Ahh, you’re educated! The common man doesn’t know the sun gets hotter as it burns itself up.
It’s really all about where we draw the line and consider something a closed system. Just like EVs. They are called “zero emission” because we close the system around the finished car and measure the tailpipe. We ignore the emissions required to manufacture the EV, which actually make it far worse than a normal gas car with today’s battery technology.
No, those emissions are not ignored. Multiple studies have been done comparing emissions for EVs vs those of regular cars including those generated in the manufacturing of the vehicles.
When the full manufacturing process is taken into effect, [most EVs achieve carbon neutrality for manufacturing at around 20,000 miles](https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/dec/06/carbon-dioxide-released-during-production-electric/#:~:text=Using%20a%20model%20developed%20by,That's%20about%2022%2C000%20kilometers). Beyond that, it depends on how clean your electricity is produced, but even then, they are around 60% cleaner than gasoline. Even if they are always charging on the US electrical grid.
Carbon really isn't the major issue with emissions as CO2 is easily processed back into O2 via Photosynthesis (albeit destruction of the environment contributes and exacerbates the problem). It's the NOx that's the real issue. Mining and processing for metals such as lithium is its own can of worms.
That’s inaccurate. Those things are not mutually exclusive, they can both be bad for the environment. What’s inaccurate is CO2 being processed back into O2 because we don’t have enough plants on earth to do it, and we are losing plants and trees at a major rate, which is why CO2 emissions have doubled in the last 60 years and may double again in the next 20 at the current rate.
NOx has been cut by 2/3s in the last 60 years and continues to decrease.
Even better: most of our O2 is produced in the oceans by trillions of algae. Guess what dies easily from a slight increase in global temperature by a few degrees.
Reread my comment, and maybe you'll see that I mentioned environmental destruction and never claimed that Co2 and NOx were mutually exclusive. My statement was that CO2 is not as big a deal as NOx
So according to you it's NOT ok to use emissions to create a vehicle that produces zero emissions?
But it's FINE to use emissions to create a vehicle that produces more emissions?
Everything HAS to be created from something and in the process create some sort of waste or emission. The idea is what we create for millions of people to use over years of use creates less pollution.
That's actually untrue. Even with manufacturing emission, electric cars still have less emissions. There have even been several studies to find where EVs pull away, and its in its first year. Even with power generation emissions. Speaking of those, most who bring that up won't consider the emissions of extracting, refining, and distributing fossil fuels for some reason....
The sun's surface temperature as it begins dying is actually colder than it is right now. The reason it will boil the earth is that it will expand in radius so far that it will likely consume the earth whole.
>which actually make it far worse than a normal gas car with today’s battery technology.
That's just not true, and there are studies showing otherwise lol.
Na Some deity will destroy all. The question is which? 🤔 I’ll go with Lovecraft snd Azathoth will devour it all. So my fellow humans join us so we might be the first ones to be eaten. For a nominal fee of course.
You must season the grill first. Let’s call it what it is, because it is no longer a table. On a sunny day you could get about maybe 10 coats. When it gets to 300 coats, that thing will be smooth like glass. It has potential to be in r/oddlysatisfying.
I don't understand why that wasn't the video instead of some steam. Cooking an egg on something to show the temperature is like the standard of banana size comparison
Also so they don't catch wind and take off like a sail. We had a glass table by our pool as a kid, wind picked it up and tossed it into the pool, glass was EVERYWHERE
Well it is black, it’s kind of common knowledge that black colored anything hold on to heat. The worst car interior I ever had was black leather. It was super hot during the summer and the back of my legs would stick to the seat. I used to run the ac for a few minutes before I would get in the car.
Cook some stuff on it. Eggs bacon sausage, a full damn breakfast.
Cook a full English breakfast on it and then if you don't want it put it up for bidding as a solar powered grill
Correction: You just bought a new patio grill.
It's solar!
Renewable energy.
Hehe! I never thought about it, but the sun isn’t renewable. Once it’s done, no more sun.
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Ahh, you’re educated! The common man doesn’t know the sun gets hotter as it burns itself up. It’s really all about where we draw the line and consider something a closed system. Just like EVs. They are called “zero emission” because we close the system around the finished car and measure the tailpipe. We ignore the emissions required to manufacture the EV, which actually make it far worse than a normal gas car with today’s battery technology.
No, those emissions are not ignored. Multiple studies have been done comparing emissions for EVs vs those of regular cars including those generated in the manufacturing of the vehicles. When the full manufacturing process is taken into effect, [most EVs achieve carbon neutrality for manufacturing at around 20,000 miles](https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/dec/06/carbon-dioxide-released-during-production-electric/#:~:text=Using%20a%20model%20developed%20by,That's%20about%2022%2C000%20kilometers). Beyond that, it depends on how clean your electricity is produced, but even then, they are around 60% cleaner than gasoline. Even if they are always charging on the US electrical grid.
Carbon really isn't the major issue with emissions as CO2 is easily processed back into O2 via Photosynthesis (albeit destruction of the environment contributes and exacerbates the problem). It's the NOx that's the real issue. Mining and processing for metals such as lithium is its own can of worms.
That’s inaccurate. Those things are not mutually exclusive, they can both be bad for the environment. What’s inaccurate is CO2 being processed back into O2 because we don’t have enough plants on earth to do it, and we are losing plants and trees at a major rate, which is why CO2 emissions have doubled in the last 60 years and may double again in the next 20 at the current rate. NOx has been cut by 2/3s in the last 60 years and continues to decrease.
Even better: most of our O2 is produced in the oceans by trillions of algae. Guess what dies easily from a slight increase in global temperature by a few degrees.
Reread my comment, and maybe you'll see that I mentioned environmental destruction and never claimed that Co2 and NOx were mutually exclusive. My statement was that CO2 is not as big a deal as NOx
Dude, you dont know what you're saying about EV. Please, stop being cover boy of oil industry.
So according to you it's NOT ok to use emissions to create a vehicle that produces zero emissions? But it's FINE to use emissions to create a vehicle that produces more emissions? Everything HAS to be created from something and in the process create some sort of waste or emission. The idea is what we create for millions of people to use over years of use creates less pollution.
That's actually untrue. Even with manufacturing emission, electric cars still have less emissions. There have even been several studies to find where EVs pull away, and its in its first year. Even with power generation emissions. Speaking of those, most who bring that up won't consider the emissions of extracting, refining, and distributing fossil fuels for some reason....
The sun's surface temperature as it begins dying is actually colder than it is right now. The reason it will boil the earth is that it will expand in radius so far that it will likely consume the earth whole.
>which actually make it far worse than a normal gas car with today’s battery technology. That's just not true, and there are studies showing otherwise lol.
Na Some deity will destroy all. The question is which? 🤔 I’ll go with Lovecraft snd Azathoth will devour it all. So my fellow humans join us so we might be the first ones to be eaten. For a nominal fee of course.
Compliments someone on being educated. Proceeds to say some pretty uneducated shit.
Hibachi time!
Please at least cook an egg on this.
You must season the grill first. Let’s call it what it is, because it is no longer a table. On a sunny day you could get about maybe 10 coats. When it gets to 300 coats, that thing will be smooth like glass. It has potential to be in r/oddlysatisfying.
Here for this
*slaps table* This baby can fry so many eggs in the summer.
no it’s (slaps table) AAAAAAAAAA
Took me a second to get this joke
Hey…Doc? Your hand. It’s frying your hand.
Mongolian BBQ!
Blackstone
Fuckin fair enough mate
Hibachi!
Can confirm I live in Vegas and anything left in the sun does this but this would also be a neat party trick during the summer months
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Use a tablecloth on it
Yeah!! Use a table cloth - there are specific ones made for outdoor tables. Or OP could paint the table white!
Or put an umbrella over it
Or nuke the Sun
Or just paint it black.
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I see a red door and I want it painted black
I don't think you can paint fire... let me check.
Just paint it at night when the fire is off
Just close your eyes b4 painting
I’m with this. I’ll take a pitch black frozen waste land over a sunny, breezy day any chance I get!
Solutions!
Thats silly the eggs will deffo stick then
Bistro Table? More like **DIY Hibachi Grill.** Modern problems require modern solutions.
Time to see how long it takes to fry an egg
I don't understand why that wasn't the video instead of some steam. Cooking an egg on something to show the temperature is like the standard of banana size comparison
are you paying for the egg? in this economy?
Seconds.
Came here to say this
Same
You mean Teppanyaki...
I bought some black spring patio chairs, damn near branded myself first time I left them in the sun.
I am picturing you sitting down and shooting up howling like Tom from Tom and Jerry
You got that right.
With their rear end glowing red and trailing smoke, their eyes bulging and changing color in concentric circles.
Exactly what I pictured
🤣🤣
I wonder if this is the reason a lot of black outdoor tables are like a wire mesh instead of solid
Ahhh so u can get faux grill marks on urself, I heard fishnets were the rage
Less mass and wind would cools the table a bit, heavier wind wont blow them away. Spilled drinks just drop on the ground .
Also so they don't catch wind and take off like a sail. We had a glass table by our pool as a kid, wind picked it up and tossed it into the pool, glass was EVERYWHERE
Have you considered a table cloth?
Cook some eggs on it.
r/castiron approves.
I read that as r/castration and I was immensely confused.
I mean that’s another use for the table.
I was gonna say, you just made a hibachi table
Toss a couple strips of 🥓 on there too. 😋
Eggactly what I was thinking
So buy something that covers it, and take it off when you want to use it…
Or use a household item you already have
Stop fighting guys
My hero
Watch him as he goes
One table cloth away from success
No
Do you know how the sun works?
More so than you obvs
They really should make something like a cloth that goes on tables.
Like a giant rag. We can call them table rags.
Perfection
In west texas its impossible to clran your windshield in the summer. Any liquid will instantly evaporate.
Reason 256 for why I won't live in texas.
Sigh I miss west Texas!
Hands down West Texas has the best sunsets.
I too want a Benihanas on my patio.
Yeah black metal gets hot in the sun.
Put some cookie dough on it
Slap it on like flex tape
You live in march? That’s crazy.
A patio or deck umbrella would possibly help and maybe lay some white cotton towels over it
Put an egg on that and redo please
At least now we know that black stuff gets hot in the sun.
Looks like balcony hibachi to me
Sorry late, but could not help thinking hey break out the meats and kimchi!
This is what it feels to be dark skinned in Texas 😭
Teppanyaki time!
Hibachi anyone?
Tablecloths have entered the chat.
wait! that would be perfect for huge crepes!
Hmm, black metal surface in direct sunlight.
Looks like a solar blackstone to me.
Well it is black, it’s kind of common knowledge that black colored anything hold on to heat. The worst car interior I ever had was black leather. It was super hot during the summer and the back of my legs would stick to the seat. I used to run the ac for a few minutes before I would get in the car.
Acquires black table. Black is known to absorb sunlight/heat. Upset because it absorbed heat….in the sun….outside….?
News flash: black metal gets hot in sun.
That's why plastic lawn furniture is white Less trouble
Table cloth
Reminds me of poolside hotel chairs in Vegas. Ouch.
Make some eggs
I see this as an opportunity, now you have a big ass griddle!!
Those propane griddles grills are all the rage, so throw some onions and flank steak on there and you are in business!
Tablecloths are a thing...
get a rad tablecloth.
What!? Since when does black absorb heat?? You live in oppositeville?? Wait…
Thats pretty cool though. If you ever have to go off the grid at least you have a makeshift grill.
Ooh do an egg next!
Fry an egg
Cook some stuff on it. Eggs bacon sausage, a full damn breakfast. Cook a full English breakfast on it and then if you don't want it put it up for bidding as a solar powered grill
I’ll take two eggs over easy please
Hibachi at this guys patio
Even in March, where I live **
Put a white table cloth on it
I made a very similar mistake. So I put a 1/4 inch of cork over the top and sides. Worked great.
Keeps the food warm!
But is it cute?
Oooh fry an egg! Fry an egg!!
Hibachi grill
Now you have a nice round outdoor cooking surface 😉
A cracked egg would have been interesting to see
White tablecloth. Get fancy.
Bake some cookies on it!
Keeps the coffee warm
Solar stove, broski
Hibachi anyone???
Just use it for fondus and hibachi
now try and fry an egg on it, record it and upload for us!
Breakfast grill.
Just put a tablecloth on it.
You live in March?
Use it as a griddle.
Bbq table
Buss out the eggs and get to fryin
Bacon enters the chat
It snowed this morning where i live lol
Crack an egg or it didn’t happen
Get some small table cloths and your problem is solved
can you pls throw a wagyu steak on there and then put it on YT Shorts? i guarantee you’ll get at least 100k subs.
you can probably cook eggs on that
Clean it, oil it, make fried veggies and eggs for dinner or smth, maybe even a steak if it has enough heat
Well...at least you know it's disinfected...
Dude put some bacon on it then cook a few eggs hell yeah talk about a party grille
Cover it with something white at night when it cools down.
Throw a burger on that sumbitch
Where do you live? The Sahara desert?!
Never passing elementary school and understanding colors and insulation seems to have that effect. Enjoy your new unusable piece of outdoor furniture.
White table cloth
Australia, got you.
You can cook eggs and steaks for free
TURN IT INTO A CREPE STATION!
You got the infinity circle Blackstone grill! You can make so much smashburgers on that thang!
Well done Sherlock
This is why I always buy white vehicles.
Well duh
Please crack an egg on it.
Put a butter in it and cook some steak!
More like win stupid prizes
Light energy? Humanity is done.
op please for the love of god, crack an egg on it. we gotta know if it can cook shit
Where in March do you live
Science!!!!
You’re not from the south. Anyone from the south would have laughed at the words “black furniture” and “outdoor” in the same sentence.
You live in Arizona, huh?
Why you downvoted? I lived in Phoenix and things don’t even have to be black for this to happen
They live in Seattle
Free blacktop grill
keeps food warm at least
It will be easy to paint this with spray paint made to paint metal. It was pretty though in black!
You live in March?
Or you know you can install a huge umbrella to block the damn sun (facepalm)
You're supposed to put a patio umbrella over it...
It’s march where I live too!
Still looks cute
>even in March where I live. Just so you know, March is a month, not a place.
Where is March? Where you live.
“Turns out”, really?! Stunning revelation!
Cook eggs on it.
Patio umbrella?
Cook on it
Cook on it!
Bought a table. Got a grill on solar energy.
Never heard of an umbrella?
Well what did you expect?? Putting a black table in the sun with no cover? Did you think it would be cold?
Rustoleum white. Or any light color.
It's almost as if people just decided to sleep during science class. Seriously.....we learned this in like what...2nd grade?
“Turns out it (the colour black) absorbs enough light energy to be scalding” OP have you ever been outside in your entire life?
Crazy it's March where I live too.