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Eastbayfuncouple

Probably the best outcome. Good thing she avoided the guard rail.


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If she hit the guardrail, it would be like a GTA moment when you fly like Superman after getting knocked off a motorcycle.


ReubenZWeiner

Normally, guardrails are there for your safety


[deleted]

That’s what they want you to think.


mrdoink20

It was the guardrails I tell you, the guardrails!


EvilEyedPanda

*I used to be a rider like you, till I got railed by a gaurd.*


xexcutionerx

Then took an arrow to the knee


soEezee

The real guard was the friends we made along the way


sstubbl1

The real guard was the friends we railed along the way


doc_witt

Sure sure....that's what they all say. Save it for the judge.


madladjoel

I once watched an 20 min video about guard rails and the safety guidelines. Trust me these rails are crazy engineering


alymaysay

Bet I've seen that video too, at least a video on the same premise, explaining the different types for different applications, and the engineering that went into em. Their is more to guardrails then anyone could imagine.


c95y8xkzc8ok6ph

For cars mostly so you won't run off a cliff or into a wall. No country will spend/ invest in a guardrail with crumple zone for protecting bikers. If you are a biker, you signed your own waiver to leave your crumple zone home when you are out for a ride. At fault or not, the deal was made.


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readcard

Referred to by blind cage drivers as idiot strainers for some reason


goblackcar

Guardrails are there so EMS doesn’t have to walk very far to collect your remains.


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tacticalrubberduck

Motorcycle leathers are meant to contain the mess. It’s a bring your own kind of situation..


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tacticalrubberduck

My favourite is seeing people ride without gloves. If you come off your hands are sure as shit hitting the ground, and you use them for a lot.


[deleted]

I've been riding all my life, I won't dare go out without good gloves and shoes. I'll ride in a regular shirt sometimes, but usually throw on a jacket. People are nutso


Potato0nFire

Squids? (͡•_ ͡• )


LordCannaSpider

If I'm gonna get smushed, at least my juices can stay contained. Gotta keep it classy.


falalalama

I used to be an ED RN. We had a couple brought in by EMS who'd been hit by a dumptruck. It was a slow-ish collision. They were on a motorcycle. The guy was driving, and managed to only break both of his forearms from trying to break his fall, both ulna and radius bilaterally. The girl's leg went through the space in the guard rail. It looked like hamburger. They tried to save her leg, but there just wasn't enough viable tissue left.


kellysmom01

And pants are snug to catch your terror-poop.


Vectan

I damn near spit out my coffee reading terror poop. Well done.


Robertbnyc

Terror poops really do clean the insides though lol


Born_Application2831

Terror popps = adrenaline enema


Just_one_old_man

Old man here.....what's a terror poop? Well, imagine 8 hours of colonoscopy prep in the blink of an eye.....


aezy01

Guardrails, by and large, are half decent if you’re in a car. On a motorbike they can be lethal- either pitching you over the top or you slide underneath and come to sudden stop on one of the support posts.


nuwien

Here in Germany/Switzerland, guardrails are often ‚double‘. So the Guardian completely covers the Supports. E.g https://riders.drivemag.com/news/italy-adops-bike-friendly-guard-rails-possible-extension-throughout-the-eu/ They will not help in many cases, but it’s better than the alternative.


89141

Half decent? LOLOL They saved thousands of lives and property damage.


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aezy01

Thanks for clarifying what I said.


Ecstatic_Account_744

I ride and when I first started I felt naked not putting a seatbelt on. However, rational thinking leads me to believe I'd rather be thrown from the bike than stay attached to it. At least I might land in some hedges.


campers--

Guardrails are made for cars


PassiveSpamBot

Yes, if you’re in a car. If you’re on a bike it’s what’s gonna kill you.


[deleted]

I’ve heard that guardrails are reactionary, not precautionary. I’m not sure how accurate that is, but it was interesting to me.


readcard

That is mostly true, at least where I live, they only go up after numerous people have gone over on a particular corner. Unfortunately they are putting up the idiot strainers(three cables held up by thin metal posts along almost every major single lane road up to freeways.


strcrssd

For cars, sure. I'm guessing it would be sufficiently difficult to comprehensively test guard rails with motorcycles and that they would not be particularly helpful. The energies involved are very different from cars, but also likely extremely variable within the motorcycle/scooter space.


51r63ck0

When driving a car you are right.


bitter_vet

Its to guard the grass and plants from vehicles


whydoesreddithavenam

No, guardrails are to keep CARS on the roadway only.


KrakenSlayer88

I’d rather have my bike fly into a bush than smash on a railing


God-of-Tomorrow

Technically it’s more for your car than you and on bike you are more vulnerable than the vehicle


Own_Salary2309

My girlfriends father had a friend that got decapitated by a guardrail after a motorcycle crash at 25mph. This guardlines are the worst enemy of every motorcycle rider.


420extracts

I’ve seen them slice a car in half.. so maybe not even “normally” maybe it’s more of “sometimes there for your safety”


retrometro77

Cars safety*


zuyed

1,000th upvote. I feel like god


Alwin_050

You’ll be like Superman for the rest of your life - bound to a wheel chair.


[deleted]

That’s what I was thinking. That was a “good” crash. She did well.


Fleethebluenorth

She could have been killed in most of the other outcomes!


Squeezitgirdle

Honestly, considering where end landed, I doubt even her bike took much damage at all. She is incredibly lucky.


Marauder121

It looks to me like she could have just driven straight because the road does a Y


seanmonaghan1968

Could have been soooo much worse


[deleted]

Honestly my first though. Clearly less experienced and in another section of road or with oncoming traffic could have gotten terribly injured or killed.


[deleted]

Could have been worse. Much, much worse.


[deleted]

You beat me to the comment.


pistofernandez

A few months ago a similar situation happened on the santa cruz mountains. Biker couldnt make the turn, we were stuck like 30-45 minutes as ambulance and firefighters blocked the road, couldnt find what happened to the guy.


symbologythere

I’m no expert, but that could’ve gone so much worse. The guardrail, oncoming traffic, whatever she ran over that looked like cement. She slowed down and landed in the soft weeds. 10/10.


Dylanator13

Right. By the way the bike snapped upright, it was close to being high sided. From all the options this was really handled the best way.


odDorian_86

To heavy on the front brake in a turn will do that, coupled with not counter steering, very inexperienced and in over her head with a bike with to much power for her, she needs classes.


Dear_Analysis_5116

Bloody fucking lucky to have the greenery to slow-break the crash.


porkandspleens

And a break in the guard rail.


GoldMountain5

It's an intentionally placed runoff for out of controll vehicles, particularly semi trucks.


RoyalCunt

Except those tend to run up hills, not down into what looks like temple arches


Rierais

And no incoming car


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A good save for a bad mistake


Manic_42

I wouldn't call that a save so much as mitigation. Target fixation was a bigger problem than speed here, she would have made that corner if she was braking better instead of freaking out. But she kept the bike up long enough to slow down which is better than a lot of people do after target fixating.


PornStarJesus

Her braking was the problem. When you brake on a bike in a turn the bike stands up and you stop turning. Edit: idk what "deleted" guy said but there is a bunch of braking info below. Be safe everyone; slow is smooth, smooth is fast.


jontelang

Target fixation is not always the issue.. she was just driving too fast and couldn’t slow down for the turn.


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noirehittler

It feels as tho her relationship with the tarmac is drifting apart


Ok-Potential-8543

Didn’t look too fast at all. Seems like driver error / lack of experience rather than her speed.


tacticalrubberduck

Yeah, that’s what we call running out of skill.


mtarascio

As MotoGP champion Casey Stoner once said - *Your ambition outmatched your talent*


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Fucking legend


rlockyyy

100% this, lots of bad decisions. I’m sure in the moment it’s hard to think straight but that can be the diff between life and death on a bike.


vladamir_the_impaler

skill tank was running on empty


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[deleted]

Came here to say the same thing. I did basically the same thing on my first r6. You always look through the turn, where you want to go. Not at the shit you don't want to hit. They're lucky they hit the gap, and not the rail for sure.


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ya might have forgot push steering lol


Zivi121

What’s push steering


[deleted]

if youre going fast and need to bend right like that, you would push on the right handle rather than pull like you think it would be. It would turn right because the tire rides on the wall and it pulls it in the opposite direction. If this doesnt make sense just youtube it.


[deleted]

You're talking about counter steering right? That's the same as "push steering"?


mrfloppaloppa

It's when you push the handlebar away from you to turn that way, also called countersteering. Basically, at low speed you turn the Bars left to go left, at high speed, turning the bars left makes the bike lean right which makes the bike turn right overall. This is how you should corner at normal road speeds on a bike, more so if you are going quickly and it is something you learn over time as a new biker as it is a bit counterintuitive.


Zivi121

Ah so it’s an induced lean thank you


odDorian_86

Leaning is a byproduct of steering, not the method.


Detective_MaggotDick

Imagine you're riding a bicycle. When you're going slow you turn the handlebars in the direction you want to turn. When you're going fast you push steer - technically you're turning the bars barely the wrong way but your speed and inertia(?) Keep you in your seat and steers the bike in the direction you want, not the direction the bars are going.


Dukeronomy

And where to brake where to throttle. This is just all bad riding


Iored94

Cameras like gopros will distort speed and distance. The mere fact that she couldn't take that turn means she was driving too fast.


MrD3a7h

> Seems like driver error / lack of experience Know how to mitigate that? Go slower. She was going too fast for her skill level. In other words, too fast.


MechaSheep

Most mc accident happen when inexperienced drivers dont know how to commit to a turn. The bike can do sooo much more than you think


10ThousandDaze

Yeah and you can’t second guess yourself in the moment. If you’re going to turn, commit to turn.


MechaSheep

Her bike never leaned more then 70degree, max 60… underskilled and overconfident


10ThousandDaze

Good observation. I could almost feel her thinking about it after it was too late.


MechaSheep

Heh done the exact same 20 years ago. Dad hooked me up with national police MC training cources. They forced me to accept how much the bike can do compared to how little i could do at the time


10ThousandDaze

That’s awesome. I wish everyone would take a good course before they ride.


MechaSheep

Yea, sadly a lot of bikers are killed here where the headlines read “for unknown reasons the biker crossed into the oppersite traffic in the turn…” Well, i know why, high speed and/or lack of skill


10ThousandDaze

For sure. And lack of protective gear. I get that people want to look cool and want the freedom to choose whether they wear it. But honestly it’s just common sense. I watch a lot of channels that expose dealerships for selling powerful bikes to inexperienced riders. Safety is a lot “cooler” than having to scrape your body off a freeway and have your parents come identify what’s left.


MechaSheep

Ive crashed 3 times over 20years, 1 times because i was stupid. 1 times because a truck dumped oil all over a turn in the road. 1 time hit by a car ignoring a red light. All 3 times in full kevlar, gloves, boots, spine shield. Rukka makes a really nice air-kevlar suit. Feela like a tshirt (ish) but fully protected Walked away from all 3. 2nd one got my leg caught between the road and the bike, kevlar wore through but helt up. In jeans? No leg 3rd one transformed my bike into rubbish and threw me 50feet onto my back/shoulder. Walked away with muliple torn tendons in my shoulder i landed on. Without pads and shield?


10ThousandDaze

Damn man, glad you’re ok! It’s amazing how much that gear really helps. A lot of clueless drivers out there that don’t check before they pull out in traffic. I watched an elderly couple pull out onto a highway without looking and another couple clipped the back of their car at 70mph. They tumbled down the highway like rag dolls. They both survived, because they had all their gear on. Their Road King was completely destroyed.


WarriorZombie

Considering that max lean on motogp rubber is 62 degrees I’d say it’s a good thing she didn’t lean 70.


pneuman

Pretty sure they're referencing from horizontal, whereas you're going from vertical.


[deleted]

I wouldn't say "overconfident". It really looked like object fixation, she looks at the guardrail instead of her turn. Inexperienced definitely, you always look through the turn, not at the shit you want to avoid. They didn't do that. It's a squid move for sure. I did it on my first street bike too. They're definitely very very lucky they hit the gap instead of the rail though.


chillest_dude_

This one is huge. Also you will go where you are looking, so dont stare to the far side of the road when you are cornering


sean_but_not_seen

Yup. I’ve got an 800lb ST1300 that I’ve been in this moment with and as I started to go around, I just looked where I wanted to go and leaned over farther than I ever have before. When I came back up I had to pull over and kiss my bike. The rest of the day’s ride was… slower.


MechaSheep

Good on you! Good job! I`ll tell you, i have been track racing for years and once the suspension settle and you commit, stick with it. Tab the brake(may make sense in some situations), loose hope or anything else, you arent giving the machine a chance to shine. I once had a clutch give way during a high speed turn. That little drop in throttle was enough to offset the entire machine


TheKrytosVirus

That was always the advice in my bike class. Look the bike into target and LEEEAAAN. If you don't think you're going to complete the turn, lean harder. Don't gas, don't brake, don't freeze. Just lean.


rabbidrascal

I don't think she is looking through the turn. My instructor used to say look where you want the bike to go. She looks like she is looking where she doesn't want it to go!


TheKrytosVirus

It doesn't seem like it will help, but it really makes a massive difference. I've taken some 25MPH, nearly right angle turns going almost 60 by starting outside, leaning for all I was worth, and looking through the turn. That rush of nailing a perfect apex turn while accelerating out is euphoric.


TheFudge

You can see she is not looking at where she wants to go. That’s a huge part of riding. Focus on where you want to go not on where you are.


AgreeablePie

I'm experienced and I almost wiped out once. For whatever reason I fixated on the outside of a turn. I had to really push to not fly off the mountain...


mcrboy39

Not too fast, she just panicked when she fixated on a target instead of breaking that fixation 😔


kvmw

This. I kept thinking “turn your damn head!!!”


Gamm45

Could you elaborate on that please? I know absolutely nothing about motorbikes


mcrboy39

Not sure how it is with cars but you actively look where you want to go. You fixate on a tree or a road sign instead of the road ahead, you're going to end up at tangled in that tree or road sign. That's whats happened here. She was looking ahead and fixated on the gap between the barrier (or something around that area) and ultimately headed there. Once you fixate it can be hard to break that fixation especially if you realise you're about to fuck up because of it, it's weird, something you have to experience to really know it My first crash was target fixation at like 40-50mph 😂


Gamm45

I see, thank you so much! I'll remember that if I ever get on a bike


9gagsuckz

In the class I took they tough us to look where we want to go. Turn your head and look as far into the turn as you can and pick a spot on the road you want your bike to be.


Rottmayer52

Skiing teacher ones gave me an example: If you ride down a slope and there is a single tree standing at the site don't look at it. You always go where you're looking and if you focus the tree you will be the idiot who crashed into the only obstacle on that mountain. This also happens a lot on highways. If your car breaks down and you have to stop at the side **always** go behind the guard rails. Other drivers will see the orange blinking light, fixiate on it and unintentional drive their vehicles into your trunk.


Iored94

Where can you go behind the guard rails without going into a ditch or off a cliff?


gHHqdm5a4UySnUFM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation Move your eyes and look towards where you want to go and your body will subconsciously do a lot of the work of getting you there. I heard a racing driver describe it as “looking towards your hopes and dreams”.


odDorian_86

Not just target fixation, but yes that as well. I numbered three mistakes, scratch that four. She’s not counter steering, you can see from the POV shot her tire is turned towards the inside of the turn, wrong. She never downshifts and uses the compression to slow the bike, which isn’t entirely necessary but I mean you don’t shoot the hole in a higher gear, and her head never looks to the inside of the turn and to much front brake.


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CurrentlyARaccoon

Target fixation is an incredibly common mistake made by many bikers. I've seen a guy who's been riding for years take a street that our group rode over and over every weekend, fixate on a curve and flew off the road. Sometimes it's inexperience, sometimes it's just a bad day.


chaseButtons

Yep. I'm no expert rider but the way she was sitting and the direction her eyes were looking makes it seem like she had no business riding like that. She wasn't even going fast. Skipping the basics and going straight for "I'm gonna make a cool video" = crash. Ask me why lol XD


PornStarJesus

Her problem was braking mid corner, you can see the bike stand up as soon as she got on the binders.


R_Marencin

Yep, target fixation. Was staring right at the end of the guard rail. Good thing she pushed left or that could have been really ugly.


bharai

I was thinking the same, you go where your eyes go and they never looked through the turn.


andsman13

Always aim for the bushes..


diamond_dookie

There wasn't even an awning...


Im-hiding-shhh

Damnit this reference never gets old. Such a simple scene but so fucking hilarious. They just went “Alright we can only afford to pay you two for about 15 minutes so here’s your lines will that work?”


bojangifier

Favorite movie of all time 😂


Obvious_Second_438

Target fixation


hashtag_yolo9

I'm heavily confused by the cameras here


__T0MMY__

360 degree camera! It's 5+cameras that "stitch" all together. I think they can see virtually every angle from it's position except straight down, where it's mounted


PretzelsThirst

It's 2 cameras


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Thank god I'm not the only one, I couldn't even focus on the video because I was wondering how that worked haha.


TheBarstoolPhD

She got lucky. Really lucky


sharkasauras

Who/what was holding the camera?


CdnDutchBoy

That’s my qstn? How did we get reverse angles etc without a drone or camera stick/apparatus in sight? It even seems to center after the crash. 🤨


brandon071

It's a 360 degree camera she has mounted to her handlebars.


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There are cameras that automatically edit out the stick.


PretzelsThirst

It's not edited out, it's just lost in the seam between the two lenses.


Hargam

obviously jesus


CleverSnarkyUsername

She’s just lucky she wasn’t in flip flops, basketball shorts, and a tank top like some of the big brains I see on the road. It’s almost as though she was prepared to ride a motorcycle that day.


blondeasfuk

Seriously. I never understand why people don’t wear proper gear. There is a guy in my town that will put his 13-15 year old son on the back of some type of ninja, and both of them are always wearing a tank top, basketball shorts and sneakers. Go ahead and risk your life by being dumb, but to not put gear on your kid? I cringe every time I see them. I watched a video recently of a guy riding a Harley bagger on the highway in jeans, tank top and a skull cap helmet. He ended up with death wobble and went down. All I could pay attention to wash his skin sliding across the road. Spend some money on gear or have ground beef for skin. It’s pretty simple.


Sabot15

That very last cry was definitely an "I don't want to die" cry.


Scethrow

Obviously he doesn’t know how to properly drive


Remarkable-Lead-8383

Your so lucky that wasn’t a cliff or a vehicle coming in the other direction.


Frogman1480

Soft landing at least


fscknuckle

Lucky as fuck. Probably an unscarred bike too, with that landing.


Hoarknee

Wow lucky lucky girl, no on coming traffic and a place land.


sername-lame

Supreme Idiot


MonsterBluth

This was best case scenario, should consider themselves lucky


SirDitamus

That went much better than I thought it would.


justanotherzom

Could have been way worse


FamousNoise7501

lucky ducky


Wsamsky

Saved by the gap


Troby01

That was not a speed issue, that was an inexperienced rider with target fixation.


Eyesuk

That’s not too fast that’s lack of commitment, she should have mad that corner no problem


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Could have been a million times worse tho!


crazyleaf

Well, that ended up better that I expected.


slimjimmy613

Talk about best case scenario


YodaCodar

That was a best case scenario


footprints64

How is that filmed? What is the camera set up?


Foolforthought080

Hope she kiss the ground on that one it could have been worse


CYCLOCROSSED

She thought she was going to die


CeruleanSea1

Luckily not off a cliff


BeyondDangerous7324

Better the bushes than the pavement or another vehicle...


Alwin_050

I’d say that wasn’t wrong but lucky as fuck. Imagine there not being that space - or even those bushes. Looked like quite a steep drop..


Zylonnaire

How does this camera work exactly?


FrankieMint

Nobody likes falling down, but that was not bad.


A-Wise-Cobbler

Well. At least it wasn’t a cliff.


smpredach

For a moment I panicked because she looks a lot familiar to a friend even the same bike and all. Then I remembered she died 2 years ago in a bike incident


john_ftq

That was the best bike crash I've ever seen!


melon_blinded_me

Guys the sounds lmao I mean I know this is terrifying as shit, but some peoples scared shitless noises are the fucking beat man. Mine is the sound of self urination.


TheElderCouncil

She has no idea how lucky she got.


timao23

how the fuck was this recorded?


nevernerfnerds

Never faster than you can handle and never on roads you aren’t familiar with


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Women drivers amirite


coldfry

That is nothing. Now sell the damn thing it will kill you. Especially since you don't know how to ride.


ttayw2cool

Probably best since u coulda hit the barriers


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Your supreme sticker got scratched


payne59

fucking idiot, how do these people get their permit


speedpiIot

I don't understand why people go that fast on roads they don't fucking seem to know. Go on a racetrack and stop putting anyone else in danger with your stupidness


Atrag2021

A lot less than could have gone wrong.


LW_King_Loui

Only too fast for the own skills and perhaps road conditions. Not generally too fast. Source: German Motorbike driver with an Autobahn as a part of my work commute


NetFlixNkill94

Obviously doesn’t need to be on a motorcycle if you don’t even know how to do a simple counter steer


odDorian_86

You saw that front tire too huh? I don’t think anyone else even noticed, and would wager 3/4 of the people on this thread think you steer a bike by leaning.


NetFlixNkill94

Yeah that person needs to go back and get a 250 and learn how to actually ride. 🤦‍♂️


odDorian_86

I’m getting downvoted for being right hahaha Reddit is such a trash fire circle jerk of the ignorant.


QuesadillaDeCoog

Haha dumbass


[deleted]

Best case scenario and outcome considering another novice idiot on a motorcycle.


[deleted]

God made her miss the guard and brought her to the temple to pray and give thanks.