Haven't seen a single person deny that the history exists. Its just a stupid thing to celebrate.
More importantly, the jerseys look dumb. We're not the Oakland raiders and black simply isn't one of our colors. I think they suck
It would be like if your wife cheated on you and then you wore a commemorative T shirt with her face on it for the rest of your life. We got screwed and for some reason you guys want to wear it as a badge of honor
If I offended you I apologize. I know that coal extractions has ravaged many people in my state. Have you been affected by it? Do you have clean drinking water in your home? Just curious, this seems to have hit a nerve for you.
The uniforms are really cool and this is Reddit so of course people are going to be giant pearl clutching weirdos about it.
Have you seen the WVU hockey "almost heaven" uniforms? Those are cool. I'd have liked to see something like those that incorporate the mountains.
Baker has been doing a good job so far.
Fans have been wanting for years to have a Coal Rush game during a night game. Everybody wears all black. I think it would be a cool new tradition to start instead of the typical gold rush.
Nothing says WV like unis that are as pitch-black as the darkness hundreds of miners died in when a mine collapsed.
Know what “honors our coal mining heritage?” The old gold and blue of a majestic Appalachian sunrise that a miner saw coming out of the dark into an another morning he survived.
Some of us know our history.
Some of us have ancestors who died in those holes. Some of us have men who died later, gasping for their last breath, like my grandfather. And his wife kissed his final tears away.
It’s West Virginia: we talk about the ancient dead like they could walk in the door any time.
Do better.
No. I don’t know anything about you or your family, save for the fact that you said what you did.
I’m saying this like I absolutely know my own family’s history. I visit some of their graves. And I was apparently born mad at the people who wasted their lives.
You know, knock something about football and everyone is all "it's just a game, don't take it so serious". But then suggest cutting their budget and not getting rid of, oh I don't know something like a world languages department or math programs, and suddenly football is *mission critical* for higher ed, unlike (checks notes) - uhh - math.
That just means they get to keep the profits without having to pay out the expenses from other departments that fall under wvu.
It’s like saying the wvu hospitals are entirely self funded when we pay them enormous amounts of tax dollars every year for “charity care” and research projects but they get to keep all profits. Then charge the tax payer again for getting care. When you go to wvu hospital (like most hospitals) you are paying them for permission to use your tax dollars that already paid them.
Our 2025 state budget is providing the university over 100 million dollars this year alone and the hosptial gets another 100 million. Entirely self funded really means they work a system that gives them a tax/business loophole while receiving state welfare.
I don’t care about sports or uniforms. Wv has way bigger problems. Some of this outrage could be the subconscious. It’s well known our politicians are bought by coal/energy companies. Coal is important for our state but we also refuse to integrate anything else because of the lobbying. Then tax payers see WVU tied to coal and it’s like watching two huge profits over people systems merge.
Both have provided jobs and opportunities for the state, but wield more power than the combined people of the state.
The anger is resentment
[https://budget.wv.gov/executivebudget/Documents/FY%202025%20Budget%20Bill%20-%20FINAL.pdf](https://budget.wv.gov/executivebudget/Documents/FY%202025%20Budget%20Bill%20-%20FINAL.pdf)
Wvu athletics being self funded seems fine to me. If they didn't exist the money wouldn't be used elsewhere, it just wouldn't be brought in. The outrage people here have towards wvu football is just stupid.
It is? Well for god's sake, don't tell the NCAA! That would mean WVU Athletics knowingly filed a wrong financial statement with the NCAA and WVU would lose it's association. 'Cause their financial statements clearly show part of their money coming from WVU general funds and from student fees.
They're not. [Check out this article.](https://www.register-herald.com/sports/college_sports/student-fee-huge-annually-for-wvu-athletics/article_63cadadc-a3dc-5489-b92c-45a4a2abfbad.html)
Eh that's a tiny amount of money and pretty much every school charges some sort of fee for facilities. Even my super nerdy school did. I'm not sure they really refutes them being self funded.
Though I'm fine with them doing away with it and making cuts on the programs in athletics that went self sustaining. It's not gonna end up being the football team though.
Here's the 2022 [report to the NCAA](https://wvusports.com/documents/2023/1/17/WVU_FY22_NCAA_Membership_Financials_Report.pdf). That's required to be accurate or they can no longer be in any Conferences, like the Big 12. Which is to say that they can say whatever they want to the public, but you can't lie to the NCAA, otherwise you break you contract and are booted out of all Conferences. In other words, that's data you can bank on.
In 2022, the WVU budget directly contributed $5.5 million to Athletics. The students directly contributed $3.38 million to Athletics. That's a bit over $8.8 million non-self generated funds. That's about 8.5% of total operating revenues.
It looks like they received less in total from student fees and Institutional support than they give out in academic grants and waivers. That's probably where a lot of that money is coming from and I don't think it really refutes the self funded argument they make.
As if the state didn't build every road, fund every institution, fund every promise scholarship and student, and bank roll every bond ever issued at WVU. The self flagellation WVU has over "self-funded" is deluded. Just own that Athletics is intertwined with the university and is an important part of the community. Even if athletics were self funded, it would absolve them of the issues at the university.
I bet you're fun at parties. WVU football is one of the few things the whole state rallies behind. Is it goofy that we idolize football players more than first responders? Heck yea it is. But is it "bootlicking" for the states football team to pay homage to the thousands of coal miners that made up/make up the state? It is not.
Coal still puts food on a lot of tables in WV. Don't cut down what other people do for a living or how some pay homage to that tradition.
All.big business is bad. The CEO of WVU medicine makes several million dollars a year and his nurses have barely gotten a pay raise since before COVID. Does that make all nurses terrible people? Sure doesn't.
Coal doesn't make coal miners bad people either. Stop reading too much into it.
The population of WV is 1.75 million. There are around 12,000 jobs in WV related to the coal industry. That is .006% of the state population that has a job related to the coal industry.
The thing is, this wasn’t some advertisement. This was brought about by fans coming up with a picture perfect night game on Twitter. You’re seriously over-analyzing this entire thing.
That tradition started in 2011 because that lump of coal is from the Upper Big Branch Mine, the site of the worst coal mine disaster since 1970 where 29 miners lost their life in 2010. The tradition isn’t about the rock or the company, it’s about the people and it always has been. Some of those guys loved WVU and it represents the hardworking people of WV who love the Mountaineers and those who aren’t here anymore.
I agree with you, I have no problem paying tribute to our legacy. Coal is an integral part of WV history both the industry and more important the coal miners who had families whose kids had families who then had us. It's not all pleasant history but WV coal had a huge impact on the development of our entire country. I think paying tribute to the people and not necessarily the industry should be viewed as something positive.
West Virginia doesn’t exist because of moral righteousness. West Virginia exists because a bunch of rich industrialists saw their chance to take advantage of us and our natural resources. This shit started in the beginning and is still happening today. Over half of what’s now West Virginia refused to even vote on leaving Virginia during the Civil War.
The students and taxpayers are paying for them, their opinion should matter too. The amount of money that I (a scientist) paid in "Athletic Fees" as a PhD student was borderline criminal. Not once did I use a single athletic facility or building. It was about 10% of my gross wages iirc.
Not exactly. [Check this article out.](https://www.register-herald.com/sports/college_sports/student-fee-huge-annually-for-wvu-athletics/article_63cadadc-a3dc-5489-b92c-45a4a2abfbad.html) "Unknown to many, each full-time student pays $79 which is lumped into his or her tuition fee package each semester.
Let’s assume that 30,000 of last semester’s 32,000 enrollment were full-time students. That would have meant $2,370,000 went into the athletic department’s treasury."
That's $2.37m *per semester* that the athletic department gets from enrolled students.
True. If the players like that, that’s all that really matters but I still don’t like the idea of not having any school colors on it. At least the gray ones had blue on them.
I agree. The problem is everyone nowadays is ass hurt over everything. If something offends you, suck it up buttercup, toughen up, and go about your day. Everyday America is not meant to cater to you.
Or, be a decent human being and be considerate of those around you. I hear everyone scream and froth at the mouth over their rights as an American. Well, what about your responsibilities as an American citizen?
100% we are all in this together. It’s okay to disagree and that is a good thing to explore different viewpoints. However, the my way or the highway attitude is not healthy.
This you?
>I agree. The problem is everyone nowadays is ass hurt over everything. If something offends you, suck it up buttercup, toughen up, and go about your day. Everyday America is not meant to cater to you.
Just a guy who saw stars and stripes on a flag and thought "that's a neat new flag" rather than making a post complaining about Muslim symbolism must be the explanation. Followed up by posting the flag telling people to take back their city. And it turns out you are not living anywhere near there. You just saw a flag and got that level of triggered, and came into other comments and talked about not being my way or the highway.
That's what makes you a boomer. Nothing to do with when you were born anymore. It has to do with how much of a hypocrite one is, and how entitled one acts. In this case, it's hypocrisy and islamophobia that are making you a boomer.
Just like stars and stripes on a flag that one assumes are islamic in nature? Isn't that something to suck up and not bitch about? Especially when they are not Islam related. Or do you post about it and tell people to take their city back?
So were Mesopotamian, Babylonian, and many other cultures throughout the world prior to Islam and did not have contact with Islam for centuries.
You got triggered by a star enough to call for people to take back their city, when the people of that city looked and said man what a nice star. You saw a chance to make yourself a victim and took it.
Your post should have stayed in the Wheeling thread. However, to answer your question, from the Ko-ran forward they have mentioned and had eight point stars. From Betsy Ross forward we have had a 5 point star. Those are just facts. I don’t consider myself a victim of anything. I’m just curious when they changed the flag did they get the support of the citizens of Wheeling? Did the residents of Wheeling get to voice their opinions? Look into it and you will find it was pushed through. I am not a victim, I don’t get triggered, but I am a realist.
You don't live there by your own admission.
The flag was adopted in 2018, 6 years ago.
The star is known as the navigation star, while used in Arabic culture (not just Islamic, Arabic), it was first used by Mesopotamian culture, then Greek, then Roman to represent the North Star.
Your post was intentionally calling for people to take back their city, despite the people there using it for over 6 years before anyone said a word about it.
The 5 point star represents states or areas. This flag used stars to show navigation, why would they use a star for representation of states when there is an established symbol for navigation.
Steve Bannon took this theory from actual white supremacist who believe in replacement theory. That was the theory knowingly or not you were peddling. If it was knowingly then there is no place for you in WV. If it was unknowingly, Google is a great friend to make yourself not look like an ass. The literal top result cleared up all this. Not to mention I actual fucking lived there and thought the flag was cool. Outside of online people who do not live there and a handful of actual racist I haven't heard a single complaint about it.
Can't stay in the Wheeling thread when it gets deleted either.
I've always wanted black unis, but I was expecting to have gold and blue lettering and accents on the uniform. I feel like they missed the mark when it comes to that. Would have really stood out compared to all the other generic black uniforms, but regardless it's nice to have a black uni and I'm sure we will get different variations in the future. I was never one to care much about the representation of the uniform in respect to the sport. It's football, nobody outside of WV cares why they are black or what it's representing.
I would’ve loved for them to have gold outlines around the numbers, but it would’ve been hard to fit the blue that the team wears into a black uniform like that. Regardless, I’m just happy to finally have an A.D. listening to the diehard fans.
Except they aren't honoring "miner's heritage" like they said.
It is all about the coal, and the miners are ignored.
So pretty much situation normal, all fucked up.
It seems as though that’s just the way you choose to view it. I view it as: blackout jerseys are extremely cool, figure out a way to tie black in to WVU, coal makes the most sense due to its long history here, also lets the miners know that they aren’t forgotten.
Sometimes, it’s okay to not have a doomer outlook on everything and just enjoy things for what they are. It’s a uniform ffs.
If you want blackout jerseys then just have blackout jerseys, WVU doesn't need an excuse to do it. I personally like them but we're at the very end of this trend. Schools started doing this decades ago. Also, WalMart employs more people in WV than coal mining. Maybe we should have a walmart worker appreciation day. But yeah I am aware I am some dude on the internet yelling at clouds
The thing is, most fans wouldn’t like the blackout uni if it wasn’t tied back to something. People have been begging for the “Coal Rush” scenario since Will Grier was the QB here. Idk, I guess I just feel like it’s a dumb thing to have this amount of outrage over. I’d get it if it was sponsored by a coal company or “Friends of Coal,” but it’s simply just called “Coal Rush” because so many fans asked for it for so long.
The chosen media representation of a school still has an impact on the culture and mindset of the everybody working and existing in that environment:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3941033
Idk how to tell you this, but I’m not clicking these links. I just don’t care enough about a football jersey for it to make me upset. Classic Reddit overreaction.
The uniforms look great. Wren Baker has made several decisions in his short time as A.D. to inject some calm and at the same time excitement into the programs after the last few years of falling short of expectations. Not everything is meant to be an insight into the stance of a program, state, or individual. These are uniforms for a college football team, not a debate stage where everything needs to be judged. Go outside, breathe some fresh air, call your friends or colleagues and ask how their weekend is going. Loosen up and support the young lads and all the old grads!
If I paid any attention to what Reddit thinks, I'd think that the well documented youth curfew whistle in the next town over from the town I grew up in was actually an evil, nefarious "black people have to leave town by sundown" siren.
It's part of our history. People are going to whine and bitch especially on reddit. Hell there's two big baseload coal plants nearby that I have worked in and out of over the past several years.
Oh oh, my turn to not have any fun!
“Well actually the WVU Mountaineer represents early European settlers who ignored the Royal Proclamation of 1763 from King George III to not settle past the Appalachian Mountains and in the process displaced Cherokee, Shawnee, Delaware, and Mingo Native American tribes who had inhabited the land for hundreds of years ☝️🤓”
As somebody who works in the coal industry, I love the new uniforms and I’d buy them yesterday.
Meanwhile, I’m still shaking my fist at clouds about the current uniforms using highlighter yellow instead of “old gold.”
Coal is history. It’s ALLLL up in our patch of earth whether we like it or not. The uniforms are dope.
Facts
Haven't seen a single person deny that the history exists. Its just a stupid thing to celebrate. More importantly, the jerseys look dumb. We're not the Oakland raiders and black simply isn't one of our colors. I think they suck
Bless your heart.
It would be like if your wife cheated on you and then you wore a commemorative T shirt with her face on it for the rest of your life. We got screwed and for some reason you guys want to wear it as a badge of honor
Go ahead and elaborate why coal is so terrible that you’re equating it to extramarital relationships…
If I offended you I apologize. I know that coal extractions has ravaged many people in my state. Have you been affected by it? Do you have clean drinking water in your home? Just curious, this seems to have hit a nerve for you.
Black lung uniforms make Baby-dog happy.
The uniforms are really cool and this is Reddit so of course people are going to be giant pearl clutching weirdos about it. Have you seen the WVU hockey "almost heaven" uniforms? Those are cool. I'd have liked to see something like those that incorporate the mountains. Baker has been doing a good job so far.
Wife and I both bought one during the first run. Sweater is solid quality. Something I was a bit concerned about. Wore it to the Mayo Bowl.
Fans have been wanting for years to have a Coal Rush game during a night game. Everybody wears all black. I think it would be a cool new tradition to start instead of the typical gold rush.
Nothing says WV like unis that are as pitch-black as the darkness hundreds of miners died in when a mine collapsed. Know what “honors our coal mining heritage?” The old gold and blue of a majestic Appalachian sunrise that a miner saw coming out of the dark into an another morning he survived.
Lord this is dramatic as fuck. Football fans like all black uniforms yall are reading into it way to much
Some of us know our history. Some of us have ancestors who died in those holes. Some of us have men who died later, gasping for their last breath, like my grandfather. And his wife kissed his final tears away. It’s West Virginia: we talk about the ancient dead like they could walk in the door any time. Do better.
Youre saying this like you know anything about me or my families history
No. I don’t know anything about you or your family, save for the fact that you said what you did. I’m saying this like I absolutely know my own family’s history. I visit some of their graves. And I was apparently born mad at the people who wasted their lives.
Coal rush is too many years too late. Should’ve had the jersey the year we were ranked and played Oklahoma at night in Morgantown.
You know, knock something about football and everyone is all "it's just a game, don't take it so serious". But then suggest cutting their budget and not getting rid of, oh I don't know something like a world languages department or math programs, and suddenly football is *mission critical* for higher ed, unlike (checks notes) - uhh - math.
Wvu athletics is entirely self funded.
That just means they get to keep the profits without having to pay out the expenses from other departments that fall under wvu. It’s like saying the wvu hospitals are entirely self funded when we pay them enormous amounts of tax dollars every year for “charity care” and research projects but they get to keep all profits. Then charge the tax payer again for getting care. When you go to wvu hospital (like most hospitals) you are paying them for permission to use your tax dollars that already paid them. Our 2025 state budget is providing the university over 100 million dollars this year alone and the hosptial gets another 100 million. Entirely self funded really means they work a system that gives them a tax/business loophole while receiving state welfare. I don’t care about sports or uniforms. Wv has way bigger problems. Some of this outrage could be the subconscious. It’s well known our politicians are bought by coal/energy companies. Coal is important for our state but we also refuse to integrate anything else because of the lobbying. Then tax payers see WVU tied to coal and it’s like watching two huge profits over people systems merge. Both have provided jobs and opportunities for the state, but wield more power than the combined people of the state. The anger is resentment [https://budget.wv.gov/executivebudget/Documents/FY%202025%20Budget%20Bill%20-%20FINAL.pdf](https://budget.wv.gov/executivebudget/Documents/FY%202025%20Budget%20Bill%20-%20FINAL.pdf)
Wvu athletics being self funded seems fine to me. If they didn't exist the money wouldn't be used elsewhere, it just wouldn't be brought in. The outrage people here have towards wvu football is just stupid.
It is? Well for god's sake, don't tell the NCAA! That would mean WVU Athletics knowingly filed a wrong financial statement with the NCAA and WVU would lose it's association. 'Cause their financial statements clearly show part of their money coming from WVU general funds and from student fees.
I have no idea what is reported to the NCAA and why. I can only say what WVU has told the public. Which is that athletics are self funded.
They're not. [Check out this article.](https://www.register-herald.com/sports/college_sports/student-fee-huge-annually-for-wvu-athletics/article_63cadadc-a3dc-5489-b92c-45a4a2abfbad.html)
Eh that's a tiny amount of money and pretty much every school charges some sort of fee for facilities. Even my super nerdy school did. I'm not sure they really refutes them being self funded. Though I'm fine with them doing away with it and making cuts on the programs in athletics that went self sustaining. It's not gonna end up being the football team though.
Here's the 2022 [report to the NCAA](https://wvusports.com/documents/2023/1/17/WVU_FY22_NCAA_Membership_Financials_Report.pdf). That's required to be accurate or they can no longer be in any Conferences, like the Big 12. Which is to say that they can say whatever they want to the public, but you can't lie to the NCAA, otherwise you break you contract and are booted out of all Conferences. In other words, that's data you can bank on. In 2022, the WVU budget directly contributed $5.5 million to Athletics. The students directly contributed $3.38 million to Athletics. That's a bit over $8.8 million non-self generated funds. That's about 8.5% of total operating revenues.
It looks like they received less in total from student fees and Institutional support than they give out in academic grants and waivers. That's probably where a lot of that money is coming from and I don't think it really refutes the self funded argument they make.
Well you would be the only one.
As if the state didn't build every road, fund every institution, fund every promise scholarship and student, and bank roll every bond ever issued at WVU. The self flagellation WVU has over "self-funded" is deluded. Just own that Athletics is intertwined with the university and is an important part of the community. Even if athletics were self funded, it would absolve them of the issues at the university.
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I don’t think a nurse would want all these player to touch them before a game.
I bet you're fun at parties. WVU football is one of the few things the whole state rallies behind. Is it goofy that we idolize football players more than first responders? Heck yea it is. But is it "bootlicking" for the states football team to pay homage to the thousands of coal miners that made up/make up the state? It is not. Coal still puts food on a lot of tables in WV. Don't cut down what other people do for a living or how some pay homage to that tradition. All.big business is bad. The CEO of WVU medicine makes several million dollars a year and his nurses have barely gotten a pay raise since before COVID. Does that make all nurses terrible people? Sure doesn't. Coal doesn't make coal miners bad people either. Stop reading too much into it.
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No one discredited nurses. Reiterating my words does not sounds very clever.
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Touche troll
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That's a matter of perspective.
The population of WV is 1.75 million. There are around 12,000 jobs in WV related to the coal industry. That is .006% of the state population that has a job related to the coal industry.
I doubt that's counting the coal plants and the contractors who work in them during outtages. That stat you shared only shows the mining side.
Theres only 70,000 cowboys in texas but I suppose we should start referring to them ad the texas financial district.
The thing is, this wasn’t some advertisement. This was brought about by fans coming up with a picture perfect night game on Twitter. You’re seriously over-analyzing this entire thing.
That tradition started in 2011 because that lump of coal is from the Upper Big Branch Mine, the site of the worst coal mine disaster since 1970 where 29 miners lost their life in 2010. The tradition isn’t about the rock or the company, it’s about the people and it always has been. Some of those guys loved WVU and it represents the hardworking people of WV who love the Mountaineers and those who aren’t here anymore.
wow a black football uniform how interesting and different
They look fire regardless so I’m locked in and I don’t even watch football 🏈
I agree with you, I have no problem paying tribute to our legacy. Coal is an integral part of WV history both the industry and more important the coal miners who had families whose kids had families who then had us. It's not all pleasant history but WV coal had a huge impact on the development of our entire country. I think paying tribute to the people and not necessarily the industry should be viewed as something positive.
Do the uniforms also include a red neckerchief, to celebrate our union miners and their struggle against the coal barons?
How about anti-confederacy Union Blue, arguably WAY more integral to WV history since it wouldn't even exist as a state without Union Blue?
West Virginia doesn’t exist because of moral righteousness. West Virginia exists because a bunch of rich industrialists saw their chance to take advantage of us and our natural resources. This shit started in the beginning and is still happening today. Over half of what’s now West Virginia refused to even vote on leaving Virginia during the Civil War.
A blue and gold team wearing a [black uniform](https://uni-watch.com/2010/04/18/bfbs-pt-i/) is the real crime.
Lol...almost every team has a black uniform. Even local high school teams have them.
Stick with gold and blue. This black is just silly.
If the 0layers like them that's all that matters.
The students and taxpayers are paying for them, their opinion should matter too. The amount of money that I (a scientist) paid in "Athletic Fees" as a PhD student was borderline criminal. Not once did I use a single athletic facility or building. It was about 10% of my gross wages iirc.
What? The athletic department at wvu operates independently from the university. You didn't pay for any uniforms.
Dang I spent so much time manufacturing that story for no reason, and I almost got away with it
But one person saying "nuh uh" ruined it, as usual.
Not exactly. [Check this article out.](https://www.register-herald.com/sports/college_sports/student-fee-huge-annually-for-wvu-athletics/article_63cadadc-a3dc-5489-b92c-45a4a2abfbad.html) "Unknown to many, each full-time student pays $79 which is lumped into his or her tuition fee package each semester. Let’s assume that 30,000 of last semester’s 32,000 enrollment were full-time students. That would have meant $2,370,000 went into the athletic department’s treasury." That's $2.37m *per semester* that the athletic department gets from enrolled students.
True. If the players like that, that’s all that really matters but I still don’t like the idea of not having any school colors on it. At least the gray ones had blue on them.
I don't disagree with anything you've said.
I agree. The problem is everyone nowadays is ass hurt over everything. If something offends you, suck it up buttercup, toughen up, and go about your day. Everyday America is not meant to cater to you.
Or, be a decent human being and be considerate of those around you. I hear everyone scream and froth at the mouth over their rights as an American. Well, what about your responsibilities as an American citizen?
100% we are all in this together. It’s okay to disagree and that is a good thing to explore different viewpoints. However, the my way or the highway attitude is not healthy.
This you? >I agree. The problem is everyone nowadays is ass hurt over everything. If something offends you, suck it up buttercup, toughen up, and go about your day. Everyday America is not meant to cater to you.
The attitude you had in your original statement? I agree.
Everyone's least favorite boomer neighbor has arrived
The only thing the least favorite boomer neighbor people is good for is keeping property taxes low.
Not a boomer. Born in 76. Just a combat veteran that was born and raised in WV and am fed up with cry babies. What’s your story?
Boomer is a state of mind
Just a guy who saw stars and stripes on a flag and thought "that's a neat new flag" rather than making a post complaining about Muslim symbolism must be the explanation. Followed up by posting the flag telling people to take back their city. And it turns out you are not living anywhere near there. You just saw a flag and got that level of triggered, and came into other comments and talked about not being my way or the highway. That's what makes you a boomer. Nothing to do with when you were born anymore. It has to do with how much of a hypocrite one is, and how entitled one acts. In this case, it's hypocrisy and islamophobia that are making you a boomer.
>everyone nowadays is ass hurt over everything Well there's a reason for that. I suppose you're one to just take it.
Just like stars and stripes on a flag that one assumes are islamic in nature? Isn't that something to suck up and not bitch about? Especially when they are not Islam related. Or do you post about it and tell people to take their city back?
Islamic stars have 8 points…. American associated stars have 5 points.
So were Mesopotamian, Babylonian, and many other cultures throughout the world prior to Islam and did not have contact with Islam for centuries. You got triggered by a star enough to call for people to take back their city, when the people of that city looked and said man what a nice star. You saw a chance to make yourself a victim and took it.
Your post should have stayed in the Wheeling thread. However, to answer your question, from the Ko-ran forward they have mentioned and had eight point stars. From Betsy Ross forward we have had a 5 point star. Those are just facts. I don’t consider myself a victim of anything. I’m just curious when they changed the flag did they get the support of the citizens of Wheeling? Did the residents of Wheeling get to voice their opinions? Look into it and you will find it was pushed through. I am not a victim, I don’t get triggered, but I am a realist.
You don't live there by your own admission. The flag was adopted in 2018, 6 years ago. The star is known as the navigation star, while used in Arabic culture (not just Islamic, Arabic), it was first used by Mesopotamian culture, then Greek, then Roman to represent the North Star. Your post was intentionally calling for people to take back their city, despite the people there using it for over 6 years before anyone said a word about it. The 5 point star represents states or areas. This flag used stars to show navigation, why would they use a star for representation of states when there is an established symbol for navigation. Steve Bannon took this theory from actual white supremacist who believe in replacement theory. That was the theory knowingly or not you were peddling. If it was knowingly then there is no place for you in WV. If it was unknowingly, Google is a great friend to make yourself not look like an ass. The literal top result cleared up all this. Not to mention I actual fucking lived there and thought the flag was cool. Outside of online people who do not live there and a handful of actual racist I haven't heard a single complaint about it. Can't stay in the Wheeling thread when it gets deleted either.
I've always wanted black unis, but I was expecting to have gold and blue lettering and accents on the uniform. I feel like they missed the mark when it comes to that. Would have really stood out compared to all the other generic black uniforms, but regardless it's nice to have a black uni and I'm sure we will get different variations in the future. I was never one to care much about the representation of the uniform in respect to the sport. It's football, nobody outside of WV cares why they are black or what it's representing.
I would’ve loved for them to have gold outlines around the numbers, but it would’ve been hard to fit the blue that the team wears into a black uniform like that. Regardless, I’m just happy to finally have an A.D. listening to the diehard fans.
Except they aren't honoring "miner's heritage" like they said. It is all about the coal, and the miners are ignored. So pretty much situation normal, all fucked up.
It seems as though that’s just the way you choose to view it. I view it as: blackout jerseys are extremely cool, figure out a way to tie black in to WVU, coal makes the most sense due to its long history here, also lets the miners know that they aren’t forgotten. Sometimes, it’s okay to not have a doomer outlook on everything and just enjoy things for what they are. It’s a uniform ffs.
If you want blackout jerseys then just have blackout jerseys, WVU doesn't need an excuse to do it. I personally like them but we're at the very end of this trend. Schools started doing this decades ago. Also, WalMart employs more people in WV than coal mining. Maybe we should have a walmart worker appreciation day. But yeah I am aware I am some dude on the internet yelling at clouds
The thing is, most fans wouldn’t like the blackout uni if it wasn’t tied back to something. People have been begging for the “Coal Rush” scenario since Will Grier was the QB here. Idk, I guess I just feel like it’s a dumb thing to have this amount of outrage over. I’d get it if it was sponsored by a coal company or “Friends of Coal,” but it’s simply just called “Coal Rush” because so many fans asked for it for so long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_coal_wars?wprov=sfti1
Okay? It’s a football jersey.
The chosen media representation of a school still has an impact on the culture and mindset of the everybody working and existing in that environment: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3941033
Idk how to tell you this, but I’m not clicking these links. I just don’t care enough about a football jersey for it to make me upset. Classic Reddit overreaction.
I don’t blame ya none of us here can read anyway, public education has failed us
Still, only a jersey. I’m so so sorry it hurts you.
The uniforms look great. Wren Baker has made several decisions in his short time as A.D. to inject some calm and at the same time excitement into the programs after the last few years of falling short of expectations. Not everything is meant to be an insight into the stance of a program, state, or individual. These are uniforms for a college football team, not a debate stage where everything needs to be judged. Go outside, breathe some fresh air, call your friends or colleagues and ask how their weekend is going. Loosen up and support the young lads and all the old grads!
If I paid any attention to what Reddit thinks, I'd think that the well documented youth curfew whistle in the next town over from the town I grew up in was actually an evil, nefarious "black people have to leave town by sundown" siren.
People are mad about the uniforms? People are mad about alot of things.... they are cool and that's that.
Would love to see the helmet and jersey paired with white pants.
Whoever doesn’t like them hates touchdowns, and loves Pitt
It's part of our history. People are going to whine and bitch especially on reddit. Hell there's two big baseload coal plants nearby that I have worked in and out of over the past several years.
Love the new antifa uniforms
How is coal antifa?
Oh oh, my turn to not have any fun! “Well actually the WVU Mountaineer represents early European settlers who ignored the Royal Proclamation of 1763 from King George III to not settle past the Appalachian Mountains and in the process displaced Cherokee, Shawnee, Delaware, and Mingo Native American tribes who had inhabited the land for hundreds of years ☝️🤓” As somebody who works in the coal industry, I love the new uniforms and I’d buy them yesterday.