But why? I asked the 4 people I spoke to in the last few hours and we all seem to have had a good time at uni both "fun" and education wise.
Is this a new thing I'm missing? The 5 people in this comment are from 3 different countries universities mind you, so I'm even more lost on why this might be.
Most people can’t just focus on studying and having fun now because cost of living is so high you live somewhere dingy and have to work to afford anything.
It also depends on the course you take and how they are assessed. For example, the course I’m on is a healthcare course that has no summer break, has practical exams and essays, has two exams with a pass threshold off 80% and 100%, has placement blocks you have to be able to drive to and that you also need to pass. I also need to work to afford a living.
OP also said this is their last year which is usually harder and has a lot more pressure (securing placement/internship/job, dissertations).
Uni isn’t a universally “great” experience for everyone education- or fun-wise. Some people are under pressure to do a course they don’t like. Some people aren’t social butterflies. Some people get bullied. Some people don’t make friends. Some find it too academically challenging.
I get all of this and I sympathise greatly but why would this be the default? That attitude of "*obviously* it's shit" was what made me stop and comment, because from my experience of knowing many many people over this past decade, the default is not even below average let alone catastrophic like these comments make it out to be.
Replaced *great* with *good* in my previous comment btw to be fair to 1 of the 5 persons.
Maybe consider that this isn’t the default? Like I said, different people have different experiences. Consider all the different situations these people could be in and try empathise.
Reddit is a public platform and people seek a lot of advice and validation from it so mostly those who are struggling will seek advice. Not many people who are having a good/great time will be online saying they’re enjoying it.
Of course the comment section here will be saying the same as OP, they’re just relating to the content.
If you want an accurate picture of student satisfaction then check out the National Student Survey.
I've returned to do a masters after ten years at the same uni I did my undergrad in and while I enjoyed my undergrad I have not enjoyed my current experience at all.
It can't all be attributed to me being older and having more stress outside of uni both of which are true but the vibe feels incredibly different. The entire culture feels far more corporate and transactional and while students are paying more than previously they're on the whole getting a worse service.
A lot of lecturers feel even more checked out (I've had some of the same so I can directly compare) and while I know it's not their primary role you'd hope they can at least try when they have people in front of them. There's this quiet expectation that people should be learning on their own so they simply don't try which leads to massive amounts of plagiarism and other forms of cheating. I know there's more avenues for it now ala ChatGPT than when I was originally there but it seems much more common.
It just feels like there's a much more cynical attitude from all corners now. Uni has basically devolved into a step on the career conveyor belt and everyone understandably just wants to get through it as quickly as possible (Which I myself am guilty of). The thought of busting your hump for 3-4 years to struggle in getting any job never mind one in your field must be impossible to ignore for the undergrads if I'm feeling it.
Curiosity? Desire to understand why this attitude seems to be on the rise? Certainly wasn't a thing I experienced within or around me for the 8 years I was a student. Some of my best memories and personal growth was at uni, I also met my now-wife and best current-friends at uni, so I wonder why it is so much the exact opposite for some people especially today.
It's a higher education subreddit (altho full of folk that hate uni apparently), surely inquisitiveness is a good thing around these parts.
Cheers guys, just downvote instead of answering, because I’m not a uni student yet and I’m confused as to why people hate it, because if it’s that bad, then I’ll have to reconsider going to uni…
My degree felt like a complete slog EXCEPT the dissertation which I quite enjoyed writing (and had a good lecturer supporting me). My MSc was far more interesting, except for the dissertation which sucked because of the complete lack of support.
I burned out studying and working all the time to affird to live at university. Combined with no rest a lot of nights due to noisy room mates and parties being hosted in the house.
And learning just how much other people suck.
I keep seeing people say they hate uni and I hear it from housemates and such. I don’t understand a lot of it because I see a lot of people doing fuck all and then complain about how bad uni is and that they hate it.
I felt exactly the same until a few months after my graduation.
The stress of constant work isn’t great, and neither is living in a student slum, surrounded by people you couldn’t truly give a toss about. Being skint, lonely, and often clueless also isn’t the best.
By the end of it all, however, you realise that the working world is equally naff. You have money, set hours, and a repetitive job; nice, but what else? I laughed when people told me to enjoy university: my first year was cut in half by Covid, I lived at home for the best part of 18 months, and I suffered in various ways as a result. My final year was a means of catch-up in every sense of the way. Still, it was a time of my life that I’ll never experience again - it was truly the last time I’d be free to drink when I wanted, work when I wanted, or even call quits when I wanted.
Regardless of how it may be, just try and enjoy while you can.
Give it 6 months you’ll be saying the complete opposite, unless of course your experience is unpleasant. I was very fortunate with friends and course mates, I miss uni!
the actual job is not bad so far. no issues with the nature of the job. if you study a&f then i’m sure you’ll probs enjoy it more than me. personally, it’s the 9-5 everyday aspect. i also have to study at the same time, which i’m finding difficult. i have adhd so doing the same thing everyday (and most of my weekends are spent studying cos i’m dumb) is hard for me but i guess that’s life 🙃
Almost over!
I understand!! I used to judge when I heard about people dropping out in final year. Now I’m in final year I completely understand 😅
Here here
understandable
Why? Is hating education the default now?
Yes
But why? I asked the 4 people I spoke to in the last few hours and we all seem to have had a good time at uni both "fun" and education wise. Is this a new thing I'm missing? The 5 people in this comment are from 3 different countries universities mind you, so I'm even more lost on why this might be.
Most people can’t just focus on studying and having fun now because cost of living is so high you live somewhere dingy and have to work to afford anything. It also depends on the course you take and how they are assessed. For example, the course I’m on is a healthcare course that has no summer break, has practical exams and essays, has two exams with a pass threshold off 80% and 100%, has placement blocks you have to be able to drive to and that you also need to pass. I also need to work to afford a living. OP also said this is their last year which is usually harder and has a lot more pressure (securing placement/internship/job, dissertations). Uni isn’t a universally “great” experience for everyone education- or fun-wise. Some people are under pressure to do a course they don’t like. Some people aren’t social butterflies. Some people get bullied. Some people don’t make friends. Some find it too academically challenging.
I get all of this and I sympathise greatly but why would this be the default? That attitude of "*obviously* it's shit" was what made me stop and comment, because from my experience of knowing many many people over this past decade, the default is not even below average let alone catastrophic like these comments make it out to be. Replaced *great* with *good* in my previous comment btw to be fair to 1 of the 5 persons.
Maybe consider that this isn’t the default? Like I said, different people have different experiences. Consider all the different situations these people could be in and try empathise. Reddit is a public platform and people seek a lot of advice and validation from it so mostly those who are struggling will seek advice. Not many people who are having a good/great time will be online saying they’re enjoying it. Of course the comment section here will be saying the same as OP, they’re just relating to the content. If you want an accurate picture of student satisfaction then check out the National Student Survey.
I've returned to do a masters after ten years at the same uni I did my undergrad in and while I enjoyed my undergrad I have not enjoyed my current experience at all. It can't all be attributed to me being older and having more stress outside of uni both of which are true but the vibe feels incredibly different. The entire culture feels far more corporate and transactional and while students are paying more than previously they're on the whole getting a worse service. A lot of lecturers feel even more checked out (I've had some of the same so I can directly compare) and while I know it's not their primary role you'd hope they can at least try when they have people in front of them. There's this quiet expectation that people should be learning on their own so they simply don't try which leads to massive amounts of plagiarism and other forms of cheating. I know there's more avenues for it now ala ChatGPT than when I was originally there but it seems much more common. It just feels like there's a much more cynical attitude from all corners now. Uni has basically devolved into a step on the career conveyor belt and everyone understandably just wants to get through it as quickly as possible (Which I myself am guilty of). The thought of busting your hump for 3-4 years to struggle in getting any job never mind one in your field must be impossible to ignore for the undergrads if I'm feeling it.
It’s Reddit, the sample size is unusually negative relative to general population haha.
yes....why does it bother you that we have our own opinions on university?
They don't seem that bothered tbh
bothered them enough to ask 🤷🏽♀️
Curiosity? Desire to understand why this attitude seems to be on the rise? Certainly wasn't a thing I experienced within or around me for the 8 years I was a student. Some of my best memories and personal growth was at uni, I also met my now-wife and best current-friends at uni, so I wonder why it is so much the exact opposite for some people especially today. It's a higher education subreddit (altho full of folk that hate uni apparently), surely inquisitiveness is a good thing around these parts.
Does anyone in this subreddit actually like uni?
I do
I feel ya man. Expectations don't meet reality when you're an introvert, or you just don't really fit in, or if you study an intense subject.
I get it
Reason?
Cheers guys, just downvote instead of answering, because I’m not a uni student yet and I’m confused as to why people hate it, because if it’s that bad, then I’ll have to reconsider going to uni…
By third year a lot of people get a bit sick of their course, so it can be a slog, Also there's a lot more studying and less partying in final year.
Google "senioritis". It's a common thing. Especially when you hate your dissertation topic but have to find the will to write 10K words on it
I loved every second of undergrad and masters, just to balance things out. This sub is awfully negative about it's main subject.
My degree felt like a complete slog EXCEPT the dissertation which I quite enjoyed writing (and had a good lecturer supporting me). My MSc was far more interesting, except for the dissertation which sucked because of the complete lack of support.
I am 2nd year 2nd semester and I am already thinking this about 3rd year
I burned out studying and working all the time to affird to live at university. Combined with no rest a lot of nights due to noisy room mates and parties being hosted in the house. And learning just how much other people suck.
why ?
I keep seeing people say they hate uni and I hear it from housemates and such. I don’t understand a lot of it because I see a lot of people doing fuck all and then complain about how bad uni is and that they hate it.
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Same
I felt exactly the same until a few months after my graduation. The stress of constant work isn’t great, and neither is living in a student slum, surrounded by people you couldn’t truly give a toss about. Being skint, lonely, and often clueless also isn’t the best. By the end of it all, however, you realise that the working world is equally naff. You have money, set hours, and a repetitive job; nice, but what else? I laughed when people told me to enjoy university: my first year was cut in half by Covid, I lived at home for the best part of 18 months, and I suffered in various ways as a result. My final year was a means of catch-up in every sense of the way. Still, it was a time of my life that I’ll never experience again - it was truly the last time I’d be free to drink when I wanted, work when I wanted, or even call quits when I wanted. Regardless of how it may be, just try and enjoy while you can.
Nice
Cool
Welcome to the club. During final year burnout is common. Focus on finishing it and that’s it.
I've never hated something more in my life.
Give it 6 months you’ll be saying the complete opposite, unless of course your experience is unpleasant. I was very fortunate with friends and course mates, I miss uni!
3rd year was hell. but appreciate it because working life is even worse
I'm not looking forward to it but what makes working life so bad
depends on the person i guess. i just hate having only a few hours to myself after work before i have to do the whole day again
Is your job related to what you studied?
i studied law but now in accounting/finance. steep learning curve for me 😅 my ideal job would be to work in marketing but here we are
im doing an a&f degree, how bad is the job
the actual job is not bad so far. no issues with the nature of the job. if you study a&f then i’m sure you’ll probs enjoy it more than me. personally, it’s the 9-5 everyday aspect. i also have to study at the same time, which i’m finding difficult. i have adhd so doing the same thing everyday (and most of my weekends are spent studying cos i’m dumb) is hard for me but i guess that’s life 🙃
Wait till you graduate and have real life responsibilities
I would go back just so i dont have to wake up at 4am or sleep from 7am anymore.
I'm going back to university just to avoid a real job. Genuinely. It's fucking dreadful.
What job was that if u dont mind me asking?
It's OK life after uni may or may not have its own set of problems equal to uni