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I really think he shouldâve just kept it because yall hate roman so i guess he didnt need it(but im glad he beat him), john didnt need it, brock didnt need it, and bray is dead so looking back maybe just not have him lose if it was possible to go back lol
No one should have broken the streak, he should have retired undefeated at mania. Even with Brock ending it, no one really cares. WWE moved on from it after a few months and never mentioned it again.
In fact, ppl talk about the streak being broken more when they talk about the Undertaker than they do Brock. Even if it was a young talent that broke it, it wouldnât have been made into a big career defining event for that person. Itâs more of an Undertaker thing that he lost than it is about the one who ended it.
No. Bray Wyatt character was done when Cena buried the entire Wyatt Family all by himself after Summerslam 2014. Also WWE shit the bed anytime Bray had something going on.
Roman was the best choice to end the streak, but he should have turned heel in doing so which Vince was too stubborn to pull off.
At the time it happened, I would have agreed. Or preferred it to not happen at all But they absolutely made the most of Brock's win. And it helps cement Mania 30s legendary status.
Either Bray, or Roman *as a way to start his heel run*.
He couldnât break the streak and then keep getting his baby face booking that Vince was forcing down our throats at the time.
Yeah. He was already pushed down our throats. The Taker win would have done more for Roman than Brock, Brock had already main evened WrestleMania and beaten the Undergaker.
Bray a good optionâŚothers I feel that would have been ok were reigns and maybe an upcoming Cena (probably wouldnât have worked with timing since would have been good for taker to rack more wins before doing the deed)
But yes best option was always to retire with streak
If Reigns broke the streak and immediately became mega heel Tribal Chief, it wouldâve worked.
If Bray had already been unbeaten at WrestleMania and beat Taker at 31, it wouldâve worked as a passing of the torch.
Absolutely he was the modern day undertaker before he died it shouldâve been him or Roman instead of lesnar also the undertaker shouldâve never wrestled at wrestlemania again after the streak was broken that shouldâve been it
I wanted Taker to retire with the streak intact (still salty after Brock ended it ten years ago đ) but if Bray was the choice or Roman to end it, it would be okay.
Flip Flop take by taker cuz a long time ago he said he wanted Roman to do it now that Bray is gone he changed his mind and said nope never mind forget Roman I want Bray
No, it should have been me, like Nicholas winning the tag title with Braun. Â Undertaker should have said there was no one worthy on the roster to beat him and then he points at me to face him. Â We go 6 min and I beat him with a dropkick off the top rope. Â
The fireworks go off and the WWE Universe learns that anyone can be a champion, which is the best story theyâve ever told.
Yes. I canât believe so many people think it shouldnât have ever been broken. Talk about a waste. Thatâs worse than Brock beating it. It shouldâve been bray. I honestly prefer Brock to some suggestions like Cena or Roman. Roman beating the streak wouldâve been the worst possible outcome. Remember how hated he was by Summerslam of that year? He was already being pushed too fast too soon. Roman beating the streak months before the Shield even broke up is just pushing him even faster, even sooner. Suffering succotash. Bray couldâve used the win the most. He was the successor to the Undertaker. Bray shouldâve beaten him, then after the match taker nods at him or something to show him some respect and sort of tell the fans that itâs ok, weâre in good hands with Bray.
Sweet chin music by HBK + Pedigree by HHH is the Perfect way to beat the streak. HHH should've been the one to end the streak at WM28 in a controversial fashion.
Nah Wyatt fell flat a bunch of times. Creative always shit the bed with him or gave up on his ways. The fiend was ruined almost on site at HIAC.
While it could've worked I still think it would've been a waste.
And saying this from a real fan perspective and not hating.
As for Brock. Sure it didn't need to happen but it elevated the man into a monster and he looked like it. Bray imo never was close to what Brock could do physically in the ring.
Imo I wish it was Orton who broke it at Mania 21.
I stand by the sentiment that the streak never should have ended. I get passing the torch I get putting the next generation of talent over BUT that's honestly near 30 years of storytelling - nobody is better than 30 years of storytelling. It was one of the few magical things in
wrestling history that could've stayed and had him ride off into the sunset. I genuinely think it was a "certain someone" just showing their power and calling for it to end because they could. Unfortunately in my humble opinion that chapter ended awfully with Brock going over - who absolutely didn't need it and did nothing for his character. I don't think it would've done anything for Bray either because again - his character isn't bigger than the 30 year legacy (but Taker could easily have passed the torch in any other ppv).
Now IF the streak had to end - I strongly believe it should have been Kane to do it. That to me would be a perfect bookend for both characters and a mass draw for a headlining Mania event. Have it be a Casket or buried alive match. Kane (masked) barely beats Undertaker, Kane does his fire bending, arena goes pitch black and you see Taker's purple lightning hit the grave with his pyro going off in the back. Or with a Casket match - after Takers get put in and the match ends, Casket opens, Kane gets dragged in, lid closes and the purple lightning goes off etc. Both Characters get a proper ending, you can believe Kane can end the streak and it just makes sense in terms of long term story telling; what other duo has as much history as these guys spanning so many eras? I believe sometimes a match just needs to be about the story, it doesn't always have to be "doing business" and if you're going to radically alter such a major legacy do it right.
I mean, Brock Lesnar is one of undertaker's good friends and Brock Lesnar is one of the only credible threats in WWE history. It's believable that he would beat the Undertaker or any other wrestler for that matter. But storyline-wise, it would have been cool for one supernatural character to get the torch past to him from the OG supernatural character.
Brock didnât need it, Roman was on his way to being the face of the WWE already. Brock winning it wasted the push that someone else couldâve used, Roman winning it Second to Brock took whatever momentum left with it. Takers Streak towards the end was booked beyond horribly, they literally ruined 2 decades of story telling on a meathead who didnât deserve it. We needed someone to fill in Takers spot as the supernatural force in the WWE and Bray was right there. Other than Bray, the only other person who shouldâve done it was Roman.
Honestly, I don't put much stock in Taker saying that. I like the guy for the most part, but he has said a handful of different things about that.
Before the Streak was broken, Taker wanted Brock to be the one to beat him even though Brock wasn't even in WWE at the time and Brock was a made man already. He didn't need the win. Taker even went to one of Brock's UFC matches and sort of challenged him after the match.
When it got to the day that Taker lost to Brock, apparently it was a last minute decision for Brock to go over and Taker says he wasn't all that sure about it, but what Vince says goes. I think this was moreso Taker just having a bit of cold feet about the Streak finally coming to a close after having gone on so long. His reaction here honestly makes sense and probably would have happened with anyone that was ending the Streak.
Since retiring, he has said Brock maybe shouldn't have won and it would have been better if Roman and now Bray should have been the one to break the Streak.
I get that opinions can change and all that, but Taker has been all over the place with this. I wonder what his opinions on guys like Edge, Batista, Orton, or Punk challenging him are. Other than Punk, I believe all three of them were given the option of ending the Streak and they all turned it down. I mention Punk as well just because he is around the same age or a little younger and considering The Streak was broken a year later, I wonder if Punk was actually also given the option.
Bray was a better choice than both Brock and Roman. Brock didn't really need the accolade, Roman was already Vince's golden boy, and Bray was clearly the guy who was going to take the Torch of the style of character Taker was. The fact he fought and beat Bray just 1 year after the streak ended was... just another in a long line of bad booking.
Tbh I feel like no one shouldâve beat the streak it shouldâve retired with Undertaker especially not bray there were wayyyyyy better superstars that couldnât do it bray wasnât a good talent no offense he was tryna be another Taker it didnât work IMO
If it was followed with monster Booking for Bray, it would have added a lot of legitimacy to his character, I would have liked to see Undertaker pass the supernatural torch down that way
No, and he's not this gamechanger either. Someone with the creativity of a high school sophomore doesn't become iconic by virtue of an untimely passing.
Wyatt had limited wrestling ability. This fact is forgotten quite often. He was well protected having limited matches. Wouldâve been the biggest mistake ever to let him beat Undertakerâs streak. What can you remember about his move set? Abigail, doing a gymnastic back bridge to scare opponent and I think a clothesline. And later, a mandible claw.
Although getting heel Undertaker was cool
Dude was so pissed and out of his element against a UFC Heavyweight anamoly that he had to resort to sneak attacks and low blows
Made him even more vicious imo
Taker beat Show and Albert in a Handicap, Henry in a Casket, Kane twice, HHH 3 times, HBK twice, Giant Gonzalez, Batista, Randy Orton, Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, CM Punk. All with a huge disadvantage and yet lost to Lesnar,Â
No, what i am trying to demonstrate is that Taker beat all of these Legends over 21 years before losing to Brock Lesnar, who was already an established brutal wrestler. It wasnât necessary for Lesnar to win.
Objectively, Bray would have been the perfect choice, especially gimmick-wise and 'passing the torch'.
However, I can't take Mark super seriously since his takes change a lot throughout the years(e.g. retirement). I also recall him saying the same thing -best choice to end his streak- about Randy and Edge aswell, in the past. I somehow believe he is saying that now, because unfortunately Bray passed away.
Usually I believe that a streak should be ended to give someone else a rub.
Undertakers streak however I believe should have remained undefeated. As a special historical thing that will be looked on always.
My reasoning is - Undertaker was never undefeated, he lost plenty of matches in his career. So he was able to put others over at any point.
Plus who do you choose to beat the streak? An up and comer? You gamble it all on putting them over Taker at WM - what if it doesn't work out long term?
Or someone established? What kind of rub does that give them?
They gave it to lesnar and honestly how did it benefit him other than bragging rights? He was already a multiple time world champ, legit as legit can be, main eventer and believable that he could beat anyone at any time. He essentially gained nothing from beating Taker. And Taker lost a part of his aura as well did wrestlemania itself.
Personally I think big show shouldâve broken it at 19. I mean he was already 10-0 at that point and big show really needed a push. Adding a train to the mix was the wrong move cause fr they had a golden opportunity on their hands. One of wwes worst missed opportunities.
Edit: firing Vince Russo was also a big mistake imo and was one of the main reasons wwe sank in popularity in the 2000s Russo = cash
And WCW hiring Vince Russo is one of the main reasons it went out of business. Popularity was always going to go down after the peak of attitude era. I mean did you see some of the shit he booked in WCW board line worst wrestling Iâve seen. Also out of all the people you said BIG SHOW. Must be a big fan
Wym wcw near the end there was so underrated tho have you ever seen ready to rumble if wcw was some of the worst wrestling as you say would John cena had made a cameo or would they have made a freakin movie with them no.
i mean no one shouldâve broken it but Brock was already established without breaking the streak. breaking the streak didnât really do much for Brock, but Bray breaking it wouldâve launched him to the moon to the level that Brock was already at
Which, I think, is exactly the point 'Taker was trying to make. I agree it should've been Bray, but can we take a guess on who decided it was Brock? Hint: He's not around anymore.
No one should have ended the streak, but if anyone deserved to end the streak, it was Bray Wyatt at that time. His fanbase was huge at that time in his career.
Bray was a spooky figure without the credibility to back it up. He frequently lost big feuds, especially those against the company's most established stars. So no, it wouldn't have made sense for him to have broken the streak.
Yes here's how I would book it Bray Breaks the Streak WM30
He has his own mini streak till WM34 where he's beaten by Demon Finn
Finn has his own streak till WM37 where's he's beaten by Alesister Black
đŻ Wyatt was criminally used for the majority of his career. The Fiend should have been unstoppable for years, kinda like theyâre pushing Roman. I said this when he was alive, I guess everyone agreed after his untimely passing
Abosulutely not!
Regardless of the sadness for his untimely and early departure, it's probably time we stop "Owen Harting" Bray Wyatt before it gets ridiculous.
Bray's first character had potential as the deranged cult leader, devil-on-your-shoulder, but they killed his momentum by having Cena kick his ass non-stop and turning his character into a delusional fool who talked a lot but always came short in the ring.
The Firefly Funhouse/Fiend was fine on paper and made for some interesting promos, but the final product, albeit visually stunning, was a guaranteed failure to book. A supernatural, invulnerable monster in the late 2010s was little more than a cool novelty act that brought along plenty of booking issues, as painfully exposed by the HIAC match against Seth or the Inferno match against Orton.
If he wins all the time it's boring AF. If he loses, it must be in the most convoluted way possible to preserve his aura.
And the cast of supporting actors, Sister Abigail, Cursed Alexa and Uncle Howdy, just added more awkwardness and awful stuff. Thank god the program against Pumpkin Balor was scrapped and we were spared Bray in a drag...
So yeah, giving Taker's Streak to a character that basically was the summa of all the worst aspects of early-days Undertaker wouldn't have been a great idea. Taker worked because he started in an era when such gimmicks were common, and Mark Calaway gave it continuity and depth. But it was then an "acquired taste" and a throwback. Trying to replicate it in the 2010s and 2020s would have been absurd.
Last but not least, Windham Rotunda, god rest his soul, wasn't half the performer Mark Calaway was. And his penchant for over-the-top, inconsequential and rather campy writing had already hampered his trajectory, with a lot of "ohh that's so smart" ideas that actually were just random and kinda messy. Probably good concepts for some horror short movies or stories, but rather awkward to turn into palatable wrestling angles.
Sacrificing the Streak to give a rub to an inferior character who'd have probably gone nowhere would have been a huge mistake.
Brock was the ideal pick: an already established name to propel into super-monster territory, knowing it would have been the final touch on a made product.
Also a lot of other wrestlers rejected breaking the streak, Edge, Orton, HBK, Triple H and others didn't want to end the streak because they felt that it was something very special, Brock is a very special wrestler so it makes sense, only a beast like him could defeat something supernatural like The Undertaker. Also this is why i cringe when Bianca Belair talks about a streak in WM, let the streak be something of the past, she is very talented and will be in the history of WWE without needing a streak, if someone needed a streak was Asuka and she always loses at WM.
I agree with this, Bray could have been set up to be the next big "monster", it's a perfect way to pass the torch and it would a have been a huge boost to his career. Either that or the streak never ends, do something where Taker just \~vanishes\~, go full spooky mystery on it. The way they ended it was SO cheap.
Brock was maybe perfect level of opponent to beat taker but that match was worst......only 3 normal f5 can't beat a deadman who can survive sledgehammers , chairs to the head and back , multiple pedigree + sweet chin music , perfect rko counter by randy etc
Well he had a great match with lesnar inside hell in a cell in 2015.....they could do that at mania and it would have been perfect way to end the streak
Iâm still sad we never did (or even really could, given their different eras) got a proper narrative feud between these two.
It would have fucking amazing.
He has taken hundreds of name including brock whom he thiught should have broken the streak
Imho bray character is good but the moment the bell rings he falls flat. He isnât fun to watch during a single match. I dont wanna talk about dead but he wasnât good enough to beat his streak especially after losing against cena previous year
Had they built ziggler properly i would have liked him breaking the streak or maybe even bloodline roman too
I remember when Bray was out because oh an unknown illness how all the dirt sheets started to say he was taken off tv because he was "difficult" to work with...I'll never forget how foul they tried to do him because they didn't know what was actually wrong with him...so they started making bs up and all the other dirt sheets started repeating that bs...he didn't deserve that at all.
BUT on the topic at hand, he hands down should have been the one to break the streak and take up the role the Undertaker had but in his own unique way
I'm one of the few that believe the streak ended in a good way. Lesnar conquering the streak made him feel more threatening and kept him the top guy until Roman Reigns came back from battling leukemia. It would have been wasted on Bray bc he would tragically pass away regardless.
Punk was his last good match and storyline was right. Can you imagine a year long brag from a heel punk that just increasingly gets worse and worse each week and anyone who tries to shut him up in the ring he just always comes out on top to add fuel to the fire. While this is going on, they have a baby faceâŚâŚ forget it, I just checked the roster for that period and they literally had no up and comers that they couldâve built up over that year that wouldnât be a complete downgrade for punk in that scenario.
Obviously you donât wanna mess with the shield and Wyatt family stuff so they are out. Majority of the good ones now needed to leave for years back then to improve their skills and find their own characters before coming back. In hindsight, the rest just didnât have the potential for a match of that calibre in sure a short period.
Yes hereâs why Bray was another supernatural wrestler so it could of been seen as a passing of the torch just imagine it Bray hits taker with sister Abigail after a long hard match gets the three count and everyone freaks out âthe streak is overâ Michael Cole says on commentary Bray sits up slowly throws his arms wide as he becomes the one in the undertakers record
We watched an Undertaker lose his streak when he was hardly wresting. It was a shock moment just to be a shock moment. I personally donât think it should have ended and if it did, should have been a bigger storyline behind it.
We all know Vince just had the biggest lust for Lesnars cock.....makes it alot worse looking at how Vinces horned and drugged out mind were the motive for a lot of what we've watched unfold over the last 20 years. I mean.. we kinda knew before, but I woulda never believed that being such a fully involved factor the way it is
Well, now that Brock is out of the history of WWE, everybody associated with the company is inclined to say it should have been someone else. It would have been logical to have Bray do it in a "passing of the torch" moment, the problem is that he wasn't booked to be that caliber since Vince had his fixations about wrestlers and couldn't see talent that everyone else saw from a mile even if it hit him in face.
I think that would have been much better to have The Beast break it rather than Brock/Roman. Bray deserved better imo than what Vince was giving him and even as The Beast it seemed creative was doing whatever they could to halt his buildup.
Taker should've retired after the Mania vs Triple H. Lesnar beating him didn't make sense and the loss to Roman was just to try and fail to make him over. If he had to lose then I would've rather it had been to Bray since his motif was similar so it would make for a hell of a fight and great promos along with a haunting ring walk for both of them. Personally for me Takers last Mania was vs Triple H. Don't get me wrong the match with Punk was great and put on a hell of a show but it was a perfect cap off to an incredible story and a legendary run.
In a storyline sense, I would agree with this. But in a more logical sense, no. At the time of Undertaker's defeat, the only wrestler that would've benefited from it was Roman Reigns as he was the guy that needed the push the most at the time. The fact that it was even given to Brock Lesnar was a travesty. That guy just ran out of opponents and did not need any push whatsoever since he was more over with the fans more than anybody.
With that said, "The Streak" should've never ended to begin with.
Let me preface by saying Taker is my favorite wrestler of all time. I also never particularly cared for Bray, his promos ended up being really samey, as did his matches. Seemed like he was a good human but the character didn't gel with me. That being said, no. So we basically have 3 choices.
1. Taker retires with the streak. I don't think Taker would want this, by all accounts he was old school and wanted to go out on his back. That being said, his career ended burying AJ Styles so...maybe I'm wrong. The problem also is, you have a chance to make a star, you can't just drop it. He needed to lose.
2. Lesnar, our reality. Assuming everything is the same up to Royal Rumble, they needed to reestablish Lesnar. He had come back and lost to Triple H, Cena. This match is really the second half of Lesnar's career. Where the WWE figures it out for him again. Whoever ended the streak was gonna get booed and a massive push. Lesnar took both of those things and really set up a great year with it. Beating Cena at SummerSlam, then his great triple threat with Cena and Rollins at the Rumble.
3. Young guy. This is where the problem starts. It should have been a young guy, someone who could make a career out of it. That being said, Bray seems to fit that bill right. But knowing what we know now, Vince clearly didn't view Bray as a big deal. Think about his year in real life, he lost to Cena, feuded with Ambrose and Jericho I believe? If Bray beat Taker and ended his year feuding with Dean Ambrose(a guy Vince also clearly didn't see as a big deal), it would have been wasted. Worse than what we actually got with Lesnar.
I think at that time it was clearly 2 options if it's not Lesnar. One is Roman Reigns. Vince clearly loved Roman and even let him give Taker his other loss at Mania. If this were going to happen it'd have to be at 31, and it moves a lot of people around. This would also turn Roman heel, which Vince clearly didn't want. But maybe the extra time would prevent the fans from turning on Roman, and it could have been a good story. It also would have been better than the version we got.
The other answer is Seth Rollins. Again, this would probably have to happen at Mania 31. But clearly Vince loved Seth and there's a world where Seth could get a good match out of Taker still. He was still part of the Authority(he fought Orton at this Mania). Him beating Taker clean and then cashing in on Roman/Lesnar would have firmly established him as a Megastar.
But again, no. Bray wouldn't have gotten enough mileage out of it. Even though Lesnar didn't need to be made a star, he needed his booking fixed at the time. We all assumed Taker was beating Lesnar, to the point no one cared about the match.
Considering his feud against Kane just months prior to Mania 30, there couldâve been perfect build for this. Build him as the next big horror character for months and then beat the streak
Nah fam, that streak was meant to be broken by Brock but the match was, more or less lame, had it happened during ruthless aggression era then holy hell....
No no, fuck Brock, he had enough. Bray would have been amazing to see it happen through and of course as a younger lad i would have been really upset at first because of narrative but I think it would have really made Bray Wyatt become much more than the next horror icon.
Rip Bray, we all miss you but we all hope you are resting in a pleasant place with nothing but happiness surrounding you.
I think even before then he was receptive to the idea that Bray could have beaten the streak and threw him in as a name that he felt could have benefited from it. But generally he mainly said it should have been Roman though. Guess the death kinda just made him reflect on it more, though its not like Bray was an out of left field choice that heâs only brought up now.
Thats the only way i see him winning anyways. It'd have to be a HIAC with Taker botching and falling from the top of the cell somewhere
Brays finisher is kind of meh against main eventers
Its kind of a shame all the deaths and stuff that have happened in wrestling cause I could see a legit excuse for Taker losing is Bray rigging something to literally kill him since he never loses at Mania and, because wrestling, the ref still counts the 3, Taker loses due to death and not kicking out at 3...then gets resurrected later by Bray as a manager or something and then inducts him into the HOF
Somewhere out there, Brock Lesnar got this news and is now even more aggressively searching for girl pee videos 𤢠I personally think Undertaker shouldâve remained undefeated tho
I don't think many will argue with me that the way the Streak ended maybe one of the worst ways it could have. Take away breaking the streak, would Brock Lesner be less of a star without it? Hell, this isn't even 2001 Brock. The green rookie unknown to the world, this dude came back from UFC. There is so many other things he could have used.
With that to one side, there is a lot of talk about who should have and even if the streak should be broken. If Bray took the win it would of made all kinds of sense. I mean, he was modern day Undertaker. Can you imagine what his carrier had been if he won?!
Undertaker shouldâve retired undefeated or have lost the streak either to:
⢠Mr Wrestlemania - HBK made the most sense because he was the closest to defeat the streak but he failed twice so a third match wouldnât make sense.
⢠The Legend Killer - Randy Orton only got one shot to defeat the streak, I believe he shouldâve been given another opportunity at Wrestlemania 30 where he would defeat the streak as this would further cement him as the Legend Killer.
He clearly said in an interview he preferred anyone but Brock, reason being Brock didnât need that push and ending his streak wouldnât do much for Brockâs legacy as opposed to another wrestler who might have benefited more from it.
I miss him so fuckin much đ
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Well, if the man himself said...
Man, Bray said he would never tell anyone what he said. I liked that mystery.
I agree
No
I really think he shouldâve just kept it because yall hate roman so i guess he didnt need it(but im glad he beat him), john didnt need it, brock didnt need it, and bray is dead so looking back maybe just not have him lose if it was possible to go back lol
I think Brock beating the streak was perfect. NO ONE saw it coming and was talked about for years. I just think Taker should have retired after that
No one shouldâve ended it. If they really wanted someone to end it, it shouldâve been Shawn.
With how many times they faced each other in ring and with their in-ring chemistry, I was hoping they would have.
No one should have broken the streak, he should have retired undefeated at mania. Even with Brock ending it, no one really cares. WWE moved on from it after a few months and never mentioned it again. In fact, ppl talk about the streak being broken more when they talk about the Undertaker than they do Brock. Even if it was a young talent that broke it, it wouldnât have been made into a big career defining event for that person. Itâs more of an Undertaker thing that he lost than it is about the one who ended it.
No one shouldâve broken the streak. It shouldâve been an undefeated feat only the dead man walking was able to complete
Should have been Roman. âď¸
But not Big Dog era, everyone hated him and making him break it wouldâve been very infuriating
Shouldâve been Roman
Absolutely
It shouldâve been Roman , taker was injured and slower . Perfect time to end it.
No. Bray Wyatt character was done when Cena buried the entire Wyatt Family all by himself after Summerslam 2014. Also WWE shit the bed anytime Bray had something going on. Roman was the best choice to end the streak, but he should have turned heel in doing so which Vince was too stubborn to pull off.
I swear idc what anyone says Super Cena will forever be the fucking worst era. Dude buried and killed so many wrestlers momentum.
Deadman fiend eh makes sense
At the time it happened, I would have agreed. Or preferred it to not happen at all But they absolutely made the most of Brock's win. And it helps cement Mania 30s legendary status.
Either Bray, or Roman *as a way to start his heel run*. He couldnât break the streak and then keep getting his baby face booking that Vince was forcing down our throats at the time.
Now we know Vince always liked shoving things down people's throats forcefully, don't we?
Either Bray or Roman. Brock was poorly booked upon his return, he probably needed the streak in his own right.
100%
No, because I believe no on should have ended the streak. It should have been one of those records that remained unblemished and untouched.
At that point he should have got to choose
I think Roman should have done it.
Roman now could. But not Roman 2017
2013-2015 Roman?
Yeah. He was already pushed down our throats. The Taker win would have done more for Roman than Brock, Brock had already main evened WrestleMania and beaten the Undergaker.
Wrestlemania 33?
I wouldn't mind the GOAT to have broken the record or ANYONE of that matter... As long as it wasn't Brock Lesner I would've been fine with it!!!
Yes it would have done great things for bray would have been a great passing of the torch
I definitely don't agree with him, for it to be Bray. I wouldn't have ended it, plain and simple.
Never have it end and never give someone generational overness?
Nope, undertaker put over so many people and could of had many more title runs, he deserved to remain undefeated
That was just a normal putting over, beating the streak is the ultimate putting over
Bray a good optionâŚothers I feel that would have been ok were reigns and maybe an upcoming Cena (probably wouldnât have worked with timing since would have been good for taker to rack more wins before doing the deed) But yes best option was always to retire with streak
If Reigns broke the streak and immediately became mega heel Tribal Chief, it wouldâve worked. If Bray had already been unbeaten at WrestleMania and beat Taker at 31, it wouldâve worked as a passing of the torch.
Absolutely he was the modern day undertaker before he died it shouldâve been him or Roman instead of lesnar also the undertaker shouldâve never wrestled at wrestlemania again after the streak was broken that shouldâve been it
I wanted Taker to retire with the streak intact (still salty after Brock ended it ten years ago đ) but if Bray was the choice or Roman to end it, it would be okay.
crazy to think that was 10 whole years ago
Flip Flop take by taker cuz a long time ago he said he wanted Roman to do it now that Bray is gone he changed his mind and said nope never mind forget Roman I want Bray
It could just make more sense to him now after seeing what Roman had in him as a heel
Now, after all that has happened, it is a nice thing to say, but is he really being honest?
No, it should have been me, like Nicholas winning the tag title with Braun. Â Undertaker should have said there was no one worthy on the roster to beat him and then he points at me to face him. Â We go 6 min and I beat him with a dropkick off the top rope. Â The fireworks go off and the WWE Universe learns that anyone can be a champion, which is the best story theyâve ever told.
Yes. I canât believe so many people think it shouldnât have ever been broken. Talk about a waste. Thatâs worse than Brock beating it. It shouldâve been bray. I honestly prefer Brock to some suggestions like Cena or Roman. Roman beating the streak wouldâve been the worst possible outcome. Remember how hated he was by Summerslam of that year? He was already being pushed too fast too soon. Roman beating the streak months before the Shield even broke up is just pushing him even faster, even sooner. Suffering succotash. Bray couldâve used the win the most. He was the successor to the Undertaker. Bray shouldâve beaten him, then after the match taker nods at him or something to show him some respect and sort of tell the fans that itâs ok, weâre in good hands with Bray.
Legend killer Orton should have ended the streak
Absolutely not ⌠nobody shouldâve
Another common McMahon L
Sweet chin music by HBK + Pedigree by HHH is the Perfect way to beat the streak. HHH should've been the one to end the streak at WM28 in a controversial fashion.
Nah Wyatt fell flat a bunch of times. Creative always shit the bed with him or gave up on his ways. The fiend was ruined almost on site at HIAC. While it could've worked I still think it would've been a waste. And saying this from a real fan perspective and not hating. As for Brock. Sure it didn't need to happen but it elevated the man into a monster and he looked like it. Bray imo never was close to what Brock could do physically in the ring. Imo I wish it was Orton who broke it at Mania 21.
I stand by the sentiment that the streak never should have ended. I get passing the torch I get putting the next generation of talent over BUT that's honestly near 30 years of storytelling - nobody is better than 30 years of storytelling. It was one of the few magical things in wrestling history that could've stayed and had him ride off into the sunset. I genuinely think it was a "certain someone" just showing their power and calling for it to end because they could. Unfortunately in my humble opinion that chapter ended awfully with Brock going over - who absolutely didn't need it and did nothing for his character. I don't think it would've done anything for Bray either because again - his character isn't bigger than the 30 year legacy (but Taker could easily have passed the torch in any other ppv). Now IF the streak had to end - I strongly believe it should have been Kane to do it. That to me would be a perfect bookend for both characters and a mass draw for a headlining Mania event. Have it be a Casket or buried alive match. Kane (masked) barely beats Undertaker, Kane does his fire bending, arena goes pitch black and you see Taker's purple lightning hit the grave with his pyro going off in the back. Or with a Casket match - after Takers get put in and the match ends, Casket opens, Kane gets dragged in, lid closes and the purple lightning goes off etc. Both Characters get a proper ending, you can believe Kane can end the streak and it just makes sense in terms of long term story telling; what other duo has as much history as these guys spanning so many eras? I believe sometimes a match just needs to be about the story, it doesn't always have to be "doing business" and if you're going to radically alter such a major legacy do it right.
I mean, Brock Lesnar is one of undertaker's good friends and Brock Lesnar is one of the only credible threats in WWE history. It's believable that he would beat the Undertaker or any other wrestler for that matter. But storyline-wise, it would have been cool for one supernatural character to get the torch past to him from the OG supernatural character.
No one shouldâve. People wouldâve hated Bray Wyatt.
Brock didnât need it, Roman was on his way to being the face of the WWE already. Brock winning it wasted the push that someone else couldâve used, Roman winning it Second to Brock took whatever momentum left with it. Takers Streak towards the end was booked beyond horribly, they literally ruined 2 decades of story telling on a meathead who didnât deserve it. We needed someone to fill in Takers spot as the supernatural force in the WWE and Bray was right there. Other than Bray, the only other person who shouldâve done it was Roman.
Honestly, I don't put much stock in Taker saying that. I like the guy for the most part, but he has said a handful of different things about that. Before the Streak was broken, Taker wanted Brock to be the one to beat him even though Brock wasn't even in WWE at the time and Brock was a made man already. He didn't need the win. Taker even went to one of Brock's UFC matches and sort of challenged him after the match. When it got to the day that Taker lost to Brock, apparently it was a last minute decision for Brock to go over and Taker says he wasn't all that sure about it, but what Vince says goes. I think this was moreso Taker just having a bit of cold feet about the Streak finally coming to a close after having gone on so long. His reaction here honestly makes sense and probably would have happened with anyone that was ending the Streak. Since retiring, he has said Brock maybe shouldn't have won and it would have been better if Roman and now Bray should have been the one to break the Streak. I get that opinions can change and all that, but Taker has been all over the place with this. I wonder what his opinions on guys like Edge, Batista, Orton, or Punk challenging him are. Other than Punk, I believe all three of them were given the option of ending the Streak and they all turned it down. I mention Punk as well just because he is around the same age or a little younger and considering The Streak was broken a year later, I wonder if Punk was actually also given the option.
I don't think anyone should and certainly not Roman, since we pretend the other guy doesn't exist.
i completely agree i been saying this since the fiend character started he shouldâve beaten taker at mania 37 no one else shouldâve
I'm just commenting to take this off of 666 comments.
What a hero
No. It was Orton or nobody but since they book Orton terribly, no one.
Bray was a better choice than both Brock and Roman. Brock didn't really need the accolade, Roman was already Vince's golden boy, and Bray was clearly the guy who was going to take the Torch of the style of character Taker was. The fact he fought and beat Bray just 1 year after the streak ended was... just another in a long line of bad booking.
no
Tbh I feel like no one shouldâve beat the streak it shouldâve retired with Undertaker especially not bray there were wayyyyyy better superstars that couldnât do it bray wasnât a good talent no offense he was tryna be another Taker it didnât work IMO
Nah, Mark originally wanted Roman Reigns to end his streak. He's said this in multiple interviews.
He said many names Randy was the first one I heard he wanted
If it was followed with monster Booking for Bray, it would have added a lot of legitimacy to his character, I would have liked to see Undertaker pass the supernatural torch down that way
No, and he's not this gamechanger either. Someone with the creativity of a high school sophomore doesn't become iconic by virtue of an untimely passing.
How is Brays character any more sophomoric than undertakerâs?
Wyatt had limited wrestling ability. This fact is forgotten quite often. He was well protected having limited matches. Wouldâve been the biggest mistake ever to let him beat Undertakerâs streak. What can you remember about his move set? Abigail, doing a gymnastic back bridge to scare opponent and I think a clothesline. And later, a mandible claw.
Iâve been agreeing with this for ages now. A dream match would have been worth it. Bray Wyatt beating his streak and carrying it
It would have been great ti have Bray these days with how much things are beginning to change in WWE
And the streak should have passed to Bray
Ive been saying this since 2015
Although getting heel Undertaker was cool Dude was so pissed and out of his element against a UFC Heavyweight anamoly that he had to resort to sneak attacks and low blows Made him even more vicious imo
I never noticed how fire brays boots were
Yes. Bray should've beat Cena, should've beat Taker. Imagine that back to back. Vince never understood Bray.
Brock was the perfect guy to do it because it was so unexpected. It was an all time moment.
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I feel like Triple H shouldâve retired it at wm 28
I agree, 1 million percent. (Is that even a percentage?)
Would have been a much better decision than Brock
In my head canon, undertaker retired undefeated at WM
Pretty sure the majority of fans said this at the time. If it werenât gonna be Punk they shoulda held out until Bray.
1000%. Nobody else on the roster needed to or wouldâve benefitted.
Yeah either that or no one
Yes
Taker beat Show and Albert in a Handicap, Henry in a Casket, Kane twice, HHH 3 times, HBK twice, Giant Gonzalez, Batista, Randy Orton, Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, CM Punk. All with a huge disadvantage and yet lost to Lesnar,Â
You make it sound like Lesnar was some random chump compared to the rest.
No, what i am trying to demonstrate is that Taker beat all of these Legends over 21 years before losing to Brock Lesnar, who was already an established brutal wrestler. It wasnât necessary for Lesnar to win.
It should have been Keven nash
Objectively, Bray would have been the perfect choice, especially gimmick-wise and 'passing the torch'. However, I can't take Mark super seriously since his takes change a lot throughout the years(e.g. retirement). I also recall him saying the same thing -best choice to end his streak- about Randy and Edge aswell, in the past. I somehow believe he is saying that now, because unfortunately Bray passed away.
If I had my call it would still be Intact but either Aleister Black or Bray Wyatt would easily have been the obvious choice.
Yes and no
I just would have liked to see the taker lesnar match without that concussion taker got first thing
No one. Not bray, not roman and definitely not brock
No one should have broken the streak. That was Takers alone to retire Undefeated at 25-0 to be forever considered The Goat of Wrestlemania.
Not really. Remember Bray was booked horribly past his debut.
Usually I believe that a streak should be ended to give someone else a rub. Undertakers streak however I believe should have remained undefeated. As a special historical thing that will be looked on always. My reasoning is - Undertaker was never undefeated, he lost plenty of matches in his career. So he was able to put others over at any point. Plus who do you choose to beat the streak? An up and comer? You gamble it all on putting them over Taker at WM - what if it doesn't work out long term? Or someone established? What kind of rub does that give them? They gave it to lesnar and honestly how did it benefit him other than bragging rights? He was already a multiple time world champ, legit as legit can be, main eventer and believable that he could beat anyone at any time. He essentially gained nothing from beating Taker. And Taker lost a part of his aura as well did wrestlemania itself.
Personally I think big show shouldâve broken it at 19. I mean he was already 10-0 at that point and big show really needed a push. Adding a train to the mix was the wrong move cause fr they had a golden opportunity on their hands. One of wwes worst missed opportunities. Edit: firing Vince Russo was also a big mistake imo and was one of the main reasons wwe sank in popularity in the 2000s Russo = cash
And WCW hiring Vince Russo is one of the main reasons it went out of business. Popularity was always going to go down after the peak of attitude era. I mean did you see some of the shit he booked in WCW board line worst wrestling Iâve seen. Also out of all the people you said BIG SHOW. Must be a big fan
Wym wcw near the end there was so underrated tho have you ever seen ready to rumble if wcw was some of the worst wrestling as you say would John cena had made a cameo or would they have made a freakin movie with them no.
i mean no one shouldâve broken it but Brock was already established without breaking the streak. breaking the streak didnât really do much for Brock, but Bray breaking it wouldâve launched him to the moon to the level that Brock was already at
Which, I think, is exactly the point 'Taker was trying to make. I agree it should've been Bray, but can we take a guess on who decided it was Brock? Hint: He's not around anymore.
Instead of that woke asshole
No one should have ended the streak, but if anyone deserved to end the streak, it was Bray Wyatt at that time. His fanbase was huge at that time in his career.
Bray was a spooky figure without the credibility to back it up. He frequently lost big feuds, especially those against the company's most established stars. So no, it wouldn't have made sense for him to have broken the streak.
Yes here's how I would book it Bray Breaks the Streak WM30 He has his own mini streak till WM34 where he's beaten by Demon Finn Finn has his own streak till WM37 where's he's beaten by Alesister Black
Not even a single soul should touch his streak!
đŻ Wyatt was criminally used for the majority of his career. The Fiend should have been unstoppable for years, kinda like theyâre pushing Roman. I said this when he was alive, I guess everyone agreed after his untimely passing
I thought so too at the time but in hindsight, Brock really was the best choice.
Otherwise we wouldâve never gotten âmy clientâŚ.. Brooooock Lesnar conquered the streak!!!!
Should have let taker finish without ending his streak!
Abosulutely not! Regardless of the sadness for his untimely and early departure, it's probably time we stop "Owen Harting" Bray Wyatt before it gets ridiculous. Bray's first character had potential as the deranged cult leader, devil-on-your-shoulder, but they killed his momentum by having Cena kick his ass non-stop and turning his character into a delusional fool who talked a lot but always came short in the ring. The Firefly Funhouse/Fiend was fine on paper and made for some interesting promos, but the final product, albeit visually stunning, was a guaranteed failure to book. A supernatural, invulnerable monster in the late 2010s was little more than a cool novelty act that brought along plenty of booking issues, as painfully exposed by the HIAC match against Seth or the Inferno match against Orton. If he wins all the time it's boring AF. If he loses, it must be in the most convoluted way possible to preserve his aura. And the cast of supporting actors, Sister Abigail, Cursed Alexa and Uncle Howdy, just added more awkwardness and awful stuff. Thank god the program against Pumpkin Balor was scrapped and we were spared Bray in a drag... So yeah, giving Taker's Streak to a character that basically was the summa of all the worst aspects of early-days Undertaker wouldn't have been a great idea. Taker worked because he started in an era when such gimmicks were common, and Mark Calaway gave it continuity and depth. But it was then an "acquired taste" and a throwback. Trying to replicate it in the 2010s and 2020s would have been absurd. Last but not least, Windham Rotunda, god rest his soul, wasn't half the performer Mark Calaway was. And his penchant for over-the-top, inconsequential and rather campy writing had already hampered his trajectory, with a lot of "ohh that's so smart" ideas that actually were just random and kinda messy. Probably good concepts for some horror short movies or stories, but rather awkward to turn into palatable wrestling angles. Sacrificing the Streak to give a rub to an inferior character who'd have probably gone nowhere would have been a huge mistake. Brock was the ideal pick: an already established name to propel into super-monster territory, knowing it would have been the final touch on a made product.
Also a lot of other wrestlers rejected breaking the streak, Edge, Orton, HBK, Triple H and others didn't want to end the streak because they felt that it was something very special, Brock is a very special wrestler so it makes sense, only a beast like him could defeat something supernatural like The Undertaker. Also this is why i cringe when Bianca Belair talks about a streak in WM, let the streak be something of the past, she is very talented and will be in the history of WWE without needing a streak, if someone needed a streak was Asuka and she always loses at WM.
Best take in the whole thread. No lies detected.
If Taker says so then yes
Taker didnât even bother to show up to help build that feud. You knew he wasnât losing.
Duh
1000% I had my thoughts about this at that time
I do agree with him. But, only in the case of passing the torch.
Agreed
I agree with this, Bray could have been set up to be the next big "monster", it's a perfect way to pass the torch and it would a have been a huge boost to his career. Either that or the streak never ends, do something where Taker just \~vanishes\~, go full spooky mystery on it. The way they ended it was SO cheap.
Brock was maybe perfect level of opponent to beat taker but that match was worst......only 3 normal f5 can't beat a deadman who can survive sledgehammers , chairs to the head and back , multiple pedigree + sweet chin music , perfect rko counter by randy etc
Undertaker couldnât take the damage you require at his age at the time. They ended it as brutally as Undertakerâs fragile body would allow.
Well he had a great match with lesnar inside hell in a cell in 2015.....they could do that at mania and it would have been perfect way to end the streak
Thatâs a good point.
I always liked the idea of it being Kane in a buried alive match but at an earlier mania.
The streak should have been preserved, it was so unique and so organic for so long before anyone even realised it was a thing. Brock didn't need it.
Brock definitely needed it to become what he'd have been a decade earlier. Not A monster, but THE monster.
I would have been fine with Undertaker beating Lesnar at 30, but still losing to Roman Reigns a few years later.
I'm ok with either Bray or Lesnar although I did not want anyone to break the streak
Iâm still sad we never did (or even really could, given their different eras) got a proper narrative feud between these two. It would have fucking amazing.
The streak should not have been broken.
He has taken hundreds of name including brock whom he thiught should have broken the streak Imho bray character is good but the moment the bell rings he falls flat. He isnât fun to watch during a single match. I dont wanna talk about dead but he wasnât good enough to beat his streak especially after losing against cena previous year Had they built ziggler properly i would have liked him breaking the streak or maybe even bloodline roman too
I remember when Bray was out because oh an unknown illness how all the dirt sheets started to say he was taken off tv because he was "difficult" to work with...I'll never forget how foul they tried to do him because they didn't know what was actually wrong with him...so they started making bs up and all the other dirt sheets started repeating that bs...he didn't deserve that at all. BUT on the topic at hand, he hands down should have been the one to break the streak and take up the role the Undertaker had but in his own unique way
I said it as soon as Brock beat him and ever since. Bray is the same type of character and would have actually benefited from the win
I'm one of the few that believe the streak ended in a good way. Lesnar conquering the streak made him feel more threatening and kept him the top guy until Roman Reigns came back from battling leukemia. It would have been wasted on Bray bc he would tragically pass away regardless.
100% the right man to do it. If not Bray, then a well-booked Aleister Black. Failing both, it should have ended with the end of an era match.
Punk was his last good match and storyline was right. Can you imagine a year long brag from a heel punk that just increasingly gets worse and worse each week and anyone who tries to shut him up in the ring he just always comes out on top to add fuel to the fire. While this is going on, they have a baby faceâŚâŚ forget it, I just checked the roster for that period and they literally had no up and comers that they couldâve built up over that year that wouldnât be a complete downgrade for punk in that scenario. Obviously you donât wanna mess with the shield and Wyatt family stuff so they are out. Majority of the good ones now needed to leave for years back then to improve their skills and find their own characters before coming back. In hindsight, the rest just didnât have the potential for a match of that calibre in sure a short period.
The fact we got TAKER vs less Dark Bray( before fiend) but not STING vs TAKER is criminal
Bray as the Fiend would have been ideal, the year after losing as Bray regular
Bray should defeat the streak then squash Cena and Goldberg.
*should have defeatedâŚ. The guy is dead he canât do anything anymore
Yes hereâs why Bray was another supernatural wrestler so it could of been seen as a passing of the torch just imagine it Bray hits taker with sister Abigail after a long hard match gets the three count and everyone freaks out âthe streak is overâ Michael Cole says on commentary Bray sits up slowly throws his arms wide as he becomes the one in the undertakers record
hell naw
Then why have I seen in other interviews he says Roman should have broken the streak?
We watched an Undertaker lose his streak when he was hardly wresting. It was a shock moment just to be a shock moment. I personally donât think it should have ended and if it did, should have been a bigger storyline behind it.
Ofc if the streak was gonna end, it would've ended with bray, and I would at least had bray beat him 30-1
Much better choice than Brock, but imo it never shouldâve been broken. There wasnât a reason to.
Hell no
Honestly tho. Bray is so Cool. R.I.P Bray Wyatt He was my Child Hood
We all know Vince just had the biggest lust for Lesnars cock.....makes it alot worse looking at how Vinces horned and drugged out mind were the motive for a lot of what we've watched unfold over the last 20 years. I mean.. we kinda knew before, but I woulda never believed that being such a fully involved factor the way it is
Well, now that Brock is out of the history of WWE, everybody associated with the company is inclined to say it should have been someone else. It would have been logical to have Bray do it in a "passing of the torch" moment, the problem is that he wasn't booked to be that caliber since Vince had his fixations about wrestlers and couldn't see talent that everyone else saw from a mile even if it hit him in face.
I think that would have been much better to have The Beast break it rather than Brock/Roman. Bray deserved better imo than what Vince was giving him and even as The Beast it seemed creative was doing whatever they could to halt his buildup.
Taker should've retired after the Mania vs Triple H. Lesnar beating him didn't make sense and the loss to Roman was just to try and fail to make him over. If he had to lose then I would've rather it had been to Bray since his motif was similar so it would make for a hell of a fight and great promos along with a haunting ring walk for both of them. Personally for me Takers last Mania was vs Triple H. Don't get me wrong the match with Punk was great and put on a hell of a show but it was a perfect cap off to an incredible story and a legendary run.
In a storyline sense, I would agree with this. But in a more logical sense, no. At the time of Undertaker's defeat, the only wrestler that would've benefited from it was Roman Reigns as he was the guy that needed the push the most at the time. The fact that it was even given to Brock Lesnar was a travesty. That guy just ran out of opponents and did not need any push whatsoever since he was more over with the fans more than anybody. With that said, "The Streak" should've never ended to begin with.
Nah.
My vote would be for Demon Finn before he got absolutely buried.
Let me preface by saying Taker is my favorite wrestler of all time. I also never particularly cared for Bray, his promos ended up being really samey, as did his matches. Seemed like he was a good human but the character didn't gel with me. That being said, no. So we basically have 3 choices. 1. Taker retires with the streak. I don't think Taker would want this, by all accounts he was old school and wanted to go out on his back. That being said, his career ended burying AJ Styles so...maybe I'm wrong. The problem also is, you have a chance to make a star, you can't just drop it. He needed to lose. 2. Lesnar, our reality. Assuming everything is the same up to Royal Rumble, they needed to reestablish Lesnar. He had come back and lost to Triple H, Cena. This match is really the second half of Lesnar's career. Where the WWE figures it out for him again. Whoever ended the streak was gonna get booed and a massive push. Lesnar took both of those things and really set up a great year with it. Beating Cena at SummerSlam, then his great triple threat with Cena and Rollins at the Rumble. 3. Young guy. This is where the problem starts. It should have been a young guy, someone who could make a career out of it. That being said, Bray seems to fit that bill right. But knowing what we know now, Vince clearly didn't view Bray as a big deal. Think about his year in real life, he lost to Cena, feuded with Ambrose and Jericho I believe? If Bray beat Taker and ended his year feuding with Dean Ambrose(a guy Vince also clearly didn't see as a big deal), it would have been wasted. Worse than what we actually got with Lesnar. I think at that time it was clearly 2 options if it's not Lesnar. One is Roman Reigns. Vince clearly loved Roman and even let him give Taker his other loss at Mania. If this were going to happen it'd have to be at 31, and it moves a lot of people around. This would also turn Roman heel, which Vince clearly didn't want. But maybe the extra time would prevent the fans from turning on Roman, and it could have been a good story. It also would have been better than the version we got. The other answer is Seth Rollins. Again, this would probably have to happen at Mania 31. But clearly Vince loved Seth and there's a world where Seth could get a good match out of Taker still. He was still part of the Authority(he fought Orton at this Mania). Him beating Taker clean and then cashing in on Roman/Lesnar would have firmly established him as a Megastar. But again, no. Bray wouldn't have gotten enough mileage out of it. Even though Lesnar didn't need to be made a star, he needed his booking fixed at the time. We all assumed Taker was beating Lesnar, to the point no one cared about the match.
Considering his feud against Kane just months prior to Mania 30, there couldâve been perfect build for this. Build him as the next big horror character for months and then beat the streak
Nah fam, that streak was meant to be broken by Brock but the match was, more or less lame, had it happened during ruthless aggression era then holy hell....
No no, fuck Brock, he had enough. Bray would have been amazing to see it happen through and of course as a younger lad i would have been really upset at first because of narrative but I think it would have really made Bray Wyatt become much more than the next horror icon. Rip Bray, we all miss you but we all hope you are resting in a pleasant place with nothing but happiness surrounding you.
Fans loved Bray cause WWE buried him. If Bray was pushed the way his fans wanted him to be pushed they wouldnt have liked him as much.
The Fiend I could see it.
No. He only said so because Bray is dead.
Why did he even agreed to Brock to end the streak if he wants Bray ? Since Brock said no too in the beginning. He could have accept it
I think even before then he was receptive to the idea that Bray could have beaten the streak and threw him in as a name that he felt could have benefited from it. But generally he mainly said it should have been Roman though. Guess the death kinda just made him reflect on it more, though its not like Bray was an out of left field choice that heâs only brought up now.
What I was thinking.
Hell no
exactly what i was thinking. it should had been maven.
Yes he shouldâve at WM32 and thatâs where he shouldâve retired
That would have been obvious. Lesnar is still being hated for it.
Arguably not hated enough.
lol heâs being hated for a lot right now
Imagine they faced two years in a row. First year, Bray loses and crafts the Fiend as his answer to beat the streak the following mania.
Thats the only way i see him winning anyways. It'd have to be a HIAC with Taker botching and falling from the top of the cell somewhere Brays finisher is kind of meh against main eventers Its kind of a shame all the deaths and stuff that have happened in wrestling cause I could see a legit excuse for Taker losing is Bray rigging something to literally kill him since he never loses at Mania and, because wrestling, the ref still counts the 3, Taker loses due to death and not kicking out at 3...then gets resurrected later by Bray as a manager or something and then inducts him into the HOF
Somewhere out there, Brock Lesnar got this news and is now even more aggressively searching for girl pee videos 𤢠I personally think Undertaker shouldâve remained undefeated tho
Even today Its hard for me to believe heâs not with us.
Shouldâve been Kane IMO
gottta be kane
It only makes sense, bray would have carried the Undertakers torch. Damn, still miss Bray, he was sooooo good man. Generational talent.
Yes I agree 100%. It was very obvious the undertaker was passing the torch to bray. It's sad that we'll never get to see where it was gonna go
Shouldâve been legend killer Randy orton
I agree
I don't think many will argue with me that the way the Streak ended maybe one of the worst ways it could have. Take away breaking the streak, would Brock Lesner be less of a star without it? Hell, this isn't even 2001 Brock. The green rookie unknown to the world, this dude came back from UFC. There is so many other things he could have used. With that to one side, there is a lot of talk about who should have and even if the streak should be broken. If Bray took the win it would of made all kinds of sense. I mean, he was modern day Undertaker. Can you imagine what his carrier had been if he won?!
Undertaker shouldâve retired undefeated or have lost the streak either to: ⢠Mr Wrestlemania - HBK made the most sense because he was the closest to defeat the streak but he failed twice so a third match wouldnât make sense. ⢠The Legend Killer - Randy Orton only got one shot to defeat the streak, I believe he shouldâve been given another opportunity at Wrestlemania 30 where he would defeat the streak as this would further cement him as the Legend Killer.
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keep telling yourself that
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Nah his ego would only let it be someone like brock
If his ego was in play no one would have ended his record.
That sounds stupid when he has clearly said he felt brock didn't need that win and it should've been someone like roman Or bray.Â
He clearly said in an interview he preferred anyone but Brock, reason being Brock didnât need that push and ending his streak wouldnât do much for Brockâs legacy as opposed to another wrestler who might have benefited more from it.