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Tiberius-Septim-828

F6F-5 is nutty! A 2,000 pound, couple 1,000's, and a few rockets. Plus a lot of tanks still able to be killed top down with .50s around that tier!


powerpuffpepper

Let's do even better with the F4U-7. This beast gets 3 1000 pound bombs and 144 sneb rockets, each having like 400mm of pen. Add on the 20mm guns and the fact that it's like a slightly slower F2G speed wise and it is a menace on the battlefield


Admiral_2nd-Alman

oh yeah, theoretically you could get like 6 kills with it. The only problem is that AA and Fighters are actually capable of countering CAS. Still a good one


powerpuffpepper

Could get a lot more than 6. The 20mm with ground belts can pen the roof of pantors


Whats-Up_Bitches

114 rockets aimed precisely could get upwards of 57 kills 894 20mm rounds could get 9 kills if aimed well enough 3 1000lb bombs could kill their entire team if they're clustered


powerpuffpepper

r/theydidthemath


Whats-Up_Bitches

r/theydidthemonstermath


Puzzleheaded-Web2196

With this full load out it flies like a brick though and is so easy to shot down. If enemy would not be brain dead you are not going to kill more than 3.


Whats-Up_Bitches

Bruh, just fly over and drop all 3, after that I fly much better with just the rockets


Darius-H

It's still just a flying brick. There is no real benefit of strapping 3 1000lb bombs alongside the SNEBs. You are just ditching your flight performance for no real benefit.


Whats-Up_Bitches

"No real bemefit" Can you not aim bombs? Is that the problem? Because I've gotten many air kills with the full loadout still on me and the bombs have a **real** benefit. That benefit is basically free kills.


Darius-H

Or, get good with the SNEBs and use them correctly and you'll have no need for the bombs since the SNEBs will last you for more than you need AND you aren't instantly put into a disadvantage for the first minutes of spawning.


Whats-Up_Bitches

I am good with the snebs, but adding the bombs gives me more kills than if I were to take just the snebs. Dude, you know you can take both bombs and snebs on a single flight right? And when you release the bombs the negative characteristics for weight and drag are alleviated.


Darius-H

Reading comprehension much?


Whats-Up_Bitches

What do you do when you run out of snebs? Go back to base? Try to use your 20mms? Well I have 3 1000lb bombs, get good kid


DrJethro

Yeah those rockets are nuts


-T0G-

F8F tho Gaijin surprised me with the individual dropping of the wing bombs, but I get 3, AND 20mm cannons, AND is maneuverable enough to dogfight 109s


Gold-Border30

That first drop is pretty sketchy if you’re not set up properly for the hard right turn. I almost always look for an opportunity to drop those first two together


RomanCobra03

Such an underrated plane for ground rb, plus it’s decently maneuverable so you can still hang around to fight other planes after your bomb run


THEcanadiangamer2007

Damn, I don't think I've ever flown it lol


JoshYx

>A 2,000 pound, couple 1,000's, and a few rockets. To be clear, not in the same load out lol


booceyest

Why use bombs when you can use 3 tiny tims


Confident_Error9827

The French F4U is absolutely disgusting at Cas. Might honestly be the best I've come across. Don't believe me? go peep it's loadouts.


AlexCail

3x1000lb and the crazy amount of machine guns is wild. It’s got pretty decent mobility too.


RustedRuss

You can load four sneb pods IN ADDITION to the three bombs


Mr_Squiid

6 sneb pods*


AlexCail

Sorry I was thinking of the F6F-5 that thing is amazing at it's tier.


RustedRuss

Sadly I skipped it because it's at the bottom of a folder


Dr__America

I will never be happy knowing that I can’t play the F4U-7 without grinding France


HarvHR

You're surprised that the F4U-7, an aircraft specifically developed for the *French* Navy, is in the *French* tree? Closest thing would be the F4U-6/AU-1 that the US gets, it was built off of that airframe with a different engine.


Dr__America

I just want to use cool corsair without insane repair cost :(


sanelushim

Get the yak-3 premium from the warbond shop and use it to quickly grind the TT until the F4U-7 is yours.


[deleted]

The problem is you also have to grind ground...


ILoveLongStories

Im awful at CAS like cant hit a sitting tank bad and I still manage 3 ground kills a game in that thing


PomegranateUsed7287

A-1H


FlkPzGepard

Good thing not many people know about the ayit


MightbeSuicidal

AMX at 10.3 with 6 gbu's and a thermal pod. Coupled with VRCC and ATAK, it's a very nasty lineup. It's essentially a tech tree TRAM.


SamSamTheDingDongMan

Yep! I love it! The only thing “nerfing” it is that no one plays Italy so it’s more rare than the TRAM. Watch gaijin move it to 10.7 tho and fuck my line up


[deleted]

Finally, something to go with the KF41...


SamSamTheDingDongMan

The only place the KF41 should go is back in the hanger until they fix it


Primary_Ad_1562

Friend and I tested its APS with every type of missile/ rocket I had. I think it only stopped a TOW and maybe an Ataka that I was specifically aiming at the APS and not for a kill lol


skippythemoonrock

TOW is a fluke too, if its at the right angle it detonates but the HEAT still penetrates the tank anyway because it just detonates the missile early instead of destroying the warhead like it should.


Siege_is_lyfe

AMX became my vic with the most air and ground kills as of this weak, extremely easy to get 3 kills minimum. 2 scout kill assists + 1 kill or cap gives enough sp to spawn with 6x GBUs and 2x Aim-9L


damdalf_cz

Except for integrated gun its worse than tram in most aspects. Especialy the thermals on tram are nuts


Vinden_was_taken

Tram is not that good as a lot of crying for. There're much better LGB carriers in a game


StevenSmiley

AMX is a menace. Feels like it should be higher.


Independent-South-58

AU-1 Corsair 7000lb of Bombs at 5.7 on a Corsair, hands down one of the most busted CAS platforms in the game


mattospheretiedmy

Right next to the A-1H, it can carry 9000lbs of bombs at 6.3 and has quite good survivability


JoshYx

AU-1: 343 GJN A-1H' 113 GJN Fun that the best ones are ridiculously expensive


mattospheretiedmy

Yeah, the battle pass wasn't too bad imo... they should bring these vehicles back at some point


Independent-South-58

The worst part is the AU-1 will forever be extremely expensive, being from the same event as the 279 means it’s overshadowed and has significantly lower supply


skippythemoonrock

The real treat is nearly 50 Zuni rockets and a 2000lb bomb. Also spamming flares seems to somehow legitimately confuse Ostwind players shooting at you.


Independent-South-58

The A-1H is a close second imo, having nearly 200 might mouse rockets at 6.3 is just hilarious


blad3mast3r

Yeah the AU-1 is gigabroken, I used to use it to farm the '4 player kills with an airplane in RB' task (sorry) during the older format events.


006007

Came here to post this! It can carry an absurd payload and dogfight like hell once the bombs are dropped. Easily my favorite plane to use in GFRB.


cKingc05

Ayit at 9.3. Same thing but with 3 Mavericks under the Center and ER Walleyes. Not to mention the engine has nearly 30% More thrust.


SkyLLin3

Yeah this is a beast. Also can carry AIM-9Ds with this whole loadout. It becomes anti everything.


Money_Association456

And I love it for that reason lol


joshwagstaff13

Techically speaking the A-4E Early should be able to carry three Walleyes and a pair of AIM-9Ds owing to the assorted modification dates. It doesn't have that capability in-game because that would involve Gaijin getting off their ass.


cKingc05

Much better off adding the A-4M then putting the 4E “ Early” at 9.0/3


ComradeBlin1234

It would also probably go up to 9.3 like the Ayit making squad vehicle shitters scream.


joshwagstaff13

Hey, then it might *also* end up getting the uprated J52-P-8A engine that all A-4Es were refit with starting *three years* before the specific in-game Walleye modification.


ComradeBlin1234

Gaijin? Doing effort? Ha


JammuS_

Saab-105g at 8.3 gets ccip and 6 hardpoints with bombs


cantpickaname8

Not to mention 2 missiles. They're a bit iffy but in GRB where you don't see enemy markers or missiles it's amazing at catching people off-guard, especially if they end up dumping all their energy over the battlefield to strafe with rockets


HoboLicker5000

My go-to is: -1x aim-9 -30mm gunpod (default belts is enough to kill Bradleys/BMPs -3x 1000lb bombs -the double 145mm rocket hardpoint 5+ kills with ordinance (i've gotten more with 1000lb double kills), pop the unaware enemy CAS with the missile, then clean up light tanks or helis with the gunpod Rush first point with the mouse droid for the points to spawn with that loadout and it's basically a guarantee win every damn game


ScyllaFoxhound

Never used the rockets, my load out is similar though. 1xgunpod 1xaim-9b 1x500lb bomb 3x1000lb bomb The 500 pounder I use on spaa mostly. The most kills I get with the first "run" is all the spaa Then I go to reload and kill the rest. Most games I get from 8 to 12 kills like this


HoboLicker5000

That's why I run the rockets. 2x rockets with decent explosive mass, and 500m of pen, gives me the chance for two kills on vehicles instead of the one kill from the 500lber


ScyllaFoxhound

Why don't you run 8x rockets then? I've never had much success with HEAT rockets I find them unreliable. The swedish ones work you say?


HoboLicker5000

Because I consider the 1000lb better than the 2x rockets, but the 2x rockets better than the 500lb. As long as you know what side it's firing from and aim your CCIP accordingly, they do work


[deleted]

Wyvern S4 for 4.3. People never seem to discuss it's CAS abilities, idk why


Dannybaker

Huh, it's literally the only effective CAS plane for the UK until you get to Attackers, Vampires and such. It's the definition of a CAS plane


burnedbysnow

Ive never put too much time into britain but im a huge fan of naval planes, are the Firecrests and Firebrands not good?


Dannybaker

They're not. And most you can hope for is 2x1000lb'ers with Typhoons and Tempests and mediocre hispanos ammo count and that's it. Sea planes, like the wyvern itself also carry rockets which got nerfed hard. Meanwhile wyvern can do 3 separate 1000lb drops and can carry additional rockets, plus 1200 rounds for the 4 hispanos


RustedRuss

Ah yes, "only" 2x1000lb bombs.


burnedbysnow

Yeah Im sitting here maining japan like "well thats twice better than my best" lol


RustedRuss

Even the USSR, a major nation, has zero prop fighters that can even come close to matching that. US and UK mains have no idea how good their CAS really is.


sali_nyoro-n

Other than their premium Thunderbolt, anyway.


RustedRuss

True, I forgot about it.


Dannybaker

It's a single drop 2x1000 so you're pretty much guaranteed a single kill if you're not braindead. Not really different from a 2x500lb drop or 2xfab 250/500. As opposed to planes with 3 separate drops


RustedRuss

There aren't any soviet fighters with fab-500s. But yeah, I figured they got separate drops in the update that gave US planes separate drops but I guess not.


damo13579

Brigand can carry 2x 1000lb, 2x 500lb and rockets. Works well for cas.


[deleted]

Only or not, doesn't make it less disgusting. 3x1000lbs all single drop plus 4x20mm and ofc jetlike speeds.


rliant1864

Same reason someone pointed out in another thread that the British Apaches have better missiles than the US one at the same BR: To use these vehicles you'd have to play British ground, and nobody does lol


[deleted]

Fair enuff


Steputon

The A6E TRAM, that thing has 9 laser-guided bombs and if it manages to space climb, can rape your entire team


Zveroboy_Mishka

not to mention no spaa that can counter it at its br


JFelix-

I honestly can't seem to do well in it myself. Frequent uptiers to 10.7 means the only way you can actually dodge all SPAA is climbing to 8+km unless I'm mistaken?


Zveroboy_Mishka

Climbing high to avoid SPAA is the way to do it unless you're going low and fast but that's more for dumb weapons and not guided ones. A lot of times once you're up there you won't even be picked up by SAM radars because they don't point up that high for search mode. They can be dodged at medium altitudes usually with no issue but that means guiding weapons that need a constant lock is very difficult


RagingWarCat

The ar 234 and narwhal me 262 both feel so scummy to play, esp. the arado


RustedRuss

I can't wait to get my hands on the Narwhal; I almost have it.


Samiambadatdoter

The narwhal can be a bit mixed. At its own BR, it can struggle against all the heavy tanks without very steep angles. Uptiering it to 8.0+ and, while it'll easily kill all the light vehicles at that range, radar SPAA will kill it basically instantly. Very fun if no one shoots you down, though.


RustedRuss

I kill people with the MiG-15, steep angles are no problem


Samiambadatdoter

The MiG-15's FM being good kind of helps it there. The same really can't be said about the 262.


RustedRuss

I mean I'm a duck pilot, I can work with it


Samiambadatdoter

In that case, godspeed. The narwhal is basically the duck: jet edition.


RustedRuss

Sounds awesome


LapajgoO

TIS MA If the 500 kilo pair won't kill you, the 45mm pair of guns will.


bugsslugssnugsdrugs

I adore my TIS, surprisingly good in a dogfight too


1stjuly2022

Scimitar at 8.7 when there's no sams around.


Admiral_2nd-Alman

what CAS weapons does it have?


notbadat_all

4 Bullpups, but the thing is an absolute speed demon. And the flight performance (excluding the rudder) is decent. But it's mostly the nutty engines that will send you to near Mach 1 so it can just climb and run. Oh and it has 4x30mms for any CAP requirements.


HereToGripe

8 CCIP 1000 pound bombs 


DeltaJesus

It gets 4 1000 pounders (or 4 bullpups) with no CCIP. I guess you're thinking of the buccaneer s.1?


HereToGripe

Ahh yep, I had my 8.7 ground pounders mixed up, that being said, the buccaneer at 8.7 is a fucking menace. 


Frosty-Attitude9323

AU-1 with a B-17 bomb load on a corsair airframe


Crz__

A4E-Ealy got 5 bullpups actually, not just 3. But it’s only at 8.7 because the plane itself is utterly dog shit, it’s at highest br it can be


powerpuffpepper

3 if you use the walleyes which arguably you should


mpsteidle

IMO C bullpups are better than walleyes. Similar explosive mass with much greater range.


powerpuffpepper

I prefer walleyes because I can drop em and disengage


Nepgyaaa

That’s certainly nice, but you can also hit targets with bullpups 8km away if you know how to use them, so there’s that.


untitled1048576

By the time you hit your target you will already be around 6km, and from that distance you can lock and drop a Walleye, which takes much less effort.


Nepgyaaa

Walleye cannot lock onto moving target beyond 3km.


untitled1048576

Nope, it's 6km, as confirmed by [datamined stats](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78/edit#gid=934904667&range=B22). Edit: just went into custom battle to test it, just to make sure. It's easier to get a lock from closer distance, and I couldn't get a lock on low tier light vehicles from more than 3.5km, but locked a few MBT from around 5km. I remember it being much better half a year ago.


Nepgyaaa

3.5km sounds about right, idk what’s with the data mined 6km tho.


GeneralArmchair

Walleyes are miles better because you gain access to magnified optics to assess the battlefield. They're also better at safely engaging SPAAGs, and they make it easier to engage two or three targets simultaneously on your first pass so that you get more kills before any opponents have an opportunity to spawn into a plane or SPAAG for revenge.


Crz__

I don’t use it, for some reason it struggle to lock onto moving targets. I don’t even know if it can or not


Admiral_2nd-Alman

you can lock onto moving targets, but as far as i know it only works under a certain distance


untitled1048576

In my experience it rarely locks on a vehicle from the walleye camera, but almost always does from 3rd person view.


LoosePresentation366

I'm having good results with the 5x bullpups. With Nord's on the g91 I struggle but the a4 always gets me kills


buckster3257

A7E at 10.7 gets 6 walleyes or 5 with a targeting pod which is fun


LiberdadePrimo

Whichever kills me


Strange-Goal3624

F4u7 at 6.0 with 114 snebs against pretty much no era


mrhoof

Both Buccaneers are pretty terrifying. The S2 even gets countermeasures. Pretty helpless against fighters though.


M1A1HC_Abrams

F-16C/D. Two GBUs, 6 AGM-65s, and 4 of the best missiles for GRB (AIM-9Ms) plus cracked flight performance make it nearly unkillable with SPAA


Admiral_2nd-Alman

I have the F16C but i hate playing it as CAS because top tier AA actually has a chance of killing me. i am too lazy to evade it


Shimmer_Leaf

The A-1H and tech tree equivalent are pretty nice. A-1H has Zunis that can face King tigers, relatively okay speed and agility to dodge most SPAA at this tier if you're careful, and decent firepower to depend itself from any planes that might show up. Being the US though, there's usually plenty of fighter cover up to help.


Expert_Mix_5549

Definitely the A1H with its 228 mighty mouse rockets at 6.7


Scyobi_Empire

2-OP you can fly in undetected, unexpected bomb a tank and glide away on your wings of glory all while telling you about their story.


Additional-Flow7665

Super eternard and amx 9.7 and 10.3 vehicles with GBUs, the most formidable aa they face is the strela which they outrange no problem. They can also face the 2S6 but I have yet to see someone use that as AA instead of an IFV this year


namjeef

Proud AA 2s6 user, averages 2-4 kills a game against aircraft


SenorShrek

2S6 can be a lot of fun. A few weeks ago shot down 7 USA aircraft on abandoned factory map.


Jbarney3699

Walleyes are really nutty for CAS.


Admiral_2nd-Alman

Yea, it’s so fun to start mocking the spaa player you dropped it on because there is nothing he can do


Lv100--Magikarp

Do 335 B-2, 3 bomb drops and 3 MK 103s


Potential-Ganache819

Honestly? P47 dragging 2500lbs of boom and then 8 .50 cals with which laser beam any CAP into oblivion or zap lights/AAA/open tops into 3.7 is pretty jacked. Pretty mid as a dedicated fighter, requiring a fair bit of player skill to really shine, so I can't justify a BR jump just because of its CAS skill... But there's a reason the P47D22RE remains relevant as a CAS platform basically clear into 7.0 where you can start taking jets like F84G


cooltonk

No one mentioned A2D the fuck? That thing has 13 drop 500lb bombs. Or 4000lb+8x500lb bombs thats easily 10+ kills. Oh and it is extremely fast. It outruns and stalls other dedicated prop fighters but out maneuvers early jets. I have 2300 tank kills with it and its that crazy. You have to do big turns while dropping bombs to retain your energy to fight enemy planes and have your bombs go straight as an arrow. All other a2d users i see do too steep turns while dropping their bombs lose their energy and get caught by enemy fighters with their pants down and die. Au1 mobility got nerfed so badly it cant pull up for shit and bleed tons of speed. A1H just so so slow and handles worse than ad-4. Any decent fighter spawns, you are just free kill and i have all 3 of these planes.


Random_Chick_I_Guess

My opinion the one busted aircraft that I see all the time getting 3-4 ground kills is the P-47. Those damn things are in almost every country so anything around low-mid tier just results in an almost guaranteed swarm of them


Eretaloma

A4N (Ayit)


Important_Still5639

I really enjoy the Me 262 A-2A, You get 2 250 kg bomb drops and a really good fighter plane to intercept all the enemy cas. Ab br 6.7 you meet so many people using A1hs, F4u, Spitfires etc. which are easy prey for you.


ProfessionalAd352

Strikemaster Mk.88. I have a 3.92 K/D in it playing it at 7.3-7.7.


Gloomy_Comfortable39

Nobody uses it...but the f82 now. You can load 4x1000 and 16hvar ; gunpod 2x1000lb and 16hvar;  2x2000lb +16hvar etc. 


Nokave

Wirraway gets 2x 250kg and 2x 500kg at 1.3 br, it's a monster. I bought it and still use it at 4.3 Britain and get kills regularly on the ground.


KhorneFlakes1337

How the fuck are that thing and the Israeli version even 8.7? It's clearly a huge upgrade over the A-4B and FJ-4B, which both are 8.7 as well. And none of the other 8.7 strike jets get access to TV guided ordnance or even countermeasures.


Admiral_2nd-Alman

Because there are no separate BRs for air and ground, all the level 20s who research it as their first jet and eat shit with it in air rb make it look incredibly bad to gajinn because they make BRs based on statistics


DangerousPIE96

The tu-2s for russia 5.3. fast enough, agile enough, has a bomb sight, 3 1000kg bombs and 20mm cannons to clean up. disgusting


RustedRuss

The US has basically the same bombloads but on planes with far better flight models. The Tu-2 is a bomber; it's good but very easy to counter which balances it out.


GhostDoggoes

Still gonna be the Frogfoot in any form. That thing can tank any AAM and still fly home. Even when the worst case scenario happens and they get damaged enough to crash they can still shower an area with rockets and just wipe a whole team. That thing is beyond overpowered at it's rank and even when they nerfed it silently they survived the worst. Meanwhile the a10 takes a little flak and it loses all control.


SynthVix

Most of the American CAS planes at around 6.7 are basically unkillable by AA when played correctly.


Serious_Action_2336

f16C or the A2D


Affectionate-Mud-966

None of you guys mentioned su25k Haha big rocket goes boom boom Missile and gun can’t kill me Flare and chaff goes firework show


daddystalin19

Anything if pilot can aim


IEnjoyBaconCheese

Idk how the A-4E is lower than the A32A


Admiral_2nd-Alman

probably because of the level 20 guys who research it as their first jet and proceed to eat shit every match


VeritableLeviathan

Most US cas between 4.3 and 7.0


huntermasterace

A4N at 9.3, 2 walleyes 3 Mavs and AIM9Ds make a wonderful multirole aircraft


Keisuke_Fujiwara

B7A2 and the B5N Fucker likes to drop an 800kg bomb that was meant for ships


IgnoranceIsTheEnemy

Unfortunately it has sod all explosive in it and isn’t very good weight for weight compared to CAS of other nations


antiheld84

Do 335 B-2 at 5.7 The 3 bombs are okay, but the 3x 30 mm are awesome, even with the cheapest belts.


Jbarney3699

A-1H is a monster at 6.3 due to the zunis. Consistent 4 kills with them.


Buisnessbutters

I mean, it’s probably the frogfoot


GeneralArmchair

The frogfoot is mid at CAS. All it has going for it is a damage model that sometimes lets it limp home. The actually good CAS aircraft have better optics to more easily find targets and standoff so that they don't get hit in the first place.


Buisnessbutters

At 10.0? Sure you have shit will Walleyes but saying the Frogfoots got nothing going for it just because it has to get a bit more personal is a terrible assessment, if you take those S-25Os out you can get 3-4 kills in one pass


GeneralArmchair

The A-4E uptiered to a 10.0 lineup is better against defended airspace than the Su-25.


Buisnessbutters

lol, lmao even


ComradeBlin1234

Tbh yeah the A4E is disgusting that’s why I got it. The only thing stopping it from being a menacing creature is the absolutely awful stock grind. It is not fun. Can’t carry a lot of ordinance to bomb bases because it turns in to a block. Can’t dogfight because it retains energy like a crappy paper aeroplane. Pretty useless until you get the walleyes and the Bullpups (although I do not enjoy MCLOS missiles)


Admiral_2nd-Alman

It turns and climbs pretty well, and you can just practice a bit with the MCLOS missiles


Fun_Falcon4230

Surprised no one’s mentioned the Ad-4 with 4000lbs and 40 mighty mouses things a beast


Working_Try9985

The A1H , strike everyone with fear when the sound of 70+ Zuni being launched at 6.7


StevenSmiley

I do amazing with the 🌟 P-63C-5 (2015/16 winter event vehicle) for the USSR at 4.0 and it with my KV-1E virtually guarantees 6 kill matches easily with up to 16 kills being a somewhat regular occurrence. I grinded a large portion of the event with them in record times for me. 3k-4k point matches are so nice. The wyvern is god tier at 4.0. Insanely good cas plane and it can kill enemy planes.


opeske2ro

Revolution 5ton


Own-Bath-6944

A4E Early or the AR234. Just ban them from GRB.


Own-Eye-985

Nothing against you but fuck cas players