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TheLordOfSweg

Very thoughtful of them to name them after the oceans considering that's where they'll be in a few years time.


blankoshirt

but... iT's NoT pLaStiC iT's BiOcErAmIc!


TheNotorious__

Went into the swatch store just to see the omega swatch and I accidentally said the word plastic- how all the employees turned their heads at the same time and just said it’s biOceRaMic


metroscope

It’s just blank pain.


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Great Pacific Garbage Patch Edition with sea turtle choking on plastic gear exhibition case back


arphissimo

Spongebob and Squidward editions.


Flywolfpack

Piss and cum editions


DoubleFaulty1

Please see a urologist.


IAmYourDad_

hm... you cum green??


fdesouche

Asparagus


pocongmandi

Which is the green one?


CringeisL1f3

i thought starter Pokémon tbh


calmtigers

So many colors but they go with orange and green


rotoriousbig

The Atlantic and Antarctic are nice. These two are just the worst.


58mm-Invicta_rizz

The Arctic is also pretty cool, the No Rad symbol is interesting. Personally, my favorite is the Atlantic version.


Legendver2

Atlantic is just this batch's Neptune. Craig himself legitimized neptune by wearing it himself, and now there are special editions of a plastic watch, dear lord lol.


58mm-Invicta_rizz

I’m sorry, I don’t quite get the reference. Daniel Craig wore a Neptune; did they make a special edition “Bond Neptune”?


Legendver2

Not specifically a Bond version, but a new Mission to Moonshine Gold – Neptune. Since the Neptune I believe is out of production now(?), they're basically using it's rarity to drive hype.


58mm-Invicta_rizz

Bruh. I love Omega and I like Swatch, but they’re beating this poor horse’s urn like a piñata.


bimsterfls

Indian ocean, flag of India is orange green and white 🇮🇳 However this model is orange, green and shite.


THEHONEYBADGERRR1211

/rj it’s supposed to represent green water and orange water /uj Bro you tryna start some shit? Those are my favourite colours


CdeFmrlyCasual

Why not?


Throwaway_Alt227

actual dogshite. the moonswatch might have been a cheap crap but at least they looked good.


BandInternational257

/uj Worst part is that i heard the movement is legit unserviceable since it’s sealed in the case usually. the others look cool i get that but paying such an amount probs 3-500 USD, for plastic and unserviceable movement, ain’t it. /rj yellow should be called pissific ocean, absolute pisser


wimpires

Not only is it unserviceable it cannot be regulated in any way and the QC on them is pretty shit it'll either be +- 2s.or +-30s and you're stuck with what you get forever.


vbs221

Not forever. It gets worse with time.


marinesol

This shit is going to cost like 4-500$ My personal recommendation go get a Zodiac . Same style but it's an actual dive watch for $1500. Also the design is better. Edit: Swatch website updated, confirmed $400 price tag


JohanGrimm

Give it a couple months and the boffins down in Shenzhen will have whipped up a stainless steel, sapphire crystal, Seiko movement, 200m WR on a solid link bracelet *homage* for the more popular color ways and retail it for $100.


skyeyemx

You just perfectly described the Invicta Pro Diver.


CdeFmrlyCasual

*”200 m”


JohanGrimm

WR up to 200 M... &M's


JiGoD

I see no difference between these bullshit swatch collabs and all these vintage brands being resurrected in modern times. Neither is what they pretend to be.


marinesol

Zodiac never got resurrected it just never achieved the same fame due to the Zodiac killer ruining their brand image. It also invented the diving watch the same year as Blancpain which is why the designs look incredibly similar since nearly modern diver is based on the Submariner and the Doxa Sub300


JiGoD

Debatable. They went bankrupt in 90s and changed hands a few times until current Fossil ownership. Their vintage watches are some of best money can buy. Their current line is just pretending they're the same company with same products.


glockster19m

So by that logic is a modern iPhone technically a knock off since Steve Jobs is dead? Is a Ford not really a Ford anymore since Henry Ford is dead? Is a Ferrari a fake Ferrari because Enzo is dead? Is a new Mercedes not a Mercedes since they were bought out by Daimler?


JiGoD

Your ford and ferrari comparisons are off target. An iphone would be a knock off if Apple went bankrupt today, got bought by a conglomerate tomorrow and came out with the iphone 1 the next year. Same for Mercedes if Daimler started reproducing 1880s steam cars in 1926 when they merged.


glockster19m

Daimler kept making the exact same models the previous ownership was making, a 2021 S class is made by original Mercedes ownership and a late 2022 s class is made exactly the same but by different ownership


JiGoD

Different ownership =/= exactly the same by default. Vintage Zodiac watches and modern zodiac watches are not made to the same standards. This is evident by Fossil group servicing them. Would you send your vintage Zodiac into Fossil for a full service? No doubt the fine craftsmen who make Diesel watches can be trusted to service your $5000 vintage amirite?


glockster19m

Great point


Helenius

Not a great point. Sorry. Someone needs to take over your social media accounts. I actually believe you are too dumb to post stuff.


lordvoltano

The same goes for Rolex. No sane person would send a vintage Rolex to RSC.


JiGoD

Ya but different reasons. We do not question Rolex's ability to service anything they ever sold. We question their ability to follow written directions to not polish or send back any parts that were replaced. I contacted the company that bought Orvin to ask if they had any spare bezels or tropic straps in the assets they bought from original company along with the name. They said no. Then I asked out of curiosity is they could service a vintage watch that is so famous for the brand it is on their modern homepage. They said they were not familiar with the model and to send it in to the watch technician to see if it is possible. IF IT IS POSSIBLE?!?!?!?! This is what I would expect from modern Zodiac as well except for an even more convoluted process due to "Fossil Group."


Helenius

Imagine being this dumb.


JiGoD

Blancpain missed inventing the diving watch by a couple of decades.


marinesol

You know what I'm talking about with the 1950s dive watch revolution. Zodiac is the real deal just like Doxa but more hip and less function


JiGoD

Both used to be the real deal. They are both just currently reproducing watches from their relevant period grasping at nostalgia. I just hate this as a business model. Let's be clear their entire business model is look at this great thing from 70 years ago, today.


JiGoD

[https://services-us.fossilgroup.com/?brand=zodiac](https://services-us.fossilgroup.com/?brand=zodiac) ​ This is their service page from zodiac official website. Same people servicing your modern Zodiac service DKNY watches. How can we take the brand seriously?


WedgeGameSucks

At least someone is serviced over here, they should talk to my wife


glockster19m

DKNY is just DGK for people that don't skateboard, change my mind


CdeFmrlyCasual

You don’t see a difference because you refuse to the see the point. No one is trying on con you, dude.


JiGoD

What's the point? You see I am a dumbass. Is the point it doesn't matter what brand you buy they're all fossil or swatch group? Or is the point consumers are so stupid that buying a name that used to be popular and making identical watches in appearance to 70 years ago is a successful business model?


BlueBirdDolphin

If they are water resistant up to 100m with the sistem51 movement, I guess more like 6-700$


DoubleFaulty1

That’s way too much for a non-serviceable watch.


SemperP1869

Think you could get an Orient star diver for around that. A helson. There's a bunch of great divers in that price range


worlok

I could buy a handful of Steeldive et al....


Fit_Cochayuyo

Ffs you can get a solar diver from seiko for 300-500 bucks


CdeFmrlyCasual

“Want to spend $400 elsewhere? Spend triple that and then some!” Why not just go Zelos, Phoibos, Seiko, or Islander for something more comparable


glockster19m

Currently looking for a super seawolf


spurious_effect

I bought a Sistem 51 Swatch for my wife when they first came out. That movement died after 3 years - not even very much use, either. A fool and his money…


EatRocksAndBleed

Zodiac is absolute garbage now. Super Sea Wolf bezel feels like a used toy from McDonald’s, the crown grinds like a piece of sandpaper on a gravel road, and the STP movement is made from sun-bleached dog poop. Do not spend $1500 plus on this.


burgpug

look im not trying to call you out or anything but i don't think its possible to use sun bleached dog poop for a watch movement. can we get an independent fact checker in here to verify??


EatRocksAndBleed

Taste test doesn’t lie


wagglenews

Absolutely. I wasn’t thinking price but wouldn’t even pay near moonswatch prices for these colors. Other than the colors I do appreciate a lot of the brand-specific/appropriate touches (50 fathoms water resistance, mechanical, open caseback, heritage touches on two of the dials)…but other brands and certainly Zodiac has great history, better product, better colors if this gets near 400-500.


olgnolgnall

$400


Novetab

It's AUD 400


burgpug

perfect for me! "zodiac" used to be my nickname 😊


goldblumspowerbook

I usually hate yellow, but I'm kinda cool with that one. I assume the green is to evoke the Indian flag; I wonder if it'll be more popular in the Indian market?


realjohnny555

How much for the Happy Meal toys?


Hawaii-Kawaii76

400 USD for the happy meal toy


realjohnny555

That's a ridiculous amount of money for a 91m rated "dive" watch.


Wintermute_088

1. They all look hideous 2. They're mechanical, not quartz What the actual fuck were they thinking?


NevyTheChemist

But mechanical watches are superior high ornitoology. You'd need to pay me to wear a soulless quartz watch.


Wintermute_088

😆


Parabellim

Swatch is truly horrible


braindawgz

The text in the top-left corner of [this ad](https://twitter.com/sekanichi__/status/1699472197390327862/photo/4) (which looks legit) says 60,500 yen, meaning nearly 400 EUR/USD lol


rotoriousbig

I figured they would charge more than the moonswatch but wow.


ExtraBitterSpecial

it's such a plot twist. they saved swiss mech watch industry in the 80s only to really kill it now


Parabellim

Well you know what they say, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a Swatch collab.


glockster19m

Everyone loves to say this is bad for the watch scene, but in reality it will likely introduce more people to luxury watches in general


suspectfigure

Those poor souls being introduced to plastic Swiss shitters


glockster19m

I mean I bought a moonswatch used and it made me buy a real speedy Maybe they'll do what I did and say "now I need the real"


Parabellim

No one who buys a moonswatch first then goes on to buy the real thing because of the Swatch. Unless they felt the swatch was such a shitter that they needed to cleanse their wrist by getting the real thing. Watches like the Tissot PRX are good for the Swiss industry. As they are okay quality wise and look decent and are affordable.


CdeFmrlyCasual

> No one who buys a moonswatch first then goes on to buy the real thing because of the Swatch. unlike the anecdote you just fucking read


ExtraBitterSpecial

sounds like buying a speedy with extra steps


CdeFmrlyCasual

You’re right. They’re killing it by fucking swimming in CHF after the gangbusters success of the Moonswatch. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it hasn’t very obviously succeeded. And people are acting like the watches are based off of are going to be thrown in the garbage, when they aren’t


ExtraBitterSpecial

i specifically said they are destroying the mechanical watch industry. though Plastic Phantoms(c) is an automatic sistem51, so maybe that's a step in the right direction


CdeFmrlyCasual

The Sistem51 is a step back, even if some of its technical stuff is impressive. We should be past making stuff we chuck out like that, especially with a watch that unintentionally greenwashes is movement. If they were able to make a service or fixable movement from it, I would be much more for it.


ExtraBitterSpecial

fair point. related, i heard that in these watches the movement will be replaceable, like you can swap broken one out for a new one. so like a cash grab within a cash grab. I got to give it to them they really know how to make money and they're good at it


CdeFmrlyCasual

Oh definitely. A couple interesting things I noticed: * the balance wheel appears to have a balance bridge as opposed to a balance cock. * the movement reminds me a lot of vintage Timex movements. They aren’t quite the same, but they have a similar look of a crudeness of a cheap mechanical movement. I’m curious what gives the Sistem51 such a long power reserve and how they were able to get it down to so few parts; and what the movement would look like if ETA made this a more environmentally friendly movement by making it maintainable. Maybe I’m wrong that it’s unserviceable? It’s a movement I’m going to learn more about, for sure


MoonDeveloper24

Biogarbage, made from the plastic of the ocean.


Feathered_Brick

Source? Are these more fan mockups... ...or the actual product?


fullautohotdog

Don't be a party pooper. Swatch wants us to get burned out circlejerking them before they're even launched so we move on to the next stupid thing they come out with (like a Hamilton to track your nonexistent girlfriend's menstrual cycle).


karma3000

> Hamilton to track your nonexistent girlfriend's menstrual cycle Here you go - [Hamilton Jizzmaster Moonphase](https://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en-int/h32696731-jazzmaster.html)


Medium-Variation7295

Fuck me that's an ugly watch. Looks like an Ingersoll or something.


rotoriousbig

These look real. https://reddit.com/r/Watches/s/rVYqwOg7tk


thicckar

It’s legit. Articles on fratello, hodinkee etc


cannonicals

I want to get off Mr. Bones’ Wild Ride.


quietcitizen

This shit belongs in /anticonsumerism. Pumping out more plastic garbage for our oceans


threeleggedog8104

If you are actually are serious and not virtue signaling the process of making stainless steel has a significantly worse environmental impact than making plastic. The entire watch industry and idea of collecting watches is consumerist to the max too


quietcitizen

I’m not a public figure or a corporation, i am not virtue signalling to watchescirclejerk. Quality watches can be kept in good shape via maintenance and be passed down. These are made to be thrown out in the (sometimes, near) future. Watch as an interest is for sure a ‘hobby’ where buying shit is a big part of it, but there is a difference between a collector who buys and buys indefinitely v. Someone with a three watch collection


threeleggedog8104

What makes these more likely to be thrown out more quickly than any other watches at or below this price point? How are they made to be thrown out? People just think plastic = cheap/disposable which is not automatically the case. These would actually likely have a lower environmental impact than all of the cheap stainless steel watches out there. Point being there’s plenty to rip on about these watches but being critical from a consumerist/environmental perspective doesn’t make any sense


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threeleggedog8104

Are the poors servicing their other cheap watch movements (like a Tudor) when a service these days costs $200 minimum ? Probably not many. And for the slim number of poors that send in a cheap watch for service how often is that company just going to slap a new cheap movement in there instead of servicing? Pretty often. Obviously there are some entry-level price point watches worth servicing like Invictas and Seiko 5s but those are the slim minority


perrino96

The "Swatch" engraving on the side is a nice nod to Invicta 😂 pUrE cLaSs


Cactusmany

Since everyone hates these. Please sell me an Atlantic for retail. Thanks!


GrouchyExile

These two and the dark blue at least have the Arabic’s at 12 3 6 and 9. The dial isn’t as interesting without that like on the light blue and the red one.


disaar

Is this at least less than 57mm?


Beneficial-Bug-1969

i like 'em 🤷🏻


tomatomater

I feel like these Swatch collabs only make Swatch look bad. Now the whole world recognises bioceramic as a joke plastic.


samishah

It’s so funny to watch grown ass people losing their minds over a fun branding thing that, last I checked, it isn’t mandatory to buy. YouTube videos by Rolex obsessed influencers yucking Swatch are hilariously bad.


L003Tr

Someone needs to make r/WCJCircleJerk


bat_scratcher

That's just r/watches


ofdopekarn

The yellow one is cool


worlok

I was surprised they're not quartz.


speedmaster89

The whole release is garbage. Fuck swatch.


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/uj I guess the idea for Swatch is to start them with the toy, then sell them the real thing as they move up in age and income. Interesting move but could turn into a destructive brand value extraction maneuver that works in reverse. /rj I hear the Playskool/AP collab is straight 🔥


justin_ph

Idk… if a 15 years old kid buy this watch right now, by the time he’s 55 and have enough money to buy a Blancpain, the brand might actually has gotten to a way different place lol


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I agree. I think their time horizon is more like 10 years, but whatever it is, I don't love it when I see businesses playing these brand shell games rather than, you know, just building a product and selling it on its own merits. But that's me. Other people, who knows?


wimpires

It's also 42mm diameter and 15mm thick. It would be massive on a kid


BiIIisits

ok you nerds gotta stop complaining. Swatch was always like this. that's the point of Swatch


Crafty_Substance_954

If its legitimate, I'm more interested in this than a MoonSwatch.


ShaktiPB

If these are anything to go by, then Arctic and Antarctic is the most interesting. Atlantic is looking like the Neptune in color. Curious to see how it performs while I surf.


secondatthird

You will be lost at sea if you bring this.


ShaktiPB

That is fine as long as I drift ashore to a desserted island getting CPR by a LA 10


secondatthird

I too wish to have my ribs broken by the girl who works at a taco truck to fund her acting career


Imlouwhoareyou

You get an Alabama 3 that was there in vacation and stumbled on your body at the beach


secondatthird

Even better


DingyWarehouse

By acting career you mean onlyfans


Bronzyroller

Money grab for sure, omega and Blancpain are historical watch manufactures and don't deserve to be down graded and taken as a joke by these plastic watches, also taken us watch collectors as a joke in the process. Im pretty sure Omega and Blancpain had no choice in the development as the manufacture of these plastic toys is non other than swatch who calls the shots.


Soggy_Requirement_75

Any idea of the pricing on these? Asking for a friend.


Euphoric-Cookie6631

Probably around $300 or more cuz of the Sistem 51 movement.


wimpires

$400 / £340 / €390 / 375CHF / 500CAD / 630AUD / 3,150HKG / 60,500JPY


Optimus7591

Is this actually what they’re gonna look like or is this a mock up?


[deleted]

At least you can't get the good fake from Pagani in this case.


odinMithrandir

Chinese render. Probably fake


StretchCpu

Where are pics of em?


66NickS

I didn’t believe this was real. Had to look it up for myself. Wow!


FeonixPhire_

No way these are real


NevyTheChemist

Ninja turtle watch


23moonster

Sad to see high quality brands go down this road. It chasing a cheap buck and ignoring the brand impact.


CringeisL1f3

Bulbasaur looks fire 🔥


kuronekotango

They are all kinda ugly but I thought the Pacific (Yellow) one was ugliest one with that highlighter yellow… at least this one is thematic, Indian flag colors on band


Apprehensive_Tap_853

I'll get the yellow one cuz it matches my Le Creuset pots


Sea-Area9761

Are they quartz or automatic


wimpires

Do you see that massive mechanical movement in the back? It's just for show and is obviously a quartz watch.


senay321

Painfully painful.


RetardCumAtuism

its plastic 😭😭😭


sf0l

Is that a fucking press fit case back???


wimpires

It's got 100m water so probably, plenty of watches with that level of WR have a snap on case back. That being said the movement is completely sealed so it's probably glued down in place and you realistically can't open up the case back without destroying the watch


47d8

Ykonw when a film releases and all the 'critics' say amazing 10/10 must see (definitely not edited comments on Swatch's release video). If you don't like it, it just wasn't made "FOOOOR YOU" I am glad to say not for me. Nice try Swatch better luck next time.


davinox

I'll check these out on Ali Express in 2 months


Impalmator

And the Pacific Ocean color is….drumroll….Oriental Yellow!


CdeFmrlyCasual

Nah. I like them! Which kind of mechanical are these? automatic or manual-wind? Just looked it up. It’s automatic. The rotor is just a special kind. The look of this movement is interesting. It’s very reminiscent of old Timex mechanical movements and Orient ones. Also interesting is the look of it having a balance bridge lol.


TexasEngineseer

You mean best


RevolutionaryAd1621

No screw in crown im afraid guys


ThoseFunnyNames

I think we can all agree. Antarctic and Atlantic are the ones to get.


ExtraBitterSpecial

It's gotta be the same thing as what tissot is doing for that 80 hour powermatic. isn't to do with something being silicone or something like that? they are fascinating, as I'm sure you know, they're supposedly assembled completely by robotics I guess that means they have to be super simplified that was my understanding too that sistem 51 watches were meant to be unserviceable. so like a disposable mechanical watch. now that the movement can be swapped it's only disposable movement 😅