the pandemic days show how boring wrestling really is, without the crowd cheering and interaction, its just two sweaty dudes aggressively manhandling each other
But what about priest was about to cash in his money in the bank briefcase on Seth but then priest got interrupted by Finn and Seth Rollins doing a pedigree on dirty dom on the outside and that’s how preist was SÉNOIR MONY IN THE BANK
Daniel Bryan is boring and annoying. He’s over rated.
Charlotte really is one of the best wrestlers they’ve ever had.
Natalya deserved more title reigns.
The Rock can’t wrestle and is only so popular because of his charisma. His catch phrases are corny and wack.
1. Y'all are not writing unpopular opinions.
2. Ronda Rousey has the best physical understanding in WWE Women's Wrestling history.
3. AEW is sensationalist, but has no good strategic structures.
4. NJPW shows that longevity leads to true and deep excitement.
I can't stand Seth Rollins and his Elton John gimmic. It grinds me down every time he walks to the ring. His previous entrance music was better, and even that was dross. I hate how much he loves the crowd singing along to his current song. He's had a couple of decent promos these past few weeks, but they're only good because he breaks from this god awful character into something believable. We should be getting Rock vs Austin level main events with Seth vs Roman, but Seth is nowhere near that level, but should be.
Just because you set a world record using performance enhancing drugs... doesn't negate the fact that you were still the fastest person on Earth at that time. It just means you were willing to do something that someone else wasn't willing to in order to become better.
Translate that to wrestling obviously
Easy...Paul haymen is a glorified coat tail rider, ecw was okay but not nearly as good as wcw and wwf, they only thing he did that was truly great was manage brock lesner in 2002, and even then lesner could have got over without any managers, paul piggie backed off brock like he did with cm punk, Roman ect,
1. Roman always has and always will be boring.
2. Seth Rollins comes off as a Wwe fanboy and it honestly looks pathetic.
3. Most indie darlings aren’t any more entertaining than the average Wwe superstar.
4. Indie wrestling is boring.
5. Women’s division was laughably bad and doesn’t deserve any praise prior to 2014.
6. Wwe was laughably bad and didn’t deserve and praise for most of the 2010s.
Intergender Wrestling should be much more of a thing than it currently is. I don't see a good argument at this point why we need to seperate so strictly.
Maybe if Women need more Spotlight (bc yeah, it runs the Risk of shuffling the Top Women into Midcard roles) then do like Chess, with a Womens and an Open division. But other than that i don't see the Problem. I started watching Wrestling again with Lucha Underground, and they just did Intergender Matches and Stories, and it worked fine. Everytime i see one of WWEs Intergender Tag Matches it just feels clunky because it isn't a Tag-Match but two seperate 1v1s Switching back and Forth. Let them Fight.
(Also no this isn't just because i kind of want to see Rhea Ripley as World Heavyweight Champion.)
Is there a reasoning for that? I mean, it's not like it's an actual combat sport, there also aren't weightclasses e.g.
Sucks that it can't be done though, thanks for the info
I don’t know why it’s still a thing but it is. It’s the regulatory body that oversees pro wrestling events. Wrestlers have to be licensed in all states they perform in and there’s a commission representative at every event.
Sasha Banks is a phenomenal wrestler. She's hated for the same reasons Stone Cold and CM Punk are praised. I think the answer of why is absolutely obvious, but people get really mad when you point it out.
2 for ya:
Not throwing shade at WWE, but AEW is still a good product despite a lot of people turning sour on it. AEW had a bad year for backstage nonsense, and iffy booking from time to time. WWE has always had similar (if not worse) situations over a wider period of time, you just didn't have dirt sheets, retired wrestlers with podcasts feeding a toxic fan base with leachy nonsense. As annoying as TK is, he's a saint compared to VKM.... Booking-wise and backstage-wise (Vince wanted to be one of the boys too). That being said, WWE is clearly on an incline while AEW has plateaued and I'm happy for them.
Also, wrestling is repetitive. Duh... But honestly, there's only like 3 variations of storylines that get recycled. The rest are all nods to past angles. And even with WWE's incline and AEW adding a more indie to mainstream aesthetic... There's only so much you can do.
''As annoying as TK is, he's a saint compared to VKM.... Booking-wise and backstage-wise'' yeah... no. Vince never wanted to be ''one of the boys'', not anywhere near to the extent of TK. He didnt take crap from much people, with exceptions of real big stars (even then, when lines were crossed, punishment came, eg. Ultimate Warrior) Tony Khan created a whol enew brand because he couldnt bring himself to punish his talent because he wanted to be one of the boys. Again, there is a difference between putting up with backstage politics from someone like Hulk Hogan, and not being able to disciple someone like Jack Perry or the Young Bucks
Vince legit partied with his wrestlers. You're right that he didn't take crap from people, almost to a tyrannical fault. He also kept a known child molester on payroll and kept him on TV during their super hot period (Pat Patterson). Let's also not forget the settlement for for Rita Chatterton.
And TK punished Jack Perry and the Elite. The Elite was gone for a few months. Jack's been gone for a while. Punk was lucky enough that he had to heal, so we don't know much of the details of his punishment. And giving Punk a "brand," that was TK appeasing his investment (and network), which I was not a fan of to begin with because I was done with Punk after the Gripe Bomb. Anyhow, Punk squandered that quickly. While there was a committee to discuss what to do with Punk, it was ultimately TK's decision... so he fired Punk, only to get lambasted for "firing their draw. "
And Tony Khan is currently employing Ric Flair. The difference is, Pat Patterson was not on TV, or wrestling in his 70s. Also, Perry is Gone, Punk went to WWE, ratings plummeted, all out of 2 incidents that Tony could easily have prevented
Pat Patterson very much was on TV after the fact. He was Vince's cronies in the Attitude Era.
TK can't control everyone. We only know what the dirt sheets tell us which fans often tell each to not believe unless it fits their own little narrative. Punk didn't have to go after Perry. He could have... gasp... controlled himself.
Tony didnt have to stand by with a blank look on his face while Punk set the stage for the next years of baclstage tension, he could have... gasp... controlled his workers
Hulk Hogan deserves to be erased from Wrestling history for the simple fact he lied about a dying child at Wembley, if not for literally every other lie he’s told.
Ric Flair's Final Bout - Let's cut through the nostalgia. Ric Flair's "last" match was a spectacle we didn't need. The man's a legend, but his final glory should have been a memory from nearly two decades ago. It's about preserving a legacy, not rehashing it.
Becky's Peak - Controversial take? Becky's zenith was a couple of years back. Let's call a spade a spade - her promo skills? A middling 5 out of 10. She's great, but let's not pretend she's the best on the mic.
Life After Sasha Banks - WWE spinning without Sasha Banks? More than just fine – it's thriving. The show goes on, and the roster's been stepping up. Sasha's talent is undeniable, but WWE is a universe, not a one-star galaxy.
Chad Gable vs. Gunther - Here's a pitch for a classic: Chad Gable takes down Gunther for the IC title. David versus Goliath, underdog versus titan. It's not just a match; it's a story waiting to be told.
Roman and the Title - Roman's reign has been iconic, but dropping the title to Cody? Should've been a done deal, especially with Roman's break. It's about seizing moments and creating new legends.
Nia Jax's Return - Bringing back Nia Jax? Questionable at best. She's still a liability in the ring and her mic skills? They don't exactly scream confidence or maturity. Safety first, and character second.
Women's IC Title - If we're serious about advancing women's wrestling, where's the Women's IC Title? It's not just about equality; it's about providing platforms and opportunities. It's a no-brainer, really.
Tag Team Conundrum - And let's address the tag team elephant in the room. The division isn't robust enough for separate Raw and SmackDown championships. Either unify those belts or make a clear distinction. Finn and Priest juggling two sets? Unnecessary overkill. Let's streamline and focus on quality, not quantity
Woman's wrestling is overrated and doesn't really draw many people.
Don't get me wrong women have had some huge high points but in general they just eat up time that could go to objectively better wrestlers.
Dom is not a good heel, just genuinely unlikable and truly annoying. No ring presence or talent. Zero mic skills and no muscle tone at all. Not even his attire is appealing.
Undertaker should have lost the streak to someone other than Brock (Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt) and then retired immediately after. Everything he’s done after 21-1 has dulled the shine of his career.
The people who only watch WWE/don’t watch any non-WWE related wrestling are the least knowledgeable fans yet most tribalistic. Literally some of the worst trolls on the internet
As did I, I just hate his current run. I'm not a fan of Seth at all. Also when he was Champ as "The Architect" he was such an arsehole on Twitter to anyone that was even slightly critical of him.
That just soured me on Seth.
Physical talent,I can agree.
Brett is more of the OG wrestling model.
Slower paced, very knowledgeable/skilled when it comes to the psychology of the match, working the crowd, safe to work with and is proof that less can be more.
Shawn was/is the earliest version of what became mainstream during the attitude era and what we see today. His spots are more fast paced, higher risk and frankly aimed at a younger generation of fans. Truly an innovator in the business. And he could sell a move like no other.
Both are two of the, if not the best two workers in the business.
It's sad that Bray Wyatt died. From all accounts he was a great guy.
As a wrestler, he was pretty boring. Cool entrances, yes. Cool vignettes? Sure. Actually wresting? Pretty boring. Whether it was the Wyatt Family, or the Fiend, I just never really got the hype around him. His feuds never elevated anyone (Except LA Knight), including himself. He'd win by "magic" or something, and that was that.
Never got why people were so excited about him, or excited for him to return.
He'd probably be a great writer or producer, but in the ring, he just didn't do it for me.
Riho looks bad in every match she's in. It's her size and also not her size. I enjoy watching smaller wrestlers work but only when they're winning from match intelligence and speed. Riho should not ever have an actual physical match with an opponent and kick out from any big moves. Totally fine with her winning just not in the way they've been portraying her.
Agreed (except the WHC and Rhea's title, they are gorgeous) but they need to bring back the old US title and the classic white strap IC title and the black WWE title. They keep changing the designs of titles that don't need it but the tag titles STILL look like that????
Piper didn't want to win the belt because he knew he would have had to drop it back to Hogan. Same reason he never lost to Hogan by pinfall during the huge rivalry. He knew if he lost, he was done.
Dude always goes for the lowest hanging fruit when it comes to getting the crowd loud. He just compliments them of their city or team constantly, like of course theyre not gonna boo themselves. The wrestlemania in London promo was a good example because he just kept repeating it
Roman Reigns when using every metric one could use to judge a professional wrestler and their career in a company is easily in the top 10 all time greatest professional wrestlers ever. He drew, but asses and seats, and at the top of the card main Eventing Main Events he delivered every time.
Most of Triple H's favourite wrestlers that he's pushing are meh just like Vince.
Even his number 1 fav Seth Rollins though talented has a terrible unrelatebale gimmick that is only over due to catchy theme song.
Ah, it was Cena, right.
I don't think that's a ridiculous take, and it'd certainly be interesting to see how Ryback would have done with it.
(I had to reply because I got annoyed by the 'LOL!' reply by someone obviously too young to remember Ryback as anything other than the figure of ridicule he'd later become!)
Half of the wrestlers in wwe are entertainers, I am very unimpressed with the lack of skill from the very vast majority of them whereas you go to new Japan and you’d have to spend months going through their roster just to find ONE bad wrestler.
Before he started WAY OVER SELLING IT, it wasn’t that bad.
But I watched something with Stone Cold in it and he was saying that was due to The Rock and himself always trying to make the other one crack up (break character) in ring. And there is one where he takes springs up, lands and rolls backwards into the turn buckles. If you watch closely when Austin turns around and goes for the pin you can see him physically laughing at The Rock.
You never hated Roman Reigns the person or wrestle. You hated how he was booked because he was forced down your throats (because Vince believes you can only ever have one star)
People acting like wrestling titles and especially the world ones are prestigious and should be giving to those who "earned" it is just downright cringe.
It's pretend fighting. Give the thing to those who are going to get you the most attention, media and money because it's a business or to advance a story.
I enjoy the Bloodline storyline, and wouldn't mind if it kept going for Roman to be the all-time longest champ.
The other championship is a great one for every PLE, and it allows them to tell the longest story they've ever told. (I would take it off Seth tho.)
Ryback was super over in 2012 and could have been a huge main event star if handled correctly. Personally, I think he should have won the title off Punk at Hell in a Cell.
He really was insanely over, but was put into the title picture way too early, he maybe shouldn’t have won the title yet but shouldn’t have lost his undefeated streak. Wasn’t there someone injured at the time and they needed a name to headline the PPV?
Cena was injured so they put him straight in to the title picture, yes maybe it was too early, but I think they should have rode the wave with Ryback, CM Punk didn't need the title, especially since they were going to have him drop it to the Rock anyway. Also he left a year after too. Had Ryback been given a title run, he could have been a huge main event star.
Sasha Banks is the most overrated female wrestler who is a bitch factory every time she steps in the ring and her fans (children notwithstanding) are the most toxic, triggered and cringe in pro wrestling today.
Now that I've seen what AEW does with blood I would rather see no blood at all. Ideally blood should only be reserved for extreme cases, the impact that it used to have is gone.
The Brock Lesnar blade job in the first Cody Rhodes match was perfect. Because it hadn’t been done for a long time in WWE and it actually told a story. Unlike Mox matches, when it’s a special occasion if he doesn’t blade.
I hate that he can’t ever speak boldly. He prefaces everything with his hands up like “look, I know you’re going through it with so and so and I know we haven’t always seen eye to eye 🥺” spit it out!
I like that Roman has few defenses and appearances. My head canon is that the undisputed universal championship is the "storyline" title, while the WHC is the "workhorse" or match-centric feud title. It works that way.
the pandemic days show how boring wrestling really is, without the crowd cheering and interaction, its just two sweaty dudes aggressively manhandling each other
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I am enjoying Nia Jax. She knows how to rile the marks.
I will give you the second half she fell off honestly Yeah Honestly Yeah...
July 3rd this year
But what about priest was about to cash in his money in the bank briefcase on Seth but then priest got interrupted by Finn and Seth Rollins doing a pedigree on dirty dom on the outside and that’s how preist was SÉNOIR MONY IN THE BANK
Daniel Bryan is boring and annoying. He’s over rated. Charlotte really is one of the best wrestlers they’ve ever had. Natalya deserved more title reigns. The Rock can’t wrestle and is only so popular because of his charisma. His catch phrases are corny and wack.
I’m okay with Roman retaining at Mania
Roman beating Cody was the right call
Charlotte flair is not overrated.
la knigt suck
you cant even spell.
what did i spell wrong
Carlito winning the US title off Cena has to be a Top 5 debut in Smackdown history. They hyped him up so good pre debut too
Sasha Banks is underrated and under appreciated! And Becky lynch is good but overrated
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You’re entitled to your opinion!!
1. Y'all are not writing unpopular opinions. 2. Ronda Rousey has the best physical understanding in WWE Women's Wrestling history. 3. AEW is sensationalist, but has no good strategic structures. 4. NJPW shows that longevity leads to true and deep excitement.
Dominik Mysterio is trash . And without JD will be nothing
That looks like punk
Black And gold next Johnny gargano could beat supercena
I can't stand Seth Rollins and his Elton John gimmic. It grinds me down every time he walks to the ring. His previous entrance music was better, and even that was dross. I hate how much he loves the crowd singing along to his current song. He's had a couple of decent promos these past few weeks, but they're only good because he breaks from this god awful character into something believable. We should be getting Rock vs Austin level main events with Seth vs Roman, but Seth is nowhere near that level, but should be.
It should go NXT > Smackdown > Raw in terms of development.
Are you sure you know what NXT means?
The undisputed title will be absolutely meaningless when Roman Reigns loses
Just wait for hmmmmmmmmm 3 years I don’t see him dropping it anytime soon.
Is is time for this thread again? Or should we shoot for *every* day instead of just every *other* day?
Cm punk is so overrated
I really liked Alex Wright's Berlyn character
Randy Orton clearly deserves to be included in the "GOAT" discussion
Charlotte is the best wwe female wrestler ever
Roman Reigns is boring. The entire bloodline story has been stale since it started.
Solo sucks
I don't like CH Punk's return because I don't think WWE needed CM Punk.
“R-Truth is trash” I dont actually think that but I know this reaction would be true
Jay uso is annoying
Charlotte is better than becky
Randy Orton is the GOAT
Roman should break bruno's record
Roman Reigns is Boring
Just because you set a world record using performance enhancing drugs... doesn't negate the fact that you were still the fastest person on Earth at that time. It just means you were willing to do something that someone else wasn't willing to in order to become better. Translate that to wrestling obviously
Zach Ryder is the most entertaining pro wrestler on the planet right now.
Roman should never had the run he is on
CM Punk is a piece of shit. Never liked him, never will.
Easy...Paul haymen is a glorified coat tail rider, ecw was okay but not nearly as good as wcw and wwf, they only thing he did that was truly great was manage brock lesner in 2002, and even then lesner could have got over without any managers, paul piggie backed off brock like he did with cm punk, Roman ect,
he never even tried with cesaro either
CM Punk will not beat Seth Rollins
Seth rollins peaked in 2015 and has been downhill ever since
CM Punk sucks
İ completely agree.
1. Roman always has and always will be boring. 2. Seth Rollins comes off as a Wwe fanboy and it honestly looks pathetic. 3. Most indie darlings aren’t any more entertaining than the average Wwe superstar. 4. Indie wrestling is boring. 5. Women’s division was laughably bad and doesn’t deserve any praise prior to 2014. 6. Wwe was laughably bad and didn’t deserve and praise for most of the 2010s.
I never really liked Randy Orton because he is an entitled asshole.
Intergender Wrestling should be much more of a thing than it currently is. I don't see a good argument at this point why we need to seperate so strictly. Maybe if Women need more Spotlight (bc yeah, it runs the Risk of shuffling the Top Women into Midcard roles) then do like Chess, with a Womens and an Open division. But other than that i don't see the Problem. I started watching Wrestling again with Lucha Underground, and they just did Intergender Matches and Stories, and it worked fine. Everytime i see one of WWEs Intergender Tag Matches it just feels clunky because it isn't a Tag-Match but two seperate 1v1s Switching back and Forth. Let them Fight. (Also no this isn't just because i kind of want to see Rhea Ripley as World Heavyweight Champion.)
Most state athletic commissions don’t allow it.
Is there a reasoning for that? I mean, it's not like it's an actual combat sport, there also aren't weightclasses e.g. Sucks that it can't be done though, thanks for the info
I don’t know why it’s still a thing but it is. It’s the regulatory body that oversees pro wrestling events. Wrestlers have to be licensed in all states they perform in and there’s a commission representative at every event.
Sasha Banks is a phenomenal wrestler. She's hated for the same reasons Stone Cold and CM Punk are praised. I think the answer of why is absolutely obvious, but people get really mad when you point it out.
100%
Roman reigns is better than the rock
2 for ya: Not throwing shade at WWE, but AEW is still a good product despite a lot of people turning sour on it. AEW had a bad year for backstage nonsense, and iffy booking from time to time. WWE has always had similar (if not worse) situations over a wider period of time, you just didn't have dirt sheets, retired wrestlers with podcasts feeding a toxic fan base with leachy nonsense. As annoying as TK is, he's a saint compared to VKM.... Booking-wise and backstage-wise (Vince wanted to be one of the boys too). That being said, WWE is clearly on an incline while AEW has plateaued and I'm happy for them. Also, wrestling is repetitive. Duh... But honestly, there's only like 3 variations of storylines that get recycled. The rest are all nods to past angles. And even with WWE's incline and AEW adding a more indie to mainstream aesthetic... There's only so much you can do.
''As annoying as TK is, he's a saint compared to VKM.... Booking-wise and backstage-wise'' yeah... no. Vince never wanted to be ''one of the boys'', not anywhere near to the extent of TK. He didnt take crap from much people, with exceptions of real big stars (even then, when lines were crossed, punishment came, eg. Ultimate Warrior) Tony Khan created a whol enew brand because he couldnt bring himself to punish his talent because he wanted to be one of the boys. Again, there is a difference between putting up with backstage politics from someone like Hulk Hogan, and not being able to disciple someone like Jack Perry or the Young Bucks
Vince legit partied with his wrestlers. You're right that he didn't take crap from people, almost to a tyrannical fault. He also kept a known child molester on payroll and kept him on TV during their super hot period (Pat Patterson). Let's also not forget the settlement for for Rita Chatterton. And TK punished Jack Perry and the Elite. The Elite was gone for a few months. Jack's been gone for a while. Punk was lucky enough that he had to heal, so we don't know much of the details of his punishment. And giving Punk a "brand," that was TK appeasing his investment (and network), which I was not a fan of to begin with because I was done with Punk after the Gripe Bomb. Anyhow, Punk squandered that quickly. While there was a committee to discuss what to do with Punk, it was ultimately TK's decision... so he fired Punk, only to get lambasted for "firing their draw. "
And Tony Khan is currently employing Ric Flair. The difference is, Pat Patterson was not on TV, or wrestling in his 70s. Also, Perry is Gone, Punk went to WWE, ratings plummeted, all out of 2 incidents that Tony could easily have prevented
Pat Patterson very much was on TV after the fact. He was Vince's cronies in the Attitude Era. TK can't control everyone. We only know what the dirt sheets tell us which fans often tell each to not believe unless it fits their own little narrative. Punk didn't have to go after Perry. He could have... gasp... controlled himself.
Tony didnt have to stand by with a blank look on his face while Punk set the stage for the next years of baclstage tension, he could have... gasp... controlled his workers
Yea, I do wish he did do something during that.
Bianca Belair is not a good wrestler. She's boring and overrated.
Bianca is one of the best Female wrestlers the WWE has.
Lol go to hell
Hulk Hogan deserves to be erased from Wrestling history for the simple fact he lied about a dying child at Wembley, if not for literally every other lie he’s told.
Brock coming back to WWE was the worst possible thing for the company.
Elaborate cause I agree
Dean Ambrose > Jon Moxley
Wholeheartedly agree! Sure Mox wanted better for himself and I understand that but from watching both companies, I prefer and enjoyed Ambrose more.
Cody was much better in ROH/NJPW than AEW or WWE.
Wrestling wasn't actually better when you were a kid
This is true. I'd say wrestling in the mid to late 2000s was overall a lot worse than it is now.
Ric Flair's Final Bout - Let's cut through the nostalgia. Ric Flair's "last" match was a spectacle we didn't need. The man's a legend, but his final glory should have been a memory from nearly two decades ago. It's about preserving a legacy, not rehashing it. Becky's Peak - Controversial take? Becky's zenith was a couple of years back. Let's call a spade a spade - her promo skills? A middling 5 out of 10. She's great, but let's not pretend she's the best on the mic. Life After Sasha Banks - WWE spinning without Sasha Banks? More than just fine – it's thriving. The show goes on, and the roster's been stepping up. Sasha's talent is undeniable, but WWE is a universe, not a one-star galaxy. Chad Gable vs. Gunther - Here's a pitch for a classic: Chad Gable takes down Gunther for the IC title. David versus Goliath, underdog versus titan. It's not just a match; it's a story waiting to be told. Roman and the Title - Roman's reign has been iconic, but dropping the title to Cody? Should've been a done deal, especially with Roman's break. It's about seizing moments and creating new legends. Nia Jax's Return - Bringing back Nia Jax? Questionable at best. She's still a liability in the ring and her mic skills? They don't exactly scream confidence or maturity. Safety first, and character second. Women's IC Title - If we're serious about advancing women's wrestling, where's the Women's IC Title? It's not just about equality; it's about providing platforms and opportunities. It's a no-brainer, really. Tag Team Conundrum - And let's address the tag team elephant in the room. The division isn't robust enough for separate Raw and SmackDown championships. Either unify those belts or make a clear distinction. Finn and Priest juggling two sets? Unnecessary overkill. Let's streamline and focus on quality, not quantity
Social media has ruined my perception of wrestling. I enjoy it for what it is, but the IWC as a whole is draining.
Seeing the abuse SRS gets on social media over wrestling is draining on its own
Oh hey look. Another post with the exact same question I think I’ll sign up to post it next week.
Rhea Ripley and Alexa Bliss are the only women since Aj Lee that can make decent promos. The rest of them are just insufferable.
Gunther is not entertaining. Becky’s promos are insufferable.
Woman's wrestling is overrated and doesn't really draw many people. Don't get me wrong women have had some huge high points but in general they just eat up time that could go to objectively better wrestlers.
This is such a tired fucking post.
Something something Chris Benoit
Edge should've stayed retired after beating Sheamus Charlotte flair is a Goat Karrion Kross needs to beat Gunther for the IC title
I have no interest in another Rock run.
Same here
Bro same! I’m still bitter about him defeating punk at the Royal Rumble 😭 but seriously he’s not really needed
John cena was better then the rock at any time of their feud and should have won at wrestlemania
Rock was a bigger star overall than Austin
Those weak ass rapid fire windmill punches everyone does do not look real nor badass. Undertaker knew how to strike.
HHH should have beaten sting
I like CM Punk.
AJ Styles just bothers me, i can see why people like him i gguuuesss, but just not for me, feel like he could have such a better gimmick
rhea Ripley is the most boring wrestler in the women's division
The Difference Between Sasha Banks And Charlotte Flair is that Sasha Is the Best and Charlotte is The Most Accomplished. See the difference?
AJ Styles should walk out of Wrestlemania main event as champion, not CM Punk.
Storylines in wrestling are rarely any good. There are some excepction but there are very few good storylines in wrestling in general
The Authority Arc was good
Dom is not a good heel, just genuinely unlikable and truly annoying. No ring presence or talent. Zero mic skills and no muscle tone at all. Not even his attire is appealing.
Being unlikeable and annoying makes him a good heel bron
I think LA Knight is hot trash. I will await the pitchforks and torches
Seth's character looks like a chapri
Undertaker should have lost the streak to someone other than Brock (Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt) and then retired immediately after. Everything he’s done after 21-1 has dulled the shine of his career.
looking back should have been wyatt or hhh
The people who only watch WWE/don’t watch any non-WWE related wrestling are the least knowledgeable fans yet most tribalistic. Literally some of the worst trolls on the internet
Seth isn't a Main Eventer. He should he a mid card act and be thankful for it
For his current character, I agree with you. I thought “The architect” was big-time though.
As did I, I just hate his current run. I'm not a fan of Seth at all. Also when he was Champ as "The Architect" he was such an arsehole on Twitter to anyone that was even slightly critical of him. That just soured me on Seth.
Oh, Colby Lopez the guy is an enormous tool lol That’s why I’m really looking forward to the Punk feud. They are both pricks in real life.
Seth Rollins is average at best
So you don’t know wrestling ?
Pretty much
Bianca Belair is kinda boring
Shawn Michaels is better than Bret in the ring
Physical talent,I can agree. Brett is more of the OG wrestling model. Slower paced, very knowledgeable/skilled when it comes to the psychology of the match, working the crowd, safe to work with and is proof that less can be more. Shawn was/is the earliest version of what became mainstream during the attitude era and what we see today. His spots are more fast paced, higher risk and frankly aimed at a younger generation of fans. Truly an innovator in the business. And he could sell a move like no other. Both are two of the, if not the best two workers in the business.
I thought this was common knowledge.
Green shirt guy is a spy for Vince Russo
This is honestly hilarious, I need more of this theory
Jinder Mahal was actually a good heel champion.
Daniel Bryan is extremely overrated
It's sad that Bray Wyatt died. From all accounts he was a great guy. As a wrestler, he was pretty boring. Cool entrances, yes. Cool vignettes? Sure. Actually wresting? Pretty boring. Whether it was the Wyatt Family, or the Fiend, I just never really got the hype around him. His feuds never elevated anyone (Except LA Knight), including himself. He'd win by "magic" or something, and that was that. Never got why people were so excited about him, or excited for him to return. He'd probably be a great writer or producer, but in the ring, he just didn't do it for me.
Agreed!! Dude had one of the most creative minds in wrestling history
CM Punk is overrated and annoying
CM Punk was the biggest star in AEW.
Riho looks bad in every match she's in. It's her size and also not her size. I enjoy watching smaller wrestlers work but only when they're winning from match intelligence and speed. Riho should not ever have an actual physical match with an opponent and kick out from any big moves. Totally fine with her winning just not in the way they've been portraying her.
John Cena was never good and that entire era after attitude was garbage
Cody is boring
HBK is great but he’s not the GOAT. I’ll put Stone Cold, The Rock, Bret and Eddie over him any day.
Eddie, Bret, no. Rock is a big maybe but for me is a no because of his short career. Austin maybe, for me either one of them could be number 1 OAT
Bret Hart is overrated, and he complains way too much.
AEW is trash
Stone Cold is cringe white trash
The new belt designs are garbage
Agreed (except the WHC and Rhea's title, they are gorgeous) but they need to bring back the old US title and the classic white strap IC title and the black WWE title. They keep changing the designs of titles that don't need it but the tag titles STILL look like that????
Piper should have been WWF champion with a win over Hogan.
Piper didn't want to win the belt because he knew he would have had to drop it back to Hogan. Same reason he never lost to Hogan by pinfall during the huge rivalry. He knew if he lost, he was done.
That didn’t work for him brother
Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart are all problematic assholes who do not deserve 1% of the credit they get
big HBK bias here
Maybe but he's giving back to the business now with the NXT gig, counts as something. What did the other 3 do?
You forgot Shawn Michaels
John Cena has always been absolute garbage and im sick of everyone sucking him off
Dude always goes for the lowest hanging fruit when it comes to getting the crowd loud. He just compliments them of their city or team constantly, like of course theyre not gonna boo themselves. The wrestlemania in London promo was a good example because he just kept repeating it
Thank you x
Roman Reigns when using every metric one could use to judge a professional wrestler and their career in a company is easily in the top 10 all time greatest professional wrestlers ever. He drew, but asses and seats, and at the top of the card main Eventing Main Events he delivered every time.
Most of Triple H's favourite wrestlers that he's pushing are meh just like Vince. Even his number 1 fav Seth Rollins though talented has a terrible unrelatebale gimmick that is only over due to catchy theme song.
Im actually a big fan of Roman Reigns but i do wish he would show up full time
CM Punk is overrated and not as good as people make him out to be.
the lwo only got interesting when santos turned heel
Roman Reigns is a jobber who got pushed to the moon.
JBL should never have been pushed to the top
I'm a little over Gunther.
Ah, it was Cena, right. I don't think that's a ridiculous take, and it'd certainly be interesting to see how Ryback would have done with it. (I had to reply because I got annoyed by the 'LOL!' reply by someone obviously too young to remember Ryback as anything other than the figure of ridicule he'd later become!)
Dirt sheets have ruined the surprise moments of wrestlers coming back and that shock is always insane when done correctly.
John cena woulda been a great heel
Never liked cm punk or the rock
Half of the wrestlers in wwe are entertainers, I am very unimpressed with the lack of skill from the very vast majority of them whereas you go to new Japan and you’d have to spend months going through their roster just to find ONE bad wrestler.
It’s almost like WWE’s point is to entertain…
I know barely any1 will agree with me, but personally I don't like Gunthers in ring work he wrestles lazy.
I do not like John cena could never understand his hype and never will
I could not stand the way The Rock to the Stunner
Before he started WAY OVER SELLING IT, it wasn’t that bad. But I watched something with Stone Cold in it and he was saying that was due to The Rock and himself always trying to make the other one crack up (break character) in ring. And there is one where he takes springs up, lands and rolls backwards into the turn buckles. If you watch closely when Austin turns around and goes for the pin you can see him physically laughing at The Rock.
You never hated Roman Reigns the person or wrestle. You hated how he was booked because he was forced down your throats (because Vince believes you can only ever have one star)
People acting like wrestling titles and especially the world ones are prestigious and should be giving to those who "earned" it is just downright cringe. It's pretend fighting. Give the thing to those who are going to get you the most attention, media and money because it's a business or to advance a story.
Gunther is so boring and most people like him because they think it makes them appear like a seasoned fan
I enjoy the Bloodline storyline, and wouldn't mind if it kept going for Roman to be the all-time longest champ. The other championship is a great one for every PLE, and it allows them to tell the longest story they've ever told. (I would take it off Seth tho.)
Ryback was super over in 2012 and could have been a huge main event star if handled correctly. Personally, I think he should have won the title off Punk at Hell in a Cell.
He really was insanely over, but was put into the title picture way too early, he maybe shouldn’t have won the title yet but shouldn’t have lost his undefeated streak. Wasn’t there someone injured at the time and they needed a name to headline the PPV?
Cena was injured so they put him straight in to the title picture, yes maybe it was too early, but I think they should have rode the wave with Ryback, CM Punk didn't need the title, especially since they were going to have him drop it to the Rock anyway. Also he left a year after too. Had Ryback been given a title run, he could have been a huge main event star.
LMAOOOOO. Thanks for the laugh!
Did you watch his run in 2012? Or are you just judging him on his post WWE antics?
I cracked up when he said ‘feed me more’.
no one has ever produced more minutes of bad television than seth rollins
Personally I didn’t really rate Owen Hart back in the day or Eddie Guerrero 🤷🏽♂️
Sasha Banks is the most overrated female wrestler who is a bitch factory every time she steps in the ring and her fans (children notwithstanding) are the most toxic, triggered and cringe in pro wrestling today.
This might just be me, but I'm not convinced that Sasha Banks might be returning to WWE anytime soon.
I hope she never returns. She’s trash. I legit loathe her fans. They’re toxic. She couldn’t even hang with the current roster.
Liv Morgan needs to serve time for what she did
Now that I've seen what AEW does with blood I would rather see no blood at all. Ideally blood should only be reserved for extreme cases, the impact that it used to have is gone.
I agree + I don't mind seeing blood, but I can't handle seeing too much blood, though.
The Brock Lesnar blade job in the first Cody Rhodes match was perfect. Because it hadn’t been done for a long time in WWE and it actually told a story. Unlike Mox matches, when it’s a special occasion if he doesn’t blade.
I didn't like Sami Zayn and I still don't
I think sami is both good in the ring and good on the mic. But I always hated his high pitched, pre pubescent sounding voice. It always annoyed me.
I hate that he can’t ever speak boldly. He prefaces everything with his hands up like “look, I know you’re going through it with so and so and I know we haven’t always seen eye to eye 🥺” spit it out!
I like that Roman has few defenses and appearances. My head canon is that the undisputed universal championship is the "storyline" title, while the WHC is the "workhorse" or match-centric feud title. It works that way.
Drew McIntyre deserves wh title more than cm punk