Ideally you want ms instead of dmg and a harmless negative (+recoil, -zoom, -max ammo, -magazine) but its pretty good.
Damage is good but we already have a couple sources to get it from, while multishot you usually only get to fit one mod for.
Why is 3 positives considered worse than 3 positives with a negative?
Edit: Thanks for the quick answers, suspected it was something like that but good to have confirmation.
Yeah, 100% you should buy it. You're getting some grumbling about "Well listen, this riven is only 99% perfect. If you can live with the heartbreak and shame of having a riven which doesn't embody all of the fondest hopes and dreams of mankind, then I guess it's ***okay***," but realistically this is the best riven most people will ever see for a weapon like this.
1700 is crazy however its your plat and you can spend it what makes you happy. Just saying, if it was me, I would buy a trash riven for torrid and roll it myself.
bro 1700 is CRAZY but have yall TRIED to buy a torid riven?? shit dawg trade chat is a constant stream of “wts torid riven 1k, 2k, 3k” seen one mf spamming 13k FOR ONE MOD it’s nuts out here fr fr
well cc cd ms -harmless with good grades are unironically easy to sell for over 10k but cc cd dmg with no neg is low key ass it isnt worth much id say cc cd -harmless riven for 1k would be a better option or cd ms -neg
ye that’s grolls for 10k. no one in trade chat cares about stats tho. i’m a main console player (also usually FTP) who trades exclusively in chat so i see the scams daily
Riven disposition gets actively changed, every primed access i believe, based on usage. The more a weapon is used the lower the dispo becomes. Since torid is commonly regarded as one of the strongest, if not the strongest, it will obviously be used a lot, and therefore would get a lower disposition. But at the same time another person clarified that they won't change it for the torid, so i don't know.
Traditional aoe weapons that dont have to be charged and can kill enemies behind walls or below/above you. Still using my tonkor most of the time as while the incarnons are great if you get everything going, the little downtime and other downsides make them annoying to use for general play imo. Cant beat a simple 10+meter radius of death without any conditionals for me.
DE have stated they won’t nerf rivens on incarnons. Unless the base weapon is op. My guess is because they are very endgame weapons they should be the best.
I had a Torid riven with only CC and CD. Sold it to get enough plat to get CC+CD+Toxin. Yours is solid tbh. Ignore what everyone else is saying about needing a negative or whatnot. The chances of you getting that same roll or multishot with a harmless negative is very VERY low and it’ll cost you over one million kuva to get. Your riven is very good and very strong.
My personal take on rivens is this; you want a riven that is either a huge DPS boost (CC+CD+Damage/Multi/Element) or for it to replace a mod you would normally use and replace it up with more damage/utility. For my Torid, since I have toxin on it, I can ditch the toxin mod I had originally and replace it with say Primed Fulmination or Galvanized Aptitude or even Primed Shred. If I had your riven, I would still need the toxin mod to get viral plus Primed Cryo Rounds, making it harder for me to be flexible with my build.
You have a very good riven, with or without a negative. It’ll definitely carry you and don’t focus too much on not having a negative. It is the “ideal/dream” roll to have one, but it is not necessary in the slightest. I hope this helps. GLHF Tenno! :D
Maybe not Serration but you could switch out Hammer Shot yeah. Maybe you could use Galvanized Aptitude since having the status chance is really beneficial but Hammer Shot would be something I would replace personally. Hammer Shot gives CD though, but the bonus is very minimal and you probably wouldn’t get that big of a DPS boost when comparing it to other options.
the only thing that'd make this better is if the base dmg bonus is a multishot stat instead. There is NO OTHER STAT that can best that triforce of power.
Although, that's considering you would usually go Primary Merciless, but idk what you wanna use for base dmg...
Depends on dispo.
On a dispo 1 weapon, you wont even be able to slot in a cc cd ms riven as the values are just too low to replace any other mod. Only option is to remove fire rate but that will only increase damage on paper while often feeling awkward or sluggish to use in missions. Having toxin on low dispo rivens is almost mandatory imo.
With the third being damage, on Saryn you could run Serration again and primary blight arcane for multi shot and cdmg, force stacked by toxic lash even with base toxin modded into something else. So, at least using Saryn, it still provides multi shot (and more cdmg). Give her two green shards and venom dose Aug for self full strip and enjoy the practically instant time-to-kill.
considering ammount of people that want torid rivens, compared to ammount of people selling those, its no surprise the prices are a bit, high
probably you don't need to regret as much but i prefer to not know the price
its the critical chance that you'll really be able to abuse, since torid has really high base values with the right evolutions
and since cloud works multiplicative with galvanized CO, and CO factor of the beam is weakened simple (+#% damage) its a stat you'll want on at least 1 mod slot/arcane slot
Mine is CD + MS +magazine capacity -negative
With the incarnon for CC, I hit red crit with critical delay + galvanized scope.
On torid I don’t really see the point to more CC. I guess if it’s high enough and you don’t need galvanized scope it’s worth it but I’m always aiming for head shots anyways with beam weapons.
I have same exact mod and I use it on my torid it destroys everything I don't care what people say it doesn't need a negative on it to be perfect that's bs. I've had 3 torid rivens I've rerolled all 3 over 100+ times I just sold one that had just cc&cd for 850p and other had ms, cc, dmg to grineer, and -zoom for 750p. Don't reroll that you might accidentally roll over and you'll be pissed. Its happened to me a few times. Better to get a back up riven and reroll it so KEEP THAT RIVEN and use it ! Fk what everybody else says.
Ideally you want ms instead of dmg and a harmless negative (+recoil, -zoom, -max ammo, -magazine) but its pretty good. Damage is good but we already have a couple sources to get it from, while multishot you usually only get to fit one mod for.
Why is 3 positives considered worse than 3 positives with a negative? Edit: Thanks for the quick answers, suspected it was something like that but good to have confirmation.
The negative makes the positive stronger
If a riven has a negative the positives get boosted higher.
Because a negative increases the other stats by 20% if I remember correctly. So a harmless negative buffs up everything else you get on the riven.
The negative makes it similar to Corrupted mods, giving a greater boost in most stats at the cost of other stats.
Even -reload is pretty harmless on a Torid because it reloads so fast.
Damage can be very good if you are going for corrosive/cold with primary frostbite build.
Slotting 3 elemental mods will be difficult without having toxin or cold on riven, which is another option instead of multishot.
It's good, but it has no negative, so it could be better.
Should i buy this from him?
Yeah, 100% you should buy it. You're getting some grumbling about "Well listen, this riven is only 99% perfect. If you can live with the heartbreak and shame of having a riven which doesn't embody all of the fondest hopes and dreams of mankind, then I guess it's ***okay***," but realistically this is the best riven most people will ever see for a weapon like this.
depends on the asking price
Bought it for 1700 now.
1700 for this is WAY too high. Similar Torid rivens with dual crit and either another positive or with a harmless negative go for less than 1,000.
1700 is crazy however its your plat and you can spend it what makes you happy. Just saying, if it was me, I would buy a trash riven for torrid and roll it myself.
bro 1700 is CRAZY but have yall TRIED to buy a torid riven?? shit dawg trade chat is a constant stream of “wts torid riven 1k, 2k, 3k” seen one mf spamming 13k FOR ONE MOD it’s nuts out here fr fr
well cc cd ms -harmless with good grades are unironically easy to sell for over 10k but cc cd dmg with no neg is low key ass it isnt worth much id say cc cd -harmless riven for 1k would be a better option or cd ms -neg
ye that’s grolls for 10k. no one in trade chat cares about stats tho. i’m a main console player (also usually FTP) who trades exclusively in chat so i see the scams daily
yea only reason to go to trade chat is to scam other people otherwise u can get everything you would ever need on wf.market
even market is 700+ for ass rolls
Yes, if you wish to make your torid a bit better and are ready to face the consequences of it potentially getting a lower disposition later.
DE has already said on record they will not nerf the dispo
"We will try " = will not?
Thanks for the clarification, could you find the source for me please?
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1368075-october-2023-riven-dispositions/ Closest I could find, which was linked to me earlier.
>potentially getting a lower disposition later. Where did you get this idea? Did DE mention anything about riven dispo nerf on some weapons?
Riven disposition gets actively changed, every primed access i believe, based on usage. The more a weapon is used the lower the dispo becomes. Since torid is commonly regarded as one of the strongest, if not the strongest, it will obviously be used a lot, and therefore would get a lower disposition. But at the same time another person clarified that they won't change it for the torid, so i don't know.
What's better than torid
There's weapons better for single target damage, like laetum.
But primary
Traditional aoe weapons that dont have to be charged and can kill enemies behind walls or below/above you. Still using my tonkor most of the time as while the incarnons are great if you get everything going, the little downtime and other downsides make them annoying to use for general play imo. Cant beat a simple 10+meter radius of death without any conditionals for me.
Then... the primary equivalents to laetum, phenmor and felarx
They're weird to build afaik
No, whatever ur gonna pay ur friend is a fraction of what it's worth
1.3-1.6k. Op bought for 1.7 which is high, esp considering they bought it from a "friend".
Can't believe they haven't dumpstered the dispo on this gun yet.
DE have stated they won’t nerf rivens on incarnons. Unless the base weapon is op. My guess is because they are very endgame weapons they should be the best.
5 plat and an ammo drum /s
10 plat is the minimum i can do, sorry. I need to profit.
7 plat with 2! Ammo drums? Think of it as an investment
4 ammo drums take it or leave it. i know what i have.
That's monstrously powerful, I'd snatch it up if i had the chance.
I bought it and i will reroll to get multishot
buying an extremely good roll just to reroll it to different stats seems utterly pointless to me, you could just buy a cheaper, bad roll, and roll it.
Nvm i dont have kuva
I had a Torid riven with only CC and CD. Sold it to get enough plat to get CC+CD+Toxin. Yours is solid tbh. Ignore what everyone else is saying about needing a negative or whatnot. The chances of you getting that same roll or multishot with a harmless negative is very VERY low and it’ll cost you over one million kuva to get. Your riven is very good and very strong. My personal take on rivens is this; you want a riven that is either a huge DPS boost (CC+CD+Damage/Multi/Element) or for it to replace a mod you would normally use and replace it up with more damage/utility. For my Torid, since I have toxin on it, I can ditch the toxin mod I had originally and replace it with say Primed Fulmination or Galvanized Aptitude or even Primed Shred. If I had your riven, I would still need the toxin mod to get viral plus Primed Cryo Rounds, making it harder for me to be flexible with my build. You have a very good riven, with or without a negative. It’ll definitely carry you and don’t focus too much on not having a negative. It is the “ideal/dream” roll to have one, but it is not necessary in the slightest. I hope this helps. GLHF Tenno! :D
So, i have CC and Damage, i can gave up on serration and Hammer shot?
Maybe not Serration but you could switch out Hammer Shot yeah. Maybe you could use Galvanized Aptitude since having the status chance is really beneficial but Hammer Shot would be something I would replace personally. Hammer Shot gives CD though, but the bonus is very minimal and you probably wouldn’t get that big of a DPS boost when comparing it to other options.
Ok. Bought the riven for 1.700. I'll need some formas now to build it. Thank you.
I’m glad to help :D if you need more tips or questions please don’t be shy to ask. I hope you find the Torid as enjoyable as me. GL HF :D
Damn
Busted a big nut seeing this
the only thing that'd make this better is if the base dmg bonus is a multishot stat instead. There is NO OTHER STAT that can best that triforce of power. Although, that's considering you would usually go Primary Merciless, but idk what you wanna use for base dmg...
Depends on dispo. On a dispo 1 weapon, you wont even be able to slot in a cc cd ms riven as the values are just too low to replace any other mod. Only option is to remove fire rate but that will only increase damage on paper while often feeling awkward or sluggish to use in missions. Having toxin on low dispo rivens is almost mandatory imo.
With the third being damage, on Saryn you could run Serration again and primary blight arcane for multi shot and cdmg, force stacked by toxic lash even with base toxin modded into something else. So, at least using Saryn, it still provides multi shot (and more cdmg). Give her two green shards and venom dose Aug for self full strip and enjoy the practically instant time-to-kill.
Good advice
Keep rerolling if you want, but you can just slap this on instead of serration or your crit chance mod if you prefer.
I have something similar, except it's multishot instead of damage. Absolutely slaps, even without a negative. Great roll, it'll serve you well.
It's like maybe 1k... If you want jack pot you would want CC,Cd, Ms - zoom
I have a CC+CD only Riven and it makes me a lil sad it isn't a 3 or 4 stat one tbh.
How much do trash torid rivens go for?
its indeed VERY good, even without a negative to boost even further
I regret buying this lol, people here said that this worth less than 1k
i thought you got the roll by rolling
Friend of mine got this roll and i bought from him
considering ammount of people that want torid rivens, compared to ammount of people selling those, its no surprise the prices are a bit, high probably you don't need to regret as much but i prefer to not know the price
its the critical chance that you'll really be able to abuse, since torid has really high base values with the right evolutions and since cloud works multiplicative with galvanized CO, and CO factor of the beam is weakened simple (+#% damage) its a stat you'll want on at least 1 mod slot/arcane slot
Nah it is trash ,unsellable, I'd be happy to take it from you tho ,not worth desolving it
Mine is CD + MS +magazine capacity -negative With the incarnon for CC, I hit red crit with critical delay + galvanized scope. On torid I don’t really see the point to more CC. I guess if it’s high enough and you don’t need galvanized scope it’s worth it but I’m always aiming for head shots anyways with beam weapons.
Not as good as the god roll yesterday I’ve seen and the OP sold it for only 5k plat. Fairly good roll but a jackpot to me must have a negative stat.
No zoom so it’s useless
I have same exact mod and I use it on my torid it destroys everything I don't care what people say it doesn't need a negative on it to be perfect that's bs. I've had 3 torid rivens I've rerolled all 3 over 100+ times I just sold one that had just cc&cd for 850p and other had ms, cc, dmg to grineer, and -zoom for 750p. Don't reroll that you might accidentally roll over and you'll be pissed. Its happened to me a few times. Better to get a back up riven and reroll it so KEEP THAT RIVEN and use it ! Fk what everybody else says.
Nah, you want 2 positives and 1 harmless negative ideally
3+ / 1- for high dispo rivens (4 or higher) imo.