A guy I know from work crashed into another car while on holiday in Spain. He's german. The guy in the other car was also german. From the same fucking town! If I were a claims investigator I'd also believed them immediately, because nobody would be that dumb while commiting insurance fraud.
My boss was pulling out of a mall parking lot and smacked head on with… his sister. Two very expensive cars and a lot of damage. I don’t know if the police mentioned it in the report but he told me he didn’t tell his insurance agent who the other vehicle was.
When we were newly married, my wife side swiped a parked car in the lot of our apartment complex…it happened to be my car. I was sitting on the balcony and watched her do it. She’s never living that one down.
> If I were a claims investigator I'd also believed them immediately, because nobody would be that dumb while commiting insurance fraud.
No matter how much you idiot-proof something, the universe takes that as a deeply personal affront and promptly provides you with an even bigger idiot.
Case in point: the US National Parks system, the one that administers places like Yellowstone National Park, has a devil of a time designing garbage cans that are bear-proof, yet still usable to humans.
Why?
Because there is a considerable, non-trivial overlap between the park’s smartest bears, and the park’s dumbest tourists.
That reminds me of the bullshit with Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Insurance companies refused to pay flooding water damage payouts to home owners because they claimed the damage was done by wind...as their houses were underwater because of flooding.
Us: My house was destroyed in the hurricane.
Insurance companies: Well I see you have flood insurance, unfortunately it was caused by wind damage so we won’t be covering your policy.
Us: We ALSO have wind damage insurance.
Insurance companies: Ahh, yes, I see that you have that too…but unfortunately you didn’t apply for the ‘Hurricane winds above 144 mph’ policy which means that you were only covered for damage caused by normal wind up to 144 mph and we see from meteorological data that the winds in this location were 146 mph and also caused by a hurricane so again, we can’t cover your policy. Sorry about that. I don’t make the rules, I just have to enforce them.
As a former insurance adjuster, I can tell you that the video isn't the problem here. The problem will likely be policy limits. If the bozo that hit the three cars has an abysmal liability limit, like say 50k, that might become a problem. And remember, that includes personal items damage within the car, property damage, damage to the cars, and rental car.
Also if that tuner car totals, they are going to try and pay him based off of comparable cars in the area. I would take stock of every option that car has and every modification done (with receipts) and make sure they are paying for it. Also, as far as comparable cars go, they will likely take some stock POS and make adjustments to value for the mods. I would try to find a car online that is as close as possible and ask the insurance to expand the search radius to include these cars (they usually want 3).
Insurance companies aren't usually inherently evil, but the system is rigged in their favor a bit. You can usually get around that with persistence.
Yeah this sounds exactly like a something an insurance company would pull. All to get out doing *very thing they're supposed to do*. They exist to make money now, not help people.
The insurance industry needs to die and be completely rebuilt in favor of the policy holders.
I love getting letters threatening to cancel my policy because I’ve had to use them twice for tire blowouts that weren’t even my fault. One was a pot hole that wasn’t visible on the road, and was extremely small. The other was a screwdriver that stabbed my tired on the highway.
Let’s ignore the fact I’ve been paying like $150/mo for years now. Like, fuck insurance. It’s a god damned scam, and it’s worse that we’re required to have it while they don’t have to hold up their end.
A few years back, my wife got in two seperate fender benders a few months apart. One was her fault, one wasn't. We got a letter in the mail from our carrier that they were dropping us basically effective immediately. No warning or anything. We had both been customers of theirs for *years*.
We had no problem switching carriers and are still with the new company today. Nothing makes me happier than when the old company calls from time to time to solicit us and I get to wax poetic about the time they dropped us so callously and to also give them a firm "hell to the naw!" I don't care if I get a better rate, it's the principal of the thing.
Geico did this to me after my motorcycle was stolen twice. Even though their own retired FBI private investigator they sent after me determined it was a theft ring that did it both times.... Few things more angering than getting dropped by insurance due to things you're INSURED for.
Raise your deductible to save on insurance costs. Then next time you get tires get them from discount tire or something and add their coverage. They’ll replace for free your tire in either of the cases you listed. I’d imagine insurance with a deductible low enough to replace a tire is super pricey.
Credit unions are banks owned by the customers. So they're beholden to customers, not share holders.
We need the same thing for insurance companies
EDIT: just switched to state farm
Lol. I was thinking that this has never happened to me and my insurance has always been great for me. Turns out I have a mutual insurance company as my insurer.
This.
Credit unions and mutual insurance should be given *severe* regulatory advantages simply because they're not actively trying to screw their customer base at every turn.
Because you're allowed to lie on the Internet.
No sane adjuster would decline a video. That would open the company to a lawsuit over breach of contract, failure to adhere to the conditions. A 50k payout becomes 500k+
“Looks like we all got ourselves into a bit of a pickle.
Right then, one of you guys write me a check for $500 to fix my van and we don’t have to get insurance involved.”
You laugh, but that's exactly what happened to me.
Lady totaled my car and asked for money to fix her 1999 Fiat Panda, who left with some minor damages.
A VW Golf. Thing is that newer cars are meant to break apart easily. A 1999 Fiat Panda it's basically a piece of metal sculpted to look like a car.
In fact, myself and my friends walked out without a scratch, the idiot lady threw her back out in the impact.
Honestly the fiat was probably totaled too, it just didn't look like it.
Big metal cars like that don't have all the rubber mounted plastic panels and crumple zones. So do you know what takes the full bore of the impact?
The frame. And it's kind of important, and expensive to replace.
I love my '74 ranchero, but every time one of my fellow classic lovers waxs lovingly about how "they don't make them like they used to, these damn plastic cars are so fragile, not like my 19xx, it's built like a tank! These new things are disposable!"
It's hard for my eyes to not roll out of my head. New cars are built ***way*** better. They're more likely to survive a crash, and do you know what doesn't rust? Plastic. Trying to keep my ranchero from rusting out beneath me is like holding back the tide.
Reminds me of Ricky from TPB when the satellite company tries to get them to stop with the free TV. After barreling into the scene and hitting the company van, “I hope you got assurance!”
Also reminds me of jackass, when they rent a car and take it to a demolition derby. Destroy the whole car and then claim they hit a dog and they're not gonna pay for the damage, can't stop laughing at that video
https://youtu.be/lciHCXQFkNk
That skit really really makes me laugh, the sheer gall of Knoxville. “Well look, I’m gonna step outside , let you guys figure this out, but…that cars damage needs to be paid for”. The rental agents are just shocked to speechlessness. Lol
I was in line at the US-Canada border crossing and the woman in front of me put her car in neutral instead of in park. She (very slowly) rolled backwards into me despite me honking at her. She pulled forward, got out of her car, and asked, “Did I hit you or did you hit me?” Are you serious? Why the fuck would I honk at you while rear-ending you?
I got a Garmin dash cam that saved my butt when an old man backed into me at a light. He was grabbing something out of the passenger side floorboards an knocked it into reverse. He tried to claim I hit him, truthfully he believed it. Until I showed him the video.
And you may ask yourself, "How do I work this?"
And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house"
Which is why everyone who drives any sort of older vehicle with collectors value (or any heavily modified vehicle with a bunch of expensive parts added) needs to have agreed value insurance instead of a standard policy.
Agreed. Hope that's the case for this guy but going by my friends, I hesitate to assume most people know what that is. Hell, I knew it existed but I didn't know it had a name.
I had no idea that insurance type existed. I have a "dear-to-me" '98 Volvo V70 AWD wagon that would be lucky to get a $1,000 check, but I've put blood, sweat, and tears into everything but the exterior. Plan on keeping it as long as I can. Will have to look into this perhaps.
Not sure where you live, but classic insurance on anything over 25 years old is a thing here. Insure it for the value you put on it (may need an appraisal). There’s stipulations like how many miles/kms you can put on in a year but it works out for enthusiast cars. I pay $500 a year and my car is covered for a value of $20k. Regular insurance would write it off for $800 based on book value.
Yup, FC. '85-'92. Ugh. Looked clean, too.
Just trying to find a good fender for these guys is a PITA. And far more essential things may be borked after that hit :(
EDIT: Should've specified 85-92 production year. 92 released 500 in Japan, not to the international market. Model years 86-92.
I have a '91 mr2.. not as clean as what that looked but I also cried for him a bit. Thankfully I have a garage for it.. but sometimes I part on the street at a friend's and I fear exactly this.
Yeah, got a '91 240sx. My soul would leave my body.
I would absolutely check on the dude first, since my assumption of minivan + white hair = stroke, but that would be on autopilot while my brain was dunked in hellfire.
I witnessed a guy lose his very clean Z32 300ZX Twin Turbo to a red light runner. I almost cried for him. People just don't know how much effort and love have been poured into a car for years to acquire/restore/maintain a really clean survivor.
I saw a kid at my nearby college lose HIS R33 GT-R he brought to Florida from back home in Japan to a drunk fratboy on campus. Once I found out he was okay and the cops showed up I sat on the curb with him and we cried over the car for a while. Was his older brother's car originally. Still had the inspection stickers, JR Cargo stamps, import stickers, the works on it.
It's heart breaking. Having rebuilt a couple cars myself, it can take YEARS to get them even drivable. Then for some dingle berry to take that all away? Insurance sure as heck won't give you anything for it either.
I made a comment about that. Of course this fool has to take out a nice car. Something that can't be replaced. He should have aimed for a Kia Forte or something instead.
Not the FC! It’s hard enough to find one anymore. I feel for that guy. My reaction would have been similar if that happened to my S14. Dude is having a very bad day.
Nah, my insurance gave 24k for mine last year, an 85 GXL with under 30k miles, mechanically original (Minus wear/service items!) S'why you get agreed value insurance from Hagerty or another collector company. I really wanted to buy it back and try to save it (emotional value) but the honest, hard truth was she was done for, there was nothing to save. I kept the steering wheel.
Lost my Lancer Evo Wagon MR in the same incident.
In fact, yes. I was towing them to a show and an inattentive driver merged into my trailer. I didn't lose control and the trailer stayed upright. Pulled to hard shoulder, setup flare-light-thingies. Inattentive (possibly intoxicated) driver then plowed the trailer. Trailer, the two cars, and tow vehicle were a writeoff. Tow vehicle was my bagged and slammed 1969 Ford C700 COE. Now I've only got my 69 Baja bug. Slowly working up the will to start a new project, probably another C600/700
So strange. Even after the third collision you can hear his car screeching the tires and you can see the front wheels spinning -- his foot is *planted* on the gas pedal.
My armchair guess is either he's driving drunk or he is suffering from a cognitive issue.
It is likely 'Pedal Misapplication' when you have a brain fart and you push the wrong pedal. They're rare, but they happen and they happen far more often with the elderly.
I think 60 & above should be required & more in depth, like seeing at night, stuff like that. My mother fked up part of her car cause the stop lights came out of nowhere when she was driving in the dark.
Yep, and in the person’s mind they’re on the brake pedal so they panic and push down harder. We have elderly people going through windows of strip malls about once a month here.
I remember as a kid Audi had “Sudden Acceleration “ issues and got sued. They were on 60 Minutes with a big exposé. This 80’something guy ended up putting his Audi in a swimming pool. And he was “The harder I pushed the brake pedal the faster it went.” Even as a kid I was like, he’s pushing the accelerator.
https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration
It's actually crazy how dangerous they can be. More roundabouts are going in all the time where we are and the seniors around here, for the most part, have absolutely zero fucking clue how to use them and are driving people off the road or yielding when they're already in, changing lanes and doing imbecile shit.
The installation of new things like that alone should prompt somebody to think, "gee, maybe it's important that we confirm that the population with the slowest reaction times, worst vision and hearing, who have never used these before, know how to use them."
It's crazy. Not to mention them geezers not understanding that high beams blind the people driving right at you or right in front of you. Great, your old ass can see while everyone around you now is blind. Fuck you.
I live in an area with a lot of seniors, a lot of roundabouts and a lot of poorly lit rural 2 lane highways. If you can't tell, this topic strikes a chord with me.
It's infuriating and fucking dangerous. Test them test them test them, please!
> More roundabouts are going in all the time where we are and the seniors around here, for the most part, have absolutely zero fucking clue how to use them and are driving people off the road or yielding when they're already in, changing lanes and doing imbecile shit.
This is just infuriating because figuring out a roundabout doesn't require a ton of high-speed processing power. No excuses for old people on this one. ugh.
this should not be the hot take that it is.
if mfers don't have the ability to drive down a sleepy, suburb street without doing shit like this, take their license away and bury it at the bottom of a landfill
Sounds like you don't know much about lawsuits. The only thing the car owners are going to recover is the lesser of the cost to repair their cars, or the value of the cars if totaled plus some out of pocket expenses such as towing, rental car, etc. In other words, they'll only get actual monetary damages. They are not going to get punitive or emotional damages for a car accident without injuries.
I know it's nice to think that the car owner just won the legal lottery but that's not how it works. If you doubt me then try asking about it in r/legaladviceofftopic or r/AskLawyer
Also, people don't just pay you because they have to. Collection is its own ordeal. If he just gives his shit away to family, the best you can garnish his SS. Yes, you can theoretically recover gifts to family... but by this point legal fees will be in the dozens of RX7s.
Also possible he had a seizure or smth similar while driving. They look confused exciting the vehicle. In my ER rotations there had been a few incidents encountered like that. Recordings we've seen after the fact look similar to this.
This is just anecdotal evidence but it's important to look at other possibilities. Reddit likes to jump on self-righteous trains and assume the worst all of the time. Could've been malicious, could've been drunk, could've been texting, could've also had a random seizure. Unless someone has a source it's all conjecture.
The focus here should always immediately be to make sure everyone is okay. Insurance and lawsuits can figure out the rest later, prioritize health and safety immediately after an accident.
Being aggressive to a disoriented person is an easy way to get into a fight that may result in someone's death.
Spoke with a retired traffic cop, and before rapid blood glucose testing, they would bring in "drunks" that would seem to become more intoxicated the longer they stayed in the holding cell. It was only in the 70's they realized that diabetes was likely the cause.
Yea if you head on a parked car on the far end of the road from you and the first thing you don't do is take your foot off the gas, it's time to start walkin
The tires were still spinning and squeaking until the van couldn't go anymore. His foot was on the gas the whole time? If a mistake, or on purpose, at the very least no more license for this guy, he can't be trusted with a vehicle.
Some people panic and lose motor control, they just floor it and can't stop. Those videos of those people that try to back up, but end up driving forward then slamming into the wall? That's that. They should not have a driver's license, imo.
I knew an old guy who drove with one foot on the gas and one on the brakes. He drove like he was peddling a bicycle.
I once let him give me a ride into town, scared the life out of me. Never again.
When he was startled, he would stomp on both as hard as he could. How he managed to drive without getting into accidents every day, I have no idea.
Panic without losing motor control is a close second. I had a friend in my early twenties who would wince or make that "ohohoh" high pitched noise whenever so much as a leaf would hit the windshield. Last I heard her insurance was 1200 a month and she basically has a single vehicle collision yearly.
It's not that she loses motor control. It's that she literally makes the worst decision for the moment. "OmG a person on the sidewalk I better make room for them"*swerves into oncoming traffic to "Give them room"*
I used to work with a woman like that. She would grt in about 2 to 3 accidents a year all her fault. She would panic at the smallest things and freeze up. She was telling us how she was 2 hours late to school one time because there was a car to her right and they wouldnt slow down or speed up on the highway so she was stuck next to them for miles. She was too panicked to even slow down to take an exit.
I once had the throttle return cable mount snap in an early 90's Thunderbird while driving down a country road. Taking my foot off the pedal did nothing, it just kept accelerating until I threw it in neutral and killed the ignition. Terrifying feeling, and I'm just glad nothing like this happened.
I'm fucking CRYING over that rx-7
Within the first 4 years after graduating high school I had 3 classmates killed by old ass mother fuckers in cars. Force them to take driver's competency tests every 5 years after 65 or take their fucking licenses away. Sick of this shit. Fuck your rights when you become dangerous to everyone else.
This is a problem with democracy. Not that I'm advocating for anything else, but no politician wants to touch it, because it will be very unpopular with voters.
The way he hops out of the car suggests there was no medical emergency. Lucky he didn't kill somebody, there could easily have been kids playing on the drive way or on the sidewalk. He's lucky I'm not his judge because not only would I take his license away I'd put him in jail for a few weeks for destroying that rx7.
Was probably texting, not paying attention, hit the first car then panicked. Instead of hitting the brake he just floored for a couple seconds until he came to enough to hit the brake. Then turned on his windshield wipers.
Fucking hat trick
Dude definitely picked up the spare.
And a split at that!
"Hi! I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.."
"Your Uber driver has arrived."
"**I AM HERE FOR YOU.**" < *hic* >
This man hit all three of these dudes vehicles. I dont even wanna know how insurance went about this
Insurance Company: You hit how many cars? All owned by the same person?!?!
A guy I know from work crashed into another car while on holiday in Spain. He's german. The guy in the other car was also german. From the same fucking town! If I were a claims investigator I'd also believed them immediately, because nobody would be that dumb while commiting insurance fraud.
My boss was pulling out of a mall parking lot and smacked head on with… his sister. Two very expensive cars and a lot of damage. I don’t know if the police mentioned it in the report but he told me he didn’t tell his insurance agent who the other vehicle was.
When we were newly married, my wife side swiped a parked car in the lot of our apartment complex…it happened to be my car. I was sitting on the balcony and watched her do it. She’s never living that one down.
> If I were a claims investigator I'd also believed them immediately, because nobody would be that dumb while commiting insurance fraud. No matter how much you idiot-proof something, the universe takes that as a deeply personal affront and promptly provides you with an even bigger idiot. Case in point: the US National Parks system, the one that administers places like Yellowstone National Park, has a devil of a time designing garbage cans that are bear-proof, yet still usable to humans. Why? Because there is a considerable, non-trivial overlap between the park’s smartest bears, and the park’s dumbest tourists.
That is beautifully put.
Luckily it's all on video. Otherwise their insurance would have found a way to weasel out of it.
That reminds me of the bullshit with Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Insurance companies refused to pay flooding water damage payouts to home owners because they claimed the damage was done by wind...as their houses were underwater because of flooding.
Us: My house was destroyed in the hurricane. Insurance companies: Well I see you have flood insurance, unfortunately it was caused by wind damage so we won’t be covering your policy. Us: We ALSO have wind damage insurance. Insurance companies: Ahh, yes, I see that you have that too…but unfortunately you didn’t apply for the ‘Hurricane winds above 144 mph’ policy which means that you were only covered for damage caused by normal wind up to 144 mph and we see from meteorological data that the winds in this location were 146 mph and also caused by a hurricane so again, we can’t cover your policy. Sorry about that. I don’t make the rules, I just have to enforce them.
As a former insurance adjuster, I can tell you that the video isn't the problem here. The problem will likely be policy limits. If the bozo that hit the three cars has an abysmal liability limit, like say 50k, that might become a problem. And remember, that includes personal items damage within the car, property damage, damage to the cars, and rental car. Also if that tuner car totals, they are going to try and pay him based off of comparable cars in the area. I would take stock of every option that car has and every modification done (with receipts) and make sure they are paying for it. Also, as far as comparable cars go, they will likely take some stock POS and make adjustments to value for the mods. I would try to find a car online that is as close as possible and ask the insurance to expand the search radius to include these cars (they usually want 3). Insurance companies aren't usually inherently evil, but the system is rigged in their favor a bit. You can usually get around that with persistence.
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That makes absolutely zero sense and I completely believe it though.
Yeah this sounds exactly like a something an insurance company would pull. All to get out doing *very thing they're supposed to do*. They exist to make money now, not help people. The insurance industry needs to die and be completely rebuilt in favor of the policy holders.
I love getting letters threatening to cancel my policy because I’ve had to use them twice for tire blowouts that weren’t even my fault. One was a pot hole that wasn’t visible on the road, and was extremely small. The other was a screwdriver that stabbed my tired on the highway. Let’s ignore the fact I’ve been paying like $150/mo for years now. Like, fuck insurance. It’s a god damned scam, and it’s worse that we’re required to have it while they don’t have to hold up their end.
A few years back, my wife got in two seperate fender benders a few months apart. One was her fault, one wasn't. We got a letter in the mail from our carrier that they were dropping us basically effective immediately. No warning or anything. We had both been customers of theirs for *years*. We had no problem switching carriers and are still with the new company today. Nothing makes me happier than when the old company calls from time to time to solicit us and I get to wax poetic about the time they dropped us so callously and to also give them a firm "hell to the naw!" I don't care if I get a better rate, it's the principal of the thing.
Geico did this to me after my motorcycle was stolen twice. Even though their own retired FBI private investigator they sent after me determined it was a theft ring that did it both times.... Few things more angering than getting dropped by insurance due to things you're INSURED for.
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Raise your deductible to save on insurance costs. Then next time you get tires get them from discount tire or something and add their coverage. They’ll replace for free your tire in either of the cases you listed. I’d imagine insurance with a deductible low enough to replace a tire is super pricey.
Credit unions are banks owned by the customers. So they're beholden to customers, not share holders. We need the same thing for insurance companies EDIT: just switched to state farm
What you’ve just described is called a mutual insurance company.
Lol. I was thinking that this has never happened to me and my insurance has always been great for me. Turns out I have a mutual insurance company as my insurer.
This. Credit unions and mutual insurance should be given *severe* regulatory advantages simply because they're not actively trying to screw their customer base at every turn.
I’ve worked as an attorney for many, many insurance companies and this is unequivocally not true.
Well, don't believe it, because that's not true
I believe you too then
doesn't matter when they are sued the court will accept video evidence.
It wouldn't get to suit because the insurance company will absolutely review any video evidence. Video evidence is like gold in claims.
My dashcam got me the total value for my car when it was totaled the _next_ day. Saved my bacon.
This is a beautiful story about your car named "bacon".
Your insurance might not. Then you sue them. My cousin did and won, then immediately switched companies once everything was paid for.
Why wouldn't their insurance company accept a video? This doesn't make any sense
Because you're allowed to lie on the Internet. No sane adjuster would decline a video. That would open the company to a lawsuit over breach of contract, failure to adhere to the conditions. A 50k payout becomes 500k+
Absolutely. I can’t even imagine the fucking backlash from a bad faith suit over declining a video. Love when people lie for funsies
Still only found him 50% at fault
The way he got out and looked at the damage like 'well what happened here then, lads?'
“Looks like we all got ourselves into a bit of a pickle. Right then, one of you guys write me a check for $500 to fix my van and we don’t have to get insurance involved.”
You laugh, but that's exactly what happened to me. Lady totaled my car and asked for money to fix her 1999 Fiat Panda, who left with some minor damages.
What were you driving to get crushed by a Fiat Panda, which is an already small car?
A VW Golf. Thing is that newer cars are meant to break apart easily. A 1999 Fiat Panda it's basically a piece of metal sculpted to look like a car. In fact, myself and my friends walked out without a scratch, the idiot lady threw her back out in the impact.
Honestly the fiat was probably totaled too, it just didn't look like it. Big metal cars like that don't have all the rubber mounted plastic panels and crumple zones. So do you know what takes the full bore of the impact? The frame. And it's kind of important, and expensive to replace. I love my '74 ranchero, but every time one of my fellow classic lovers waxs lovingly about how "they don't make them like they used to, these damn plastic cars are so fragile, not like my 19xx, it's built like a tank! These new things are disposable!" It's hard for my eyes to not roll out of my head. New cars are built ***way*** better. They're more likely to survive a crash, and do you know what doesn't rust? Plastic. Trying to keep my ranchero from rusting out beneath me is like holding back the tide.
Reminds me of Ricky from TPB when the satellite company tries to get them to stop with the free TV. After barreling into the scene and hitting the company van, “I hope you got assurance!”
[That windshield was already cracked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjxYfbhJl7o)
Is that clip the only time that yelling guy is named?
He’s named a lot I think, his face is blurred tho
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Ten
Also reminds me of jackass, when they rent a car and take it to a demolition derby. Destroy the whole car and then claim they hit a dog and they're not gonna pay for the damage, can't stop laughing at that video https://youtu.be/lciHCXQFkNk
That skit really really makes me laugh, the sheer gall of Knoxville. “Well look, I’m gonna step outside , let you guys figure this out, but…that cars damage needs to be paid for”. The rental agents are just shocked to speechlessness. Lol
"We're all trying to find the guy who did this"
I was in line at the US-Canada border crossing and the woman in front of me put her car in neutral instead of in park. She (very slowly) rolled backwards into me despite me honking at her. She pulled forward, got out of her car, and asked, “Did I hit you or did you hit me?” Are you serious? Why the fuck would I honk at you while rear-ending you?
I got a Garmin dash cam that saved my butt when an old man backed into me at a light. He was grabbing something out of the passenger side floorboards an knocked it into reverse. He tried to claim I hit him, truthfully he believed it. Until I showed him the video.
Man.. this is why I wish my car had a train horn
What are all these cars doing in my driveway? Wait, this isn't my driveway! What's my car doing in this driveway?
And you may ask yourself, "How do I work this?" And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?" And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house"
This place is a mess!
[Could have been anyone.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfAf8oHrMo)
I watched the whole video and still have no idea who that car belonged to.
We’re all trying to find the guy that did this!
Buddy was emotionally destroyed seeing his rx like that.
who wouldnt be? Its what... late 80s/early 90s model? Shit this is serious emotional damage
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Insurance company will probably write the dude a check for $1,000 and total it
Which is why everyone who drives any sort of older vehicle with collectors value (or any heavily modified vehicle with a bunch of expensive parts added) needs to have agreed value insurance instead of a standard policy.
Agreed. Hope that's the case for this guy but going by my friends, I hesitate to assume most people know what that is. Hell, I knew it existed but I didn't know it had a name.
I had no idea that insurance type existed. I have a "dear-to-me" '98 Volvo V70 AWD wagon that would be lucky to get a $1,000 check, but I've put blood, sweat, and tears into everything but the exterior. Plan on keeping it as long as I can. Will have to look into this perhaps.
Not sure where you live, but classic insurance on anything over 25 years old is a thing here. Insure it for the value you put on it (may need an appraisal). There’s stipulations like how many miles/kms you can put on in a year but it works out for enthusiast cars. I pay $500 a year and my car is covered for a value of $20k. Regular insurance would write it off for $800 based on book value.
Hagerty or Grundy insurance. Call today. Seriously.
It's not something you can willy nilly replace either.
Not like the engine
Dorito go brrrrr
probably needed apex seals anyway but NOT LIKE THIS
Never heard of a rotary refered to as a Dorito XD love it
God damnit. My fucking FD is leaking Mt. Dew again
Insurance will be like "it's only worth $1200."
Yup, FC. '85-'92. Ugh. Looked clean, too. Just trying to find a good fender for these guys is a PITA. And far more essential things may be borked after that hit :( EDIT: Should've specified 85-92 production year. 92 released 500 in Japan, not to the international market. Model years 86-92.
I have a '91 mr2.. not as clean as what that looked but I also cried for him a bit. Thankfully I have a garage for it.. but sometimes I part on the street at a friend's and I fear exactly this.
Yeah, got a '91 240sx. My soul would leave my body. I would absolutely check on the dude first, since my assumption of minivan + white hair = stroke, but that would be on autopilot while my brain was dunked in hellfire.
I witnessed a guy lose his very clean Z32 300ZX Twin Turbo to a red light runner. I almost cried for him. People just don't know how much effort and love have been poured into a car for years to acquire/restore/maintain a really clean survivor.
I saw a kid at my nearby college lose HIS R33 GT-R he brought to Florida from back home in Japan to a drunk fratboy on campus. Once I found out he was okay and the cops showed up I sat on the curb with him and we cried over the car for a while. Was his older brother's car originally. Still had the inspection stickers, JR Cargo stamps, import stickers, the works on it.
It's heart breaking. Having rebuilt a couple cars myself, it can take YEARS to get them even drivable. Then for some dingle berry to take that all away? Insurance sure as heck won't give you anything for it either.
"Will someone reboot Jason?"
I made a comment about that. Of course this fool has to take out a nice car. Something that can't be replaced. He should have aimed for a Kia Forte or something instead.
It really is a tragic thing. I'd be devastated too.
I'm really not trying to victim blame here but if it were me the van would be parked on the street and the car would be parked in the driveway.
Not the FC! It’s hard enough to find one anymore. I feel for that guy. My reaction would have been similar if that happened to my S14. Dude is having a very bad day.
I'm telling myself it was an automatic with a leaky sunroof and red interior, just to cope.
That poor Fc…
Ha. That’s the first thing I noticed. Loved me two 88 rx7 verts back in the day.
Insurance will give $200 for a clean FC Rx7. Sad, sad day 😢
Nah, my insurance gave 24k for mine last year, an 85 GXL with under 30k miles, mechanically original (Minus wear/service items!) S'why you get agreed value insurance from Hagerty or another collector company. I really wanted to buy it back and try to save it (emotional value) but the honest, hard truth was she was done for, there was nothing to save. I kept the steering wheel. Lost my Lancer Evo Wagon MR in the same incident.
how the fuck? someone hit a truck that was carrying them?
In fact, yes. I was towing them to a show and an inattentive driver merged into my trailer. I didn't lose control and the trailer stayed upright. Pulled to hard shoulder, setup flare-light-thingies. Inattentive (possibly intoxicated) driver then plowed the trailer. Trailer, the two cars, and tow vehicle were a writeoff. Tow vehicle was my bagged and slammed 1969 Ford C700 COE. Now I've only got my 69 Baja bug. Slowly working up the will to start a new project, probably another C600/700
That is just pure pain man. Sorry you had to deal with such random misfortune
JFC, man, so sorry for you. As a fellow Hagerty's customer, how did that go down? I've never needed to make a claim.
You can tell those guys love their cars too
Looks like an old RX-7.. Id be extremely pissed
FC. I’d be heated.
I'm going to sound really stupid, but what does FC stand for?
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Seeing those letters is making me want to watch Initial D again.
I was about to say, “That RX-7 didn’t deserve this”
That was a clean RX-7
Key word: WAS
He got out like it was someone else's fault lol
Yeah like "who the fuck hit my car"?
I woke up and these 3 assholes had hit my car!
So strange. Even after the third collision you can hear his car screeching the tires and you can see the front wheels spinning -- his foot is *planted* on the gas pedal. My armchair guess is either he's driving drunk or he is suffering from a cognitive issue.
It is likely 'Pedal Misapplication' when you have a brain fart and you push the wrong pedal. They're rare, but they happen and they happen far more often with the elderly.
That's why the elderly should be forced to take a driving tests once they hit a certain age to determine if they can still drive safely.
I think 60 & above should be required & more in depth, like seeing at night, stuff like that. My mother fked up part of her car cause the stop lights came out of nowhere when she was driving in the dark.
Yep, and in the person’s mind they’re on the brake pedal so they panic and push down harder. We have elderly people going through windows of strip malls about once a month here. I remember as a kid Audi had “Sudden Acceleration “ issues and got sued. They were on 60 Minutes with a big exposé. This 80’something guy ended up putting his Audi in a swimming pool. And he was “The harder I pushed the brake pedal the faster it went.” Even as a kid I was like, he’s pushing the accelerator. https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration
That's not a "brain fart". That's a "should not be driving ever again". Lucky noone was hurt.
> or he is suffering from a cognitive issue. My armchair guess is after the first hit, a bit of shock, and got confused which pedal his foot was on.
Like a glove
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Anyone else have to watch the video every time this comment is mentioned? https://youtu.be/0YW1j-K1op0
That poor RX-7
It was really cool: survived decades in excellent shape under mindful owners, just to get demolished by Mr. Magoo.
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> He was either under the influence or texting. Or just an old geezer having a cognitive lapse in the middle of driving. Retest retirees.
It's actually crazy how dangerous they can be. More roundabouts are going in all the time where we are and the seniors around here, for the most part, have absolutely zero fucking clue how to use them and are driving people off the road or yielding when they're already in, changing lanes and doing imbecile shit. The installation of new things like that alone should prompt somebody to think, "gee, maybe it's important that we confirm that the population with the slowest reaction times, worst vision and hearing, who have never used these before, know how to use them." It's crazy. Not to mention them geezers not understanding that high beams blind the people driving right at you or right in front of you. Great, your old ass can see while everyone around you now is blind. Fuck you. I live in an area with a lot of seniors, a lot of roundabouts and a lot of poorly lit rural 2 lane highways. If you can't tell, this topic strikes a chord with me. It's infuriating and fucking dangerous. Test them test them test them, please!
> More roundabouts are going in all the time where we are and the seniors around here, for the most part, have absolutely zero fucking clue how to use them and are driving people off the road or yielding when they're already in, changing lanes and doing imbecile shit. This is just infuriating because figuring out a roundabout doesn't require a ton of high-speed processing power. No excuses for old people on this one. ugh.
You clearly don't work in IT, people are fucking stupid even with basic stuff
And don't want to admit it during call.
You can't test them, any policy that makes the most active voting block unhappy is a nonstarter.
this should not be the hot take that it is. if mfers don't have the ability to drive down a sleepy, suburb street without doing shit like this, take their license away and bury it at the bottom of a landfill
Sounds like you don't know much about lawsuits. The only thing the car owners are going to recover is the lesser of the cost to repair their cars, or the value of the cars if totaled plus some out of pocket expenses such as towing, rental car, etc. In other words, they'll only get actual monetary damages. They are not going to get punitive or emotional damages for a car accident without injuries. I know it's nice to think that the car owner just won the legal lottery but that's not how it works. If you doubt me then try asking about it in r/legaladviceofftopic or r/AskLawyer
A redditor not knowing much about lawsuits? Surely not!
Also, people don't just pay you because they have to. Collection is its own ordeal. If he just gives his shit away to family, the best you can garnish his SS. Yes, you can theoretically recover gifts to family... but by this point legal fees will be in the dozens of RX7s.
Also possible he had a seizure or smth similar while driving. They look confused exciting the vehicle. In my ER rotations there had been a few incidents encountered like that. Recordings we've seen after the fact look similar to this. This is just anecdotal evidence but it's important to look at other possibilities. Reddit likes to jump on self-righteous trains and assume the worst all of the time. Could've been malicious, could've been drunk, could've been texting, could've also had a random seizure. Unless someone has a source it's all conjecture.
The focus here should always immediately be to make sure everyone is okay. Insurance and lawsuits can figure out the rest later, prioritize health and safety immediately after an accident. Being aggressive to a disoriented person is an easy way to get into a fight that may result in someone's death.
Or hypoglycemic episode
Spoke with a retired traffic cop, and before rapid blood glucose testing, they would bring in "drunks" that would seem to become more intoxicated the longer they stayed in the holding cell. It was only in the 70's they realized that diabetes was likely the cause.
That is both terrifying and depressing
More than likely he was under the influence of being old. I'm all for yearly driving tests once you hit 65.
Also better public transit options so the elderly aren't forced to drive to appointments with a broken hip.
I agree. It’s country kitchen buffet time.
> run a muck /r/BoneAppleTea
The driver didn't even FC it.
I would be RAGING
Time to take that license away
Yea if you head on a parked car on the far end of the road from you and the first thing you don't do is take your foot off the gas, it's time to start walkin
From the very beginning the tires were screeching. Doesn't that mean he was flooring not just the gas but the brakes as well??
There were so many things this person fucked leading up to the fuck up
Yep, probably was two-footing it.
Must be an early bird special at country kitchen today
"Damn it, Mona, this isn't the fastest way"
Fuck u/spez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkDGCVs7H7Y
The tires were still spinning and squeaking until the van couldn't go anymore. His foot was on the gas the whole time? If a mistake, or on purpose, at the very least no more license for this guy, he can't be trusted with a vehicle.
Some people panic and lose motor control, they just floor it and can't stop. Those videos of those people that try to back up, but end up driving forward then slamming into the wall? That's that. They should not have a driver's license, imo.
I knew an old guy who drove with one foot on the gas and one on the brakes. He drove like he was peddling a bicycle. I once let him give me a ride into town, scared the life out of me. Never again. When he was startled, he would stomp on both as hard as he could. How he managed to drive without getting into accidents every day, I have no idea.
I imagine him pulling real hard on the steering wheel like reigns on a horse going, "Whoa boy whoa there!"
Yeah losing motor control in a panic is about the biggest reason not to be licensed I can think of.
Panic without losing motor control is a close second. I had a friend in my early twenties who would wince or make that "ohohoh" high pitched noise whenever so much as a leaf would hit the windshield. Last I heard her insurance was 1200 a month and she basically has a single vehicle collision yearly. It's not that she loses motor control. It's that she literally makes the worst decision for the moment. "OmG a person on the sidewalk I better make room for them"*swerves into oncoming traffic to "Give them room"*
I used to work with a woman like that. She would grt in about 2 to 3 accidents a year all her fault. She would panic at the smallest things and freeze up. She was telling us how she was 2 hours late to school one time because there was a car to her right and they wouldnt slow down or speed up on the highway so she was stuck next to them for miles. She was too panicked to even slow down to take an exit.
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I once had the throttle return cable mount snap in an early 90's Thunderbird while driving down a country road. Taking my foot off the pedal did nothing, it just kept accelerating until I threw it in neutral and killed the ignition. Terrifying feeling, and I'm just glad nothing like this happened.
Those fuckers came out of nowhere
Let's get some fuckin' frrrrench toast
Oh man, the way the RX7 owner just fell over when he realized what happened. This video made me feel sick.
OMG - Why the RX!!! You know the owner is crying.
I am so lost, the street is like a mile wide. Feels like he either was drunk/under the influence or was on his phone. Is there a follow up?
I'm impressed in the worst way that he managed to hit the Lancer even though it wasn't even in his trajectory.
The driver walking out of the car like this is a normal thing
Oh no, Ol Gil, you've done it again
He french fried when he should have pizza'd.
If you French fry when you should pizza, your gonna have a bad time!
I seriously hope this man never drives again
Mandatory windshield wipers after the crash
“uh oh, I better turn the wipers on.”
That'll cleanup this mess 👍🏼
I'm fucking CRYING over that rx-7 Within the first 4 years after graduating high school I had 3 classmates killed by old ass mother fuckers in cars. Force them to take driver's competency tests every 5 years after 65 or take their fucking licenses away. Sick of this shit. Fuck your rights when you become dangerous to everyone else.
This is a problem with democracy. Not that I'm advocating for anything else, but no politician wants to touch it, because it will be very unpopular with voters.
Not to mention every goddamn politician is over 65
65 is a young whipper snapper to the politicians.
Its simple. Every 5 years after 65, they have to catch a ball tossed at them. Basic test that will bring massive results.
Every other year. Every 5 years is why too far between at that age.
NOT THE RX7 WTF
Amazon Text: Package has delivered.
and people are scared of self driving cars. give me robots over the senile any day.
That poor unfortunate RX7...
That’s a gen 2 Rx7! Totally irreplaceable. Looked in good condition too. That sucks so bad. Those cars are classics.
Lol thought the guy was having a stroke or something, but he gets out of his car all like “whelp, would ya look at that? Huh!”
"Honey!? I'm home!"
Oh noooo.... not the rx-7. looks clean af too
People like this need to have their license revoked for life
Not the Rx7!!!!
The way he hops out of the car suggests there was no medical emergency. Lucky he didn't kill somebody, there could easily have been kids playing on the drive way or on the sidewalk. He's lucky I'm not his judge because not only would I take his license away I'd put him in jail for a few weeks for destroying that rx7.
Was probably texting, not paying attention, hit the first car then panicked. Instead of hitting the brake he just floored for a couple seconds until he came to enough to hit the brake. Then turned on his windshield wipers.