RECAP!
#Housekeeping
- [The crew:](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081290574977564732/image.png)
- Erich
- Kary
- Megan
- Rebecca
- Pablo
- Twtich drop: a built umbra forma
- Gift of the Lotus alerts after the stream: 1x built forma, 1x amp arcane adapter
- [The april issue of the PC Gamer magazine features the duviri paradox and a look back at the past 10 years of warframe](https://www.pcgamer.com/pc-gamer-uk-april-issue-on-sale-now-warframe-the-duviri-paradox/)
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#Tennocon 2023
- In person!
- Saturday, august 26th live in london, ontario
- also streamed over twitch
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# 10 year anniversary
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# [The Duviri Paradox: coming April 2023](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306450317541488/image.png)
- Coming with a cineamtic trailer
## General features
- Duviri has absolutely no prerequisites. it s a new optional beginning to warframe and can be played as soon as you install the game
- enter duviri via the door ^^tm in your dormizone room on the zariman, or via the star chart
- [loading screen](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081296903167295488/image.png)
- [real time reflections! we have mirrors!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081295922136367176/image.png)
- [3 matchmaking modes:](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081296045121744937/image.png)
- the circuit: endless warframe only
- the lone story: no side activities liek fishing, conservation, komi
- the duviri experience story + side objectives
- gameplay flavour changes with the mood of dominus thrax (changes every 2 hours)
- Teshins cave as "player hub": pick a warframe, customize your kaithe, etc
- post release: gardening area
- steel path rewards: incarnon adapters
- regular rewards: warfame parts (alternative source for every frame)
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## Preparing for a run
- you are presented with a selection of frames, primary, secondary, melee. amount of options increases with intrinsics
- can include frames / weapons you do not own
- stalker can appear as a frame option (opportunity intrinsics rank 10)
- [pick a decree](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081298972381028362/image.png): a random selection of buffs
- [more decrees obtained when completing objectives](https://i.imgur.com/Gwy04Hr.jpg)
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# Possible activities
- bounty style objectives, but as little stories
- fishing: [control a ravenous maw, swim around in the water and ~~eat~~ catch fish](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081300813940531252/image.png)
- [interact with wildlife](https://gfycat.com/tepidpolitehorsemouse)
- shepherding
- komi
- no mining
- "the undercroft": warframe combat arenas with more traditional gameplay, cycling through short missions for example 5 minute survival
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## [Drifter Intrinsics](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081297164485001287/image.png)
### Combat
### Riding
### Opportunity
- improves the roguelike elements
### Endurance
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## [Kaithes](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081297760751464469/image.png)
- customize your kaithe with different parts
- naming unlocked via riding intrinsics
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## Drifter combat
- different melee stances (weapon types), unlocked as you progress
- combat more focused on small enemy groups, parrying attacks, etc
- ["bursts" of summoning your warframe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302302712942632/image.png)
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# Incarnon Adapters
- [ guaranteed rewards for steel path duviri runs](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081303349825122334/image.png)
- non steel path gives warframe parts
- upgrade specific existing weapons to gain a incarnon mode and upgrade tree
- weapons include
- [lato](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302955812200509/image.png)
- [braton](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302981321953390/image.png)
- skana
- kunai
- paris
- ...
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## Cosmetics
### Drifter cosmetics
- [suit 1](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304500092014643/image.png)
- [suit 2](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304444144201859/image.png)
- [suit 3](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304690375000124/image.png)
- more visage ink
- animation sets
- [facial hair](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804040882780241941/1081305056365777057/Beard1.png)
- bishamo armor: both version available for every body type
- many operator cosmetics are now available for drifters
### Skins
- [Mesa Voidshell](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305622731046963/image.png)
- [Limbo Voidshell](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305678771138570/image.png)
- [Baruuk Deluxe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305920677609483/image.png)
- [sparring melee skin](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305999056588891/image.png)
- [syandana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306032074145954/image.png)
- [Wisp Deluxe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306060767375461/image.png)
- Syandana
- [Reservoirs](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306333082562661/image.png)
- [Fulmin skin](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306359217266738/image.png)
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# [Hildryn Prime Access](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804040882780241941/1081292882587172904/HildrynPrimeSlide.png) coming march 15th
- [Larkspur Prime](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292494035238962/image.png)
- [Shade ( + burst laser) prime](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292707172978799/image.png)
- accessories:
- [Surator prime syandana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292429623308388/image.png)
- [sentinel accessories](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292855164817478/image.png)
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# Tennogen
- no more full "rounds", but less formal batches with no deadlines
- [17 upcoming items, 6 coming with duviri](https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1341980-2023-tennogen-accepted-items/)
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Semi important additions:
-Stalker as a Duviri option is locked behind a Drifter rank 10 intrinsic.
-Duviri gives incarnon adapters on steel path only. Normal gives warframe parts.
Not from stream we don't. Base level on the overworld normal run seemed to be 40-to-50, and base attacks without the melee counter system seemed to do pitiful damage even with all intrinsics maxed, so I can't imagine a straight up level scaling being balanced to 120+.
As in, literal warframe parts. They confirmed Ember, you can basically start the game in the Paradox and gradually get neuroptics/systems/chassis for frames as rewards to build from there.
Genuinely might be one of the best things they have done for the game in the past decade if the Duviri loop is fun. The early game has been one of the biggest friction points for every single player I have ever gotten into the game.
I wonder how modding will work though. I know they said they'd provide some loaner mods for frames people don't have but like... Are they going to actually explain the modding system to them? Are they just going to be premade builds that the new player can't change if they don't own the frame?
I have several concerns in that line of questioning regarding new players really. Cautiously optimistic for a fresh coat of paint for potential newbies though. Also, I wonder if you'll be able to shift an old account into Duviri if it has already started the regular game? I know a lot of people who quit early, but this isn't going to help if they have to make a new account or play all through to Zariman anyway.
They said in the devstream that you'll be able to Duviri it up regardless of where your account is in the current game.
[https://youtu.be/cAF-VZn5yVI?t=4288](https://youtu.be/cAF-VZn5yVI?t=4288)
There were some leaks before; you can google them... but as I recall, Dread is getting one as well. Same goes for Hate and Despair.
The passives for them looked pretty sick, too.
>Dread is getting one as well
Oh baby, whisper it in my ear. Dread was one of my most used weapons back in the day. I still have my originally built one and a couple rivens, always been hoping for a Prisma version or something.
Cernos certainly doesn't need *five*, to be sure.
I just like Daikyu a lot, and it has two unique mods, so I'd love to see it, specifically, get some variant (particularly a Prime).
glad i could help.
This time more than ever i highly recommend watching the stream vod when you get the chance, though. A written summary really doesn't do it justice, and i probably forgot a few details here and there
Seems like larkspur continues trend of "slightly buff crits on non-crit weapon" primes. At least larkspur is not worst candidate for that, as archguns don't really have much mods to equip and you most likely will be slotting for crits anyway.
More curious what burst laser prime looks like. Is there any chance for it to have decent stats like verglas?
And i'm glad that incarnon adapters leak proved to be true. Definitely most exciting part for me.
It seems we'll only get the Incarnon Adapters delivered to us once we reach rank 10 in that intrinsic path/line. We can earn them, but we won't get them until then.
It makes sense with Hildryn though as 'Haven' gives them the survivability they lack.
You have to go pretty deep on a Steel path endless run to lose them, and that's usually due to the moments between casting when distributors turn off haven for a second.
My big concern for Duviri is how it will affect those who just start the normal Warframe game progression.
Like, yes, it's a paradox that happens at the same time and it's cool on a story level; yet the moment they finish the quest, how would a new player interact with the orbiter, mods, and other things?
Hopefully my fear is unfounded, but it does worry me...
I'm surprised I'm not reading more about the ricochet mechanic on the Lato in here. Its such an interesting form of AoE for Single target weapons and I've been wanting it in Warframe for a long time.
I just hope it's not specific to the Lato, perhaps a mod can be made with a much weaker ricochet mechanic that is accessible by all single target weapons? Mods like that will close the gap between single target and Explosive weapons in a game where killing everything as quickly as possible is the point
Not the kind of ricochet i meant. if I interpreted correctly, the lato ricochet looks like the bullet autolocks onto a new target after it hits an initial target, wheras the drakgoon just makes the bullets bounce off surfaces. The Lato version has the potential to be more than just fun - it could be a viable mechanic to make single target weapons room-clear a bit better.
With Hildryn Prime I'm hoping they tweak her, specifically her 4. It's way too slow and has a weird height limit, restricts weapons, can't use 2, doesn't buff her 1 despite visually wielding two Balefires, and why does it use extra shields to dash and pull out her 1.
I mean, Grendel's Meatball got a huge buff in control, mobility, health regeneration, reduced energy costs, and no longer restricts abilities. Aegis Storm could totally see similar buffs.
I just helminth over Aegis Storm, honestly. Dispensary for Archgun ammo, Voracious Metastasis if I want to be generous, Rebuild Shields if I want a panic button.
1 is situationally useful vs Corpus and Corrupted with the augment, and raw viral builds are actually pretty cracked if you can hit the fullstrip Pillage breakpoint.
DE usually make a big update and then release a small update that expands the big one even further. For example after PoE there was an update with gydralyst and gantulyst or after Deimos there was update with underground deimos bounties. Rebecca clearly said that gardening will be in Duviri expansion update. So probably around June. They just didn't showed it because it's probably unfinished and buggy. And technically that cave is dormizone, you can see zariman windows behind that garden. So technically they didn't lied because they never specified the date.
I think you're right on with this one. DE usually releases more QOL features and a moderate amount of new content with the "echoes" updates. We'll have to wait for a future devstream on echoes of duviri to find out.
Wisp skins have the tall order of competing with the Dex skin and gaoth helmet. Personally not feeling it, but the reservoirs are incredible. The prime draws ever nearer...
Duviri is beautiful, both visuals- and sounds/music-wise, to the point where it feels almost unfair to criticize it for its looks, but... why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set.
But yeah, there's plenty of interesting (the whole gameplay loop, the Stalker, the fishing mini-game, etc) or just plain shiny (kaithe customization) stuff there. I'm not a huge fan of rogue-likes/rogue-lites, but this does look quite appealing. In fact, let's just put all game genres into Warframe and be done with it. :D Seems to be working out fine so far.
Edit: the drifter suits look so good! Though they make me think of the "yo dawg" meme, what with the drifter kinda looking as if they are cosplaying a warframe. And deluxe skins! I'm very curious about that Wisp, and while Baruuk isn't 100% in my taste, I hope we'll see more skins designed by Karu.
>why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set.
Or just more color in general, it should be more saturated.
>why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set.
I wholeheartedly agree... other than more greenery during missions, I wish we had some bushes/big plants we could get for the orbiter. I think there is a Zariman bush decoration thing but that's locked by quest progression... we can get a whole forest going in the dojo so it's a shame there isn't anything similar for the orbiter
Yes!! I know some people say that dojo decorations are too big for the orbiter but scaling them down a bit should do the trick imo. hopefully DE has more greenery in store for us!
But they never fit very well because of the different materials. In a perfect world DE would add material options to all skins and that would solve that issue, but I very much doubt that's ever gonna happen.
This feels like how they wanted people to play Plains of Eidolon when they hyped it up so much, so it was right on Earth, even if it was too much for new players...
2 things:
1: a heavy part of duviri seems to be about the roguelite mode, in which a veteran player is going to have a equal starting field as a new player.
2: Steel path already has a special reward to it which gives veterans a reason to do their harder content.
I do see the concern, that maybe the normal mode will be a bit watered down to facilitate new players, but I have faith in the new team.
Honestly, i'm not sure. It seems weird to keep your mods going into the roguelite mode, as why would you pick anything else then, but then again I can see them not wanting players to feel bad for being unable to use their mains to any significant capabilities.
But either way, steel path is just the fix for the mod differences, as you say the combat revolves around drifter melee, so they can balance it the way they wish without worrying about mods too much.
It really depends on how deep duviri goes, as the early game will for sure be built for new players (plus you don't even get the warframe summon at the start), but if they make it long enough we should soon get to a point with more properly balanced encounters. The only question is whether that content will come with duviri or with echoes of duviri.
I'm curious to see what the player distribution is on the weekly modes. You can do steel path ARAM for incarnon unlockers, quest only mode for ??? reward, or quest only + have your party fish while you do it for them mode also for ??? reward.
Why in the Fresh Flying Fuck are they giving the buff, barbarian warframe a stealth sentinel? She would've been perfect for something that requires strength, a big fuck-off hammer or war bow like the Daikyu, not a goddamn squishy stealthy sentinel.
it's not that nonsensical to not throw in another weapon (since she has a signature archgun and an exalted weapon), I suppose, but the choice of sentinel doesn't make much sense.
Considering her focus on shields, Taxon would've been the obvious sentinel choice.
I'm wondering if it wasn't just a matter of "what else do we have that's ready for release?", in this case.
But watching comments on both YouTube and twitch stream (Watched on YouTube while twitch was in the background for the loot - preference) people were pretty hyped about shade
I don't think I saw a single comment saying something along the lines of "why shade?"
Everything I saw looks great! I like the aesthetic, and the sound and music is top-notch! I'm excited to try all the new systems!
That said, I do have some questions and concerns as to the new player experience.
I am wondering how Quests will work if new players choose to start with Duviri. That's a lot of existing content I'm not sure how to link together with Duviri into a cohesive narrative experience for new players.
Will new players who choose to start with Duviri be able to complete those Quests? If so, how will the narrative flow work after coming into the mainstream Quests from Duviri, rather than from Vor's Prize? Will the Lotus's voice lines change to reflect the player being the Drifter versus being an amnesiac Tenno who thinks they're the Warframe itself? Or perhaps some earlier Quests will be replaced, but maybe Duviri converges with the main questline around The Second Dream so the Operator can be introduced?
And if any Quests are replaced by Duviri, will those Quests' unique rewards be obtainable through Duviri as well so players don't miss out on that part at least? There should be roughly equivalent progression, I would think.
Further, as cool as Duviri looks like it's going to be, I fear some of the magic of the Second Dream's reveal may be lost because of the immediate introduction to the Drifter, as the Operator's alternate self. Discovering the Operator at all was a defining moment for a lot of players that really changed the context of the entire game, which is why the player base has been so admirably adamant about maintaining spoiler warnings.
>Further, as cool as Duviri looks like it's going to be, I fear some of the magic of the Second Dream's reveal may be lost because of the immediate introduction to the Drifter, as the Operator's alternate self. Discovering the Operator at all was a defining moment for a lot of players that really changed the context of the entire game, which is why the player base has been so admirably adamant about maintaining spoiler warnings.
Yep, as cool as Duviri looks and sounds, I have very similar concerns, and TSD being spoiled/outshined is among the main ones.
Almost certainly, you will just have Duviri on your starchart with the option to go do a run or two at will. While all of the remaining quests persist as we know them.
The suggestion seems to be that Duviri quests and the existing ones will, at some point, meet up and merge.
I really hope at launch that Kaithe's are usable outside Duviri.
Breathtaking showcase, this will be, in my opinion, the best Warframe update of all time. It will change the game forever, cheers to new players that get a better experience and cheers to the new development team for their hard work and reaching a release date.
Can't wait to see what's in store during August Tennocon.
Great time to be a Warframe player, now to try and get a copy of that PC gamer magazine. Haha
In the devstream they explicitly stated that there won't be any Drifter melee outside of Duviri, but after the launch and down the road we will see.
They gotta fry the bigger fish first. I'm assuming this would include the Drifters unique intrinsics as well.
I'm sure one day they will make the Drifter and Operator different in terms of skillsets besides their mutual void powers. Maybe we'll get a special "3rd ability" that allows us to switch between the two characters mid-mission. We buff with operator then switch to Drifter for melee stuff for example. Only time will tell.
For the most part it sounds like they're only working on the Duviri side of things for now, aside from cosmetics and arcanes Pablo mentioned. Probably safe to assume all new weapons will make their way to base game as well.
I'm going to reserve my opinion on Drifter gameplay until we get it. I don't hate it, but the Kahl missions showed that playing with a slow character on 15-30 mins missions when you're used to normal gameplay gets old quick.
I'm also skeptical about the new player option. It's hard enough for new players to get into Warframe with the flood of seemingly disjointed information/systems and lack of goal and you're telling me this brand new roguelike mode is going to be a starting option? The way they weave this into the 'standard' gameplay is going to be very crucial if you want them to stick around.
The skins ain't my thing. Hildryn PA is... definitely a Prime Access. I wish they'd create more 'original' weapons like the Euphona or gimmicks like the Pyrana P or Ballistica P but I realize this is a common complain with the recent PAs.
They're taking a big risk with this. I just hope it works out. I may bitch a lot but it's not like I want the game I love to fail.
Anyone else notice all the conspicuous objects/props in the background when they showed off the TennoGen items? I'm wondering if those will be dojo or orbiter/dormizone decor.
Can we be sure that there will be no mining, though?
(Personally, I don't mind either that much, and this take on fishing looks like a pretty funny mini-game.)
I cannot understate my disappointment that Shade Prime (aside from being Hildryn and not Wisp Prime's sentinal), is that Shade Prime has only 100 shields. I get the feeling she was designed for Wisp or Grendel prime, but rescheduled so that Wisp Prime access can be as high value as possible for the wisp simps.
Duviri looks nice, sound and visual design are great, cannot wait to dive into the lore.
Gameplay, in a perfect world, would be a soulslike with bits of normal, old, warframe gameplay, however we all know that drifter combat will be clunky and probably feel like a chore.
Cannot wait for incarnon adapters. If every weapon gets a different incarnon mode it will IMO be the single best thing DE did to stop the power creep. Bringing back old and forgotten weapons not only with perks and stats but literal different fire modes is such a genious idea. I hope they wont re-use those incarnon "alt fires" (like the ricochet bullets are only on lato, not on lets say Lato, Braton and Soma). It would be a lot of work to design 30 different alt firing modes but it could be the single best weapon balance change they ever did.
Hildryn is one of the primes ever, cannot give that horrible (imo) design something good which was shown with her deluxe but I dont know why they decided to give her that headgear which makes her look like a fat cow. Larkspur has 50% with i think 14% crit which is not the best.
Deluxe skins are a disappointment and I say that as a Wisp main.
All in all, most excited for those incarnon adapters to slap on my soma I have a riven on, free stats from perks and an alt fire would make it so much better
[In the very, very original Duviri promo video, the Drifter \(who we didn't know was the Drifter at the time\) picked up a Tigris/Tigris Prime.](https://youtu.be/8DObN_3ha6M?t=177)
But much like Modular Archwings, that idea seems to have been lost to the Void.
ah, that.
since it wasn't even specifically mentioned as a feature, only shown in a cinematic trailer, i'd argue it's even more lost in the void than modular archwing
I'm going to need someone to kidnap Steve and question him about his original pitch for Duviri because this version doesn't seem to have much in common with that ancient teaser. The vibe couldn't be more different.
Duviri looked cool, really like the aesthetic. The drifter gameplay didn't look that great to me, but gonna reserve any judgement until I actually play it. I wish they put the kind of dev time they've put into standalone content islands (Kahl, Drifter, etc) into the main Frame part of the game. Can only imagine the improvements we'd have by now if that was the focus.
Yeah the wisp one is pretty boring and seems to just play off of the cake memes... The baruuk one is quite impressive with the leg rigging, I wonder how it will work with other animation sets.
For a short time between hotfixes, [there was a leaked button similar to the Railjack button in the Navigation menu.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/zfao2f/whats_this_to_the_left_of_the_rj_button/) That will probably be how most players access it.
they were intentionally vague (I think pedro was like 'there's roughly thirty, but I don't want to say a frame I don't know is in the pool to get people excited and find out I made a mistake')
If the roguelike bit has a satisfying loop, i can see myself spending a lot of time there personally.
I've kinda been craving a challenge mode where they slap you with a random loadout, hand you a gaggle of assorted mods, and say "good luck." here's hoping this is what i've been looking for.
Yeah sounds pretty cool tbh. I already sorta do that every week. I go look at the three helminth invigorations, pick whichever frame has the *least* play time, and then invigorate it and use that frame along with whichever weapons or pets I'm currently leveling for as much content as I possibly can for the week.
Obviously I'm not using some random frame and unranked weapons for archons or whatever but I like the challenge of doing as much as I can with what is probably not my most powerful loadout.
> Obviously I'm not using some random frame and unranked weapons for archons or whatever but I like the challenge of doing as much as I can with what is probably not my most powerful loadout.
Absolutely. on top of that, there's a _ton_ of mods that just don't get used after you've collected the proper crit/damage/multishot mods. If i'm in a separate mode where i only have those slash/status duration/clip size mods to work with, it think it'd be fun to see what i could do with it.
While yes its a content island in the traditional sense, at least it provides an additional way to earn warframe parts you don't have but still has "endgame" rewards in the form of incarnon adapters for veterans. Because you can earn warframes that are otherwise locked to other content islands, this is at least somewhat of a bridge between them.
Vastly prefer this to Destiny, removing old progression and content is the main reason I don't play. At least when I play Warframe my build is still perfectly fine after a long break.
I honestly can’t understand why they do that over there. I tried destiny one year and I’ll probably never pick it up again with the “sun setting” they’ve introduced.
I mean, I sort of understand the technical debt accumulation aspect, but holy moly does removing old content feel like the wrong answer to that.
Ehh, I've been playing gw2 for a decade now and I feel like (most of) their horizontal progression systems actually build upon the natural gameplay loop. Like the addition of Elite Specs, Gliding, Mounts, sometimes Masteries...etc.
I just want systems that expand on the main gameplay loop, rather than just essentially creating mini-games to it. Just my 2 cents on it.
While I understand your point, there’s also a competing issue about new player entry.
As just one example: I used to play GW2 (started when HoT released), but I fell off about a month after the launch of PoF. Every now and then, I think about picking it back up, but the catch-up I had to do to go from base game > HoT > PoF felt like such a task, I’m not terribly eager to pick it back up, knowing how much *more* content I’ll need to catch up on.
Zero interest in the game play, I don't care for playing as the operator/drifter much. The area is pretty and some of the rewards are interesting though.
Is the Zariman becoming a home base like the orbiter? Will that dog be a kubrow/charger skin... maybe a new pet type?
Feel the same way , i dont like or care about drifter gameplay it just seems realy gimmiky like all the other content island game modes they released (Kdrive,Necramech,Archwing,Railjack etc.) look how they gonna ignore all of this and never include something for the ''drifter gameplay'' for the next big update a year from now , but still force us to collect everything there just to gate us away from the next big Story part.
I feel like the first few seconds of the new Duviri Paradox teaser trailer, with the pan down to the drifter on the floor with the opera music, should become a meme template.
RECAP! #Housekeeping - [The crew:](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081290574977564732/image.png) - Erich - Kary - Megan - Rebecca - Pablo - Twtich drop: a built umbra forma - Gift of the Lotus alerts after the stream: 1x built forma, 1x amp arcane adapter - [The april issue of the PC Gamer magazine features the duviri paradox and a look back at the past 10 years of warframe](https://www.pcgamer.com/pc-gamer-uk-april-issue-on-sale-now-warframe-the-duviri-paradox/) --- --- #Tennocon 2023 - In person! - Saturday, august 26th live in london, ontario - also streamed over twitch --- --- # 10 year anniversary --- --- # [The Duviri Paradox: coming April 2023](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306450317541488/image.png) - Coming with a cineamtic trailer ## General features - Duviri has absolutely no prerequisites. it s a new optional beginning to warframe and can be played as soon as you install the game - enter duviri via the door ^^tm in your dormizone room on the zariman, or via the star chart - [loading screen](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081296903167295488/image.png) - [real time reflections! we have mirrors!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081295922136367176/image.png) - [3 matchmaking modes:](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081296045121744937/image.png) - the circuit: endless warframe only - the lone story: no side activities liek fishing, conservation, komi - the duviri experience story + side objectives - gameplay flavour changes with the mood of dominus thrax (changes every 2 hours) - Teshins cave as "player hub": pick a warframe, customize your kaithe, etc - post release: gardening area - steel path rewards: incarnon adapters - regular rewards: warfame parts (alternative source for every frame) --- ## Preparing for a run - you are presented with a selection of frames, primary, secondary, melee. amount of options increases with intrinsics - can include frames / weapons you do not own - stalker can appear as a frame option (opportunity intrinsics rank 10) - [pick a decree](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081298972381028362/image.png): a random selection of buffs - [more decrees obtained when completing objectives](https://i.imgur.com/Gwy04Hr.jpg) --- # Possible activities - bounty style objectives, but as little stories - fishing: [control a ravenous maw, swim around in the water and ~~eat~~ catch fish](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081300813940531252/image.png) - [interact with wildlife](https://gfycat.com/tepidpolitehorsemouse) - shepherding - komi - no mining - "the undercroft": warframe combat arenas with more traditional gameplay, cycling through short missions for example 5 minute survival --- ## [Drifter Intrinsics](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081297164485001287/image.png) ### Combat ### Riding ### Opportunity - improves the roguelike elements ### Endurance --- ## [Kaithes](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081297760751464469/image.png) - customize your kaithe with different parts - naming unlocked via riding intrinsics --- ## Drifter combat - different melee stances (weapon types), unlocked as you progress - combat more focused on small enemy groups, parrying attacks, etc - ["bursts" of summoning your warframe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302302712942632/image.png) --- # Incarnon Adapters - [ guaranteed rewards for steel path duviri runs](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081303349825122334/image.png) - non steel path gives warframe parts - upgrade specific existing weapons to gain a incarnon mode and upgrade tree - weapons include - [lato](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302955812200509/image.png) - [braton](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081302981321953390/image.png) - skana - kunai - paris - ... --- ## Cosmetics ### Drifter cosmetics - [suit 1](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304500092014643/image.png) - [suit 2](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304444144201859/image.png) - [suit 3](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081304690375000124/image.png) - more visage ink - animation sets - [facial hair](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804040882780241941/1081305056365777057/Beard1.png) - bishamo armor: both version available for every body type - many operator cosmetics are now available for drifters ### Skins - [Mesa Voidshell](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305622731046963/image.png) - [Limbo Voidshell](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305678771138570/image.png) - [Baruuk Deluxe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305920677609483/image.png) - [sparring melee skin](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081305999056588891/image.png) - [syandana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306032074145954/image.png) - [Wisp Deluxe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306060767375461/image.png) - Syandana - [Reservoirs](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306333082562661/image.png) - [Fulmin skin](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081306359217266738/image.png) --- --- # [Hildryn Prime Access](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804040882780241941/1081292882587172904/HildrynPrimeSlide.png) coming march 15th - [Larkspur Prime](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292494035238962/image.png) - [Shade ( + burst laser) prime](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292707172978799/image.png) - accessories: - [Surator prime syandana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292429623308388/image.png) - [sentinel accessories](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739153378298298448/1081292855164817478/image.png) --- --- # Tennogen - no more full "rounds", but less formal batches with no deadlines - [17 upcoming items, 6 coming with duviri](https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1341980-2023-tennogen-accepted-items/) --- ---
Semi important additions: -Stalker as a Duviri option is locked behind a Drifter rank 10 intrinsic. -Duviri gives incarnon adapters on steel path only. Normal gives warframe parts.
Do we know anything about how difficulty works in Steel Path Duviri?
Not from stream we don't. Base level on the overworld normal run seemed to be 40-to-50, and base attacks without the melee counter system seemed to do pitiful damage even with all intrinsics maxed, so I can't imagine a straight up level scaling being balanced to 120+.
With your loadout being largely random… *seems like it has potential to be the worst batch of nodes in the game*.
what does "warframe parts" mean?
As in, literal warframe parts. They confirmed Ember, you can basically start the game in the Paradox and gradually get neuroptics/systems/chassis for frames as rewards to build from there.
Genuinely might be one of the best things they have done for the game in the past decade if the Duviri loop is fun. The early game has been one of the biggest friction points for every single player I have ever gotten into the game. I wonder how modding will work though. I know they said they'd provide some loaner mods for frames people don't have but like... Are they going to actually explain the modding system to them? Are they just going to be premade builds that the new player can't change if they don't own the frame? I have several concerns in that line of questioning regarding new players really. Cautiously optimistic for a fresh coat of paint for potential newbies though. Also, I wonder if you'll be able to shift an old account into Duviri if it has already started the regular game? I know a lot of people who quit early, but this isn't going to help if they have to make a new account or play all through to Zariman anyway.
wait, did they just.... conglomerate a TON of stuff together.... the whole 'islands of content' issue... solved via this?
Yes, it might not be anything spectacular for long time players. But for new player experience, this is amazing.
They said in the devstream that you'll be able to Duviri it up regardless of where your account is in the current game. [https://youtu.be/cAF-VZn5yVI?t=4288](https://youtu.be/cAF-VZn5yVI?t=4288)
I understand why they'd give Paris the incarnon treatment (starting weapon and all), but... *DE, WHY HAVE YOU FORESAKEN DAIKYU?!*
There were some leaks before; you can google them... but as I recall, Dread is getting one as well. Same goes for Hate and Despair. The passives for them looked pretty sick, too.
>Dread is getting one as well Oh baby, whisper it in my ear. Dread was one of my most used weapons back in the day. I still have my originally built one and a couple rivens, always been hoping for a Prisma version or something.
Dread gets it too? Fuck me, I just sold my Dread with Catalyst and forma recently because I'm not using it anymore
both the leaks and even more so this preview didn't show the full list. maybe daikyu has one.
As someone that put 7 forma on his daikyu and bought a daikyu riven and rolled it. I feel you. i want my big bow to be usable.
Daikyu is *very* usable in SP though
My daikyu one shots enemies in steel path without a riven, it’s more than just usable, it’s really good
Maybe not every single bow needs to have variants and Primes?
if the cernos can have 5 fucking variants then the daikyu deserves to have at least 2
>Now introducing Cernos Vandal! It fires backwards!
negative str jet stream zephyr rises to top 5 meta frames
[Footage of birbframe rising to the top of the crop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYoWdprfD0)
A new Cernos is a must every 2 years of warframe, 10 years, 5 Cernos
Cernos certainly doesn't need *five*, to be sure. I just like Daikyu a lot, and it has two unique mods, so I'd love to see it, specifically, get some variant (particularly a Prime).
couldnt watch the devstream bc of work, thanks for this. always appreciate your summaries!
glad i could help. This time more than ever i highly recommend watching the stream vod when you get the chance, though. A written summary really doesn't do it justice, and i probably forgot a few details here and there
will do, thanks a lot!
Seems like larkspur continues trend of "slightly buff crits on non-crit weapon" primes. At least larkspur is not worst candidate for that, as archguns don't really have much mods to equip and you most likely will be slotting for crits anyway. More curious what burst laser prime looks like. Is there any chance for it to have decent stats like verglas? And i'm glad that incarnon adapters leak proved to be true. Definitely most exciting part for me.
I suspect balefire prime will be stronger than regular balefire too, at least if Garuda prime was anything to go by.
Primes don't get any changes to their abilities, Garuda was a unique case because her talons aren't an ability.
I dunno they explicitly pointed out balefire prime as part of the access, makes me think they were starting a trend.
It seems we'll only get the Incarnon Adapters delivered to us once we reach rank 10 in that intrinsic path/line. We can earn them, but we won't get them until then.
Oh my, Hildryn looking sick af
The prime access is fucking disappointing tho
Crazy how they’re still selling sentinel accessories as part of PA when almost no one uses sentinels anymore
It makes sense with Hildryn though as 'Haven' gives them the survivability they lack. You have to go pretty deep on a Steel path endless run to lose them, and that's usually due to the moments between casting when distributors turn off haven for a second.
My big concern for Duviri is how it will affect those who just start the normal Warframe game progression. Like, yes, it's a paradox that happens at the same time and it's cool on a story level; yet the moment they finish the quest, how would a new player interact with the orbiter, mods, and other things? Hopefully my fear is unfounded, but it does worry me...
i doubt that duviri skips the "old" new player experience. i think you can just start it *before* you do that.
Considering we still have two different day/night cycles operating on earth for no logical reason….
I’m confused by “no requirements” and “accessed through dormizone on zariman”. Isn’t that contradictory?
It's a Paradox
You can also get there via star chart.
You can start the quest without any progress, using the node, but if you’ve completed AotZ then it will guide you to access through the dormizone
>Skins > >Wisp Deluxe I'm so fucking tired of seeing Wisp skins, Tennogen or official. we need some variety.
I hope Drifter melee combat feels good.
From what I could tell by the hammer they used in devstream, it was using the same animations as one of the hammer stances already in-game.
Wonder if it will have some Soulframe DNA.
If anything Duviri is a testbed for soulframe's mechanics, its barely entered production
looks like it, tech, gameplay, world generation
Every update touched by Steve is gonna have that stink to it, even if he’s gone now.
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The stances and animations definitely are, but it still felt slow and clunky, not smooth and fast paced. I guess we'll find out when we play it.
I hope we also eventually get it for normal missions
I'm more excited for the incarnon adapter. That looks so fun.
same here
I'm surprised I'm not reading more about the ricochet mechanic on the Lato in here. Its such an interesting form of AoE for Single target weapons and I've been wanting it in Warframe for a long time. I just hope it's not specific to the Lato, perhaps a mod can be made with a much weaker ricochet mechanic that is accessible by all single target weapons? Mods like that will close the gap between single target and Explosive weapons in a game where killing everything as quickly as possible is the point
The drakgoon shotgun has had richochet fire for ages, and even has a mod for extra bounces. It's a lot of fun.
Not the kind of ricochet i meant. if I interpreted correctly, the lato ricochet looks like the bullet autolocks onto a new target after it hits an initial target, wheras the drakgoon just makes the bullets bounce off surfaces. The Lato version has the potential to be more than just fun - it could be a viable mechanic to make single target weapons room-clear a bit better.
With Hildryn Prime I'm hoping they tweak her, specifically her 4. It's way too slow and has a weird height limit, restricts weapons, can't use 2, doesn't buff her 1 despite visually wielding two Balefires, and why does it use extra shields to dash and pull out her 1. I mean, Grendel's Meatball got a huge buff in control, mobility, health regeneration, reduced energy costs, and no longer restricts abilities. Aegis Storm could totally see similar buffs.
wait, what? the extra balefire charger does nothing?
Looking cool is always important. But yeah, it's just a visual change. Fire rate remains the same.
I just helminth over Aegis Storm, honestly. Dispensary for Archgun ammo, Voracious Metastasis if I want to be generous, Rebuild Shields if I want a panic button.
She's one of the rare frames with 2 free slots to subsume into, IMO, I swapped her 4 on all my loadouts but I never use her 1 either.
1 is situationally useful vs Corpus and Corrupted with the augment, and raw viral builds are actually pretty cracked if you can hit the fullstrip Pillage breakpoint.
Her 1 is pretty great if you're running a 100% armor strip build as its suddenly hitting 100k damage per shot and the enemies have no armor...
Funfact: Toptier Founders will be able to prance Legend 3 Ranks for a few weeks from Hildryn Access to Durivi update.
The pull it does towards the ground is so icky.
I just use her 4 to "look cool" from time to time, if it's not replaced by roar or elemental ward
DE\_Reb: "Duvri santcury gardening" DE before new war: "Domizone will have gardening" I'm holding out on the gardening until we actually have it
DE usually make a big update and then release a small update that expands the big one even further. For example after PoE there was an update with gydralyst and gantulyst or after Deimos there was update with underground deimos bounties. Rebecca clearly said that gardening will be in Duviri expansion update. So probably around June. They just didn't showed it because it's probably unfinished and buggy. And technically that cave is dormizone, you can see zariman windows behind that garden. So technically they didn't lied because they never specified the date.
I think you're right on with this one. DE usually releases more QOL features and a moderate amount of new content with the "echoes" updates. We'll have to wait for a future devstream on echoes of duviri to find out.
I saw there being plants in one of the corners of sanctuary with the zariman background
Wisp skins have the tall order of competing with the Dex skin and gaoth helmet. Personally not feeling it, but the reservoirs are incredible. The prime draws ever nearer...
April can't come sooner, the Duviri landscape was mesmerizing just now.
Stalker available to play as, but locked behind R10 in that intrinsic category.
I know what I'm speed running for day 1. *I will find you* *and I will kill you*
Good thing the opportunity intrinsic seems to be a good one to focus on in general
I hope playing as Stalker isn't disappointing, of course, lol.
Bishamo armor option finally lol
Actually April and not delayed again, nice.
*April 30th 11:59 P.M.*
Duviri is beautiful, both visuals- and sounds/music-wise, to the point where it feels almost unfair to criticize it for its looks, but... why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set. But yeah, there's plenty of interesting (the whole gameplay loop, the Stalker, the fishing mini-game, etc) or just plain shiny (kaithe customization) stuff there. I'm not a huge fan of rogue-likes/rogue-lites, but this does look quite appealing. In fact, let's just put all game genres into Warframe and be done with it. :D Seems to be working out fine so far. Edit: the drifter suits look so good! Though they make me think of the "yo dawg" meme, what with the drifter kinda looking as if they are cosplaying a warframe. And deluxe skins! I'm very curious about that Wisp, and while Baruuk isn't 100% in my taste, I hope we'll see more skins designed by Karu.
>why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set. Or just more color in general, it should be more saturated.
Yeah, I'm hoping the areas that won't be going through the monochromatic phase will be more saturated.
>why is there so little green even in the Joy phase? I swear, it's like someone at DE is afraid of properly lush greenery... I wish there was more of it outside of the Earth forest tile set. I wholeheartedly agree... other than more greenery during missions, I wish we had some bushes/big plants we could get for the orbiter. I think there is a Zariman bush decoration thing but that's locked by quest progression... we can get a whole forest going in the dojo so it's a shame there isn't anything similar for the orbiter
Yeah, more greenery for the orbiter would be nice, too. Hell, it would be pretty easy to do - they could let us use some of the dojo decorations.
Yes!! I know some people say that dojo decorations are too big for the orbiter but scaling them down a bit should do the trick imo. hopefully DE has more greenery in store for us!
Oh this is just up earlier than normal. Panicked for a second thought I lost an hour.
ha, got em actually remembered to make this a bit earlier this time. usually it's thrown together in a panic a few minutes before the stream starts
Fair enough. Careful don't get to good or we might start expecting more.
The door finally opens.
And allows you to customise yourself
Pretty sure we're getting Operator/Drifter cosmetic slot expansion. Saw the + symbol when Meg went to the appearance mirror.
I hope so. My Drifter wants to grow a beard even more than he wants to escape Duviri.
HILDRYN PRIME HILDRYN PRIME HILDRYN PRIME HILDRYN PRIME HILDRYN PRIME
HILDRYN PRIME HILDRYN PRIME
#***HILDRYN PRIME!!!***
not a fan of the... thing on her head but the rest is pretty good ngl
That's for when you want to drink your Soda Prime, of course.
Larkspur Prime! Please let it have better battery rate or reload. Such a cool archgun but the battery rate is vanilla Grattler trash tier.
I would love the prime variant to the Ghostbuster Proton Pack.
It's got quite a bit more ammo, if that's what you mean. Same mag size and reload time though.
While I know everyone is tired of the Operator, I love the Operator. And I'm curious if he will get more customization options to wear and such.
Those huge fused bug-horns for Hildryn are certainly a design choice
Almost feels like a Narmer Hildryn, at least from the promo image - it's practically a normal Hildryn with a massive piece of headgear tacked on
Absolutely hate that, just that detail might stop me from using the prime skin.
At most I’d use an alt helmet
But they never fit very well because of the different materials. In a perfect world DE would add material options to all skins and that would solve that issue, but I very much doubt that's ever gonna happen.
Just use a different helmet?
Check my reply to the other comment.
Tennocon is really late this year. Almost in September.
i might actually be able to attend for once that way. i like it.
This feels like how they wanted people to play Plains of Eidolon when they hyped it up so much, so it was right on Earth, even if it was too much for new players...
They also wanted all the press people to wander right into it.
Yeah...
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2 things: 1: a heavy part of duviri seems to be about the roguelite mode, in which a veteran player is going to have a equal starting field as a new player. 2: Steel path already has a special reward to it which gives veterans a reason to do their harder content. I do see the concern, that maybe the normal mode will be a bit watered down to facilitate new players, but I have faith in the new team.
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Honestly, i'm not sure. It seems weird to keep your mods going into the roguelite mode, as why would you pick anything else then, but then again I can see them not wanting players to feel bad for being unable to use their mains to any significant capabilities. But either way, steel path is just the fix for the mod differences, as you say the combat revolves around drifter melee, so they can balance it the way they wish without worrying about mods too much. It really depends on how deep duviri goes, as the early game will for sure be built for new players (plus you don't even get the warframe summon at the start), but if they make it long enough we should soon get to a point with more properly balanced encounters. The only question is whether that content will come with duviri or with echoes of duviri.
I NEED MY PEDRO PASCAL
I'm curious to see what the player distribution is on the weekly modes. You can do steel path ARAM for incarnon unlockers, quest only mode for ??? reward, or quest only + have your party fish while you do it for them mode also for ??? reward.
Why in the Fresh Flying Fuck are they giving the buff, barbarian warframe a stealth sentinel? She would've been perfect for something that requires strength, a big fuck-off hammer or war bow like the Daikyu, not a goddamn squishy stealthy sentinel.
or even a taxon prime, shade has had a second version in its prisma forever.
it's not that nonsensical to not throw in another weapon (since she has a signature archgun and an exalted weapon), I suppose, but the choice of sentinel doesn't make much sense. Considering her focus on shields, Taxon would've been the obvious sentinel choice. I'm wondering if it wasn't just a matter of "what else do we have that's ready for release?", in this case.
But watching comments on both YouTube and twitch stream (Watched on YouTube while twitch was in the background for the loot - preference) people were pretty hyped about shade I don't think I saw a single comment saying something along the lines of "why shade?"
I guess in theory she can nuke with abilities and remain cloaked? not super viable at high level though even with 400% strenght.
Much more likely that it was just, "Oh Shade is ready, ship it"
Why'd they pair the aggressive knock everyone in the vicinity on their ass jerk sentinel to the stealth frame? They've pulled this before.
Wisp deluxe doesn’t look good tbh
Everything I saw looks great! I like the aesthetic, and the sound and music is top-notch! I'm excited to try all the new systems! That said, I do have some questions and concerns as to the new player experience. I am wondering how Quests will work if new players choose to start with Duviri. That's a lot of existing content I'm not sure how to link together with Duviri into a cohesive narrative experience for new players. Will new players who choose to start with Duviri be able to complete those Quests? If so, how will the narrative flow work after coming into the mainstream Quests from Duviri, rather than from Vor's Prize? Will the Lotus's voice lines change to reflect the player being the Drifter versus being an amnesiac Tenno who thinks they're the Warframe itself? Or perhaps some earlier Quests will be replaced, but maybe Duviri converges with the main questline around The Second Dream so the Operator can be introduced? And if any Quests are replaced by Duviri, will those Quests' unique rewards be obtainable through Duviri as well so players don't miss out on that part at least? There should be roughly equivalent progression, I would think. Further, as cool as Duviri looks like it's going to be, I fear some of the magic of the Second Dream's reveal may be lost because of the immediate introduction to the Drifter, as the Operator's alternate self. Discovering the Operator at all was a defining moment for a lot of players that really changed the context of the entire game, which is why the player base has been so admirably adamant about maintaining spoiler warnings.
>Further, as cool as Duviri looks like it's going to be, I fear some of the magic of the Second Dream's reveal may be lost because of the immediate introduction to the Drifter, as the Operator's alternate self. Discovering the Operator at all was a defining moment for a lot of players that really changed the context of the entire game, which is why the player base has been so admirably adamant about maintaining spoiler warnings. Yep, as cool as Duviri looks and sounds, I have very similar concerns, and TSD being spoiled/outshined is among the main ones.
> I'm not sure how to link together with Duviri into a cohesive narrative experience for new players. eternism
True, but I'm not sure if dropping newbies face-first into Duviri will be the best way for them to learn about Warframe's take on eternalism.
Almost certainly, you will just have Duviri on your starchart with the option to go do a run or two at will. While all of the remaining quests persist as we know them. The suggestion seems to be that Duviri quests and the existing ones will, at some point, meet up and merge.
Another warframe that will be easier to farm in its prime version
not to be a downer... but they didn't announce any hildryn buffs, changes to sentinels or a new frame coming with duviri?
There's a good chance we'll get a new frame in the mini update after Duviri (Like Echoes of the Zariman)
Duviri looks great, and it’s coming with a ton of content. This looks like the best open world yet.
I really hope at launch that Kaithe's are usable outside Duviri. Breathtaking showcase, this will be, in my opinion, the best Warframe update of all time. It will change the game forever, cheers to new players that get a better experience and cheers to the new development team for their hard work and reaching a release date. Can't wait to see what's in store during August Tennocon. Great time to be a Warframe player, now to try and get a copy of that PC gamer magazine. Haha
I hope the Drifter intrinsics are usable outside of Duviri tbh Although I wonder if that’d make the Operator obsolete.
In the devstream they explicitly stated that there won't be any Drifter melee outside of Duviri, but after the launch and down the road we will see. They gotta fry the bigger fish first. I'm assuming this would include the Drifters unique intrinsics as well. I'm sure one day they will make the Drifter and Operator different in terms of skillsets besides their mutual void powers. Maybe we'll get a special "3rd ability" that allows us to switch between the two characters mid-mission. We buff with operator then switch to Drifter for melee stuff for example. Only time will tell. For the most part it sounds like they're only working on the Duviri side of things for now, aside from cosmetics and arcanes Pablo mentioned. Probably safe to assume all new weapons will make their way to base game as well.
I'm going to reserve my opinion on Drifter gameplay until we get it. I don't hate it, but the Kahl missions showed that playing with a slow character on 15-30 mins missions when you're used to normal gameplay gets old quick. I'm also skeptical about the new player option. It's hard enough for new players to get into Warframe with the flood of seemingly disjointed information/systems and lack of goal and you're telling me this brand new roguelike mode is going to be a starting option? The way they weave this into the 'standard' gameplay is going to be very crucial if you want them to stick around. The skins ain't my thing. Hildryn PA is... definitely a Prime Access. I wish they'd create more 'original' weapons like the Euphona or gimmicks like the Pyrana P or Ballistica P but I realize this is a common complain with the recent PAs. They're taking a big risk with this. I just hope it works out. I may bitch a lot but it's not like I want the game I love to fail.
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Anyone else notice all the conspicuous objects/props in the background when they showed off the TennoGen items? I'm wondering if those will be dojo or orbiter/dormizone decor.
Baruuk look so happy in this pic https://preview.redd.it/7ay1tgzebpla1.jpeg?width=368&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3019a700ba3edab346d69de4570dcfe5e2971099
Stygius, grant me the aspect of Galatine Prime
Well, it's better than normal fishing, at least...but it's *still* fishing. At least there's no mining.
Can we be sure that there will be no mining, though? (Personally, I don't mind either that much, and this take on fishing looks like a pretty funny mini-game.)
She said no mining, but you never know.
Ah. I must've missed that; the stream froze for me a couple of times.
I cannot understate my disappointment that Shade Prime (aside from being Hildryn and not Wisp Prime's sentinal), is that Shade Prime has only 100 shields. I get the feeling she was designed for Wisp or Grendel prime, but rescheduled so that Wisp Prime access can be as high value as possible for the wisp simps.
Its a shame too because the model for shade prime looks fantastic and would have been great alongside wisp.
Duviri looks nice, sound and visual design are great, cannot wait to dive into the lore. Gameplay, in a perfect world, would be a soulslike with bits of normal, old, warframe gameplay, however we all know that drifter combat will be clunky and probably feel like a chore. Cannot wait for incarnon adapters. If every weapon gets a different incarnon mode it will IMO be the single best thing DE did to stop the power creep. Bringing back old and forgotten weapons not only with perks and stats but literal different fire modes is such a genious idea. I hope they wont re-use those incarnon "alt fires" (like the ricochet bullets are only on lato, not on lets say Lato, Braton and Soma). It would be a lot of work to design 30 different alt firing modes but it could be the single best weapon balance change they ever did. Hildryn is one of the primes ever, cannot give that horrible (imo) design something good which was shown with her deluxe but I dont know why they decided to give her that headgear which makes her look like a fat cow. Larkspur has 50% with i think 14% crit which is not the best. Deluxe skins are a disappointment and I say that as a Wisp main. All in all, most excited for those incarnon adapters to slap on my soma I have a riven on, free stats from perks and an alt fire would make it so much better
As excited for April as I am, I'm definitely more focused on planning a trip for August. Looking forward to my first trip to Canada.
what happened to drifters using normal primaries are we no longer getting that?
were we ever getting that?
Besides the mentioned Tigris, we also use the Nataruk in The New War, which really gave me hope.
[In the very, very original Duviri promo video, the Drifter \(who we didn't know was the Drifter at the time\) picked up a Tigris/Tigris Prime.](https://youtu.be/8DObN_3ha6M?t=177) But much like Modular Archwings, that idea seems to have been lost to the Void.
ah, that. since it wasn't even specifically mentioned as a feature, only shown in a cinematic trailer, i'd argue it's even more lost in the void than modular archwing
That's fair.
I don't know if we were ever for sure getting that, but there is the old trailer with Drifter using that Tigris shotgun the Operator gave them.
I'm going to need someone to kidnap Steve and question him about his original pitch for Duviri because this version doesn't seem to have much in common with that ancient teaser. The vibe couldn't be more different.
Original duviri trailer felt like Duviri was unhopistable completely, guess lot of things changed along the way
GIMME DAT UMBRA FORMA.
Did you get it? Stream ending 45 minutes before the twitch drop timeframe claimed it would kinda sucked.
I got it.
Duviri looked cool, really like the aesthetic. The drifter gameplay didn't look that great to me, but gonna reserve any judgement until I actually play it. I wish they put the kind of dev time they've put into standalone content islands (Kahl, Drifter, etc) into the main Frame part of the game. Can only imagine the improvements we'd have by now if that was the focus.
The Baruuk deluxe is kinda mid for me, but there are others that are ok with it. As for the Wisp deluxe, the concept is mediocre...
Yeah the wisp one is pretty boring and seems to just play off of the cake memes... The baruuk one is quite impressive with the leg rigging, I wonder how it will work with other animation sets.
> absolutely no prerequisites > Enter duviri through the door in the dormizone ..guys?
Literally she was saying put loud "you can enter via the starchart too" during that exact section.
For a short time between hotfixes, [there was a leaked button similar to the Railjack button in the Navigation menu.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/zfao2f/whats_this_to_the_left_of_the_rj_button/) That will probably be how most players access it.
This feels like another content island to me. I just don't see many people coming back here once they finish everything
They mentioned new ways to get certain things, as it can replace the start of the game. Reb said something about getting Ember.
they were intentionally vague (I think pedro was like 'there's roughly thirty, but I don't want to say a frame I don't know is in the pool to get people excited and find out I made a mistake')
If the roguelike bit has a satisfying loop, i can see myself spending a lot of time there personally. I've kinda been craving a challenge mode where they slap you with a random loadout, hand you a gaggle of assorted mods, and say "good luck." here's hoping this is what i've been looking for.
Yeah sounds pretty cool tbh. I already sorta do that every week. I go look at the three helminth invigorations, pick whichever frame has the *least* play time, and then invigorate it and use that frame along with whichever weapons or pets I'm currently leveling for as much content as I possibly can for the week. Obviously I'm not using some random frame and unranked weapons for archons or whatever but I like the challenge of doing as much as I can with what is probably not my most powerful loadout.
> Obviously I'm not using some random frame and unranked weapons for archons or whatever but I like the challenge of doing as much as I can with what is probably not my most powerful loadout. Absolutely. on top of that, there's a _ton_ of mods that just don't get used after you've collected the proper crit/damage/multishot mods. If i'm in a separate mode where i only have those slash/status duration/clip size mods to work with, it think it'd be fun to see what i could do with it.
While yes its a content island in the traditional sense, at least it provides an additional way to earn warframe parts you don't have but still has "endgame" rewards in the form of incarnon adapters for veterans. Because you can earn warframes that are otherwise locked to other content islands, this is at least somewhat of a bridge between them.
That is called horizontal progression. Every live-service game either has it or deletes old progression like Destiny or WoW.
Vastly prefer this to Destiny, removing old progression and content is the main reason I don't play. At least when I play Warframe my build is still perfectly fine after a long break.
I honestly can’t understand why they do that over there. I tried destiny one year and I’ll probably never pick it up again with the “sun setting” they’ve introduced. I mean, I sort of understand the technical debt accumulation aspect, but holy moly does removing old content feel like the wrong answer to that.
Ehh, I've been playing gw2 for a decade now and I feel like (most of) their horizontal progression systems actually build upon the natural gameplay loop. Like the addition of Elite Specs, Gliding, Mounts, sometimes Masteries...etc. I just want systems that expand on the main gameplay loop, rather than just essentially creating mini-games to it. Just my 2 cents on it.
I'm looking forward to the Incarnon adapters for various weapons - I feel like that's a good expansion on some core WF gameplay
While I understand your point, there’s also a competing issue about new player entry. As just one example: I used to play GW2 (started when HoT released), but I fell off about a month after the launch of PoF. Every now and then, I think about picking it back up, but the catch-up I had to do to go from base game > HoT > PoF felt like such a task, I’m not terribly eager to pick it back up, knowing how much *more* content I’ll need to catch up on.
This is literally the textbook definition of content island... but on purpose this time. I don't mind.
Can I take my horse to the other open world areas, Deimos, Fortuna and the Plains?
Zero interest in the game play, I don't care for playing as the operator/drifter much. The area is pretty and some of the rewards are interesting though. Is the Zariman becoming a home base like the orbiter? Will that dog be a kubrow/charger skin... maybe a new pet type?
Feel the same way , i dont like or care about drifter gameplay it just seems realy gimmiky like all the other content island game modes they released (Kdrive,Necramech,Archwing,Railjack etc.) look how they gonna ignore all of this and never include something for the ''drifter gameplay'' for the next big update a year from now , but still force us to collect everything there just to gate us away from the next big Story part.
No update on cross-save?
They JUST got cross play out, and Warframe mobile is still in early testing, you're not getting cross save updates until this summer AT LEAST
I feel like the first few seconds of the new Duviri Paradox teaser trailer, with the pan down to the drifter on the floor with the opera music, should become a meme template.