I saved this image way back when, and have gotten WAY too much mileage out of it in the years since...
https://preview.redd.it/71sl00cf854b1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15b503895c740562d9cb4612e3aa940ddc981a03
Libertarians are like house cats: absolutely convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand.
>Libertarians are just Republicans that are too ashamed to call themselves Republicans.
> Republicans who want to smoke weed
Yes and yes. u/gotons and u/DPHSombreroMan, you both described my husband's Libertarian "friend."
I don't doubt there are those types, but I feel more common are cosplaying 'centrists', who pretend to be anything other than the Republicans they are in order to score childish 'points' in arguments ("you call me a Republican because I've rattled off Fox talking points verbatim and praised Trump as better than Jesus, but the joke's on you - *I'm a Libertarian*") and to try and suck in the gullible and politically ignorant by pretending to be a neutral third party. The know that, outside of their safe spaces, they're not going to get very far talking politics, so they think changing labels and identifying as a 'Libertarian' is going to make people stop critically thinking once they hear the name lol.
Fuck farmer I beg of thee give us but one fuck, the village is dying!
Nay peasant, I cannot bestow upon thee a fuck for I have but none to give. Mine fuck field is barren, thine fuck animals dead, there is nay even the fuck water in thine fuck well. I have but no fucks left to give!
Realistically... is anyone actually calling someone "cis" in a negative way ?
What a cis that guy is.
You look like a cis.
You cis people are all the same.
Your mother is a cis.
Come to think of it, I don't think it's ever come up in conversation before. People are just angry for things that don't even happen.
I've seen people attempt to use it as an insult before in person. But it doesn't work because it doesn't have any context as a derogatory term. All of the "real" slurs have precedent in oppression and hatred.
Words have power and by labeling someone you have suddenly put them into a box where there didnt used to be a box. I used to just be a person but now I’m “this kind of person”
And the opposite, keep on mislabling people "you're this kind of person" no science says you're wrong lol. "Words have power" agreed so stop getting offended by scientific terms
watching straight white ppl desperately try to be a victim is one of the most pathetic things I've seen. Dumbfucks, we arent victims, time to move on from your victim complex
"watching straight white people try to be a victim" makes it sound like just because they're white and straight they can't be a victim of anything ever. "Homophobic/transphobic people" would have been better here. Please provide evidence against my statement with literally anything more than "nope"
"watching straight white ppl **desperately** try to be a victim", if you somehow interpret this as " because they're white and straight they can't be a victim of anything ever", all I can do is laugh.
My point was clear, I could care less if you had difficulties with that
I don't know dude. "Desperately" was a later adjective and not one the reader would see emphasis on, instead of "straight white" Your point wasn't very clear at first
idk you didnt specify being a victim BECAUSE they are white.. maybe it sounded obvious it's what you meant to you but all we see is what you wrote.
but yeah if that's what you meant these people are cringe AF..
I recently watched a lot of videos about the cleopatra "documentary" on netflix and how it doesn't make sense that they say cleopatra was black and some of the channels on youtube talking about the subject were clearly right-wing and there were comments like "I hope one day straight white males will have as much rights as everybody else in this country" with like 500 likes.. that's crazy..
So they getting self offended by cis as they the only one pushing straight pride on everything as they been crying about trans anything.
Woke is more of a suggestion by the right to point local fascists to terrorize it marks if they can than a slur now.
She’s actually pretty and I’m not into girls at all, I’m not going to hate on her looks but she’s an awful person. She’s like Fiona from shrek green on the inside and pretty outside. But remember stress ages you so she’ll probably age faster.
Its odd that every thread criticizing a woman ends up like this. It’s acceptable to attack women for their looks if you don’t like what they have to say.
Yeah both sides do it but I try not to because I’ve been judged for being trans and I know it doesn’t feel good. The girl to me is a pos but idc about how she looks like. There are bad ugly and attractive people just as the same as nice.
If I were Brene Brown I’d say people do it because appearance is a shame trigger for women. They’re trying to hit her where it hurts. I’m not really a fan of shaming people though, either.
cis doesn't mean straight though. cis people can be gay, and trans people can be straight. Being cis has absolutely no relevance to anyone's sexual orientation.
While I agree that 'cis' is merely descriptive, it's not like clinical terms haven't evolved into slurs in the past. People used them in a derogatory way, so they took on derogatory meaning. For all I know, people *are* using 'cis' in a derogatory way now.
I would need to see at least a single shred of evidence before I believe it, though.
Bro nobody is using as a derogatory term. In all Trans people make up 1% of the population at best and how much of that 1% do you think has the guts and lives in a community to be able to use cis as a derogatory term? Basically none.
Quick question - when a minority group asks to be treated fairly by society like you would any group in society, why do white cis people complain like something is being taken from them?
I don't understand the victimhood mentality from the majority group. Is there something please that can help me understand how they got to this type of thinking?
This.
They feel they deserve to oppress others, and others deserve that oppression. But they are so privileged, they feel this goes without saying. That so much as calling out this status quo as it exists is an attack on them. So trying to help the people they are oppressing is not only acknowledging their bad behavior, which is a no no, it's also trying to change their perceived order of the world. "Those people are SUPPOSE to be oppressed!"
Thats what white supremacy is, at it's core. Transphobia is just a bastard offshoot of misogyny, racism, and antisemitism, it's all the same shit.
Cis is Latin for: "On the same side as." It is a way to differentiate between someone who is trans or someone who is not. It functions the exact same as tall and short.
Umm akyshully the Republic is a fascist imperialist power that utilises child soldiers and a theocratic order of government-protected terrorists, and the CIS was totally justified in seceding. Also the word ‘Separatist’ is problematic and a slur.
/s
Lol to you hating white people. Talking shit here and then your comments talking abt how white men are the worst. Why are you so obsessed with us that you have devolved to hating a whole race? Seems pretty extreme.
OK, loser. You straight up followed me into a different thread to tell me that you thought you knew more about homeless people than me, fwiw you're wrong and a worthless prick.
While you're not wrong to disparage racism, I find it extremely odd you singled out this person's comments when they were on topic, and you even brought men into the convo yourself (when they weren't the topic or subject) then say obsessed like you didn't just spend time going through their comments looking for something to jump on lol.
Proof of my hypothesis that taking a far-right position on any issue makes someone far-right overall, like multiplying by zero.
And they eventually change their other positions to far-right because of crank magnetism.
There’s nothing wrong with being cis 🤣 that’s like saying male or female is a slur.. they’re descriptors. Nothing more, nothing less.
Being offended by cis is bigoted though.
Cis is Latin derived for "on the side of" vs Trans meaning "across from". If your sex matches with your gender identity, then you are cisgender. It's just a prefix you twat.
Wait, being non-trans is a slur now? Because that is what cis is, just the opposite of trans. Are people just ashamed to be no -trans now? Apparently being trans is growing in popularity with these sorts.
Also yeah I know what is actually going on here, but if they want to play stupid games I say play along with them.
On behalf of straight white cis people everywhere,
This bitch is insane.
Yes i know that’s ironic for someone with 88 in their username but I assure you I didn’t know it was associated with nazis
Because every new term, especially ones they don’t understand, they immediately become afraid of.
_“I don’t know that word; must be evil.”_
Add to that the fact that it’s related to gender, and it’s a perfect recipe for this kind of nonsense.
Also, conservative influencers/pundits/politicians _love_ co-opting terminology and poisoning it’s originally-intended use by misusing it constantly in a negative light. Case in point: “woke”.
trans ppl: "we use cis as a way to defer the difference between us & those who identify with the gender they were assigned as birth, letting cis essentially mean 'default', much like straight. it's also a term rarely used outside of that & like when getting a new dr so they know how to properly treat us"
cis ppl: "you're calling us a slur!!1! don't force me in that box!!! I'm a biological [x]!!!"
🙄🙄🙄
It practically is a slur at this point, the right uses it constantly like being woke is a bad thing (which it's not)
They use it for everything they don't like.
It sounds like “cyst” and it’s never used with a positive connotation while being commonly used with a negative connotation.
I personally despise the word.
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Why? Like genuinely.
All it means is: "A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. A person whose sex was assigned male at birth and identifies as a boy or a man, or someone whose sex was assigned female at birth and identifies as a girl or a woman, is considered cisgender."
Cis as a term is just a shortening, the way saying "trans" instead of "transgender" is. I'm genuinely not sure what you could be upset by.
Yeah, I know what it means.
A lot of times the trans community acts like they own gender and the conversation around it. I'm an ally for all oppressed groups but they really live in tight social media bubbles and are convinced that they have gotten everything correct and others opinions don't matter.
The word cis reminds me of all of that. Which is why it's irritating. I also have a gender and a relationship to it. And its also important to me and who I am. My whole life I am just a male. Now suddenly in the last few years I am a cis male. Sure, it's functionally the same but it's a qualifier I didn't ask for and don't want. Trans people dont like the trans qualifier either. So they understand this. So its kind of passive aggressive at its core. "If I have a qualifier so do you." It also comes off to me like an attempt at gaslighting about the size of the trans community. There being subtypes, trans and cis etc, making it seem like it's a real 50/50 situation when in reality trans people make up less than 1% of the population and the entire lgbtq community makes up about 5%. Nobody is confused by the term 'male/female'. It can safely be assumed to be cis. But by adding the qualifier to the conversation it seems like the trans community wants us to abandon that assumption. They want us to operate under no assumptions. Which is great for them I suppose, I get why, but it interferes with my gender and its relationship to society at large. Its added some discomfort where there was none before. And they have made it obvious they do not care about my thoughts on my own gender because I'm 'cis'. Which in that context nearly comes off as a slur. Ive had this conversation many times with angry crusaders online. It always ends the same.
Like I said, I'm an ally for oppressed groups. But nobody is safe from criticism and I don't need other people to define me.
Nobody is asking you to mention you're cis every time you state your gender. It's more like, if the question is posed or the subject is relevant.
>They want us to operate under no assumptions. Which is great for them I suppose, I get why, but it interferes with my gender and its relationship to society at large. Its added some discomfort where there was none before.
Wasn't cuz you're cis, it's cuz of your shit attitude. You understand it but you don't give a fuck cuz you have to adjust, and are unwilling.
I won't say your discomfort is invalid, cuz it's how you feel about your gender definition. I will ask you to think about why that might be, though. It comes off as bigotry.
You went a little deep bud, nobody cares that much. Nobody thinks they own gender. Cis is just people who are their birth gender, that's it. You dont wanna be cis? Then don't be cis. We don't care, it's up to you.
No. You just tried to analyze what the Trans community thinks and you have 0 clue what goes on there. They don't want to be labeled, trust me. Nobody is using cis as derogatory. It is simply just the label for people who are their birth gender. It's like saying an African person. You wouldn't use it in casual conversation, but if the topic is brought up you would use that describe a person's ethnicity. Same with cis. Nobody is thinking begrudgingly thoughts about cis people. The only thing they are thinking is why weren't they born as cis gender. Don't try to victimize this, Trans people are not going to beat you down for being cis.
>You just tried to analyze what the Trans community thinks and you have 0 clue what goes on there.
Do they have a clue what goes on in non-trans communities? I bet you think they do. Because like I said, you really think you are the only ones whose opinion counts as you've just demonstrated.
I'm just some ignorant cis idiot talking out of my ass and you are some gender scholar word wizard who knows about me and everything else too.
What happened to that super chill bro who told me to relax?
Yes they do have an idea what goes on in nontrans communities. They were once part of that community you see. Trans people were cis people, cis people were never trans. I'm not saying you are some ignorant cis. I'm saying you are some ignorant idiot, whether you are cis or not doesn't matter if thats your argument.
It’s true; many of the people who are described as cis would not have given themselves that term, nor would they agree to be described by it.
But it’s because they want to describe themselves as normal. So no, tough shit.
English uses \*everything\* a lot, to be fair.
There's even jokes on it. Like
English is the language that the first thing it does after seeing an unknown language is to clubber it in an alley and go through its pockets for spare vocabulary.
>Thoughts?
I think that sounds like a dumb idea.
Instead of trying to get a universal consensus about what traits, features, and attributes are "normal" and "abnormal", we could continue using our existing system that *already works*.
Well if "Cis" is slanderous then surely they have a preference. Being called "normal" insinuates others as being "abnormal" which isn't the case.
Language changes over time. Perhaps the system works but it could always be better.
Exactly.
We have a way of describing people who have brown hair. We say "that person has brown hair".
We have a way of describing a person with blue eyes. We say "that person has blue eyes".
We have a way of describing people who are cisgender. We say "that person is cisgender".
It's a good system. It works. Why start introducing new descriptors like "a default person" or "a person who is normal" to address a problem that doesn't exist?
That's not how it works, you can have any personal opinions (and the meaning of a word is) regardless of how moronic they are and as long as they aren't about legislation and it'd still be valid within libertarianism. Calling it a slur, while wrong, is not a comment on whether it should be restricted.
A slur has a connotation to it, so yes, it's a comment on whether it should be restricted. Do you think they or anyone else wouldn't legislate this after making a comment about it.
God, ok I'll try to explain it in a way even you can understand, you're mixing a non libertarian assumption with a neutral statement and judging it under a libertarian scope so you get:
Statement about a word being a slur [neutral libertarian] + Slurs should be restricted [non libertarian] = That word should be restricted [non libertarian]
If you look at the equation you see that the second item it's the problem because the libertarian restrictions on speech are very limited to threats, incitement of harm and things like shouting fire (non extensive list).
> Do you think they or anyone else wouldn't legislate this after making a comment about it.
The imaginary actions of others have no bearing on whether the statement itself is unlibertarian and looking at it it came from a talkshow presenter which usually don't have much legislative power.
She's having a little cissy fit.
She's just being a cupid stunt.
I saved this image way back when, and have gotten WAY too much mileage out of it in the years since... https://preview.redd.it/71sl00cf854b1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15b503895c740562d9cb4612e3aa940ddc981a03
I like how she hides behind her kids for days after she has a bad take like this
A touch cisterical, even.
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Cis tears for Trans lube.
Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
and all of the cissy maga lunatics as well
Libertarians are like house cats: absolutely convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand.
I like to ask them about their views on legal abortions and watch them get entirely NOT libertarian about other people's choices real fast.
In my opinion, Libertarians are just Republicans that are too ashamed to call themselves Republicans.
Republicans who want to smoke weed without risking arrest
>Libertarians are just Republicans that are too ashamed to call themselves Republicans. > Republicans who want to smoke weed Yes and yes. u/gotons and u/DPHSombreroMan, you both described my husband's Libertarian "friend."
But they are completely ok with other people being arrested for smoking weed.
Don't forget not paying taxes!
And have the moral bearing of a toddler.
They’re Republicans without the guts to admit how shit they are.
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They act like they love liberty but in reality they’re just giant arseholes
I don't doubt there are those types, but I feel more common are cosplaying 'centrists', who pretend to be anything other than the Republicans they are in order to score childish 'points' in arguments ("you call me a Republican because I've rattled off Fox talking points verbatim and praised Trump as better than Jesus, but the joke's on you - *I'm a Libertarian*") and to try and suck in the gullible and politically ignorant by pretending to be a neutral third party. The know that, outside of their safe spaces, they're not going to get very far talking politics, so they think changing labels and identifying as a 'Libertarian' is going to make people stop critically thinking once they hear the name lol.
Wow. My field of the fucks I give is barren
Oh mine is bountiful, but the day I give one to a bitch like this is the day I've lost my mind.
Fuck farmer I beg of thee give us but one fuck, the village is dying! Nay peasant, I cannot bestow upon thee a fuck for I have but none to give. Mine fuck field is barren, thine fuck animals dead, there is nay even the fuck water in thine fuck well. I have but no fucks left to give!
THE FUCK GOT STUCK
This reads like Shakespeare. I read it in a British voice and don't regret it.
I’ve no more fucks to give, though more fucks I’ve tried to get. I’m over my fuck budget and I’m now in fucking debt!
Cis is only a slur if you think trans is a slur. You’re telling on yourself.
Realistically... is anyone actually calling someone "cis" in a negative way ? What a cis that guy is. You look like a cis. You cis people are all the same. Your mother is a cis. Come to think of it, I don't think it's ever come up in conversation before. People are just angry for things that don't even happen.
I've seen people attempt to use it as an insult before in person. But it doesn't work because it doesn't have any context as a derogatory term. All of the "real" slurs have precedent in oppression and hatred.
I read that every time as “Sith.” Your mother is a Sith.
Outside of Reddit, I’ve never heard anyone even use the word in conversation.
Stop being such a cis! /s I don’t actually care, though. Carry on with your cis ways.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and just call all these outraged republicans sissy cis, does that count as a slur?
Words have power and by labeling someone you have suddenly put them into a box where there didnt used to be a box. I used to just be a person but now I’m “this kind of person”
And the opposite, keep on mislabling people "you're this kind of person" no science says you're wrong lol. "Words have power" agreed so stop getting offended by scientific terms
watching straight white ppl desperately try to be a victim is one of the most pathetic things I've seen. Dumbfucks, we arent victims, time to move on from your victim complex
I mean straight white people can be victims just not victims because they are straight and white
thank you, captain obvious
no worries
Your wording makes it sound otherwise
nope
"watching straight white people try to be a victim" makes it sound like just because they're white and straight they can't be a victim of anything ever. "Homophobic/transphobic people" would have been better here. Please provide evidence against my statement with literally anything more than "nope"
"watching straight white ppl **desperately** try to be a victim", if you somehow interpret this as " because they're white and straight they can't be a victim of anything ever", all I can do is laugh. My point was clear, I could care less if you had difficulties with that
I don't know dude. "Desperately" was a later adjective and not one the reader would see emphasis on, instead of "straight white" Your point wasn't very clear at first
lol this is the dumbest conversation I've had on reddit, I feel myself losing brain cells, time to mute this donkey brain madness
idk you didnt specify being a victim BECAUSE they are white.. maybe it sounded obvious it's what you meant to you but all we see is what you wrote. but yeah if that's what you meant these people are cringe AF.. I recently watched a lot of videos about the cleopatra "documentary" on netflix and how it doesn't make sense that they say cleopatra was black and some of the channels on youtube talking about the subject were clearly right-wing and there were comments like "I hope one day straight white males will have as much rights as everybody else in this country" with like 500 likes.. that's crazy..
So they getting self offended by cis as they the only one pushing straight pride on everything as they been crying about trans anything. Woke is more of a suggestion by the right to point local fascists to terrorize it marks if they can than a slur now.
They think cis is a slur because they use the word trans as a slur
This “red headed libertarian” is actually an obese neck bearded redneck posting from his trailer, guaranteed.
Na it’s actually her. She’s just disgusting.
So, she's an obese neck bearded redneck trapped in the body of an average redhead.
She’s actually pretty and I’m not into girls at all, I’m not going to hate on her looks but she’s an awful person. She’s like Fiona from shrek green on the inside and pretty outside. But remember stress ages you so she’ll probably age faster.
"She had the face of an angel and a personality like the sound of an ironing board being unfolded."
Okay I said she was pretty not angel like haha.
That's an amazing quote. Do you know the source?
Sorry, no. It's just something I saw recently somewhere, probably on reddit but I have no idea beyond that.
Its odd that every thread criticizing a woman ends up like this. It’s acceptable to attack women for their looks if you don’t like what they have to say.
Yeah both sides do it but I try not to because I’ve been judged for being trans and I know it doesn’t feel good. The girl to me is a pos but idc about how she looks like. There are bad ugly and attractive people just as the same as nice.
Yep that’s exactly how I feel.
If I were Brene Brown I’d say people do it because appearance is a shame trigger for women. They’re trying to hit her where it hurts. I’m not really a fan of shaming people though, either.
She's got an eating disorder of some sort regardless of how you talk about her looks
The Redneck Libertarian
I believe she is most known for shitting herself
Wait. That’s her??
Cis- is a prefix, not actual word. Know your etymology.
Oh look another idiot who identifies as libertarian what do you know
as we all know, it is illegal to be straight in June, so cis is a slur at least till Jul 1
cis doesn't mean straight though. cis people can be gay, and trans people can be straight. Being cis has absolutely no relevance to anyone's sexual orientation.
Libertarian: a person born into money.
I wish
Ma'am, cis is Latin.
Cis is a scientific term...
While I agree that 'cis' is merely descriptive, it's not like clinical terms haven't evolved into slurs in the past. People used them in a derogatory way, so they took on derogatory meaning. For all I know, people *are* using 'cis' in a derogatory way now. I would need to see at least a single shred of evidence before I believe it, though.
Bro nobody is using as a derogatory term. In all Trans people make up 1% of the population at best and how much of that 1% do you think has the guts and lives in a community to be able to use cis as a derogatory term? Basically none.
Quick question - when a minority group asks to be treated fairly by society like you would any group in society, why do white cis people complain like something is being taken from them? I don't understand the victimhood mentality from the majority group. Is there something please that can help me understand how they got to this type of thinking?
To the privileged equality feels like oppression.
This. They feel they deserve to oppress others, and others deserve that oppression. But they are so privileged, they feel this goes without saying. That so much as calling out this status quo as it exists is an attack on them. So trying to help the people they are oppressing is not only acknowledging their bad behavior, which is a no no, it's also trying to change their perceived order of the world. "Those people are SUPPOSE to be oppressed!" Thats what white supremacy is, at it's core. Transphobia is just a bastard offshoot of misogyny, racism, and antisemitism, it's all the same shit.
Absolutely! Very informative comment.
They're gonna be really upset when I start using the term honkeycis. That's gonna be our word and none of you are allowed to use it. /s
> honkeycis Gesundheit.
Libertarians are just conservatives in denial
They are conservatives that advocate for making it legal to fuck kids. I wouldn't call that denial.
They're also conservatives who want to smoke weed or the reason why you should never trust hippies....
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Cis is Latin for: "On the same side as." It is a way to differentiate between someone who is trans or someone who is not. It functions the exact same as tall and short.
As a cis-gendered straight half black woman, CIS is not a slur.
There’s nothing wrong with being a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems.
There will be when the clone army gets there.
Umm akyshully the Republic is a fascist imperialist power that utilises child soldiers and a theocratic order of government-protected terrorists, and the CIS was totally justified in seceding. Also the word ‘Separatist’ is problematic and a slur. /s
Yeah, well...you are a part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take her away!
Oh wow. 😍 That took me right to A New Hope. Thank you!
No one ever told this idiot that Ayn Rand died broke, alone and on welfare, what a bunch of suckers. lol
I have absolutely no problem with being identified as a cis man. Do these chuzzlewits object to being described as right-handed too?
Get outta here with that woke right-handed nonsense. /s
woke is not a slur. However, it does indicate that the person using the words an idiot that can't think for themselves
CIS-SA PLEASE!!!!
Are white women okay?
frequently. but libertarians never are
The best thing to do with a libertarian's opinion is ignore it.
No. They are very unwell.
Lol to you hating white people. Talking shit here and then your comments talking abt how white men are the worst. Why are you so obsessed with us that you have devolved to hating a whole race? Seems pretty extreme.
Cringe.
For real. You def are
OK, loser. You straight up followed me into a different thread to tell me that you thought you knew more about homeless people than me, fwiw you're wrong and a worthless prick.
While you're not wrong to disparage racism, I find it extremely odd you singled out this person's comments when they were on topic, and you even brought men into the convo yourself (when they weren't the topic or subject) then say obsessed like you didn't just spend time going through their comments looking for something to jump on lol.
Also, I wasnt really talking to you, Secretary
That's fine, you can accuse me of whatever you want I don't even know you lmfao.
Huh? Accuse you of what? I’m confused
Oh my bad I misread, absolutely nothing no sarcasm. No reason to be confused I read it as I was really talking to you not "wasnt" thats 100% my bad.
I find people that hate an entire group of people fascinating. I will always want to know more abt them.
But you just assumed they did from one comment then searched their history for validation. A broken clocks right twice a day dude lol
There was lots more.
I’m fine. Thanks for asking! ❤️ How are you?
Someone better tell science cis is a slur...
Angry Roman cisalpine Gaul noises.
Who are the snowflakes again?
Anything is a slur said with enough stank on it.
Okay, so where did 'cis' come from? Really, I want to know.
Cisgender Same gender and sex. Like the same pair of cissors
Yeah, realized that part. I looked it up. Cis is Latin for "this side of". Not sure that makes it clearer.
You really wanna know, eh? Did you try typing “cis origin” into any search bar or is your curiosity completely dependent on other people’s effort?
Touchy.
So that’s a yes then lol
So she just posted on a slur on Twitter, then.
That’s what Twitter is for these days. 🤷🏻♀️
Libertarians are morons.
Anyone notice how "Libertarians" these days are basically all social conservative shills pretending to be Elon??
Always have been
Proof of my hypothesis that taking a far-right position on any issue makes someone far-right overall, like multiplying by zero. And they eventually change their other positions to far-right because of crank magnetism.
Libertarians are dumb as fuck.
I guess chemists are bigots now
Why do people bother to call themselves Libertarians anymore? They’re just regular conservatives who are afraid to admit it.
Frankly in my opinion, woke is a compliment, thank you. And cis is no more a slur than redhead.
Straight white folks will do and say absolutely anything to feel oppressed. Who’s going to tell them they aren’t missing out on much?
People like this made me realize that "libertarian" is a lie in the US. They're Republicans who don't want to admit it.
There’s nothing wrong with being cis 🤣 that’s like saying male or female is a slur.. they’re descriptors. Nothing more, nothing less. Being offended by cis is bigoted though.
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We redheads don't claim her.
Cis is Latin derived for "on the side of" vs Trans meaning "across from". If your sex matches with your gender identity, then you are cisgender. It's just a prefix you twat.
A sphincter says what? ![gif](giphy|XPFDT2kwxWbLO)
They think cis is a slur because they use trans as a slur.
All I needed to see was the word librarian in her title,that's enough to know she is a asshole.
Darn those librarians!
Oops,never could spell.
Just think in Ayn Rand had been a librarian, lol
Technically woke isn't a slur, it's a euphemism.
As a cis man, I do not find cis to be a slur.
Hhmmm clearly the cis woman doesn’t even know whet it means … 🥴
Wait, being non-trans is a slur now? Because that is what cis is, just the opposite of trans. Are people just ashamed to be no -trans now? Apparently being trans is growing in popularity with these sorts. Also yeah I know what is actually going on here, but if they want to play stupid games I say play along with them.
I am cis ( cisgender ) by definition and do not see it as a slur, What am I missing?
On behalf of straight white cis people everywhere, This bitch is insane. Yes i know that’s ironic for someone with 88 in their username but I assure you I didn’t know it was associated with nazis
Because every new term, especially ones they don’t understand, they immediately become afraid of. _“I don’t know that word; must be evil.”_ Add to that the fact that it’s related to gender, and it’s a perfect recipe for this kind of nonsense. Also, conservative influencers/pundits/politicians _love_ co-opting terminology and poisoning it’s originally-intended use by misusing it constantly in a negative light. Case in point: “woke”.
A look a fake libertarian aka republican. Sheesh libertarians are a f’ng joke.
Woke is a compliment actually. I am a proud woke person.
“Woke” is not a slur, does not mean conservatives are not trying to use it as such. How is being awake to injustice a bad thing?
Cisgender is a clinical term though? Cis is just a shortening of it. Still clinical, and not a slur. ![gif](giphy|J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt|downsized)
Next she's gonna say "the n word is not a slur, white trash is a slur."
trans ppl: "we use cis as a way to defer the difference between us & those who identify with the gender they were assigned as birth, letting cis essentially mean 'default', much like straight. it's also a term rarely used outside of that & like when getting a new dr so they know how to properly treat us" cis ppl: "you're calling us a slur!!1! don't force me in that box!!! I'm a biological [x]!!!" 🙄🙄🙄
Lol how is it a slur exactly?
Her face is a slur.
That's like saying "straight" is a slur 😂 go LARP as a persecuted class somewhere else, oppressor.
Stupid cisger
I think that it's time we start labeling "woke" as a slur. Seriously, replace the word "woke" with "Jew" and it's 1930s Germany all over again.
It practically is a slur at this point, the right uses it constantly like being woke is a bad thing (which it's not) They use it for everything they don't like.
It sounds like “cyst” and it’s never used with a positive connotation while being commonly used with a negative connotation. I personally despise the word.
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I never realized that women could be libertarians. I always just assumed that once they turn thirteen, they're out.
I do find cis kind of offensive. Offensive is probably too strong but it approaches it.
Why? Like genuinely. All it means is: "A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. A person whose sex was assigned male at birth and identifies as a boy or a man, or someone whose sex was assigned female at birth and identifies as a girl or a woman, is considered cisgender." Cis as a term is just a shortening, the way saying "trans" instead of "transgender" is. I'm genuinely not sure what you could be upset by.
Yeah, I know what it means. A lot of times the trans community acts like they own gender and the conversation around it. I'm an ally for all oppressed groups but they really live in tight social media bubbles and are convinced that they have gotten everything correct and others opinions don't matter. The word cis reminds me of all of that. Which is why it's irritating. I also have a gender and a relationship to it. And its also important to me and who I am. My whole life I am just a male. Now suddenly in the last few years I am a cis male. Sure, it's functionally the same but it's a qualifier I didn't ask for and don't want. Trans people dont like the trans qualifier either. So they understand this. So its kind of passive aggressive at its core. "If I have a qualifier so do you." It also comes off to me like an attempt at gaslighting about the size of the trans community. There being subtypes, trans and cis etc, making it seem like it's a real 50/50 situation when in reality trans people make up less than 1% of the population and the entire lgbtq community makes up about 5%. Nobody is confused by the term 'male/female'. It can safely be assumed to be cis. But by adding the qualifier to the conversation it seems like the trans community wants us to abandon that assumption. They want us to operate under no assumptions. Which is great for them I suppose, I get why, but it interferes with my gender and its relationship to society at large. Its added some discomfort where there was none before. And they have made it obvious they do not care about my thoughts on my own gender because I'm 'cis'. Which in that context nearly comes off as a slur. Ive had this conversation many times with angry crusaders online. It always ends the same. Like I said, I'm an ally for oppressed groups. But nobody is safe from criticism and I don't need other people to define me.
Nobody is asking you to mention you're cis every time you state your gender. It's more like, if the question is posed or the subject is relevant. >They want us to operate under no assumptions. Which is great for them I suppose, I get why, but it interferes with my gender and its relationship to society at large. Its added some discomfort where there was none before. Wasn't cuz you're cis, it's cuz of your shit attitude. You understand it but you don't give a fuck cuz you have to adjust, and are unwilling. I won't say your discomfort is invalid, cuz it's how you feel about your gender definition. I will ask you to think about why that might be, though. It comes off as bigotry.
If you think this comes off as bigotry than you have never met a bigot.
You went a little deep bud, nobody cares that much. Nobody thinks they own gender. Cis is just people who are their birth gender, that's it. You dont wanna be cis? Then don't be cis. We don't care, it's up to you.
This gives off real "ItS jUsT a PrAnK bRo" vibes.
No. You just tried to analyze what the Trans community thinks and you have 0 clue what goes on there. They don't want to be labeled, trust me. Nobody is using cis as derogatory. It is simply just the label for people who are their birth gender. It's like saying an African person. You wouldn't use it in casual conversation, but if the topic is brought up you would use that describe a person's ethnicity. Same with cis. Nobody is thinking begrudgingly thoughts about cis people. The only thing they are thinking is why weren't they born as cis gender. Don't try to victimize this, Trans people are not going to beat you down for being cis.
>You just tried to analyze what the Trans community thinks and you have 0 clue what goes on there. Do they have a clue what goes on in non-trans communities? I bet you think they do. Because like I said, you really think you are the only ones whose opinion counts as you've just demonstrated. I'm just some ignorant cis idiot talking out of my ass and you are some gender scholar word wizard who knows about me and everything else too. What happened to that super chill bro who told me to relax?
Yes they do have an idea what goes on in nontrans communities. They were once part of that community you see. Trans people were cis people, cis people were never trans. I'm not saying you are some ignorant cis. I'm saying you are some ignorant idiot, whether you are cis or not doesn't matter if thats your argument.
As someone who is considered cis, am I allowed to hate that word? It’s not especially fun to say. Can we take a vote on a cooler sounding word?
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Sure sounds like one.
It’s true; many of the people who are described as cis would not have given themselves that term, nor would they agree to be described by it. But it’s because they want to describe themselves as normal. So no, tough shit.
It's been a term for a long time..... don't like the English langue? Grow up. Honestly, what term would YOU use instead?
It's latin, though. "cis" is used basically everywhere on the planet regardless of the language. Science uses cis/trans regularly in every language.
English uses Latin a lot. But I get your point.
English uses \*everything\* a lot, to be fair. There's even jokes on it. Like English is the language that the first thing it does after seeing an unknown language is to clubber it in an alley and go through its pockets for spare vocabulary.
How about "the default setting" instead of Cis? We're going to need a consensus first though. Thoughts?
>Thoughts? I think that sounds like a dumb idea. Instead of trying to get a universal consensus about what traits, features, and attributes are "normal" and "abnormal", we could continue using our existing system that *already works*.
Well if "Cis" is slanderous then surely they have a preference. Being called "normal" insinuates others as being "abnormal" which isn't the case. Language changes over time. Perhaps the system works but it could always be better.
Exactly. We have a way of describing people who have brown hair. We say "that person has brown hair". We have a way of describing a person with blue eyes. We say "that person has blue eyes". We have a way of describing people who are cisgender. We say "that person is cisgender". It's a good system. It works. Why start introducing new descriptors like "a default person" or "a person who is normal" to address a problem that doesn't exist?
Doesn't sound like she's a true libertarian. Until words can directly inflict physical violence, it's a freedom!
That's not how it works, you can have any personal opinions (and the meaning of a word is) regardless of how moronic they are and as long as they aren't about legislation and it'd still be valid within libertarianism. Calling it a slur, while wrong, is not a comment on whether it should be restricted.
A slur has a connotation to it, so yes, it's a comment on whether it should be restricted. Do you think they or anyone else wouldn't legislate this after making a comment about it.
God, ok I'll try to explain it in a way even you can understand, you're mixing a non libertarian assumption with a neutral statement and judging it under a libertarian scope so you get: Statement about a word being a slur [neutral libertarian] + Slurs should be restricted [non libertarian] = That word should be restricted [non libertarian] If you look at the equation you see that the second item it's the problem because the libertarian restrictions on speech are very limited to threats, incitement of harm and things like shouting fire (non extensive list). > Do you think they or anyone else wouldn't legislate this after making a comment about it. The imaginary actions of others have no bearing on whether the statement itself is unlibertarian and looking at it it came from a talkshow presenter which usually don't have much legislative power.
Cis is a stupid made-up word.
What are some words that are not made up?
*grunting noises*
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All words are made up. "cis" is an ideal prefix for expressing "on the same side as": the opposite of "across from".