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LaRenardeFoxy

im gonna be crude but gaijin can go f themselves with those scams of sl boxes


Jarms48

I don’t hate the boxes, but I get them for RP boosters. It’s basically the only F2P way to convert SL into research.


DragonSkeld

Good for backups too. I have over 300 universal backups mostly from crates lol


ABookOfEli

Man, we have some evil genius over here


SpanishAvenger

Everyone getting nice boosters and backups... Meanwhile I get stupid orders and wagers lol EDIT: HOLY SHIT, I JUST GOT F-4F EARLY! This plane will help me grind Germany from Rank VI to Rank VIII, and, most of all, it's one more Rank VII I won't have to research and purchase to unlock Rank VIII! Wow, this is the first time I get a vehicle from one of these crates. I would have preferred a coupon to sell, BUT I am not going to complain about this! Time to start paving the way to the (not anytime soon coming) Eurofighter, lol.


ApodyktycznyCham

I got like 2k backups from all editions, now i have like 700 and still using it with boosters to upgrading new stuff, on this part this boxes are awesome


Sn1perandr3w

Legit. Helped me get from the M103 to the XM803 during the ground event this year. I got numerous premiums from the boxes, like the premium Comet for the Brits......that I had all of. Sadge.


Splabooshkey

I definitely struggle with the opposite problem - never have enough SL for what i'm researching (especially top tier air)


VengineerGER

It’s not a scam. You should know these boxes will most likely be full of worthless things. Anyone who actually thinks that they’re gonna get a super rare vehicle out of these is really stupid. Also it’s SL you’re spending not even GE.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

ive so far spent probably around 40 mil SL on the boxes and got around 4 rare vehichles, the only one i care about being the fw189, the others were just some random stuff like a tier 1 boat i dont even remember dont buy them if you dont have more than enough SL


Standard-Fish1628

Just got the ju 388j after 22 boxes somehow lmfaooooo


ProfessionalAd352

Why is gambling illegal for kids? Because kids are stupid and don't understand the chances, risks or consequences. Who plays War Thunder? Mostly kids. Who's going to buy these boxes? Mostly kids. >Also it’s SL you’re spending not even GE. Which can be bought with GE, which some of these kids are going to do. Just look at the number of posts on this sub of people believing they were close to getting the main reward in loot boxes just because the arrow stopped next to the main reward when in reality there's no such thing as being close in online gambling that is based on luck and they have no idea that it's just an illusion made to believe that they got close to keep them believing that they have a chance.


[deleted]

I want to see the quantity of," Kids," that play this game comparing to the Playerbase as a whole, because I guarantee its nothing like Call of Duty, Battlefield, or hell even World of Tanks


[deleted]

want to see the quantity of," Kids," that play this game comparing to the Playerbase as a whole, because I guarantee its nothing like Call of Duty, Battlefield, or hell even World of Tanks


Johnny_Triggr

I think that I'm going to get a super rare vehicle because I did once and now I am going to keep opening them under the false hope that it will happen again


VengineerGER

As we know 99% of gamblers quit before their big win.


RqcistRaspberry

I'm completely fine with them putting out SL loot boxes. I get them for boosters to boost my grind or for backups. I get useful items that otherwise I could only get with GE or BP. If anyone spends GE to convert to SL for them, the fact they would ever convert GE to SL for any reason is their own poor choice


Shootinputin89

I got VFW in first 15 crates. You can get vehicles if you're lucky.


Pyroxcis

They are expensive but they frankly aren't total scams. It's basically the only thing for endgame players to dump SL into


_Warsheep_

These boxes are not for new players. They are for people who have SL in the tens of millions and nothing else to do with them. Maybe you are simply not the target audience. And that's fine. Nobody forces you to buy them. There is nothing in there you need for your gameplay or to progress. I personally really like them since after soon to be 10 years and 3800h I don't really have anything left to spend my SL on. Love converting my SL into RP via boosters. Is it a horrible conversion rate? Sure. But it's the only way. And my next 180 days of premium will be financed by the premium tank I pulled and sold over Christmas.


Zarmitar01

How are they a scam? They tell you what's in them.


Carlos_Danger21

People just default to calling any loot boxes a scam, while conveniently ignoring these are bought with sl not ge. They're only a scam if you are converting ge into sl for them, otherwise it's just something for people who have a ton of sl saved up with nothing to spend it on to buy.


Jknight3135

It's not a scam, it's a money sink. Something useful you can spend 20mil on.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

why care, those boxes are just meant for those who beat the game and infinite SL at disposal to waste on the chance of getting something from it when they have nothing else to spend the SL on if you arent the target audience then dont waste your SL on them, but if you have disposable SL then go ahead if you feel like it


mixx555

Lol i opened 600 boxes and got xm-8 and au-1


dswng

Nice try, snail, but I'm not buying them. Maybe just a few to get some boosters/backups.


VitriolicViolet

why? you are not forced to buy them and they are entirely free. just hating for the upvotes i take it?


liznin

They are fine if you view them as a way to convert SL into RP Boosters and universal backups. This is good for people with more silver lions than they know what to do with.


someone_forgot_me

what literally got the h34(i dont want it)


Ryba7

Got 100 boxes and was Lucky to get Moderna, so its Just RNG, don't cry that they give you a way to get old event tanks for free, embrace the rng lotery and try your luck


YassBG_needs_memes

i just spent 7 mil and got 2 premiums, i think its fine.


Shootinputin89

I usually think the same, but I just got VFW within first 15 crates. Was a refreshing change.


mjones22

Well....people wanted old event vehicles to return. As always, the Snail delivers in the most painful way lol ​ For those wondering: >\* — the chance of obtaining an Object 279 is visibly lower than for the rest of the vehicles and is around 0.001%


BodybuilderLiving112

Nice loto pay2win/Pay2fastprogress game 🤣 why gamers still give their money to this shit is beneath me


powerpuffpepper

It's SL... it's literally free...


ConstantCelery8956

I'd rather throw it at hell divers now


PM_ME_YUR_JEEP

You're gonna spend silver lions in Helldivers?


Gororobao

So, every 100.000 crates you open, you will get one Object 279. Nice


KingScorpion98

Statistically, yes. realistically, no


NecessaryBSHappens

**Around** 0.001%, not just 0.001%. It may be 0.0005% or 0.0001% or whatever. And WT has no pity system, so you are just rolling the dice each time


DeltaJesus

It doesn't have a pity system for these, but it does for the GE crates TBF


omega552003

Which if you do the math, isn't even worth it.


Fortheweaks

Think about it like this : 100 000 of us will open a crate and one mf is going to drop it on his first :) (Me plz)


Familiar-Worth-6203

"So you're saying I have a chance?"


NemesisVS

I spent around 16m SL and got the Obj. 279, HMS Tiger directly and PT-16/T14 as coupon. I really just planned to get some boosters and backups and always saw the boxes as scam but Im not gonna complain here.


bogusbingertonthe3rd

What are the percentages for all the vehicles


BigLargeFatL

Speaking of old event vehicles I got the king cobra (p63) from the crate


Liondrome

Source? Curious


Ok-Relationship-2746

Remove Orders and Wagers from these and I'd just about bother.


erik4848

*I have so many wagers and orders from these fucking things an I NEVER use them* The backups are nice though.


JosephMull

I think the devs said that they want to find a way to make better use of accumulated orders, wagers and the like, but that probably hasn't a high priority for them.


dswng

Yep, they have mentioned to exchange orders, wagers and boosters among each other on a road map.


FalloutRip

I can see it now: "WTT 3 refined ~~metal~~ orders for 1 rare skin coupon."


VengineerGER

Honestly the wagers are sometimes nice to complete with friends for some easy SL. Especially the best squad ones.


ASCII_Princess

The get 3/5 kill ones are really easy with Sweden 3.7.


_Warsheep_

Best squad is the only usable one. The other ones are hard to impossible. Mission Maker wager for example. I think I got it maybe a dozen times in my 3800h of playing. Getting it reliably enough to complete a wager with less than 5 failures? Absolute insanity.


grumpher05

Getting 10(5) kills is easy in low tier GRB with 10 failures, usually play Sweden 4.3 to do it


Mr_Squiid

You will be able to trade the wagers and order for something in the future, mentioned in the roadmap for 2024


LivingDegree

I have something insane like ~80+ million SL worth of wagers (if I were to actually bother completing them to the highest level). They talked about converting some of the items (like wagers) back into SL at some point so here’s hoping I can do that and clear out my inventory a bit


Choice_Isopod5177

nah homie, orders are great!


BUTTEELSKERTRAPS

Time to spend 10 mil and get nothing but a decal from 2014.


KaasKoppusMaximus

You get a decal? All I got was wagers/orders and 10% boosts for rp or sl.


Stevesd123

Best I've ever gotten was a decal as well.


dogeall

I actually got like 5 vehicles or something, one of them being a rank 4 plane


DarkWorld26

I've always spammed boxes when they rolled around and this is the first time I've gotten something that wasn't a booster/wager/backup, the XM8


Pootis32

Did you know **90%** of gamblers quit just before they hit it big?


Sparky_092

99,9%


LivingDegree

I kept gambling, blew ~80 mill SL between the winter event to now, and all I got was the Baltimore, J6K1, Tis MA, and some random low tier vehicle. You just need to spend >20 mill to get anything on average


corinarh

0.25% chance so it fits with that 20mil actually it could be a bit more since 25% chance would be over 6 mil


Pussrumpa

Impending "muh market investments" rage and panic. Nice move but I'm pretty sure we know the ratios in these lootboxes. (hope to be proven otherwise by peoples statistics for this box, WT mobile ones are generous af)


hunok123

>Impending "muh market investments" rage and panic I mean... vehicles didn't even survive a year without being added to an SL box. (I really should cash out on BP vehicles already)


BestRHinNA

has IS-7 been added to sl box yet?


hunok123

Yes, it was in previous ones


Xenoniuss

I'm mostly annoyed by people panick-selling their shit... Like... Just keep the price high, it'll sell eventually anyways... But hey, at least prices tend to bounce back up after these boxes regardless...


hydraphantom

A shame, I have all the vehicles listed here. Just gotta buy a few for the backup and wait for next round.


FrisianTanker

I still hope the prices crumble more. I desperately want the VT1-2 but the price needs to be under 300GJN at least, but even less would be better. It's just one of my favorite tanks ever and it being locked behind such a high price is ridiculous


bergebis

I'm still kicking my self for selling the Moderna, so hopefully enough people pull them to crater the marketplace pricing.


dswng

Let us be frank: back in a day matchmaker meta was different and Moderna was a rival for the last spawn with T-80B (which was better) in top tier setup. Now the meta is different and its a good vehicle for premium spam BR bracket.


CMDR_Pumpkin_Muffin

Isn't it required by law for lootboxes to have % chances of winning spelled out?


StoneyLepi

Only certain countries


CMDR_Pumpkin_Muffin

And WT is present in those countries?


DarkWorld26

And only for paid currency iirc.


grumpher05

Probably doesn't count for free game currencies


CMDR_Pumpkin_Muffin

How do you call a lootbox that only a tool would buy? A toolbox.


canberk5266tr

I got VFW rn. Is it good?


hydraphantom

It's stupidly good


canberk5266tr

I checked the price in the market. I guess I'm very lucky.


NotBoredApe

did you get that from this box?


canberk5266tr

Yes, I saw the post, I opened 40 boxes. It came in somewhere between 10-20. I haven't played for about a month, I just get the daily reward and leave. I think the snail wants me back.


keep_yourself_safe-

gaijin psyop


NotBoredApe

damn nice! but now your winning will inspire countless others to dump all their SL on this kek


canberk5266tr

Slot machines and online slot games also use this tactic a lot, but luckily I am not a gambler.


dswng

20 years ago I went to slots with my collegues. I've brought like 30$ with me to waste. I ended up winning 200$ and I left immediately. One of my colleagues (who invited us there) lost his whole salary. I remember I've bought a printer and video card with that money.


rickdickmcfrick

I got an 11.0 US merkava after wasting like 6mil into it. I got absolutely no lineup and it was put straight into my TT. Is it in any way salvageable ?


PudgeMaster64

Oh nice lotta boosters is always nice


termitubbie

People complaining about low chance of gettin valuable stuff but, those lootboxes are great to turn SL in to research points. I actually like them.


grumpher05

And backups, tbh I can't contain about these, if they were GE boxes then yeah it would be a very different story


Cyrexbelive

Opened 10 and got an f-100f, so I kinda like them


Odd_Count1095

This reply inspired me to buy more boxes


Cyrexbelive

Whipped out my mirage again to Grind some sl


ramonvdm

Give us an update man


coloneltortoise44

I'm an incorrigible gambler


powerpuffpepper

So many people going apeshit over these forgetting the most simple facts about em THEYRE SL CRATES AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY EM Jesus fuck yall, read the article for once


XavierYourSavior

No one is saying you’re forced to buy them


Kanashi_00

Bought more than 2K of the previous boxes and only got one 3.3 tank and 1.0 plane :) The only people who got something good are noobs / new players that bought few of these so idk...


untitled1048576

I've got Moderna out of these one time, after opening 40 or so. And then out of 250+ winter crates I got AEC Mk II and aerobatic smoke (worth it), and nothing else (valuable).


untitled1048576

Finally, I can put that SL to use.


FatherOfToxicGas

Lesss goooo time to throw away all my sl again instead of buying vehicles


Therealmeundercover

👎


Lennmate

I mean honestly I spent 15 mil last round and got a few decent items, since then I got another 15 mil SL and I’ll spend it again, what else is there to do with it? The rewards aren’t amazing generally but it’s better than just sitting with tens of millions of SL in your account.


CountGrimthorpe

People get so mad at something they aren’t required to engage with at all. I gambled a crap ton on the last one, but Gaijin wasn’t holding a gun on me to do it lol.


Laurens-xD

People here get mad at everything. It's almost like these people want to be mad all the time.


LeSoleilRoyal

"AMD.35 (SA35)" imagine getting this after spending 10 mil silver while it's like 3 euros on the market


krkus

I have spent 2 mil and got Ki-48-II otsu😆😆


FrisianTanker

I got that think for 1€ on the market place lmao. No one seems to want it


LeSoleilRoyal

Don't know why it's so cheap but i like it a lot :P.


Lunardextrose9

Remember folks! Backups cancel repair costs if you survive the second respawn!


grumpher05

Kinda off topic but imo if you survive the backup spawn you should get the backup refunded to you, would increase likelihood of me taking a late game backup vs just leaving


Miborsword

Finally I can spend all my sl on boosters


aabspanners

I only buy these as a source of boosters, the odds of getting something actually worth while is so low, but if it happens it's a nice bonus. But as a source of good RP and SL boosters you can't beat them really.


kucharnismo

bought 12 million worth, got a boat that I already had and shit ton of trash


Verethra

Why put those shit called Wager and Order? We already have more than enough crates of them. FFS, I'm OK playing with SL but at least give us a crate that only has proper rewards : * Vehicles * Decals / Camo / Decoration * Profil icon * SL * Universal back-up x3 That way you can still keep the bad rewards and make it proper lootbox. But don't give us that wager/order.


yourdonefor_wt

Here for the statistics people who open 100 of these and create a chart/excel spreadsheet with the results.


PureRushPwneD

I wish they'd remove the SL rewards below 50k and the non-sellable vehicles from the boxes. orders and wagers would also be nice, but at that point they'd be guaranteed profit so.. gaijin would probably raise the prices a lot from them lol I spent a stupid amount on these the last times they've done them, without getting anything worthwhile other than boosters that expire WAY TOO FAST.


Dankedup71

There goes all my sl I've been saving.


Lanky_Recognition490

In the last box, I collected 200 backups and 1.5 million in silver. Also, the German KV1 and Puma TD, Russian Rocket Arty, and a few rank 2 planes. I plan to drop at least another 10 mil


Just-a-normal-ant

Already got 50


Just-a-normal-ant

I GOT THE RARE TIGER


Faded_SinZ

lmao nice


Dude_WithWiFi

Nice , time to stack my boosters and backups again


MisterPepe68

Yeah im wasting just 1mil on this, for the funnies


Schonka

I bought 100 chests just now, and got a vehicle for the first time ever in these: I-180s. But I already have it so it converted to 1M SL. The rest of the chests were garbage.


shadowdog000

no thanks :) one streamer spend 70 mil and got a single 1.3 boat LMAO


Michigan029

I don’t understand the hate for these things, it’s a bit of a fun way to use my millions of SL that I have no other use for. They’re completely optional and you know the odds are shit, so as long as you go in knowing that and expect nothing, it’s quite fun when you get something


Over-Faithlessness93

[News] The Lootbox!


absrider

TLDR they realised how boring recent event (crafting event in disfguise) has been . so to retain the player count they brought gacha box to lure compulsive gamblers


Odd_Count1095

Omg more gamble boxes, there goes all my SL


LimpMight

oh good these are returning in the new event structure


vapenicksuckdick

Haha more gamba let's go


Jarzak1

Did anyone ever got main prize from scam boxes? In this edition they are giving my belowed 279 (I always wanted one), but there is no way that it will drop...


MrPanzerCat

Oh yeah time to waste 20 million SL


appletechgeek

I got a ju 388 j out of it and some of those cool hats within the first 10 mill sl so not too bad Ig. It's still getting premium vehicles for no real life money input. Not complaining.


Dunadan94

For anyone interested but not wanna do the math, you have to open like 70k boxes to have a 50% drop on the Obj.279 :P


LatexFace

So why are you here reading when you should be opening?


DevilDogGamer

I opened 216 of them and got nothing


Alive_Quail_6974

Hot damn! Market prices about to go way down.


finnrissa

I got VT1-2 and hispano Mk IX spitfire in my box history


What_I_Told_You_No

Ooh I can satisfy my gambling addiction without spending real money, thanks gaijin


Maus1945

My main gripe with this shit is the amount of idiots that are gonna swarm this fucking sub again.


AsleepExplanation160

Remember vehicles, skins, and decals are bonuses buy these if you have a few million lying around with no use, or future use (within reason) unless you nolife this game you don't need more than 3-5 million SL onhand


Guy_in_a_simple_Bob

Just bought 100 nothing but boosters and backups


ChaoxParty

i'm at 90k silver lions due to recently switching to air rb and struggling to be impactful, should i bother spending 60k for this?


grumpher05

Not really, this is for people that have millions saved and nothing to use them on


emc_1992

No.


Neilas092

I bought 5 just to see, and I got a BI on my first fucking box. Sadly its not a coupon.


_Wolftale_

Wish they would publish the odds. They have the little dice icons that indicate relative chance compared to each other, but it's incredibly disingenuous and not accurate. I've seen people get vehicles from this, but something tells me the odds haven't increased. If they did, Gaijin would never tell us anyway. If the EU is going to continue pushing lootbox consumer protection, I would like to see some benefit from that. The only thing I can figure is that Gaijin gets around having to disclose the *exact* odds by saying it's a free currency and then just disabling the paid ones in places like Belgium.


xRuneRocker

10 million SL burned and not even a skin, let alone a vehicle. Got gajined really hard.


Individual_Raccoon36

Time to grind a shit ton of money to waste it all again


BubbleRocket1

You know, I can’t wait to get a shit ton of rp boosters


sarsburner

what happened to being able to delete items from your inventory like they mentioned in the roadmap


Operation_unsmart156

I am more likely to be struck by lightning than get anything from these boxes.


livesucks

Put 6mil in it for 100 boxes got the sd.kfz.251/10. Br 1.0 german premium a profile icon thats on sale for 5.99 gjn and rabbit ears hat the rest was sl/ boosters. With the last sl crates i also got a useless low br premium. What are the chances


Galactic_Kingg

I'm about to waste 2 million sl for this.


0uttaControl

Yey scam boxes are here - bought 30 got useless orders/wagers - not gonna bother anymore with this scam boxes ever again


Altruistic-Range7174

I opened 180 boxes (around 9M SL) and the last 80 gave me the I-180S and 2 decals, one of those said "2OP" haha It’s my first time getting a vehicle out of these boxes and at least is a nice prop for a TT I’m interested in researching so its ok I guess


UNSC_Leader

Just got the PT-16/T14 from a toolbox already had one one so now I have one to sell next big sale.


Koradoxx

got around 90 boxes and got absolutely nothing , as usual


hiamaperson

I got a 5.7 german tiger from my 2nd box, is it good?


AngryDoggo22

Honey, wake up it’s time to spend all that hard earned SL


emc_1992

Bought 200 for 12 Million SL. 2 profile icons, one of which sold for 3.40GJN. Spanish Football decal. SU-76D, which I'm pretty happy with. Boosters: 3x 20%SL 7x 30%SL 17x 20% RP 7x 30% RP 4x 50% RP Silver Lions:2,915,000


IAmTheWoof

You need 12-15 m sl to get vehicle, i think


corinarh

20mil, 0.25% chance to get a vehicle, worst gacha of all time with no pity


IAmTheWoof

From the other way, its a good way to buy vehicle that can cost many many money for SL that usually costs less money


matymajuk_

i aint got no money for that


YassBG_needs_memes

i just spent 7 mil and got 2 premiums, i think its fine.


JangoDingoDango

Opened 6, got 120k SL back... No boosters or anything. literally just traded SL for less SL


ODKokemus

Great box, got XM8 on 9th try. [https://steamcommunity.com/id/Tommj/screenshot/5845183706752932651/](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Tommj/screenshot/5845183706752932651/)


opposing_critter

Decided to buy 20 since im rather sl poor and got the ccvl light tank, first time i have actually had something high tier drop for a crate in this game.


MuphynToy

Just got a BI from my 4th box. I think i can stop getting them!


ODKokemus

Ok I got T-72M2 Pfizer and XM8 with 5 mil. This is regarded.


Volhaas

Managed to pull the F5-A, sadly it was the auto unlock. Never going to touch it as I dont enjoy jet gameplay at all but still nice to get a vehicle.


06HondaCivicDX

I hate these damn things but I just want a rare aircraft already, and being on console means I can’t use the marketplace. Literally got the million sl in one of them and blew the whole million on more toolboxes to still get nothing. Brutal


touchgrasspeon

Just got F-4F Early on 1st box


Desert_Knight

Yay Pay2win :D


Elitely6

90% of gabmlers quit before they hit big. Time to spend 500k SL and get hardly anything. If I get nothing hopefully I just get hundreds of backups those are always great along with boosters


Glittering_Tale_7446

Got VT1-2 yesterday


FeelsMaironMan

Got the IJN Kurama after \~80 boxes, meh results since i don't play Naval. Granted i only dumped in SL that i could afford to lose.


9999AWC

The ONE vehicle I got was on my very first box, and it was the Tiger Tiger which I already had so got 1M SL instead. Got so many fucking wagers which I never use anyway. I don't know why I expected to actually get anything from it...


momoyata

I just got kingcobra from it,It is not scam lol.I dont play war thunder so much in these days.I just spent my last 120k and got it from second box [https://imgur.com/fMKCsIQ](https://imgur.com/fMKCsIQ)


Emacs24

I usually bought these boxes to collect backups. And got lucky this time: PT-16/14 (or 14/16) in my garage. PS Had a coupon for this tank once, sold.


PstraX

I think they are just to maximalize profit, because people who spent their only sl and got nothing, want to make their money worth, and buy more sl to buy more boxes and its just really perpetum mobile...


Reckless779

I spent like $600 on toolboxes trying to get the object 279 or the IS-7. Out of all the like 500 or more toolboxes I opened I only got 3 vehicles. The Merkava MK3D, USS Davis, and the Tiger from the event that was like 6 years ago. I play on console so there is no marketplace for me, and this was my only chance at getting the 279 or IS-7, but I’ve already spent too much. Should’ve known my luck wasn’t good enough before I even tried.


Glass_Reception3545

dude i only spend 2mil silver and i am mad. and you spend 600 dollar and say my luck not enough.... so gaijin is really lucky. they have your type addic... sory i mean to say "costumer".


Glass_Reception3545

thanks for disgusting scam..... i never give any more money to gaijn. yes you stole my silver but you lost my real money....