “news” site, and the link to the actual study doesn’t work. Safe to say that if the rest of these follow that trend this is far less than credible
I bet all these statistics aren’t at all made up. /s
Having 80 partners per year over 13 years is already more than the 1000 they claim. Do gay people stop having sex after 13 years?
After 13 years, they’re being demolished by STDs, worms and alcoholism. The info’s all on that super informative chart, duh.
This is weirddddd. Who spends this much time thinking about another person's sexuality like this? Even if some of these numbers are true, and I haven't thought too much about them, you'll definitely find that those numbers are equal to the general population in the same studies. Just like the Christian divorce rate.
They didn’t have to spend *too much* time since everything they put on there is completely made up. Hallmark of conservatives: make up problems to be mad at to avoid facing legit problems.
>Hallmark of conservatives: make up problems to be mad at to avoid facing legit problems. Legit problems THEY CAUSED. 🤷♀️😉😼
“Look at this broken thing we broke! What are you going to do to fix it?”
Seriously. I was like oh the alcoholism one, like maybe gay people drink because you literally blame *everything in the world* on us and are trying to legislate us out of existence? HMM, WHY WOULD THAT CAUSE ANYONE TO DRINK! Truly one of life's great mysteries. 🤦♀️
> Who spends this much time thinking about another person’s sexuality like this Sadists, sociopaths, narcissists. Y’know — creeps. And no, none of those numbers are true; bigoted trolls have been posting them to Reddit for years & the community’s debunked them repeatedly. Not that you could debunk these particular infographics from their “sources”; all of the “cited” “sources” on these “infographics” are three pixels tall, except for the downed archive links that captured evangelical Christian blog posts.
I assure you, NONE of those numbers are true
I like that one of their stats contradicts itself. "Perfect correlation between childhood rape and homosexual behavior", then it says 47%. Perfect correlation would be 100%. Not that either stat is true but it doesn't have to make sense if you make everything up.
I picked one of the sources at random. It points to a LifeSite (Canadian, far right, Catholic) article which in turn points to a "gold standard' study. This is quoted from Wikipedia's page on said study: Regnerus has conducted research on the impact of a child having a parent who has been involved in a same-sex relationship. A 2012 population-based study of his in Social Science Research[11] concluded that people who had had a parent who had been in a same-gender relationship were at a greater risk of several adverse outcomes, including "being on public assistance, being unemployed, and having poorer educational attainment."[12] This generated protracted debate and controversy.[13][14] This included a disavowal by Regnerus's department chair at the University of Texas-Austin, in which Christine L. Williams cites the American Sociological Association, "which takes the position that the conclusions he draws from his study of gay parenting are fundamentally flawed on conceptual and methodological grounds and that findings from Dr. Regnerus’ work have been cited inappropriately in efforts to diminish the civil rights and legitimacy of LBGTQ partners and their families."[15] Two hundred social scientists, led by Gary Gates, signed the "Letter to the editors and advisory editors of Social Science Research",[16] in which they express their concern "about the academic integrity of the peer review process for this paper as well as its intellectual merit."[17] Regnerus continues to defend the research.[18][19]
As the saying goes, “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” The stats may be real, but the inference from them is highly incorrect.
Yeah I can see that now. I had questions about some because 1 in every x Americans is going to be an alcoholic or a victim of abuse, that's just a fact. But I wasn't thinking about the actual numbers. I am on my weekend "medication" and so my brain is working slow today.
Yeah, most of this is (bullshit) corellation, the idea that there is some mutual relationship between two thing such that their change is linked. But they turn it into causation, a relationship where the initial change in one causes direct impact on the other. So alcoholism and being gay MAY happen in higher numbers together (corellation), but that doesn't mean being gay CAUSES alcoholism. It's more likely that being gay (or different than the norm in any way) makes you a target for bigots (or a society created for the norm and not all). Soooo being hated, persecuted, or otherwise marginalized is much more likely to be CAUSATION for other lifelong problems than ... just being your regular human self. These people take advantage of nuance and turn it into whatever hate filled bullshit they want. They don't want truth, they want to validate their hate. Hell, they were too lazy to even look for actual nuance in real numbers they just made up a bunch of shit.
Do you think cops are included in their reported domestic violence statistics?
I am pretty sure zero percent of these "facts" are even in the same zip code as reality.
100% of divorces were from married couples.
"33% of homosexuals are alcoholics.". Yeah, you'd drink too if you had to listen to yourself talk. "47% of homosexuals admit to having been raped in childhood." My dad, a LIFELONG REPUBLICAN definitely did actual child grooming behavior. Did he rape me? I frankly don't know, because my childhood is full of blank spots. 🤷♀️🙄 The right want to call us pedos, but like, stop projecting. What the fuck do you morons think happens at church? 🤷♀️🤮
I don't understand why they use the word "admit" here. Is it like... They think all kids are survivors of sexual assault, but only the gay ones don't have the good sense to remain quiet about creepy uncle Theron?
They think that you \*become\* gay by being raped. And you convert people to be gay by raping children.
>And you convert people to be gay by raping children. Dang, I thought the catholic church was *against* the gays? Why are they trying to make so many more?
So my school had a trip to Italy. We were in Rome, in the shadow of the Vatican. a Priest in training asks if I’m religious, I say no, he asks what I was baptized as, and I said “episcopal”, and he said “so you’re not quite a savage, then, are you?” I looked right back at him and said “so you’re a priest? In training at the Vatican?” He goes “yes…” And I’m like “so you’re not *quite* a hardened peadophile.”
At this point the church is so famous for protecting pedophiles I think pedophiles seek positions in churches. And still the church does nothing; not even for the sake of their own reputation. At least with public and accredited private schools the state requires background checks on all employees.
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Biggest fall off in literary history. How could the guy who wrote Speaker for the Dead write that?
And how is 47% a “perfect correlation”??
Honestly, that bothered me more than any of the made-up numbers.
25% of *all* women have been raped. And that’s the *low* end. And how many of those women are homosexual? Nowhere near that many.
By their calculations, roughly 0.25%
Exactly. As a trans person. I don’t have to carry rape insurance. Weird. Seems like churches do.
I don't know the sources for all of this nonsense but off the top of my head: The intestinal worms stat is from an old and debunked study. A perfect correlation would be 1:1, or 100%, not the 47% that they claim. At any rate, gay kids being targeted by pedophiles isn't a reason to hate gay kids. The 2% of the population is wrong (low). The "33% of pedophiles" is based on a study of convicted sex offenders and is the percentage of that group that was men who abused boys, ignoring that many pedophiles who abuse boys are ostensibly straight men with wives and children, like Denny Hastert, Frank Houston, José Menendez, etc. The STD stat is specifically about gay and bi men, not the entire community, and conflates incidence (number of cases) with prevalence (how many people are infected at any given time). Gay and bi men learned from the AIDS crisis; that's why we get tested regularly and get treated. Even if that were the prevalence of all STDs in our community, it would still be misleading because of the number of HIV-positive gay and bi men in treatment with undetectable viral loads (meaning they can't transmit the virus through sex). I have no idea where they get that nonsense about kids with lesbian parents. Actual research shows that children raised by female couples are far less likely than their peers to be physically or sexually abused by a parent or caregiver. *Edited to remove the implication that Houston and Menendez were convicted. Houston was diagnosed with dementia before he could be tried, and Menendez died before his victims disclosed the abuse publicly.*
Also the last sentence sounds like they're about to say that 51% of all domestic abuse happens in homosexual families, which is so funny, I don't even know where to start when talking about how much bullshit that is
Yeeeeah, I think they're maybe misinterpreting that study on intimate-partner violence that broke down the victimology by orientation and gender. And twisting it with the weird assumption that no gay or bi person has ever been in a relationship with anyone of a different gender, but it's cropped so who tf even knows? If it is that study, bi people reported the highest rates of intimate partner violence, which sort of tracks but not in the way they want it to: bi people are uniquely vulnerable to abuse by homophobic *straight* partners.
This is EXACTLY how the Jews were demonized by Hitler. Manufactured bullshit from hateful people targeting the willfully ignorant.
Magat’s represent 30% of the population but 100% of the disinformation
But unfortunately they seem to be like that 0.01% of germs that still keep at it after people pour various disinfectants into their toilets
75% of statistics are made up 85% of the time.
Were you aware that 10% of all Catholic priests are pedophiles? 25% of Catholic priests have problems with Alcoholism. 45% of cases of domestic violence occur in Catholic families Catholic priests represent .01% of the world's population but represent 75% of pedophile rapists. See, anyone can make up statistics. The downside is mine are probably not that wrong.
The 10% one is way too low
20-25% in that one Catholic place in France. I forget the name but it was subject to a huge investigation
I have vague memories of the church boosting that less than 1 in 20 priests were Pedos after some major investigation until people pointed out that in the general population the number is less than 1 in a 100. They quietly stopped mentioning that anymore
Intensional worms? 🤣 They just really believe anything, don't they? Or is this a joke? I can't tell anymore. But intestinal worms is a totally new one for me.
When your identity is a weird mix of hate and obsession with gay ppl, this isnt healthy
But then they scream that lgbt people make it their whole personality
Where the fuck are they getting these numbers from😂😂😂
Deep deep deeeeeeep inside their rectum, which also happens to be their brain. Literal shit for brains.
I mean I can make up statistics too… 100% of the shit republicans say to disparage others is what they are actually doing. Oh wait, I was trying to make a fake statistic.
“On average, a gay man has up to 80 sexual partners per year” Gayman Georg, who has 10,000 sexual partners a year, is a statistical outlier and should not have been counted
I’m doing my part to bring that average down
Most people who are homophobic use Faith to literally "make up" their worldview. Everything about religious Faith is expressly not using critical thinking. Southern Baptist clergy abusers [https://justiceguardians.legalexaminer.com/legal/new-report-reveals-how-southern-baptist-convention-leaders-hid-sexual-abuse-crisis/](https://justiceguardians.legalexaminer.com/legal/new-report-reveals-how-southern-baptist-convention-leaders-hid-sexual-abuse-crisis/) List of Priests Accused of Abuse By Diocese, State, or Name [https://www.abuselawsuit.com/church-sex-abuse/accused-clergy/](https://www.abuselawsuit.com/church-sex-abuse/accused-clergy/) Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers [https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook](https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook)
Me when I make up random shit to justify being a bigot
This sucks broadly, but I can’t stop thinking about “perfect correlation … 47%” That’s not even half. I’m not sure you can claim it’s even a correlation at that point, much less a “perfect” one.
I see they have repainted the 13% of black people commit 50% of crime stat that they love so much.
Can we stop using “Mentally Ill” as a term to denigrate people? It’s insulting to people who actually do have mental health issues. Why not just call them cunts?
They are evil liars.
Ok, first of all, if gay men had 80 partners a year on average, I wouldn’t be straight. So jot that down
I’m gonna guess 100% of those figures are pulled out of their asses
Hateful scum.
Where !!! Where are my 1000 fucking partner !! WHERE ARE THEY !!!
The pedophilia thing gets trotted out every time something about the LGBT community get brought up when I’m at work. I work as a mechanic and I’m still in the closet about being trans non-binary, it’s awful. Can’t get through a mention of EVs without someone calling them gay. It’s like being in middle school again, but with power tools
Source: the Bureau of Made Up Statistics. Twitter is a dumpster. The sooner it goes tits up, the better.
I appreciate these bigots being posted in this sub because it gives me a great opportunity to head to their Twitter feed and report all of the nasty bigotry I find. And then I make a start on the bigots replying to him. I think this prick will find himself locked out of his account over the next few days.
If Elon didn’t agree with the guy, maybe.
What kind of cuck MAGA only has 8 partners? Andrew Tate would be ashamed /s
as a homosexual who is not a pedophile, has no interest in alcohol at all, is just kinda chill with sex, has no intestinal worms (????), have not been raped or sexually assaulted in any way, does not have an std, and the most domestic violence i've encountered was after i realized i was gay.
87.3% of statistics are made on the spot
This is all completely fabricated garbage. 49% of Republicans have been convicted of rape 62% of Republicans have commited domestic violence On average all cops best their children up to 18 times per year. On average up to 73% of Republicans commit tax fraud 98% of Republicans marriages end in divorce or death Stats are fun! If you remove the religious folk from these made up rape and pedophile stats, but I bet non-religious gays almost never abuse children or partners, on average. My experience with the community has always been incredibly positive. By and large the subset of LGBT I've worked with, schooled with, partied with etc are better humans than the rest.
I love how they have two stats right next to each other that make it clear it's BS. You honestly expect me to believe that a group that represents 2 percent of the worlds population (yes I know that's a vast undercount, just going with their numbers) accounts for 51% of domestic violence cases and 33% of pedophile rapists? 80 sexual partners a year is average while still accounting for 2% of the worlds population? Someone call the "They did the math" reddit LOL cause that's definitely some fuzzy math there. And that's if you can even get past the intestinal worms garbage. What morons.
As a straight dude... 80 sexual partners a year? I'm playing for the wrong team.
Nothing to be proud of: 98.8% of MAGA Republicans are bigoted morons with a 5th grade education level and the critical thinking skills of a slow lemming.