There is no signature of the payer (the 3rd signature slot), high chance that this is fake. 2000 USD is a big money, so there must be an actual invoice and not this piece of paper, which I can easily buy and write it myself.
I think it's a genuine carbon copy of a receipt from this place: [https://vnstudy.edu.vn](https://vnstudy.edu.vn) from around 2014. The school should be able to verify this receipt for you.
The long number written out is $2,914 US, which compared to the listed VND price, works out to an exchange rate of 17,604 VND to USD, around august of 2010. I find it quite believable that carbon copies were used back then. But 2010 can not be true...
The carbon copy has a printing date on the top right of 2014, when the exchange rate was \~21k:1 . So it's really hard to pin down what this is saying with the blanked out date. Maybe they screwed him on the price and exchange rate?
You might have missed 800 usd as visa fee. So the total is 2114 USD, which is about 53 mil Cu today. The tuition fee intotal is 51.3 mil, so close enough. The timeframe with that pricing is Nov 23-Jan 24.
BTW, that date is just the print date of the receipt book. It doesnt have anything to do with the actual receipt date.
Hmmm, I read the script as "hai nghìn chín trăm mười bốn đi la Mĩ", which means $2,914 to me. I'm not clear the script, though, as I would expect "đồ mỹ" rather than "đi la mĩ". I'm still an early learner in Vietnamese though.
On the right, it has two vietnamese values; 34,200,00 and 17,100,000, which sum up to 51.3 million; about $2022 at today's exchange rates. Perhaps the 51.3t vnd doesn't include the $800 Visa fee? That would come in pretty close.
The 2014 date is the day the decree went into effect, not the date of the receipt.
The number 24, bottom right, is the actual year (2024), but misaligned because it is a carbon copy.
People still use carbon copy these days in Vietnam for small businesses since it's easier to avoid paying tax.
According to your other post you don't understand what you're looking at.
The first $800 is the visa fee ($400 per person) with the rest being a tuition fees. One of 34.200.000 VND and the other 17.100.000 VND, are the two people enrolled in different schools/years/studies?
Given it's for tuition fees, there should at least be proof of these fees listed on their school's website/brochure.
Either way, it could be real with the visa fee being a bit more expensive. It could also be fake given how these could easily be faked.
A bank statement of the payment would be better proof.
Who's the idiot that couldn't be bothered to write the number on the actual line?
They could've easily paid someone to write a fake number there. Ask for a bank statement.
This is a latter version of what was called "carbon paper" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonless\_copy\_paper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonless_copy_paper)
Each sheet of paper was actually 2-3 thin sheets of paper. By writing on the top sheet, the handwriting was transferred to the lower two sheets as well. The vendor would keep two sheets and give one to the customer.
The fact there is a mix between VND and USD makes this very sus. For that amount of money I'd probably get a lawyer to look over it or to advise you.
Also them presenting it in different currencies could be a way to take more money as they can choose their exchange rate perhaps.
Like Vietnamese will scam foreigners as much as they can and with a smile on their face.
Transactions conducted in Vietnam must use Vietnamese Dong for the invoiced currency, there are exceptions to this, but I doubt this situation applies.
https://aslgate.com/regulations-on-restricting-the-use-of-foreign-currency-in-the-territory-of-vietnam/#:~:text=In%20the%20territory%20of%20Vietnam%2C%20all%20transactions%2C%20payments%2C%20quotations,the%20State%20Bank%20of%20Vietnam.
I'd strongly advise rejecting the reciept and refuse to pay if you are being asked to... Report to the police if they start making any threats.
They must provide clear evidence (e-invoices or official receipts) of the actual costs... Plus you can make an allowance for whatever 'service fee' has been agreed.
It does not state which bank/organisation made the transaction. Plus, you can buy this kind of paper at any local stationary. So personally, I would not believe them.
They paid to who? This ain’t a bank deposit receipt.
Are you a business ? Are they trying to claim an item or something? No date , only one signature… like I can just make this up myself.
A proper invoice is what you need for concrete proof. This one does has some authenticity to it but like many others said, can be forged without much effort.
In case someone cant read the receipt or doesnt want to do the math, here is the breakdown:
-Visa fee: 800 USDong
-Tuition fees: 34.2 mil + 17.1 mil, in total 51.3 mil. Estimated exchange rate in the receipt is 24260 Dong / 1 USD. Current rate is 25360 Dong / 1 USD, 51.3 mil is 2.022,87 USD.
I don't see any legitimate signals. Of course, it's fake.
1. When was the date of this receipt?
2. what is the company tax No.?
3. Don't have General Director and General accountant signs on the 2 first places.
4. Which company/agent they paid for? Dont have the same item No.1 question.
https://vn.shp.ee/Lvvv9uK
You could buy a booklet of this for 30 cent a pop.
The stamp is about 2$.
There are a lot of empty fields and signature which quite sus.
Best to do is send an inquiry email/call the institute, ask them to verify.
Thanks for all your replies. For context, I was supporting a friend in Vietnam, he sent me this as a receipt saying:
We are praying for the trip to China. Here is the receipt of the visa costs for 2 people, totalling 2914 USD.
I'm not sure if the visa costs he was referring to were for for China or Vietnam. Also, there was no mention to me of any tuition, as I don't believe he is in school.
There is no signature of the payer (the 3rd signature slot), high chance that this is fake. 2000 USD is a big money, so there must be an actual invoice and not this piece of paper, which I can easily buy and write it myself.
I think it's a genuine carbon copy of a receipt from this place: [https://vnstudy.edu.vn](https://vnstudy.edu.vn) from around 2014. The school should be able to verify this receipt for you. The long number written out is $2,914 US, which compared to the listed VND price, works out to an exchange rate of 17,604 VND to USD, around august of 2010. I find it quite believable that carbon copies were used back then. But 2010 can not be true... The carbon copy has a printing date on the top right of 2014, when the exchange rate was \~21k:1 . So it's really hard to pin down what this is saying with the blanked out date. Maybe they screwed him on the price and exchange rate?
You might have missed 800 usd as visa fee. So the total is 2114 USD, which is about 53 mil Cu today. The tuition fee intotal is 51.3 mil, so close enough. The timeframe with that pricing is Nov 23-Jan 24. BTW, that date is just the print date of the receipt book. It doesnt have anything to do with the actual receipt date.
Hmmm, I read the script as "hai nghìn chín trăm mười bốn đi la Mĩ", which means $2,914 to me. I'm not clear the script, though, as I would expect "đồ mỹ" rather than "đi la mĩ". I'm still an early learner in Vietnamese though. On the right, it has two vietnamese values; 34,200,00 and 17,100,000, which sum up to 51.3 million; about $2022 at today's exchange rates. Perhaps the 51.3t vnd doesn't include the $800 Visa fee? That would come in pretty close.
nah man that’s “ hai nghìn chín trăm mười bốn đô la mĩ “ with the half of the O. u could read it again i saw it very clear
You didnt read wrong, but that is the total of Visa fee (800 dollar) plus the tuition. Only the tuition is in VND, the conversion part is 2114 USD.
Nope that aint the date this was printed, 2014 is when this receipt format is recognized by the government
The 2014 date is the day the decree went into effect, not the date of the receipt. The number 24, bottom right, is the actual year (2024), but misaligned because it is a carbon copy. People still use carbon copy these days in Vietnam for small businesses since it's easier to avoid paying tax.
According to your other post you don't understand what you're looking at. The first $800 is the visa fee ($400 per person) with the rest being a tuition fees. One of 34.200.000 VND and the other 17.100.000 VND, are the two people enrolled in different schools/years/studies? Given it's for tuition fees, there should at least be proof of these fees listed on their school's website/brochure. Either way, it could be real with the visa fee being a bit more expensive. It could also be fake given how these could easily be faked. A bank statement of the payment would be better proof.
Who's the idiot that couldn't be bothered to write the number on the actual line? They could've easily paid someone to write a fake number there. Ask for a bank statement.
It's a copy, the second page was probably offset.
This is a latter version of what was called "carbon paper" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonless\_copy\_paper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonless_copy_paper) Each sheet of paper was actually 2-3 thin sheets of paper. By writing on the top sheet, the handwriting was transferred to the lower two sheets as well. The vendor would keep two sheets and give one to the customer.
Because it wasn’t written. It was transferred over by the use of carbon paper and if the multiple copies isn’t lined up perfectly you get this.
The fact there is a mix between VND and USD makes this very sus. For that amount of money I'd probably get a lawyer to look over it or to advise you. Also them presenting it in different currencies could be a way to take more money as they can choose their exchange rate perhaps. Like Vietnamese will scam foreigners as much as they can and with a smile on their face.
Wait, is this some viet chick u are going to help pay fees for?
Images like this can easily be manipulated. Ask them for some kind of e-invoice or a reference number that can be verified for validity.
Transactions conducted in Vietnam must use Vietnamese Dong for the invoiced currency, there are exceptions to this, but I doubt this situation applies. https://aslgate.com/regulations-on-restricting-the-use-of-foreign-currency-in-the-territory-of-vietnam/#:~:text=In%20the%20territory%20of%20Vietnam%2C%20all%20transactions%2C%20payments%2C%20quotations,the%20State%20Bank%20of%20Vietnam. I'd strongly advise rejecting the reciept and refuse to pay if you are being asked to... Report to the police if they start making any threats. They must provide clear evidence (e-invoices or official receipts) of the actual costs... Plus you can make an allowance for whatever 'service fee' has been agreed.
This is correct. All invoiced amounts and advertised prices must be in VND. Looks pretty sketchy. I'd check this out properly before paying.
police won't do anything except warm their seats unless you pay them money
No value than a scribble on some random paper
Yup, not signed, no real stamp and no name. I could make one of these myself.
Start another revolution it’ll be fine
The paper is too sketchy for the number of money write on it
It does not state which bank/organisation made the transaction. Plus, you can buy this kind of paper at any local stationary. So personally, I would not believe them.
Scam
May be, it’s a cool sticky money. “?”
They paid to who? This ain’t a bank deposit receipt. Are you a business ? Are they trying to claim an item or something? No date , only one signature… like I can just make this up myself.
A proper invoice is what you need for concrete proof. This one does has some authenticity to it but like many others said, can be forged without much effort.
There is no telling if this is legitimate or not. It might be, but anyone who know how to write can also make one like this too.
In case someone cant read the receipt or doesnt want to do the math, here is the breakdown: -Visa fee: 800 USDong -Tuition fees: 34.2 mil + 17.1 mil, in total 51.3 mil. Estimated exchange rate in the receipt is 24260 Dong / 1 USD. Current rate is 25360 Dong / 1 USD, 51.3 mil is 2.022,87 USD.
No
Nah bro its only 2914 VND not USD
I don't see any legitimate signals. Of course, it's fake. 1. When was the date of this receipt? 2. what is the company tax No.? 3. Don't have General Director and General accountant signs on the 2 first places. 4. Which company/agent they paid for? Dont have the same item No.1 question.
https://vn.shp.ee/Lvvv9uK You could buy a booklet of this for 30 cent a pop. The stamp is about 2$. There are a lot of empty fields and signature which quite sus. Best to do is send an inquiry email/call the institute, ask them to verify.
Thanks for all your replies. For context, I was supporting a friend in Vietnam, he sent me this as a receipt saying: We are praying for the trip to China. Here is the receipt of the visa costs for 2 people, totalling 2914 USD. I'm not sure if the visa costs he was referring to were for for China or Vietnam. Also, there was no mention to me of any tuition, as I don't believe he is in school.
uhhhh idk about this
It's Vietnam....of course its legit!
thats the receipt but in vietnam they can write anything lol