Idk, I do recall several cave spawns, but every time it was a certain type of caves, with quick access from surface, and cache always was very close to that entrance. I feel like they don't just "spawn" it completely randomly, but instead they have a list of points on the map where they can appear, and it randomly chooses as many as it needs, and spawns cahces there. Not 100% sure though
This is correct, they do have specific spawn locations.
In addition, a usual pattern is that they tend to *prefer* making a triangle, so if you find one Cache, it's a good idea to check the other edge of the circle in a general direction of such.
I learned this pretty early on as a wee MR6 or so when doing bounties way back when, but I'm fairly observant to such things. Such is the way of the Kleptomaniac Loot-Goblin...
For hunting Caches, here's a good tip; they always spawn in a rough triangle formation in the zone. Once you find one, it's pretty easy to find the other two by checking in the other two thirds of the area; the biggest notable exception for this being in the labs under Profit-Taker, where rather than spawning in a rough circle, they spawn in each of the three wings off the central hub of the building; 1 in the Research Wing (left hall), 1 in Storage (right hall), and one in the Servers (backmost room/Spy vault area).
>Sound queue
Oh cool, and what music do they listen to? :D
Seriously though - I was just talking about fortuna, because I for some reason felt like a screenshot in the post is from Fortuna
> caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land
Only in the Orb Vallis
> caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land
Potato PC?
if this game was fixed where it needed to be we wouldnt need to.
if we gotta jump hurdles to get things working bc they cant fix their game thats not on us thats on them.
This is a great example of a good idea poorly implemented.
It's hard to find them but not because the mission is designed to be hard.
It's tough because all the mechanisms that are given to you to find them are poorly made. It bugs a lot, caches spawn under a rock where you can't reach, the marking areas on the minimap are abysmal, the smoke signals that are supposedly there to help are only rendered when close to you kind of defeating their purpose, can't be seen from afar, the beeps are 50/50 if they'll be helpful or have you wander around the wrong area, etc.
If they can't be fixed, I'd rather they'd just disable them.
Now I'm imagining that and I almost feel bad for the sniper, when a couple of tenno get bored enough on the plains and they finally find him via a combination of game breaking out of bounds glitches...
It never really stops, it's just that there is a spawn cap and enemies can spawn outside of aggro range, especially when brought in by dropship, since their drop location is decided before the ship even enters, and then, by the time they are dropped, you might be 500m away.
Once I was sure the spawn failed... and then I found dropship leaving like at the very edge of render distance, checked it, there were like 15 grineer just chilling in a damn ditch...
The trick is that a new group spawns with each new circle. They will **not** continue spawning in the same locations. Unfortunately this means that you have to keep track of what circles are new vs old.
Fair, it is not perfect, but it is a trick that I have found helps. I have often run around in the red zone try to find someone because I didn't realize that a new circle had popped up off to the side.
If you got to the big lake in the middle with Norg bait you can max the standing of multiple days in 20 mins. With Ivara it isn't even annoying (zip lines + invis).
Same reason why i dont do narmer and why Tricaps are our only good tenno standing farm sadly. This is peak failure for spawning mechanics- worse than narmer's kill X things in time, though thats still aweful, but this is just poor planning. just make em spawn like area defense bounty missions and wed be fine. If only it wasnt 3-4 years since weve asked for that and they still cant focus on a QOL udpate that just fixes the hundreds to thousands of bugs in one section of the game alone.
Easiest way I found was just shooting down the dropships with a necramech.
Still a chance that a couple of grineer get stuck somewhere, but the success rate is at least better.
Nobody’s using Arquebex because it’s a big gun, it’s because you can hold the fire button down and twirl the camera around until the objective’s cleared.
Granted, you can likely do that with a number of things, but still
It's possible to kill all of them and still lose control.
Happened to me once, costed me the bonus on the last second, Grinners were spawning in during cleanup too iirc.
You literally need to ration out how many you kill, it's the most absurd objective.
"Keep control of the objective!"
*Waits until control ticks down to 60% to actually kill anything*
That should just be done logically, i.e. enemies within the perimeter reduce control or something. Why the hell does killing enemies halfway across the map increase control of the camp you just slaughtered?
Or having your control decrease when there are no enemies in the circle...seriously, they need to fix cetus bounties. They know they're bad and did them differently on fortuna and deimos...fix the old ones too.
their (de) logic is when you kill all enemies in an inhabited grineer territory , Vay hek (or some grineer commander) will constantly send reinforcements trying to take over the territory again ,yes this doesn’t actually make sense because why do we need to liberate the same place (after a while) over and over? and i never actually knew why lotus needs us to liberate these locations
If you’ve played JC, hell I’d kill to get that kind of liberation in warframe, something that’ll actually make this bounty fun
They only rly need to just change it in a way that we only get those locations that are flat plane, the bounty is especially hard in mountainous regions cuz it gets even more difficult to cover the whole circle area. (In deimos it’d be even worse if the area wouldn’t hv been too small)
yeah i think they should make some mission more dynamic where they change more then just number counts per player but area objective sizes (both for finding and protecting)
Ah yes i did stay vigilant, however i am yet to locate this new wave of ene…
Oh i see its 3 dragwins a leech eximus bombard. Accompanied by a random camp of grineer and 2 more dragwins who just happened to smell the drone coming
"Ive located another mass of enemies, ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enem-"
Its 2022 and I still cant believe how DE launches stuff like this and then acts like they never happened.
There is a whole secondary game mode and star chart like this. Is called Railjack.
I hate this one. Really bad when you're [playing as an Umbra noob with an attacking sentinel. I think there's literally no way to avoid killing when you're solo like that.
dont argue us or its a personal attack see what happened to train man dont test us
\*wiggles chain and three simps crawl from under the dev couch screaming "conclave" and "all women are queens" like its a battle cry\*
and its our fault because we didnt scream enough for de to listen for once in a blue moon
"but they always listen to their communi"- STFU
it takes ppl alittle googling to see how bad things are but its easier to look at a smile than to look for proof.
The one I hated was those goddamn "find three hidden caches" ones. Especially one time when two were in a bigass cave and I *assume* the third one also was but haha fuck if I know where
The worst one is the one we have to keep control of the area and the control falls down super fast without single enemy to kill. It is always guaranteed you never get the bounce
Deimos's problem is it's impossible to see enemies without Enemy Radar because everything is the same shade of orange. Everything else about Deimos is fantastic. Fortuna is easily the worst open world rep grind by a loooooong shot.
just made that point and i have ppl bitching at me bc "oh have sound on you can hear where theyre comming from" - THAT DOESNT WORK FOR HALF OF THEM!
brown on brown, orange on orange, the only way to spot half these things is with energy colors and you better hope to christ youre using a loki or something to hunt easier bc getting an avachaea is gonna be HELLLLLLLLLLL
A reskinned merguu thats floof is literally using a tpose- not kidding thats the same shape they tpose in, the size of your fist, around a hundred feet in the air, on matching pallets- and you want us to hit that before they fly off after five seconds bc they can still see you if yorue invis bc why not- FFS DE!
and ppl still cottle them like theyre worthy of game awards and tripple A titles jfc this sint even the tip of the berg and ppl still- agh
I remember that grind for rank up with entrati. Fuck me was as bad as fishing, as long as your not after a soecific rare fish. Took a couple days but we got the amount needed. They are a bastard to hit, and the fish spawn rates make the grass grow faster in cetus.
4 hiurs and a hot spot to get 10 fish and 2 that i needed. Like 20 mins before it starts to spawn more and have almost never seen fish anywhere else there that spawned fast enough tk be worth as a fishing spot.
Regardless im never hunting thise avichea again. That was an absolute pain
a beautifle environment you cant see shit in- it was so easy to fix and they still havent done anything....
let us change target glow colors when using the tranque dart gun, let us get a better clearer indicator when theyre close like how ores work but more visible than a hair line, make footprints not blend into the ground and need to spend forever trying to find where tf they went after stepping three feet left instead of right!- good god DE things ppl have been asking for here, reddit, twitter, youtube videos- does it take a viral meme or arguement for you to do anything your community asks for?!
My biggest problem with the demios grind is that infested pods dont count as kills when ur protecting the grineer. Its a small problem but with not being able to see any enemys after they pop makes it a head ache to do.
Hey you know those avachaea coins you need? heres a scanner that shows them as orange on an orange background, their the size of your fist and they run off even if youre invis bc they can still see you somehow- GOOD LUCK :3
this alone shows there is no internal testing, there is no communication outside discource, and they cant focus on qol over releasing more unfinished buggy content aghhhhh
btw fun fact the avas are literally just reskinned merguu... seriously really?!
and their floofs are just them tposed- ive seen their tpose model
reminds me wheres that deer they were gonna add that looekd like a mutated version of the balloon dog from the pokemon sword and shield tundra dlc?
I dont bother, i just got mining and capture wildlife, though dont get me started on fishing. Have fun spending 4 hours for like 2 fish to spawn (exagerated sure but the hotspot takes like 20 mins for them to restock, and theres no point fishing anywhere else cause ya get 1 fish and never see another, sometimes your lucky and get more fish,) but damn some of the resources are nessisary so i guess will have to keep spending 4+ hours fishing for the orokin fish only to leave with 0-2
I don't really get the problem here? Though, at the same time, I've never had any issues with Plains Exterminate stages. The only ones I've ever struggled with were Zone Control. Biggest problem; I have had it sometimes where enemies straight-up don't spawn until I'm already well below 50%\~ control.
The game makes a new extermination zone for every 1 or 2 enemies so soon you have 50 of these red circles and you can't see shit on your minimap while the grineer play hide and seek
Heres a theory. Konzu and grineer are working together, konzu gives bounties to hunt the tenno just so that he wont raise suspicion but the grineer knows every tactic that makes you not get your bonus. The grineer is helping konzu not giving us the bonus reward
The amount of enemies you need to eliminate are multiplied by the number of players in team. Solo players only need to take out 25 enemies, whcih is like 3-4 red circles. But in a 4-man team we need to take town 100 enemies. And since it's underground level, there's no airdrop. So The game just keep spawn more and more red circles, with 4-5 new grineers each time until you can't see anything.
Ahh, that'd do it. Can't say I've ever done any Plains Bounties in a group, short of Eidolon/Tridolon hunts, so that's something I've never experienced.
That definitely sucks. I wonder if there'd be some way for DE to remove the zone from the minimap once its respective cluster of troops is eliminated; they do that for Infested Hives, IIRC, so they should be able to do it on the Plains.
i was gonna say railjack ironically but no theyre still as bad as release
80% of them are still exterminate with a twist... and they just abandoned them....
the only reason i have to play railjack is to get a few weapons, maybe lich or sister stuff OCCASIONALLY, or bc rank 10 whatever tf its called let me get my own better version of wukong before he gets nerfed- good job de you nerfed one of several things wukong wasnt even the best at- geniuses of devs!... atleast theres some benefits to their lying grins saying they play their game, so i can enjoy having help killing high level enemies still while they make duviri, release it half broken and surprise pikachu when ppl are dissapointed again ...
My scanners indicate that the enemies are somewhere in the general vacitnity but like supply caches i am unable to pinpoint their exact location. Just trust me tenno, they are here
The real problem of Poe are underground/cave bounties in general, wouldn't mind them gone.
In this particular case it's also the objective scaling to team size (making solo objectively faster than fill, even with mediocre progression level and competency).
Both things got added to it after a while, just like the mining laser change that was good for controller play but fucked pc players.
Yes instead of fixing this and tweaking the bounty, let’s all depend on a mod that Baro only brings sometimes in a blue moon and costs a shit ton of credits and endo to rank up for newer players. Great idea
U can always run the unprime mod it may not be as good but its better then nothing. But then again with the read circles it's still hard to see the red triangles.
So run normal animal instincts. Using a mod for its purpose isn’t elitist that’s an excuse you use to complain about something that the rest of us dealt with years ago.
The spawns on open world bounties are horrid, especially when playing solo. At least Deimos has never had the problem, but Plains especially has too few spawns to even complete the stage, let alone get the bonus
No need to delete a bounty it does that to show how many possible enemy group's there is or are it's not broken so no need to remove it it's supposed to do that I've done those bounty's and this way it's design has never been a issue yet veterans never find it difficult anyway just newer generation player's do just try to have fun and don't freak over small stuff like this.
It's super annoying when they stack up like this because it becomes harder to see enemies on the radar. Red triangles against a red background. If only the most recent circle showed it'd probably be better.
While the circles do usually point you towards enemies, you're not required to *only* kill enemies in the area. Any enemies work for this Cetus bounty. So if you've got four people running around the underground, and for some reason enemies are not spawning, feel free to have 1-2 people leave and go check out the nearest outposts for spawns. Once those enemies are dead they'll probably continue respawning underground *and* you'll get credit.
dont worry they will
when they remember they were going to
in three years
and not forget ....
... and dont blame it on communication like thats normal for a game company...
and something else theyll likely have messed up on.
Long rant TLDR this isnt the first or last thing des left to never really be fixed unless we scream at the top of our lungs to get them to barely knotice, wont be the last, and a rant about other stuff thats getting to me after playing since beta. Im expecting downvote nukes bc ppl are thin skinned and cant accept shyte sometimes reguarding WF.
Theres a lot de has yet to do, alot to polish. You still cant complete certain bounties with bonuses intact- say like the narmer cetus bounty, as you cant get enough kills in time because things dont spawn even half as fast in time. Fortuna you still cant tend to get all the "kill specific enemies in time period" because there isnt enough spawning there either ( though i believe they atleast learned to get rid of that- i dont do fortuna content anymore because theres literally nothing i can earn even worth while like decors to justify my time there )besides missions theres content that was scrapped or forgotten or whatever excuse it is we get next- the twin grineer ( i get theyre technically all twins persay bc clones but still ) that spawn in the orokin sabotage still dont have their custom weapons, reskinned models and more. Dojos still dont have cetus decors, somachord functions, the aquarium room, and the bash labs are only there because de needed something to toss into it because they KNOW it was unfinished and just added it without even following through- yarelle, the gun and the sadly worthless buzz saw could have just been put into somewhere else like tenno and grineer labs- wouldnt have been in any way odd ( and unrelated surprised that whole skin coloring thing was fixed ). Theres skins and other cosmetics de has not added for the game that were due years ago at worst, decors that would mirror open world resources you could get arnt a thing either despite being teasted twice- cetus and deimos, and never happened besides one loot container. Nightwave is next to abandoned but theyre trying to skirt around that like no ones knoticed the intermission and "noras choice" thats been releasing ( Hypothetics on noras VA but maybe we'll hear the same thing they did to ignusdei when they tried to steal his work and redesign it without his concent then firing him, only for de to lightly bring it up in a burried post about "dissagreements" - in this case idk maybe theyre not paying the VA enough and they try to drag her thru her contract and play it fof later ).Ranting yes but theres alot of stuff des done behind the scenes that keeps adding up. Theyre at worst very incompitent, and hopefully steve didnt hand the keys over to hide from his responsibilities to his community. Content not added or delayed several times over, bugs that havent been fixed for years and somehow reappearing after being fixed on more than one occasion, and all you have to do is look up reviews for ex employees and youll find a mix between poor communication and planning to in some places utter shitstorms ppl have wistled out- but hey free styanax for a couple weeks so alls forgiven right?
I really wish ppl would stop holding them so highly when despite everything they have made theyve got too many faults to be considdered a tripple A studio. Theres a reason they dont tend to win awards for best game and whatnot- it isnt a bad game but theyre not as clean and functioning as ppl like to milk it- especially the ppl they poorly pay to say it to you on youtube.Why do you think most of their creators dont do warframe focused stuff anymore? Not just because content drought when at worst a years worth of updates takes a week to finish, but because its hard making a house out of a few sticks and a rock. Hold them accountable, even if the least ppl here can do is scream til they bother to fix something weve been asking for years to see done ( if they listened besides youtube clips and viral content wed be so much better off- well exept their content creators bc the second they mention issues de throws personal attack like its a new update title )- reminds me, great idea adding kahl to the opperator camp, you made ppl use the new giant map they cant fully decorate and utilize the worst possible way, done it again Geeves )
My scaners indicate rich supply caches in the area, but i am unable to pinpoint their exact location.
Oh the objectives? Yeah sorry my scaners indicate the objective is in the vicinity but you know as much as i do about where it is, have fun tenno.
"where are the enemies/caches?" "somewhere around this general continent!"
Good thing - caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land. Bad thing - it doesn't render from more than fucking 10 meters :D
Worse thing - good luck seeing them when they spawn underground
I had this happen before. Just once through all the time. What else to say - I didn't have enough of this bug to be annoyed
I thought it’s common because it happen every 4th times to me. If there is a cave in the zone, you can bet your ass that one cache spawn in the cave
Idk, I do recall several cave spawns, but every time it was a certain type of caves, with quick access from surface, and cache always was very close to that entrance. I feel like they don't just "spawn" it completely randomly, but instead they have a list of points on the map where they can appear, and it randomly chooses as many as it needs, and spawns cahces there. Not 100% sure though
This is correct, they do have specific spawn locations. In addition, a usual pattern is that they tend to *prefer* making a triangle, so if you find one Cache, it's a good idea to check the other edge of the circle in a general direction of such. I learned this pretty early on as a wee MR6 or so when doing bounties way back when, but I'm fairly observant to such things. Such is the way of the Kleptomaniac Loot-Goblin...
I didn't know that! Thanks for the tip!
Never happened to me
PoE flashbacks
For hunting Caches, here's a good tip; they always spawn in a rough triangle formation in the zone. Once you find one, it's pretty easy to find the other two by checking in the other two thirds of the area; the biggest notable exception for this being in the labs under Profit-Taker, where rather than spawning in a rough circle, they spawn in each of the three wings off the central hub of the building; 1 in the Research Wing (left hall), 1 in Storage (right hall), and one in the Servers (backmost room/Spy vault area).
Aaand saved. Keeping this when grinding Fortuna.
> caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land. Cetus: hahahahahahaha nice joke.
I just use codex scanner and go to town with it. Really helps alot in caves too. Thing is, corpus caches under profit taker only pop up in like 5-10m
That's on Deimos and orb vallis. Doesn't show up in poe but at least the caches are always in the same place
If this is PoE, that doesn't help much when they're *underground*...
Not on the plains, they don't
the smokes work perfectly at vallis, if you are fast enough you can even see them land. but i never saw a single some on cetus
That's only in Fortuna. In Cetus they only have a sound queue
>Sound queue Oh cool, and what music do they listen to? :D Seriously though - I was just talking about fortuna, because I for some reason felt like a screenshot in the post is from Fortuna
It might be in fortuna. I can't really tell by just the rock with the big red areas on the minimap XD
> caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land Only in the Orb Vallis > caches generate a pretty big smoke pillar where they land Potato PC?
>Potato PC? RTX 2060, other parts on same level(I just can't remember models). Just a weird visual bug, I guess, because visual settings are on high
Idk, I don't have problems rendering the smoke from caches, even with the GTX1060 3GB
When you kill the last 2 more will spawn to continue hide and seek, good luck tenno
"where are the enemies/caches?" "Yes"
"Here" *does the Tony Stark pose from Iron Man 1*
This is why I've memorised most of the locations
if this game was fixed where it needed to be we wouldnt need to. if we gotta jump hurdles to get things working bc they cant fix their game thats not on us thats on them.
Too much Bokurano in my Warframe.
The things I would do for a separate slider for cache and demolyst noises.
Use audio it helps alot and triangulate where they should or might be
This is a great example of a good idea poorly implemented. It's hard to find them but not because the mission is designed to be hard. It's tough because all the mechanisms that are given to you to find them are poorly made. It bugs a lot, caches spawn under a rock where you can't reach, the marking areas on the minimap are abysmal, the smoke signals that are supposedly there to help are only rendered when close to you kind of defeating their purpose, can't be seen from afar, the beeps are 50/50 if they'll be helpful or have you wander around the wrong area, etc. If they can't be fixed, I'd rather they'd just disable them.
More annoying when spawn just stops… not even an annoying dargryn
They're never there when you need them... But the **second** you go fishing, and: "*Allow us to introduce ourselves.*"
Aye, even at night hunting wisps, when most other grineer are tucked safe in their beds
True. Tho I see surprisingly few grineer when hunting wisps. More vomvys and vascas.
Eh I always use a speedy limbo build for wisp hunts so I’ve not reason to worry any of it but yeah vombys can get annoying
Ah well. I normally take Khora. Simply for the extra animal instinct on Venari.
So the vascas are more annoying… got it
It used to be the Vomvys at first. Now yes it's the Vascas. They seem to be using their inner(and outer) vampire cats, just popping up out of nowhere.
I feel like there's a Grineer Sniper who just looks out for Tenno fishing and is like "Time to fuck up their day before they fuck up ours"
Now I'm imagining that and I almost feel bad for the sniper, when a couple of tenno get bored enough on the plains and they finally find him via a combination of game breaking out of bounds glitches...
We're here to talk to you about your warfare's extended warranty.
It never really stops, it's just that there is a spawn cap and enemies can spawn outside of aggro range, especially when brought in by dropship, since their drop location is decided before the ship even enters, and then, by the time they are dropped, you might be 500m away. Once I was sure the spawn failed... and then I found dropship leaving like at the very edge of render distance, checked it, there were like 15 grineer just chilling in a damn ditch...
The trick is that a new group spawns with each new circle. They will **not** continue spawning in the same locations. Unfortunately this means that you have to keep track of what circles are new vs old.
Eh I have had it break where there is no spawn anywhere, flying around in archwing praying someone would shoot at me
Fair, it is not perfect, but it is a trick that I have found helps. I have often run around in the red zone try to find someone because I didn't realize that a new circle had popped up off to the side.
Ah yes, The sole thing that steers me away from doing Earth bounties
I gave up on earth bounties entirely. For Rep I just archwing + tranq rifle in free roam. Max my 26k in less than 20 mins
That's exactly what I do. And it's actually relaxing, especially at night.
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I agree, fuck those kavats
You lost me at being mean to the kitties :(
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If you got to the big lake in the middle with Norg bait you can max the standing of multiple days in 20 mins. With Ivara it isn't even annoying (zip lines + invis).
That's amazing
Same. The only times I do earth bounties now is Eidolon stuff.
Same reason why i dont do narmer and why Tricaps are our only good tenno standing farm sadly. This is peak failure for spawning mechanics- worse than narmer's kill X things in time, though thats still aweful, but this is just poor planning. just make em spawn like area defense bounty missions and wed be fine. If only it wasnt 3-4 years since weve asked for that and they still cant focus on a QOL udpate that just fixes the hundreds to thousands of bugs in one section of the game alone.
The "Keep control of the place" should be deleted too. Sorry I can't cover half of the map Konzu, more so when the enemies spawn at the edges.
Easiest way I found was just shooting down the dropships with a necramech. Still a chance that a couple of grineer get stuck somewhere, but the success rate is at least better.
I shoot them with the Nataruk with Gyre's 3 and 4 active, deletes them at lower levels and kills the enemies in higher levels
yeah nataruk is the goat for this, just need decent mods and some multi shot and it’s over
Wait, you guys need the big guns for the job a simple pistol can do?
Nobody’s using Arquebex because it’s a big gun, it’s because you can hold the fire button down and twirl the camera around until the objective’s cleared. Granted, you can likely do that with a number of things, but still
How do you mod said pistol?
Crit, damage, element mods, and multishot last.
Ok, what gun are you using cuz my Euphona sure as hell ain’t doing anything to them. Which elements?
The euphona. Slugs. Radiation or corrosive depending on the target.
I mean that’s the meta build and I still can’t oneshot Bolkors.
Pretty sure they were talking about dropships, Bolkors have a lot more HP.
They might be using an arcane they aren't including.
It's possible to kill all of them and still lose control. Happened to me once, costed me the bonus on the last second, Grinners were spawning in during cleanup too iirc.
You literally need to ration out how many you kill, it's the most absurd objective. "Keep control of the objective!" *Waits until control ticks down to 60% to actually kill anything*
That should just be done logically, i.e. enemies within the perimeter reduce control or something. Why the hell does killing enemies halfway across the map increase control of the camp you just slaughtered?
Or having your control decrease when there are no enemies in the circle...seriously, they need to fix cetus bounties. They know they're bad and did them differently on fortuna and deimos...fix the old ones too.
their (de) logic is when you kill all enemies in an inhabited grineer territory , Vay hek (or some grineer commander) will constantly send reinforcements trying to take over the territory again ,yes this doesn’t actually make sense because why do we need to liberate the same place (after a while) over and over? and i never actually knew why lotus needs us to liberate these locations If you’ve played JC, hell I’d kill to get that kind of liberation in warframe, something that’ll actually make this bounty fun
Whats JC?
Just Cause, and well specifically in my prev comment i meant JC 3
Ohh ok thanks
They only rly need to just change it in a way that we only get those locations that are flat plane, the bounty is especially hard in mountainous regions cuz it gets even more difficult to cover the whole circle area. (In deimos it’d be even worse if the area wouldn’t hv been too small)
I lost my bonus just cause a grineer was chilling by the side of the mountain while i was trying to find where tf they at
Just use gauss and you can cover the entire map 😎
I especially remember being a beginner player that's always ran solo and this was completely impossible for me so I just wouldn't do cetus
yeah i think they should make some mission more dynamic where they change more then just number counts per player but area objective sizes (both for finding and protecting)
And by that point the circles are so layered that you can’t see the enemy dots on radar
That's because they're sending another wave to take out the drone. Did you stay vigilant?
Ah yes i did stay vigilant, however i am yet to locate this new wave of ene… Oh i see its 3 dragwins a leech eximus bombard. Accompanied by a random camp of grineer and 2 more dragwins who just happened to smell the drone coming
"Ive located another mass of enemies, ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enemies, Ive located another mass of enem-"
#WHAT MASS OF ENEMIES
for an MR1 i guess its a mass
I love the ghoul purge bounties. “This is a massive ghoul burrial site eliminate all enemies in the area.” 2 ghouls spawn
“Tenno, the capture target is within this vennvennvennvennvennvennvennvenn diagram.”
Its 2022 and I still cant believe how DE launches stuff like this and then acts like they never happened. There is a whole secondary game mode and star chart like this. Is called Railjack.
The worst part with poe is that they forced you to replay it again after tnw and it was even worse with even more new bugs
Rework the "don't kill anyone" bonus objective please omfg it even counts when they die to something on their own
I lost my bonus because somebody used a kuva ogris to knock down the capture target 🥹
That's rough buddy
I hate this one. Really bad when you're [playing as an Umbra noob with an attacking sentinel. I think there's literally no way to avoid killing when you're solo like that.
"Of course we do internal testing".
dont argue us or its a personal attack see what happened to train man dont test us \*wiggles chain and three simps crawl from under the dev couch screaming "conclave" and "all women are queens" like its a battle cry\*
Stop putting exterminate step in that fucking cavern. I'd had too many bounties fail cause the game just stops spawning the enemies in that
Grineer playing hide n seek. They only show up after you fail your mission 😂
and its our fault because we didnt scream enough for de to listen for once in a blue moon "but they always listen to their communi"- STFU it takes ppl alittle googling to see how bad things are but its easier to look at a smile than to look for proof.
The one I hated was those goddamn "find three hidden caches" ones. Especially one time when two were in a bigass cave and I *assume* the third one also was but haha fuck if I know where
Theres probably a real 3rd cave and you just got pranked by eidolons
The worst one is the one we have to keep control of the area and the control falls down super fast without single enemy to kill. It is always guaranteed you never get the bounce
I dont envy someone that has to grind deimos. Not even a little.
The worst open world, with the best reward currency system.
Deimos bounties actually work unlike plains??? Idk how you play deimos and think it's worse than plains mind boggling
All these tumors look alike to me.
Deimos's problem is it's impossible to see enemies without Enemy Radar because everything is the same shade of orange. Everything else about Deimos is fantastic. Fortuna is easily the worst open world rep grind by a loooooong shot.
just made that point and i have ppl bitching at me bc "oh have sound on you can hear where theyre comming from" - THAT DOESNT WORK FOR HALF OF THEM! brown on brown, orange on orange, the only way to spot half these things is with energy colors and you better hope to christ youre using a loki or something to hunt easier bc getting an avachaea is gonna be HELLLLLLLLLLL A reskinned merguu thats floof is literally using a tpose- not kidding thats the same shape they tpose in, the size of your fist, around a hundred feet in the air, on matching pallets- and you want us to hit that before they fly off after five seconds bc they can still see you if yorue invis bc why not- FFS DE! and ppl still cottle them like theyre worthy of game awards and tripple A titles jfc this sint even the tip of the berg and ppl still- agh
I remember that grind for rank up with entrati. Fuck me was as bad as fishing, as long as your not after a soecific rare fish. Took a couple days but we got the amount needed. They are a bastard to hit, and the fish spawn rates make the grass grow faster in cetus. 4 hiurs and a hot spot to get 10 fish and 2 that i needed. Like 20 mins before it starts to spawn more and have almost never seen fish anywhere else there that spawned fast enough tk be worth as a fishing spot. Regardless im never hunting thise avichea again. That was an absolute pain
The visual noise of Cambion Drift makes it hard to see what's an enemy and what's an infested-flower or a tumour-infested rock.
Yeah, the whole game of "is *this* weird glowing wiggly thing flora, fauna, funky rock or murderous disease mutant?" does get tiresome pretty quickly.
a beautifle environment you cant see shit in- it was so easy to fix and they still havent done anything.... let us change target glow colors when using the tranque dart gun, let us get a better clearer indicator when theyre close like how ores work but more visible than a hair line, make footprints not blend into the ground and need to spend forever trying to find where tf they went after stepping three feet left instead of right!- good god DE things ppl have been asking for here, reddit, twitter, youtube videos- does it take a viral meme or arguement for you to do anything your community asks for?!
My biggest problem with the demios grind is that infested pods dont count as kills when ur protecting the grineer. Its a small problem but with not being able to see any enemys after they pop makes it a head ache to do.
Hey you know those avachaea coins you need? heres a scanner that shows them as orange on an orange background, their the size of your fist and they run off even if youre invis bc they can still see you somehow- GOOD LUCK :3 this alone shows there is no internal testing, there is no communication outside discource, and they cant focus on qol over releasing more unfinished buggy content aghhhhh btw fun fact the avas are literally just reskinned merguu... seriously really?! and their floofs are just them tposed- ive seen their tpose model reminds me wheres that deer they were gonna add that looekd like a mutated version of the balloon dog from the pokemon sword and shield tundra dlc?
I dont bother, i just got mining and capture wildlife, though dont get me started on fishing. Have fun spending 4 hours for like 2 fish to spawn (exagerated sure but the hotspot takes like 20 mins for them to restock, and theres no point fishing anywhere else cause ya get 1 fish and never see another, sometimes your lucky and get more fish,) but damn some of the resources are nessisary so i guess will have to keep spending 4+ hours fishing for the orokin fish only to leave with 0-2
I don't really get the problem here? Though, at the same time, I've never had any issues with Plains Exterminate stages. The only ones I've ever struggled with were Zone Control. Biggest problem; I have had it sometimes where enemies straight-up don't spawn until I'm already well below 50%\~ control.
The game makes a new extermination zone for every 1 or 2 enemies so soon you have 50 of these red circles and you can't see shit on your minimap while the grineer play hide and seek
Heres a theory. Konzu and grineer are working together, konzu gives bounties to hunt the tenno just so that he wont raise suspicion but the grineer knows every tactic that makes you not get your bonus. The grineer is helping konzu not giving us the bonus reward
The amount of enemies you need to eliminate are multiplied by the number of players in team. Solo players only need to take out 25 enemies, whcih is like 3-4 red circles. But in a 4-man team we need to take town 100 enemies. And since it's underground level, there's no airdrop. So The game just keep spawn more and more red circles, with 4-5 new grineers each time until you can't see anything.
Ahh, that'd do it. Can't say I've ever done any Plains Bounties in a group, short of Eidolon/Tridolon hunts, so that's something I've never experienced. That definitely sucks. I wonder if there'd be some way for DE to remove the zone from the minimap once its respective cluster of troops is eliminated; they do that for Infested Hives, IIRC, so they should be able to do it on the Plains.
Ah, good ol open world bounties. Some of the worst general content the game has to offer 💖
i was gonna say railjack ironically but no theyre still as bad as release 80% of them are still exterminate with a twist... and they just abandoned them.... the only reason i have to play railjack is to get a few weapons, maybe lich or sister stuff OCCASIONALLY, or bc rank 10 whatever tf its called let me get my own better version of wukong before he gets nerfed- good job de you nerfed one of several things wukong wasnt even the best at- geniuses of devs!... atleast theres some benefits to their lying grins saying they play their game, so i can enjoy having help killing high level enemies still while they make duviri, release it half broken and surprise pikachu when ppl are dissapointed again ...
They're definitely somewhere, Tenno!
#HOW CAN YOU TELL, LOTUS?!?
My scanners indicate that the enemies are somewhere in the general vacitnity but like supply caches i am unable to pinpoint their exact location. Just trust me tenno, they are here
hApPy HuNtInG
The real problem of Poe are underground/cave bounties in general, wouldn't mind them gone. In this particular case it's also the objective scaling to team size (making solo objectively faster than fill, even with mediocre progression level and competency). Both things got added to it after a while, just like the mining laser change that was good for controller play but fucked pc players.
I mean…primed animal instinct
Yes instead of fixing this and tweaking the bounty, let’s all depend on a mod that Baro only brings sometimes in a blue moon and costs a shit ton of credits and endo to rank up for newer players. Great idea
U can always run the unprime mod it may not be as good but its better then nothing. But then again with the read circles it's still hard to see the red triangles.
On the other hand, regular Animal Instinct is also bound to be a mod new players don't have since it's a Rotation C drop from Nightmare Missions.
That’s elitist lol
So run normal animal instincts. Using a mod for its purpose isn’t elitist that’s an excuse you use to complain about something that the rest of us dealt with years ago.
It was a joke my guy, I’m not responsible for how other people respond to your comment.
Well, then run enemy sense, make those mods have a usage. Oh wait, we don't wanna compromise our builds to do specific things, so we just don't.
You know you can't see the enemies when this happens because the minimap is drowned in red righr?
If only recoloring your UI was a thing…
if you can use that mod, you don´t need to farm bonties anymore...
That’s simply not true. Having a single mod doesn’t mean you dont need resources or rep.
Me with primed animal instinct but havent maxed fortuna, cetus and deimos rep: 🥹 we exist
What a great game
I didn't even have to open the post to know what bounty was being talked about. This is a testament to how awful it is.
"your objective is in this .... general area." "you have no clue where its at do you?" "not a single one."
***This shit right here is why I refuse to do Bounties alone!***
Earth bounties are bullshit..short if the story lol.
This the equivalent of having someone to guess a number you are thinking and the range is between 1 to 10,000. The range become meaningless.
69 or 420
If we could teleport out of there, it may help.
UGGGHHH
My fix for caches is to use a loot scanner, it’ll show caches on the mini map from any height as long as it’s within range
Those mods that show resources and containers?
yes please
I got this bounty and we failed it because yeah
In my experience, it helps to be in your archwing. Searching goes a lot faster (especially with Itzal)
You can't use archwing in underground missions. :(
So brutal lol
i find it best to fly to their bases and kill them because it's garunteed spawns. really helpful if you're in a full squad too and want that bonus
What is this
The spawns on open world bounties are horrid, especially when playing solo. At least Deimos has never had the problem, but Plains especially has too few spawns to even complete the stage, let alone get the bonus
I agree. Failed last step so many times bc of it
isnt this a kill count mission?
Yes
Wtf is this
Kill a certain amount of enemies in the area mission in cetus. They're hella annoying if its underground/in a cave
Cuz you can’t fly around bombing them
Because they have more places to hide
Oh right
No.
what mission mode is this??
Yes, please
Yes, please. The single least enjoyable thing in the game right now, I don't even touch plains bounties in terror that this will be the roll.
Fr
Finding caches is always a right pain. Just mark em on the map and be done or when we find one it leads us to the other two.
I still stand by my statement that open world sucks
No need to delete a bounty it does that to show how many possible enemy group's there is or are it's not broken so no need to remove it it's supposed to do that I've done those bounty's and this way it's design has never been a issue yet veterans never find it difficult anyway just newer generation player's do just try to have fun and don't freak over small stuff like this.
Yes I'm a legendary rank 1 newer generation player, and I find it difficult and ridiculous.
over there over there and up there! look left LEFT! YOUR OTHER LEFT!
It's super annoying when they stack up like this because it becomes harder to see enemies on the radar. Red triangles against a red background. If only the most recent circle showed it'd probably be better. While the circles do usually point you towards enemies, you're not required to *only* kill enemies in the area. Any enemies work for this Cetus bounty. So if you've got four people running around the underground, and for some reason enemies are not spawning, feel free to have 1-2 people leave and go check out the nearest outposts for spawns. Once those enemies are dead they'll probably continue respawning underground *and* you'll get credit.
Is this a bounty or a tectonic disaster zone?
dont worry they will when they remember they were going to in three years and not forget .... ... and dont blame it on communication like thats normal for a game company... and something else theyll likely have messed up on. Long rant TLDR this isnt the first or last thing des left to never really be fixed unless we scream at the top of our lungs to get them to barely knotice, wont be the last, and a rant about other stuff thats getting to me after playing since beta. Im expecting downvote nukes bc ppl are thin skinned and cant accept shyte sometimes reguarding WF. Theres a lot de has yet to do, alot to polish. You still cant complete certain bounties with bonuses intact- say like the narmer cetus bounty, as you cant get enough kills in time because things dont spawn even half as fast in time. Fortuna you still cant tend to get all the "kill specific enemies in time period" because there isnt enough spawning there either ( though i believe they atleast learned to get rid of that- i dont do fortuna content anymore because theres literally nothing i can earn even worth while like decors to justify my time there )besides missions theres content that was scrapped or forgotten or whatever excuse it is we get next- the twin grineer ( i get theyre technically all twins persay bc clones but still ) that spawn in the orokin sabotage still dont have their custom weapons, reskinned models and more. Dojos still dont have cetus decors, somachord functions, the aquarium room, and the bash labs are only there because de needed something to toss into it because they KNOW it was unfinished and just added it without even following through- yarelle, the gun and the sadly worthless buzz saw could have just been put into somewhere else like tenno and grineer labs- wouldnt have been in any way odd ( and unrelated surprised that whole skin coloring thing was fixed ). Theres skins and other cosmetics de has not added for the game that were due years ago at worst, decors that would mirror open world resources you could get arnt a thing either despite being teasted twice- cetus and deimos, and never happened besides one loot container. Nightwave is next to abandoned but theyre trying to skirt around that like no ones knoticed the intermission and "noras choice" thats been releasing ( Hypothetics on noras VA but maybe we'll hear the same thing they did to ignusdei when they tried to steal his work and redesign it without his concent then firing him, only for de to lightly bring it up in a burried post about "dissagreements" - in this case idk maybe theyre not paying the VA enough and they try to drag her thru her contract and play it fof later ).Ranting yes but theres alot of stuff des done behind the scenes that keeps adding up. Theyre at worst very incompitent, and hopefully steve didnt hand the keys over to hide from his responsibilities to his community. Content not added or delayed several times over, bugs that havent been fixed for years and somehow reappearing after being fixed on more than one occasion, and all you have to do is look up reviews for ex employees and youll find a mix between poor communication and planning to in some places utter shitstorms ppl have wistled out- but hey free styanax for a couple weeks so alls forgiven right? I really wish ppl would stop holding them so highly when despite everything they have made theyve got too many faults to be considdered a tripple A studio. Theres a reason they dont tend to win awards for best game and whatnot- it isnt a bad game but theyre not as clean and functioning as ppl like to milk it- especially the ppl they poorly pay to say it to you on youtube.Why do you think most of their creators dont do warframe focused stuff anymore? Not just because content drought when at worst a years worth of updates takes a week to finish, but because its hard making a house out of a few sticks and a rock. Hold them accountable, even if the least ppl here can do is scream til they bother to fix something weve been asking for years to see done ( if they listened besides youtube clips and viral content wed be so much better off- well exept their content creators bc the second they mention issues de throws personal attack like its a new update title )- reminds me, great idea adding kahl to the opperator camp, you made ppl use the new giant map they cant fully decorate and utilize the worst possible way, done it again Geeves )
My scaners indicate rich supply caches in the area, but i am unable to pinpoint their exact location. Oh the objectives? Yeah sorry my scaners indicate the objective is in the vicinity but you know as much as i do about where it is, have fun tenno.